Obama’s Bain Capital attacks may be working with battleground state voters

[thoughtone]

Hiding?


Obama will only be a one term president. President Obama got elected because the economy.

This is politics. Obama cannot effectively run on his record

If you say so.

Can Romney "effectively run on his record "?

source: Yahoo News


President Barack Obama's re-election campaign has come under fire for its attacks on Mitt Romney's time at Bain Capital—with several Democrats, including Bill Clinton and Newark, N.J., Mayor Cory Booker, suggesting Obama's focus on private equity companies could backfire.

But if a new poll of voters in key swing states is any judge, the Obama campaign is unlikely to drop its Bain strategy anytime soon.

A new Purple Strategies poll found that a plurality of voters in 12 key battleground states—Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin—are skeptical of Romney's argument that private equity companies create jobs. Among those polled, 47 percent say "private equity hurts workers," compared to 38 percent who say it "helps" the economy.

In Ohio, the numbers were starkest: 49 percent of those surveyed said private equity companies put profits over workers, compared to 33 percent who said private equity "helps" the economy. Eighteen percent said they were "not sure."

In Florida, the gap wasn't as big, but it still favored Obama: 47 percent of those polled said private equity hurts workers, compared to 40 percent who said it helps the economy.

Meanwhile, voters in two other key swing states—Colorado and Virginia—were evenly split on their views of private equity. In Colorado, 44 percent said it hurts workers, compared to 43 percent who said it helps the economy. In Virginia, 44 percent said it helps the economy, compared to 42 percent who said it hurts workers.

(Results for other key states were not disclosed. The poll has a plus or minus 2.2 percent margin of error.)

The poll isn't a great sign for Romney, who has cited his work at Bain Capital as proof that he's helped to create jobs around the country.

In their analysis of the findings, the pollsters note that Obama's Bain strategy is a "classic wedge issue," consolidating Democrats and winning over a plurality of independent voters, 48 percent of whom say private equity hurts, compared to 38 percent who say it helps.

"While the overall results on this argument appear to bode well for the president, the electoral map dynamics may argue for a more subtle state-by-state strategy," the pollsters write.

 

[QueEx]

This is politics.

Obama cannot effectively run on his record

No, "This is [not] politics." This is just the repetition of a talking point that was designed and took shape the day-after this President took office thats been embedded in the attack strategy ever since, including the Infamous Strategy of "NO", and inherent in the "Anybody But Him Strategy" - - to distort reality -- for the sole purpose of getting this guy out of the White House and anybody <s>white</s> else? in.

• The reality is: when this President took over, the economy had already DE-RAILED.

• The reality is: when this President took over, job losses in this country were at epic proportions and job-loss momentum had not yet begun to peak.

• The reality is: the near, if not actual, depression the President inherited was without modern comparison or precedent.

• The reality is: Over the last 27 months, 4.3 million jobs have been created under this President.

• The reality is: 4.3 million is not where we need to be - after having suffered the kind of unprecedented job losses we saw before this President took over and those that followed before this President was able to arrest job-loss momentum.

• The reality is: this President is running on those facts, and admits that job creation in the aftermath of a near cataclysmic economic melt-down is not yet where it needs to be.

• The reality is: you, and many of whom you have political adoration, including, but not limited to, Rush Limpbaugh, have made clear THIS President was never to succeed, and have been on a 3 1/2 year mission to ruin economic confidence for no other purpose but to see your eventual guy win (a feat, I might add, ought to be punishable as Treason, no matter which political party/operatives engage in it - because it is ruinous to the country as a whole and to the scores of "little people" who suffer the consequences).

The reality is: You just repeat talking points. Now, go call on Lamar to help you out. He's only you friend, ya know, to the extent he believes your union of ideas support Ron Paul and Lamar's anti-FedRes ideations.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Good strategy.

In a battle between campaigns, Obama has the hands down better team. We shouldn't forget that they both ran in 2007-08 with Obama overcoming a stout Democratic class and Romney losing in a weak one and only winning this time because Republicans believe in giving guys "their turn" (so expect Santorum to be their next pick).
The strategy has always seemed to pick Romeny apart piece by piece. First they attack his work at Bain and now they're going after his term as governor of Mass.

 

[Cruise]

I don't know why anyone would want to be President of a country that is headed over a cliff.

For all the reasons I despise Obama, the last thing I want to see is this country headed for disaster, and the white boy putting someone else's face on that failure.

Let Mitt Romney be in charge when this all comes tumbling down.

It would be such an appropriate end to the failed experiment that is the United States of America.

 

[Damn Right]

The reality is: You just repeat talking points. Now, go call on Lamar to help you out. He's only you friend, ya know, to the extent he believes your union of ideas support Ron Paul and Lamar's anti-FedRes ideations.

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[actinanass]

No, "This is [not] politics." This is just the repetition of a talking point that was designed and took shape the day-after this President took office thats been embedded in the attack strategy ever since, including the Infamous Strategy of "NO", and inherent in the "Anybody But Him Strategy" - - to distort reality -- for the sole purpose of getting this guy out of the White House and anybody <s>white</s> else? in.

• The reality is: when this President took over, the economy had already DE-RAILED.

• The reality is: when this President took over, job losses in this country were at epic proportions and job-loss momentum had not yet begun to peak.

• The reality is: the near, if not actual, depression the President inherited was without modern comparison or precedent.

• The reality is: Over the last 27 months, 4.3 million jobs have been created under this President.

• The reality is: 4.3 million is not where we need to be - after having suffered the kind of unprecedented job losses we saw before this President took over and those that followed before this President was able to arrest job-loss momentum.

• The reality is: this President is running on those facts, and admits that job creation in the aftermath of a near cataclysmic economic melt-down is not yet where it needs to be.

• The reality is: you, and many of whom you have political adoration, including, but not limited to, Rush Limpbaugh, have made clear THIS President was never to succeed, and have been on a 3 1/2 year mission to ruin economic confidence for no other purpose but to see your eventual guy win (a feat, I might add, ought to be punishable as Treason, no matter which political party/operatives engage in it - because it is ruinous to the country as a whole and to the scores of "little people" who suffer the consequences).

The reality is: You just repeat talking points. Now, go call on Lamar to help you out. He's only you friend, ya know, to the extent he believes your union of ideas support Ron Paul and Lamar's anti-FedRes ideations.

Que with all the excuses you give President Obama, you tend to forget that he was voted in because people BELIEVED he was capable of fixing the economy. Three years later, we are basically still in the same boat. Not to mention, he did *as I stated way back when this happened, even before Romney made this his talking point* focus so much energy on Health Care instead of doing what needed to be done to fix the economy.

Quit fucking blaming the situation for the President's shortcomings. EVERY President inherits a bad situation. I WILL FUCKING REPEAT THIS, EVERY PRESIDENT INHERITS A BAD SITUATION. I don't give a damn how bad it is. Just to be consistent, I will be saying the same thing if Romney pulls this shit Obama keep doing.

It's funny how you accuse me for using talking points, but you use the Obama Campaign talking points. Saying that it's reality.

Who's reality should be the question.

 

[thoughtone]

Three years later, we are basically still in the same boat.

We are? How so?

 

[QueEx]

Que with all the excuses you give President Obama, you tend to forget that he was voted in because people BELIEVED he was capable of fixing the economy.

Excuses. I stated facts. Which of the statements above do you contend are not true ? ? ? And don't stutter.

Three years later, we are basically still in the same boat.

Typical

When you're out of talking points; LOL - - you just make up shit

You know damn well we're not losing hundreds of thousands of jobs every fucking month, as was the case when the President took office. On the contrary, we're adding jobs -- but its tough when the whole fucking world is reeling from G.W.'s follies, No. 1 of which -> the ill advised invasion of Iraq which has damn near broke us

Not to mention, he did *as I stated way back when this happened, even before Romney made this his talking point* focus so much energy on Health Care instead of doing what needed to be done to fix the economy.

The sad part is, you actually believe what you're saying. You've been listening to your boi Limpbaugh's bullshit for so long, you sound just like him ! ! !

You sure you're not Limpbaugh ? ? ?

It's funny how you accuse me for using talking points, but you use the Obama Campaign talking points. Saying that it's reality.

They're my words, but importantly, you haven't refuted one of them. Must all be reality.

 

[QueEx]

P.S.

The President is running on his record -- job creation, foreign policy successes, etc.

You and your boi Limpbaugh don't like it; you all had intended that all your bad mouthing
and the Party NO would have left him totally handicapped -- as you attempted to ruin
the President and rest of the gotdamn country in the fucking process.

No. We're not creating jobs at the clip we'd like. But, the country is in fact adding jobs,
not losing them out the fucking yang-yang as Bush left us. FACT.

 

[Lamarr]

P.S.

The President is running on his record -- job creation, foreign policy successes, etc

Running from his record!

NDAA, 8.2%, 16 trillion in debt etc.

NAFTA & the Patriot Act are still intact. Bernanke is still there, same monetary policy as Bush. The list goes on

"Obama Girl" won't endorse Obama

 

[actinanass]

We are? How so?

Is the unemployment number below 6 percent? It hasn't been that since middle of 2008. It's 2012.

Excuses. I stated facts. Which of the statements above do you contend are not true ? ? ? And don't stutter.




Typical

When you're out of talking points; LOL - - you just make up shit

You know damn well we're not losing hundreds of thousands of jobs every fucking month, as was the case when the President took office. On the contrary, we're adding jobs -- but its tough when the whole fucking world is reeling from G.W.'s follies, No. 1 of which -> the ill advised invasion of Iraq which has damn near broke us




The sad part is, you actually believe what you're saying. You've been listening to your boi Limpbaugh's bullshit for so long, you sound just like him ! ! !

You sure you're not Limpbaugh ? ? ?




They're my words, but importantly, you haven't refuted one of them. Must all be reality.

Que, you stated campaign talking points. It's cool, we all have biases.

The sad thing about it, you actually believe the talking points.

Are you sure you're not the Vice President....??

Who said anything about losing a hundred thousand jobs a month? Oh I get it. Since I said "things haven't really changed" you nitpick that little fact. It's cool, the unemployment level still sucks. In fact, it's worst than 3 years ago if you go by those numbers.

 

[QueEx]

Is the unemployment number below 6 percent? It hasn't been that since middle of 2008 [when we began a downward spiral not seen since the Great Depression]. It's 2012.

It is 2012; we're not losing jobs; jobs are being created; You hate it => ALL FACTS.

Your Party of NO, your Anybody but Obama wingers, your He Must Fail treasonists => all bear responsibility for the lack of economic progress AND culpability (look it up) for the suffering among the 'non-rich' whom they have sacrificed, in a desperate attempt to get Obama.

 

[QueEx]

Running from his record!

On the Contrary Sir. His record is what it is; and he has no choice but to put it out there for the American people to decide.

NDAA, 8.2%, 16 trillion in debt etc.

Yep, unemployment is at 8.2. Funny thing, as I read you, you seem to cringe and offer detractions everytime it seems there is improvement in those numbers and your have an uncanny joy everytime there is an announcement that things are not as good as we all would like them to be. Thats a strange kind of hate, Lamar.

Surprised you'd bring up that weak-ass 16 trillion thingy again -- when you already proved you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about once: First Audit of the Federal Reserve Reveals $16 Trillion in Secret Bailouts


The major difference between YOU and ACTINANASS, is the people he idolizes have without question sought to ruin shit for entire country, save their buddies, to ensure Obama is a one-termer -- and -- the one you idolize, Ron Paul, seems not to have openly engaged in that kind of hatred, yet his record on Blacks is still dubious.

Of course, LOL, actin probably misses this obvious subtlety.


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[actinanass]

It is 2012; we're not losing jobs; jobs are being created; You hate it => ALL FACTS.

Your Party of NO, your Anybody but Obama wingers, your He Must Fail treasonists => all bear responsibility for the lack of economic progress AND culpability (look it up) for the suffering among the 'non-rich' whom they have sacrificed, in a desperate attempt to get Obama.

First off, I don't hate jobs being created.

Secondly, the unemployment numbers are still high. You keep missing that damn point.

I said specifically how the President can right this ship before the election. Get the unemployment rate under six percent *a real six percent, not just because people aren't getting an unemployment check*, and do something about Syria/Iran. In order for the President to be able to do that was have policies that would help create jobs around 750k-1 mil range monthly. Obama not supporting the Keystone pipeline might have been the final nail in the coffin for those aspects.

Face it Que, people will not believe the shit you are saying *basically repeating MSNBC*. People aren't feeling the good news because, to most, it's not reality.

If that wasn't the case, the President would have launched a positive campaign on day one. Scott Walker would have lost by a landslide because Obama *with his political capital because everyone would believe we are in good shape* would of pushed Barrett into a landslide victory. Of course, in your eyes, pretty much everything I say is wrong, and I'm just an ideologue that doesn't know what I'm talking about. Not to mention, you have the better political understanding because HNIC made you into a Mod.

It's cool, keep believing that.

 

[Lamarr]

Yep, unemployment is at 8.2. Funny thing, as I read you, you seem to cringe and offer detractions everytime it seems there is improvement in those numbers and your have an uncanny joy everytime there is an announcement that things are not as good as we all would like them to be.

thats because things aren't as rosy as it is portrayed. They simply deduct people off the rolls to make the rate go down, as I've illustrated with charts and other factual info.

Surprised you'd bring up that weak-ass 16 trillion thingy again -- when you already proved you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about

research "unfunded liabilities / obligations" before you spout-off this nonsense.

 

[thoughtone]

Is the unemployment number below 6 percent? It hasn't been that since middle of 2008. It's 2012.

You had better continue your anti-American hope for the economy to fail. The trends are improving.


source: Reflections of a Rational Republican

Is the unemployment number below 6 percent? It hasn't been that since middle of 2008. It's 2012.







Que, you stated campaign talking points. It's cool, we all have biases.



The sad thing about it, you actually believe the talking points.

Hypocrisy is epidemic in republicans!

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Que with all the excuses you give President Obama, you tend to forget that he was voted in because people BELIEVED he was capable of fixing the economy. Three years later, we are basically still in the same boat. Not to mention, he did *as I stated way back when this happened, even before Romney made this his talking point* focus so much energy on Health Care instead of doing what needed to be done to fix the economy.
.

This is not true but it's the longest running lie going (outside birther crap).

The first thing Obama did was the Ledbetter Act, the second was the Stimulus.

Running from his record!

NDAA, 8.2%, 16 trillion in debt etc.

NAFTA & the Patriot Act are still intact. Bernanke is still there, same monetary policy as Bush. The list goes on

The only one of those that matters in electoral politics is the unemployment rate. You might wish it to be otherwise, and the others are very important and things more under the President's control, but that's not how it is.

Is the unemployment number below 6 percent? It hasn't been that since middle of 2008. It's 2012.



Que, you stated campaign talking points. It's cool, we all have biases.

The sad thing about it, you actually believe the talking points.

Are you sure you're not the Vice President....??

Who said anything about losing a hundred thousand jobs a month? Oh I get it. Since I said "things haven't really changed" you nitpick that little fact. It's cool, the unemployment level still sucks. In fact, it's worst than 3 years ago if you go by those numbers.

Actually he pretty directly asked which fact wasn't true.

Still waiting.

First off, I don't hate jobs being created.

Secondly, the unemployment numbers are still high. You keep missing that damn point.

I said specifically how the President can right this ship before the election. Get the unemployment rate under six percent *a real six percent, not just because people aren't getting an unemployment check*, and do something about Syria/Iran. In order for the President to be able to do that was have policies that would help create jobs around 750k-1 mil range monthly. Obama not supporting the Keystone pipeline might have been the final nail in the coffin for those aspects.

How does he do that without Congressional aid? They've turned back every single jobs act he proposed after almost two years of challenging him to put one forth.
What do you propose he do about Syria and Iran, two different nations you threw together for some odd reason.

Face it Que, people will not believe the shit you are saying *basically repeating MSNBC*. People aren't feeling the good news because, to most, it's not reality.

If that wasn't the case, the President would have launched a positive campaign on day one. Scott Walker would have lost by a landslide because Obama *with his political capital because everyone would believe we are in good shape* would of pushed Barrett into a landslide victory. Of course, in your eyes, pretty much everything I say is wrong, and I'm just an ideologue that doesn't know what I'm talking about. Not to mention, you have the better political understanding because HNIC made you into a Mod.

It's cool, keep believing that.

Hate to say it, but you prove that with every post.

 

[QueEx]

. . . you have the better political understanding because HNIC made you into a Mod.

Damn bruh.

Not only have you been completely unresponsive to all of the
pointed comment above, you've reduced yourself to kinder-logic.


When you use kinder-logic, you get admitted to:

When you get admitted to kindergarten, you have to take the short . . .

When you take the short bus, you think you've earned something . . .

And, when you learn you not getting paid, you learn that's because you're
not using building blocks . . .

Building Blocks are like FACTS​

To make good sense.

Don't Use Kinder-Logic

Get Rid of Kinder-Logic

Upgrade to

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