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The OFFICIAL 2011-12 Chicago Bulls Season Thread

Will the Chicago Bulls return to the ECF?

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Welcome to the group was their from the start of the season!!!
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You the least credible mutha fucka in here...take your 2 teams in the same division lovin, 0-2 record in the playoffs havin ass on back to M.I.A status like you've been all season.
 
Stern doesn't believe the condensed schedule is the cause of all these injuries


http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/stor...dule-not-related-injuries-derrick-rose-others

NBA commissioner David Stern said Monday that he doesn't believe Derrick Rose's ACL tear, or the other major injuries plaguing the league this season, had anything to do with a schedule condensed by a lockout.

"I don't think it's related at all. Zero," Stern said on "The Herd With Colin Cowherd" on ESPN Radio.

The New York Knicks' Iman Shumpert also tore his ACL on Saturday, adding to a list of major injuries that included season-ending back surgery for the Orlando Magic's Dwight Howard.

Some players have speculated that a season that was reduced from 82 games to 66 with one day off between the regular season and playoffs played a role.

"When anything happens, that's going to happen," Stern said of people trying to find a cause-and-effect relationship. "But I was just reading something from a doctor who said that he just doesn't believe it. There's no evidence that the wear and tear ... and on Derrick it's kind of interesting, it was horrible to watch, but he was out. He missed 27 games earlier this year, so he only played in 40 of those games that we had in this quote condensed schedule. So what's your suggestion?"

Some have suggested it was the truncated training camp and fewer days to rest that contributed to injuries. Rose missed just five games in his first three seasons. He then suffered turf toe, back spasms, a pulled groin and a foot injury before tearing his ACL this season.

"When you think about it, that's the only thing that changed," Rose said about the schedule recently. "The way I work out is usually the same, even though I ran more than I usually did in the past. But I really don't know what to blame it on. Where they're just like freak accident, freak injuries, where it's just happening."

Knicks guard Baron Davis, who is battling a back injury in the playoffs, thinks the schedule is definitely hurting players.

"This has been a compressed season, a lot more games, a lot less practice time, a lot less recovery time," he said. "You can definitely look at the season and just look at the schedule and say that guys really never got the ample amount of time to rest and heal their bones because you're fighting for playoff position. It's game after game after game. So, you know, it's tough. But there's injuries, there's freak injuries in basketball that's always happening."

Despite the league saying that the injury rate is about the same as most seasons this year, Lakers coach Mike Brown agrees with Davis.

"I believe (the schedule has hurt), but it's nothing medical or anything like that," he said, according to Hoopsworld.com. "I have nowhere near the knowledge where I probably even shouldn't be making the statement. But yeah, I think so. A shortened season, a lot of games in a short amount of time, your body changes and stuff like that, you never know. I've just seen a lot of injuries this whole year, and I think it probably has to do with playing a lot of games in a short amount of time."

Dr. David Altchek disagrees. Altchek is from the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York and is a consultant for the NBA and has operated on players such as Josh Howard, David West and Purdue's Robbie Hummel.

"There is no evidence that wear and tear, or that kind of issue, playing too much, really has any correlation with ACL injuries in any sport that we've ever studied," Altchek said Sunday. "In fact, I think if you're tired (from a condensed schedule), you're a lot less likely to tear your ACL because you're not going to be as explosive."

Still, players such as Rip Hamilton predicted before the season that the NBA was going to be in store for an increase in injuries because of the schedule.

Stern said it's something the NBA will consider after the season.

"I think it's still worthy of our study at season's end to see how that just works out," Stern said. "We want to find out if we can learn something from this. But basically in most years we average about five ACLs, and prior to this year's playoffs we had three, from a schedule where we played two more games a month."

Information from the Associated Press and ESPNChicago.com's Michael Wilbon was used in this report.
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Looking at last season's schedule, the Bulls had no more than 3 games a week. This season it was mostly weeks of 4 games, sometimes 5 (like the first week). That's fuckin' bullshit.

From Dec 25 to Apr 26, that's about 20 weeks for 66 games.

Last season, starting from Dec 25 to Apr 26 2011, there were 55 regular season games and 5 playoff games.

The season should've been 50-60 games to even it out.
 
Okay, I am done crying in the car:(. Cried all damn weekend long:smh:. Game 2 tonight. One wheel fell off but the vehicle is still rolling.

PS Fuck all you haters who cheer injuries on other teams you dislike. You type of chumps are bitchmade for real. I feel bad for Shumpert also.

GO BULLS!!
 
Crushing defeat for the Bulls. Philly must be smelling blood. Defense was wack, Jru went apeshit, and Evan and Lou played well also. Bulls wasted a good effort by Noah. Deng and Boozer were non factors. Bulls must split in Philly now. This is the playoffs and no one will feel sorry for you.

Bulls!
 
I can't lie I know it's the nature of sports but I feel so cheated by Rose's injury I felt this was our year.
 
Bulls Lose badly!


BullS: 92
76erS: 109

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Bulls were actually play good basketball during the first half, but then the shit fell apart during the second half.

When Philli went on their run earlier in the season. One of the reasons they went on that run was because they found ways turn their game around during the second half.

Also...John Lucas needs to learn how to pass the ball around. He dribbles too much.

Where was Deng and Boozer?

I still believe that we'll win the series. Philli aint a "scoring" team. Those easy baskets that you all saw yesterday wont be there during the next game.

As crazy as it may sound to some of you, even without Rose I can still see the Bulls going to the ECF. But only if they play good defense and pass the ball on offense.


Next Game:

Friday @ Philli


I think we'll win this next game. But the series could go to 6 games.



BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Rose will be getting surgery sometime this month and is expected to be good by as early as October.
 
This is my final LONGGGG rant/post about this season. Its over!


We actually played good today....and during the previous game as well...but we just didnt have what was needed to close out those games; Or maybe we did. But due to our team not doing what they did all season i.e. play unselfish/smart basketball....we ended up losing 3 games in a row. Thats why I hope our season is over this Tuesday. We just dont have enough healthy players to make a run at anything.

In all honesty I really havent been in a basketball or playoff basketball mood ever since Rose got injured. Not as depressed as I was on that day...but still really not interested because of it. Im still a die hard Bulls fan and supporter. I plan to be at Tuesdays game when/if we get eliminated.....but still ...Im really not interested. Im just going to show my support. Unlike the Bulls "wine and cheese" bandwagon crowd...ill be there to the end.

After all our bs....injuries......more injuries...more injuries.....coach getting desperate and putting players with one leg back on the court....a ball hogging PG that is only looking for his on shot.....the rest of our so called good players only stepping up when they feel like it...bad scouting....etc etc...I really just want this season to end. Not just because we cant win a title..but also for the sake of making the next round entertaining to watch.

So far this first round has been wack imho. Lot of one sided games. IMHO It'll be Boston vs Miami in the ECF. And the way its looking..... San Antonio wil come out the West. Im leaning toward Boston surprising everyone and coming out the East...but you never know; LBJ is looking good. Regardless I think the Spurs will get the title this year just like they did during our last shortened season. Regardless of who wins or loses...I really dont give a fuck. Thats why I havent been clowning NY for being shit. After Rose went down I really stopped giving a fuck mainly because I knew what was in our future.



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Dont expect much next season unless the Bulls make some trades. But then again dont hold your breath waiting on a trade. We have mediocre players with big ass contracts. Plus most of those players are either getting old, injured or injury prone. Im sure some will make a trade with us despite all of those things that I just typed..but still....Next season is pretty much gonna be painful to watch if youre a Bulls fan.

Rose wil be out until Feb or March more than likely. They might as well keep him out the entire season. I would say that he would be back by Jan, but they say the Bulls Docs want to wait about 3 weeks before they fix his acl. Iman Shumperts injury was worst than Rose's...yet he had his surgery already.....but here we are waiting. Deng wil be out for the first 2-3 months. Then after that he has to get his rhythm back. Even if Rose comes back in January....I think it wil take him at least until the the Summer or Fall of 2013 before he's physically and psychologically on the right track. But he is a young/tough guy..so I hope Im wrong.

I dont want to go out on the limb and say we need to blow the whole team up in order to make another playoff push. because the truth is we dont know what this team couldve done if they were healthy. But I will say that after watching damn near every team in the playoffs..the Bulls need to seriously work on getting Rose some LEGITIMATE help. And I mean the type of help that can stil put up 20-25 ppg when Rose aint there. We need a post presence thats not 6'3" and under 200lbs. Our back court is lacking. We need a 6th man like Harden to come off our bench so Deng doesnt have to play 40+ mins. And the second and third string PG's that we have either refuse to or dont know how to run an offense. So we need legitimate back ups for Rose as well. After next year RIP wil be a FA...so soon or later we'll need another good 2 guard.

Bottom line...we need to get our shit together!


In closing......lol.......like JHood says on ESPN radio over and over again. We waited 5+ years for MJ and crew to get over the humps and bring us a title.....so now we're gonna have to have patience and wait for Rose as well. Im content with that because I know Rose will help bring a title to Chicago sooner than later..


BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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he already shined and played in the UC so im good.

paxson has had his eye on him for a while.


Pooh Harden Shabazz in 2014
:cool:
 
Chitownheadbusa said:
This is my final LONGGGG rant/post about this season. Its over!


We actually played good today....and during the previous game as well...but we just didnt have what was needed to close out those games; Or maybe we did. But due to our team not doing what they did all season i.e. play unselfish/smart basketball....we ended up losing 3 games in a row. Thats why I hope our season is over this Tuesday. We just dont have enough healthy players to make a run at anything.

In all honesty I really havent been in a basketball or playoff basketball mood ever since Rose got injured. Not as depressed as I was on that day...but still really not interested because of it. Im still a die hard Bulls fan and supporter. I plan to be at Tuesdays game when/if we get eliminated.....but still ...Im really not interested. Im just going to show my support. Unlike the Bulls "wine and cheese" bandwagon crowd...ill be there to the end.

After all our bs....injuries......more injuries...more injuries.....coach getting desperate and putting players with one leg back on the court....a ball hogging PG that is only looking for his on shot.....the rest of our so called good players only stepping up when they feel like it...bad scouting....etc etc...I really just want this season to end. Not just because we cant win a title..but also for the sake of making the next round entertaining to watch.

So far this first round has been wack imho. Lot of one sided games. IMHO It'll be Boston vs Miami in the ECF. And the way its looking..... San Antonio wil come out the West. Im leaning toward Boston surprising everyone and coming out the East...but you never know; LBJ is looking good. Regardless I think the Spurs will get the title this year just like they did during our last shortened season. Regardless of who wins or loses...I really dont give a fuck. Thats why I havent been clowning NY for being shit. After Rose went down I really stopped giving a fuck mainly because I knew what was in our future.



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Dont expect much next season unless the Bulls make some trades. But then again dont hold your breath waiting on a trade. We have mediocre players with big ass contracts. Plus most of those players are either getting old, injured or injury prone. Im sure some will make a trade with us despite all of those things that I just typed..but still....Next season is pretty much gonna be painful to watch if youre a Bulls fan.

Rose wil be out until Feb or March more than likely. They might as well keep him out the entire season. I would say that he would be back by Jan, but they say the Bulls Docs want to wait about 3 weeks before they fix his acl. Iman Shumperts injury was worst than Rose's...yet he had his surgery already.....but here we are waiting. Deng wil be out for the first 2-3 months. Then after that he has to get his rhythm back. Even if Rose comes back in January....I think it wil take him at least until the the Summer or Fall of 2013 before he's physically and psychologically on the right track. But he is a young/tough guy..so I hope Im wrong.

I dont want to go out on the limb and say we need to blow the whole team up in order to make another playoff push. because the truth is we dont know what this team couldve done if they were healthy. But I will say that after watching damn near every team in the playoffs..the Bulls need to seriously work on getting Rose some LEGITIMATE help. And I mean the type of help that can stil put up 20-25 ppg when Rose aint there. We need a post presence thats not 6'3" and under 200lbs. Our back court is lacking. We need a 6th man like Harden to come off our bench so Deng doesnt have to play 40+ mins. And the second and third string PG's that we have either refuse to or dont know how to run an offense. So we need legitimate back ups for Rose as well. After next year RIP wil be a FA...so soon or later we'll need another good 2 guard.

Bottom line...we need to get our shit together!


In closing......lol.......like JHood says on ESPN radio over and over again. We waited 5+ years for MJ and crew to get over the humps and bring us a title.....so now we're gonna have to have patience and wait for Rose as well. Im content with that because I know Rose will help bring a title to Chicago sooner than later..


BULLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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don't talk shit about shumpert fam
 
shaddyvillethug said:
don't talk shit about shumpert fam
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IT IS WHAT IT IS said:
Real Rap, Yall need to get Scalabrine some touches...
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Tom Tibby already showed desperation when he put Noah back on the floor after his foot went 90 degrees. I doubt that he'll show it again.

You shouldnt resort to looking at the last players on your bench for a boost in the playoffs. If you gonna go out then you go out with the players that youve been riding with since day one.

Regardless...a lot of people have learned lessons this year.
Paxton, Rose, Tibs, etc.

During the next two off seasons they have to fix the bs. Theyve invested too much thought in D Rose and not enough in the players around him.
 
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Lotta late piling on in this thread. None of this was happening 2 weeks ago.

Knicks fans please exit now. Y'all talk about how Bulls fans live in the 90's.......it's better to a has been than a never have.
 
i thought that no call when Boozer went to the rack and then Philly got the trip to the foul line sealed the deal.

I didnt get to watch all the game...........but was there a reason why Rip was sitting out such a key junction late in the 4th?
 
curryshotta said:
i thought that no call when Boozer went to the rack and then Philly got the trip to the foul line sealed the deal.

I didnt get to watch all the game...........but was there a reason why Rip was sitting out such a key junction late in the 4th?
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Me n my boy said the same shit y was Rip sitting... He shot bad but u got him for these kinda games.. i been telling my friends that dude can coach defense but he cant coach offense.. n fuck his staff cause obviously they dnt go against what he says.. he makes very bad decisions on offense.. kyle kover cant dribble or take someone off the dribble.. at least Rip can... O well...
 
monsterman said:
The Russian better make a move or else Dwight Howard will be a Bull next season.
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I doubt it. They were talking about amnesty for Boozer next year. But the Bulls aint gonna cut that ninja a check for over 40mill. So they wont get rid of him next year...but the following year......maybe.


The Bulls wil have to sign some players next year. Brewer more than likely wont be back. And after next year RIP wil be gone as well. So we'll be back to looking for another 2 guard.

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Anyways.

We live! We live to fight another day!
:lol:

BullS: 77
76erS: 69

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Both defense played great....but both offenses also played like shit; Especially in the first half. I was near the nose bleed section literally falling asleep.

Ill just type about our defense because thats all Im concerned about. After that game two whereas the 76ers had like 1000 fast breaks and were looking like LobCity part 2...Tom Tibby has prepared his team accordingly. And ever since we've been playing great and I Mean GREAT defense. We could have actually ended this series 2 games ago if we couldve found some offense. The fact that we stil manage to play great defense with one of our best defenders out and our other best defender injured is incredible!

Speaking of offense....sometimes when I look at Tom Tibby I wonder if he's a gift and a curse. A la D'Antoni, who was mainly all offense and no defense.....Tom seems to all defense and no offense. I know that this is who Tom Tibby has been sense he's been in the NBA. And I also know that one of the reasons why our players dont put up points when it counts is partly due to them not executing plays, not playing team basketball or just plain out not being able to score points/find their shots. But just like I stated last year.... sometimes I wonder if the reason why some of our players dont play great offensively is because our coaches dont utilize their talents and also because their exhausted by spending so much energy on defense. So much of our offense depended on what Rose was able to do via creating shots....but when he's not there..then what?

Regardless.....this is Tom's second year as a head coach; Which means that he wil improve on the offensive side of his playbook. He deserve the new contract that he wil get in the off season. Despite mismanaging his player here and there...he's still one of the best coaches in the league imo.

Anyways,,,,Boozer has stepped up two games in a row. And despite Dengs wrist obviously bothering him....he stil managed to put up big numbers in a do or die situation. Props to both of them.

My concern going into game 6 is Taj Gibson. He rolled his ankle. Yep..another injury. ARE WE FUCKIN' CURSED? Anyways......if Taj aint there then I dont know about our chances in game 6. But then again...maybe Scalabrine might come in and do what he did for Boston a few years ago in the playoffs.


:dunno:


Next Game:

Thursday @ Philli


If we force a game 7...I plan to be at the home game as well. But this time Imma pay for better seats. Sitting with drunk poor people aint my thang anymore. ...lol



BULLS!!!!!!!!
 
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See how the bears flipped they whole squad after getting rid of the GM?

It's time for paxson to go

But he's reinsdorf boy so he ain't going no where.

Shabazz harden Dwight in 2014
 
So I found this interesting thread from another forum.
Great listen on Derrick Rose on what lead to his ACL tear. Basically the Dr said all of these injuries (especially the turf toe) affected Derricks kinetic chain (the whole knee bone connected to the toe bone).

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/chicago/play?id=7897184&s=chicago

Which leads me again to believe that our medical staff failed Derrick. Derrick has not been able to flex his big toe for 2 years and nothing was ever done to correct it.

Dr Jeff also goes on to say that he believes Rose can come back better then ever but only if the toe issue is addressed. Surprisingly he said he has little faith that the Chicago Bulls medical staff will.
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Wow. This is exactly what I've been saying. The doctor said he's "100% in his belief" that the ACL tear wasn't a knee problem. He says it was all related (kinetic chain) to Rose's other injuries.

The doctor said (and apparently he has been saying on the radio since Rose's toe injury) that Rose wasn't treated properly from day one with his turf toe. And that he was basically rushed back from it. And that even watching Rose play, he could see that things weren't right. And the injuries are no surprise.

Everyone needs to really listen to this podcast. Probably the most important listen or read for a Bulls fan in the past year and for the foreseeable future.

Apart from the whole blame game (which I think is extremely important and isn't being done enough), the Doctor does address how to fix this problem going forward.

Apart from obviously doing surgery and rehab on the ACL (which the doctor thinks is likely to be done right), he says that just as important is basically fixing the root cause of everything: the toe. Whether it's surgery (likely) or what, he says that the toe must be fixed. He said that when the toe injury occurred and he heard Rose talk about how he hadn't bent his toe in years, a huge red flag went up in the doctor's head. Because his toe wasn't working properly, other problems were bound to come up.

But if the toe is fixed (along with the ACL), not only does the doctor think Rose will be back to 100%, but he thinks Rose will be better than ever! Because if Rose was playing with a messed up toe for years, he wasn't really at 100%.

That's an incredible silver lining to this whole nightmare. However, when the interviewer said that she thinks that it's pretty certain the doctors treating Rose will solve the toe issue, the doctor disagreed. He says that if these doctors couldn't figure out the toe problem throughout the season (after repeated injuries), he doesn't have faith that they will ever figure it out.

So the future of this franchise literally hinges on these doctors getting it right. If we hear that Rose will be having surgery on his toe as well as his ACL, I will probably the happiest I've been about the Bulls future since Rose went down.
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:eek::eek::eek: What da fuuuuuuh!
The word needs to get out. "Get that fuckin toe fixed".
Ever since that one game in Boston, I knew Rose didn't look right. Dude looked almost flat-footed.
Next year (or the year after), the Derrick Rose that returns could potentially be the most healthy he's been since high-school.
 

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