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Black folks are hypocritical with all of this outrage

Drayonis said:
Has the "black murderers" who've shot and killed other blacks been interviewed by police and allowed to go home with no arrests?

You dudes are ignoring the real outrage of he story.
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I guess you aren't familiar with the "60 day" rule in new Orleans. This is one of the main reasons that place is as violent as it is because the dudes know that with no witnesses after 60 days they go free. It's also three main reason the criminals fled from Houston and Atlanta back to new Orleans because that shit doesn't apply. May want to do a little research on that...

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It amazes me that you...and a few others on this board don't get it. This killing was going to be swept under the rug as a "justifiable homicide" due to either a fucked up law, or a non-fucked up law being used the wrong way (the politician who wrote the law says it's the later). Zimmerman killed the kid, and went home uncharged, with his fucking gun.

Please explain how you compare this situation to the black on black violence that you speak about. How many times in those cases do the cops have the shooter at the scene, literally with the smoking gun still in hand, admitting that they fired the shot... and they let them go home with the fucking gun?

Gang violence, idiots shooting people over nonsense, brothas that just don't value life (theirs or anyone elses) is really bad, and we talk about that a lot... but when those guys get caught at the scene with the gun, they tend to go to jail and then to prison.


mc2 said:
Sorry if you are offended but this needs to be said...

Its amazed me how hypocritical black people are with all of this action and outrage regarding the Trayvon Martin situation. I am also not downplaying the actions of Zimmerman.. He was actions were completely unacceptable and he should be arrested and charged with murder, and condemned to a death sentence.

My gripe is that unarmed young black men get killed every day at the hands other young black men. In fact my 22 year old cousin is being buried today.... He was unarmed and shot in the head and killed one week ago by other black males who are still free at this time.

Young black males have been killing other young black males for years but it has not caused the same amount of outrage as this situation. I mean you have marches all over the country, folks protesting in-front of government buildings, police stations, sporting events, church gatherings, etc... You look a the news and they are constantly showing videos of young black kids talking about how they are now afraid for their lives to walk down the street and scared to wear hoodies :hmm: The "New Blank Panthers" are trying to raise $1,000,000 for the capture of Zimmerman.... :smh:

The reality is that young black men are more likely to be killed by other young black males than a rouge white neighborhood watch captain. Black on black murders have been happening everyday for years and it hasn’t provoked this type of outrage... Just look at the news paper this morning and there will probably be articles of the young blacks that were killed over the weekend due to senseless violence.. Will there be protests for these killings??? I literally cannot count how many family members I've lost to black on black violence and I'm sure many of you can say the same thing.
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In the New Orleans cases, are the shooters caught at the scene, with the murder weapon in their hands, and do they admit they shot the dead person before they're allowed to go home with the murder weapon?



bham_brotha said:
I guess you aren't familiar with the "60 day" rule in new Orleans. This is one of the main reasons that place is as violent as it is because the dudes know that with no witnesses after 60 days they go free. It's also three main reason the criminals fled from Houston and Atlanta back to new Orleans because that shit doesn't apply. May want to do a little research on that...

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gene cisco said:
I live in northeast Ohio. That is where Cleveland is. :hmm: Google the place. It's Detroit-lite.

I always say SOME. Some people can't comprehend that. Ain't one person living up here in northeast Ohio going to disagree about SOME black folks being out of control up here. We all have black friends and family and folks just want to be safe.

If you were from here and witnessed what happened to the inner-ring suburbs the last 20 years, you would be :eek:. Ever witness shit turn hood for no fucking reason? It's sad shit.
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dog i came up in the 80's 90's...in the heart of the problem. sad to say even been a part of the problem. i aint mean for that to rhyme or anything but yea i have prolly seen/ experienced some of the worst shit black america has been thru...and thankfully some of the best.

but even when i was out there i knew that there are alot of forces at play making things the way they are. some blame lies on the cats that are tearing up the cities w/ drugs and violence and some of the blame lies on the circumstances that are in place for that type of shit to continue to go on.

take brooklyn or dc for example. both cities were warzones for over a decade. anybody in east ny could tell u stories about the 80s 90s and any dc cat could do the same. as soon as it came time for developers to cash in ... gentrification... both cities were cleaned up so easily that it should make anybody ask why couldnt this be done while keeping the neighborhoods black? why were the schools so damn bad for so many years and as soon as u want to attract the $$$, the schools get better, more after school programs get started, the streets are cleaner, more police on patrol...

thats why i dont see it as just "look at these terrible evil niggas out here". i see the big picture but they benefit from us staying focused on how terrible our people are.
 
ajamelh07 said:
Show me where a black man killed another black cause he looked suspicious, followed the victim when told not to, shot the unarmed victim for no reason, was not charged with anything, had the police cover up his fuck up, and Ill agree with the comparison. Ill wait

And my fellow black people for the most part are disgusted by black on black crime. To think otherwise is asinine.
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Drayonis said:
Has the "black murderers" who've shot and killed other blacks been interviewed by police and allowed to go home with no arrests?

You dudes are ignoring the real outrage of he story.
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Simple minded folk trying to compare apples & oranges.

And who decided that black folk don't care about blacks killing blacks?
 
william busa said:
When we kill each other, we know it's wrong and if we get caught, there are going to be consequences for our actions. This is what keeps a lot of blacks from killing other blacks. Yes, there are hi numbers of us killing each other, but there are also hi numbers of us going to prison for doing so.

This case in Florida opens up a whole new outlook of killing blacks. If this dude gets away with this murder, it will be open season on killing us. Trayvon was profiled as a black trouble maker because he was wearing a hoodie. He was unarmed and killed because he was black. So, now if the law says it's ok to be a Zimmerman, a person who shoots and kills a black because he was profiled and believed to be a threat, where will it stop? That's where the anger lies. Killing black kids and getting away with it.

I'm not the most articulate person, but hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to say.
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In a nut shell. Well said, my brother!
 
This topic is some bull shit! If a black person kill another black person.They are still going to jail! This cracker killed a brother and this punk bitch didn't even get in a jail cell!
 
themainman said:
dog u must live round some terrible black folk cuz ur opinion of them seems to be really, really low.
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themainman said:
dog i came up in the 80's 90's...in the heart of the problem. sad to say even been a part of the problem. i aint mean for that to rhyme or anything but yea i have prolly seen/ experienced some of the worst shit black america has been thru...and thankfully some of the best.

but even when i was out there i knew that there are alot of forces at play making things the way they are. some blame lies on the cats that are tearing up the cities w/ drugs and violence and some of the blame lies on the circumstances that are in place for that type of shit to continue to go on.

take brooklyn or dc for example. both cities were warzones for over a decade. anybody in east ny could tell u stories about the 80s 90s and any dc cat could do the same. as soon as it came time for developers to cash in ... gentrification... both cities were cleaned up so easily that it should make anybody ask why couldnt this be done while keeping the neighborhoods black? why were the schools so damn bad for so many years and as soon as u want to attract the $$$, the schools get better, more after school programs get started, the streets are cleaner, more police on patrol...

thats why i dont see it as just "look at these terrible evil niggas out here". i see the big picture but they benefit from us staying focused on how terrible our people are.
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themainman said:
dog i came up in the 80's 90's...in the heart of the problem. sad to say even been a part of the problem. i aint mean for that to rhyme or anything but yea i have prolly seen/ experienced some of the worst shit black america has been thru...and thankfully some of the best.

but even when i was out there i knew that there are alot of forces at play making things the way they are. some blame lies on the cats that are tearing up the cities w/ drugs and violence and some of the blame lies on the circumstances that are in place for that type of shit to continue to go on.

take brooklyn or dc for example. both cities were warzones for over a decade. anybody in east ny could tell u stories about the 80s 90s and any dc cat could do the same. as soon as it came time for developers to cash in ... gentrification... both cities were cleaned up so easily that it should make anybody ask why couldnt this be done while keeping the neighborhoods black? why were the schools so damn bad for so many years and as soon as u want to attract the $$$, the schools get better, more after school programs get started, the streets are cleaner, more police on patrol...

thats why i dont see it as just "look at these terrible evil niggas out here". i see the big picture but they benefit from us staying focused on how terrible our people are.
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Look at your last statement. Here's how I see it. You have normal white people and you have white trash. Never would a normal white person think his normal white friends hated white people because he spoke ill of crazy rednecks acting a fool.

However, with us it seems to be different. We have our own "hillbillies." Just like white trash, they will always exist. We just won't accept that fact. This is a very small percentage of the population that is tearing shit up. Most of us are fucking normal. But sooner or later, we have to admit some people are just fuck ups(see white trash).

Why can't the schools be better? Who wants to teach at a school when kids beat your ass? I've seen schools go from sugar to shit. It's the attitude. Same with the streets. Same streets, but put white trash or black trash on those streets and shit is different.

Gentrification works for whites because they aren't going to allow "white trash" hillbillies into their neighborhoods to tear them up. Us? We fall for it every time. We let our "hillbillies" run guilt trips on us, we "hating" or we're sell outs. Next thing you know a good neighborhood is the hood.

Those starbuck drinking whites see some scruffy white person with a beard on a Harley-Davidson pull up and they are like :eek:...:angry: "fuck is he doing here?" But if black people see someone pull up on 26 inch rims, thugged out and are like :eek:...:angry: "the fuck?" They are self-haters. :confused:

And we wonder why we can't have shit?
 
mc2 said:
Sorry if you are offended but this needs to be said...

Its amazed me how hypocritical black people are with all of this action and outrage regarding the Trayvon Martin situation. I am also not downplaying the actions of Zimmerman.. He was actions were completely unacceptable and he should be arrested and charged with murder, and condemned to a death sentence.

My gripe is that unarmed young black men get killed every day at the hands other young black men. In fact my 22 year old cousin is being buried today.... He was unarmed and shot in the head and killed one week ago by other black males who are still free at this time.

Young black males have been killing other young black males for years but it has not caused the same amount of outrage as this situation. I mean you have marches all over the country, folks protesting in-front of government buildings, police stations, sporting events, church gatherings, etc... You look a the news and they are constantly showing videos of young black kids talking about how they are now afraid for their lives to walk down the street and scared to wear hoodies :hmm: The "New Blank Panthers" are trying to raise $1,000,000 for the capture of Zimmerman.... :smh:

The reality is that young black men are more likely to be killed by other young black males than a rouge white neighborhood watch captain. Black on black murders have been happening everyday for years and it hasn’t provoked this type of outrage... Just look at the news paper this morning and there will probably be articles of the young blacks that were killed over the weekend due to senseless violence.. Will there be protests for these killings??? I literally cannot count how many family members I've lost to black on black violence and I'm sure many of you can say the same thing.
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were they killed by someone who is suppose to be doing something positive and that person considered killing an unarmed black kid with skittles part of his positive duty?
 
When folks like OP comment on this case. It shows that they don t know anything about the real world.

The issue of this is that a boy was killed because he was black and the stereotypes and fear that white people have about black males.

Hell they thought he was some junkie drug addict burglar - simply cause he was black. So it was okay to kill him drug test him then stick him in the morge cause noone will miss a junkie.

Then the good ole boy cover up by the racist police department was foiled when they found out that it was a fuckin minor now the back tracking and the coverup. Wake da fuck up.

But the fact that this could happen to any of us goes well beyond folks like OPs head....

I wish he would just STFU and leave well enough alone....
 
mc2 said:
Sorry if you are offended but this needs to be said...

Its amazed me how hypocritical black people are with all of this action and outrage regarding the Trayvon Martin situation. I am also not downplaying the actions of Zimmerman.. He was actions were completely unacceptable and he should be arrested and charged with murder, and condemned to a death sentence.

My gripe is that unarmed young black men get killed every day at the hands other young black men. In fact my 22 year old cousin is being buried today.... He was unarmed and shot in the head and killed one week ago by other black males who are still free at this time.

Young black males have been killing other young black males for years but it has not caused the same amount of outrage as this situation. I mean you have marches all over the country, folks protesting in-front of government buildings, police stations, sporting events, church gatherings, etc... You look a the news and they are constantly showing videos of young black kids talking about how they are now afraid for their lives to walk down the street and scared to wear hoodies :hmm: The "New Blank Panthers" are trying to raise $1,000,000 for the capture of Zimmerman.... :smh:

The reality is that young black men are more likely to be killed by other young black males than a rouge white neighborhood watch captain. Black on black murders have been happening everyday for years and it hasn’t provoked this type of outrage... Just look at the news paper this morning and there will probably be articles of the young blacks that were killed over the weekend due to senseless violence.. Will there be protests for these killings??? I literally cannot count how many family members I've lost to black on black violence and I'm sure many of you can say the same thing.
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because in the act of doing something positive for the community, killing an unarmed black kid with skittles was part of the duty of doing something positive for the community. can you not see that:confused:
 
when do we kill each other
have witnesses come forward with the name and description of the person that killed someone
and the police refuse to arrest them

when that happens what you said can be true.

these murders committed by us aren't open and shut cases
they don't let us free they don't not press charges on us if they catch us we go away.

so yes a person like me is upset that we kill each other

but i also know that this shit isn't happening when it comes to us
they aren't letting us sit at home knowing we killed someone
stop comparing the shit
its not the same
 
mc2 said:
Sorry if you are offended but this needs to be said...

Its amazed me how hypocritical black people are with all of this action and outrage regarding the Trayvon Martin situation. I am also not downplaying the actions of Zimmerman.. He was actions were completely unacceptable and he should be arrested and charged with murder, and condemned to a death sentence.

My gripe is that unarmed young black men get killed every day at the hands other young black men. In fact my 22 year old cousin is being buried today.... He was unarmed and shot in the head and killed one week ago by other black males who are still free at this time.

Young black males have been killing other young black males for years but it has not caused the same amount of outrage as this situation. I mean you have marches all over the country, folks protesting in-front of government buildings, police stations, sporting events, church gatherings, etc... You look a the news and they are constantly showing videos of young black kids talking about how they are now afraid for their lives to walk down the street and scared to wear hoodies :hmm: The "New Blank Panthers" are trying to raise $1,000,000 for the capture of Zimmerman.... :smh:

The reality is that young black men are more likely to be killed by other young black males than a rouge white neighborhood watch captain. Black on black murders have been happening everyday for years and it hasn’t provoked this type of outrage... Just look at the news paper this morning and there will probably be articles of the young blacks that were killed over the weekend due to senseless violence.. Will there be protests for these killings??? I literally cannot count how many family members I've lost to black on black violence and I'm sure many of you can say the same thing.
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william busa said:
When we kill each other, we know it's wrong and if we get caught, there are going to be consequences for our actions. This is what keeps a lot of blacks from killing other blacks. Yes, there are hi numbers of us killing each other, but there are also hi numbers of us going to prison for doing so.

This case in Florida opens up a whole new outlook of killing blacks. If this dude gets away with this murder, it will be open season on killing us. Trayvon was profiled as a black trouble maker because he was wearing a hoodie. He was unarmed and killed because he was black. So, now if the law says it's ok to be a Zimmerman, a person who shoots and kills a black because he was profiled and believed to be a threat, where will it stop? That's where the anger lies. Killing black kids and getting away with it.

I'm not the most articulate person, but hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to say.
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I agree with you both. There should certainly be more outrage over black on black killing however this isn't as simple as a killing. Like busa said this is about a guy killing and telling the police he did it and not getting arrested. It's one thing to kill someone it's another to do it on some taking the law into your own hands type shit and deciding that someone should die purely because you don't like how they are looking and have the police cosign the shit. If he had gone to trial and been acquitted that's one thing but the police didn't even arrest him for shooting an unarmed kid that he said himself that he was following around. Black on black crime is indeed a huge problem that warrants more outrage however until I see a black man kill another unarmed black man and tell the police he did it and not so much as get arrested for the shit then there is no comparison between the Trayvon situation and black on black crime.
 
gene cisco said:
Look at your last statement. Here's how I see it. You have normal white people and you have white trash. Never would a normal white person think his normal white friends hated white people because he spoke ill of crazy rednecks acting a fool.

However, with us it seems to be different. We have our own "hillbillies." Just like white trash, they will always exist. We just won't accept that fact. This is a very small percentage of the population that is tearing shit up. Most of us are fucking normal. But sooner or later, we have to admit some people are just fuck ups(see white trash).

Why can't the schools be better? Who wants to teach at a school when kids beat your ass? I've seen schools go from sugar to shit. It's the attitude. Same with the streets. Same streets, but put white trash or black trash on those streets and shit is different.

Gentrification works for whites because they aren't going to allow "white trash" hillbillies into their neighborhoods to tear them up. Us? We fall for it every time. We let our "hillbillies" run guilt trips on us, we "hating" or we're sell outs. Next thing you know a good neighborhood is the hood.

Those starbuck drinking whites see some scruffy white person with a beard on a Harley-Davidson pull up and they are like :eek:...:angry: "fuck is he doing here?" But if black people see someone pull up on 26 inch rims, thugged out and are like :eek:...:angry: "the fuck?" They are self-haters. :confused:

And we wonder why we can't have shit?
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mannn...u just dont get it. nothing i can say can help you see the bigger picture and comparing whats going on in some black communities to some hillbillies is so retarded (almost disrespectful) that im just gonna agree to disagree.

and for the record i dont live with the reality or believe that "we can't have shit". that's something that's ingrained in ur head, not mine bruh...
 
william busa said:
When we kill each other, we know it's wrong and if we get caught, there are going to be consequences for our actions. This is what keeps a lot of blacks from killing other blacks. Yes, there are hi numbers of us killing each other, but there are also hi numbers of us going to prison for doing so.

This case in Florida opens up a whole new outlook of killing blacks. If this dude gets away with this murder, it will be open season on killing us. Trayvon was profiled as a black trouble maker because he was wearing a hoodie. He was unarmed and killed because he was black. So, now if the law says it's ok to be a Zimmerman, a person who shoots and kills a black because he was profiled and believed to be a threat, where will it stop? That's where the anger lies. Killing black kids and getting away with it.

I'm not the most articulate person, but hopefully you can understand what I'm trying to say.
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Point you are missing with cats that take this simpleton view is that their argument is that as long as ANY black man ANYPLACE on the PLANET EARTH commits a violent act against ANY other black man, people like Zimmerman get a pass. Never mind that most inner city crime is due to familiarity and convenience and not some effort to seek out other black folks. Never mind that MOST blacks who murder other blacks are arrested and jailed or at least pursued as criminals. Never mind the actual FACTS in this particular case. If the Klan declared all out war on the black race tomorrow and went about seeking out black people to kill on site, these same people would be making this same argument. If Trayvon was 5 years old, these same people would be making this same argument. It's a coward's argument, same as the "Every white man that wants to call me a n*gger has every right to as long as we keep using the word" argument. It is a preemptive move to explain away cowardly acts not yet committed.
 
themainman said:
mannn...u just dont get it. nothing i can say can help you see the bigger picture and comparing whats going on in some black communities to some hillbillies is so retarded (almost disrespectful) that im just gonna agree to disagree.

and for the record i dont live with the reality or believe that "we can't have shit". that's something that's ingrained in ur head, not mine bruh...
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I don't understand why you people argue with people opposing values.
 
OP has good intentions yet no point can be made in the midst of this outrage. The two things that stand out for me are that yes there is so much everyday bs that this energy you notice regarding this case can be applied to going fwd & the point that nothing has changed, you just can't see the foul shit with ur eyes.
 
Wordy methods of distraction. You CACs are not going to stir or deter us from making noise about this case.
Each and every murder is independent and worthy of its own attention. That is not the point. Its just as bad when its black-on-black as it is when its not but this case is unique and there is no "fake outrage" and its not hypocritical. A kid was murdered for being black. That has been a running theme in this country and all of us who are of the same color have an extra duty to make noise about this injustices or as William Busa said, its open season on anyone who wants to do it.
Zimmerman has to either be jailed or killed or both or its open season on us.
 
themainman said:
mannn...u just dont get it. nothing i can say can help you see the bigger picture and comparing whats going on in some black communities to some hillbillies is so retarded (almost disrespectful) that im just gonna agree to disagree.

and for the record i dont live with the reality or believe that "we can't have shit". that's something that's ingrained in ur head, not mine bruh...
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The hillbilly shit just illustrates trash will be a constant. How we deal with that constant is on us. We can make excuses for muthafuckas running around tearing shit up, or we can concentrate on those who are not.

If you are referring to systematic racism or Jim Crow 2, you're shit out of luck. We have a black president and BGOL kneegrows say we shouldn't ask him for shit. Muthafuckas think drop 50-1 sentencing to 18-1 is progress.:smh:
 
code_pirahna said:
When folks like OP comment on this case. It shows that they don t know anything about the real world.

The issue of this is that a boy was killed because he was black and the stereotypes and fear that white people have about black males.

Hell they thought he was some junkie drug addict burglar - simply cause he was black. So it was okay to kill him drug test him then stick him in the morge cause noone will miss a junkie.

Then the good ole boy cover up by the racist police department was foiled when they found out that it was a fuckin minor now the back tracking and the coverup. Wake da fuck up.

But the fact that this could happen to any of us goes well beyond folks like OPs head....

I wish he would just STFU and leave well enough alone....
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Thank you.
 
code_pirahna said:
When folks like OP comment on this case. It shows that they don t know anything about the real world.

The issue of this is that a boy was killed because he was black and the stereotypes and fear that white people have about black males.

Hell they thought he was some junkie drug addict burglar - simply cause he was black. So it was okay to kill him drug test him then stick him in the morge cause noone will miss a junkie.

Then the good ole boy cover up by the racist police department was foiled when they found out that it was a fuckin minor now the back tracking and the coverup. Wake da fuck up.

But the fact that this could happen to any of us goes well beyond folks like OPs head....

I wish he would just STFU and leave well enough alone....
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:yes:
 
If a black person had killed trayvon and we knew who it was,we would all want him arrested and charged the same way.

To assume just because the person is non black thats why we want him charged and convicted is asinine.
 
mc2 said:
Sorry if you are offended but this needs to be said...

Its amazed me how hypocritical black people are with all of this action and outrage regarding the Trayvon Martin situation. I am also not downplaying the actions of Zimmerman.. He was actions were completely unacceptable and he should be arrested and charged with murder, and condemned to a death sentence.

My gripe is that unarmed young black men get killed every day at the hands other young black men. In fact my 22 year old cousin is being buried today.... He was unarmed and shot in the head and killed one week ago by other black males who are still free at this time.
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sorry about your loss. wanted to say that first. real talk.

but my question is does law enforcement know who the men are who killed your cousin? did they talk to them, do a quick q&a then let them go while your cousin was laying dead on the ground at the guy's feet? were they also allowed to take the murder weapon with them?

if you answered 'yes' to those questions then you have a legitimate beef. but if u said 'no' to yourself, then you're not understanding why the vast majority of americans (not just black folks either) are outraged by what happened. the state of florida is in essence saying that it was okay for zimmerman to execute trayvon. law enforcement was complicit in that they tried to cover it up. if not for men like al sharpton who threw a light on the travesty, no body outside that small community would even know what happened.
 
It just trips me out how the media picks and chooses it's major stories for nationwide coverage sometimes.​
 
Fuck you and your dead loved ones fucking coon...Everyone coons that agreed with this piece of shit is going on my ig list...You faggott ass niggas need to remove the tail from between your bitch ass legs..Fucking weak broken ass coons :smh:
 
DuvalNigga said:
Fuck you and your dead loved ones fucking coon...Everyone coons that agreed with this piece of shit is going on my ig list...You faggott ass niggas need to remove the tail from between your bitch ass legs..Fucking weak broken ass coons :smh:
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man if u want attention that badly just go outside and make a friend. but this troll sheit u do to get people to see u is just childish.

even a beatch nickah like u had adults raising him. and i KNOW they brought yo azz up better than this :smh:
 
i-moses said:
Indeed.
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Black folk are slow at taking heed. Deal with the major problem and then try and solve all other problems. All that is happening to black people, "good" or bad, is happening within this evil context. As long as the context of racism/white supremacy is in place there are going to be many more Amadou Diallos, Trayvon Martins, Sean Bells, etc. As long as the context of racism/white supremacy is in place, we as black people should be optimist pessimists in regard to whatever goes on within this context.
 

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