Sanford Police Chief: Not Enough Evidence To Arrest Zimmerman [Jim Crow 2012]
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I swear to God sometimes I hate white people..so it's Trayvons fault he got killed...I really hope us black people can stick together, cuz we are behind enemy lines.
Shit like this makes me laugh because it shows how dumb these rednecks are. Acting like victims and bitches because their rein is nearly over. They will soon be on the endangered species list and they know it.
Trayvon Martin Shooting: Attorneys In Case Make Arguments
MIAMI -- Attorneys for the family of Trayvon Martin and the Florida neighborhood watch captain who fatally shot the unarmed teen joined the national chorus of voices calling Saturday for justice in the case.
As demonstrators took to the streets in major cities such as Washington and Chicago to voice outrage over Martin's death, an attorney for the Martin family told board members of the National Association of Black Journalists that federal and local officials have assured the family that the case is a priority.
Meanwhile, an attorney representing the neighborhood watch captain, 28-year-old George Zimmerman, broadly defended his client and said he believes evidence will show that Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law was properly applied.
Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.
"Is George a racist? The answer is no, absolutely not. He's not a racist," attorney Craig Sonner said about his client. "The incident that transpired is not racially motivated or a hate crime in any way. It was self-defense."
Sonner said he's spoken with several of Zimmerman's friends, including some who are African-American.
"They only have good things to say about him," Sonner said.
They're reluctant to come forward, though, because they fear that the backlash over the investigation will make them and their families targets, too, Sonner said.
Sonner declined to detail what transpired between Zimmerman and the 17-year-old Martin, but he said he believes the case falls under Florida's stand-your-ground law, which dictates that a person has the right to stand his or her ground and "meet force with force" if attacked.
"I believe what the evidence will show is that this case does fall under that," Sonner said. "I believe we have a good case."
If charges are brought against his client, Zimmerman would be willing to turn himself in to police, Sonner said. "We will follow the law," Sonner said.
Sonner would not say where Zimmerman was.
A spokeswoman for the Maitland mortgage risk-management firm where Zimmerman reportedly works, Digital Risk, said she couldn't confirm anything about Zimmerman's employment, but that he had not been at work since the shooting.
"Our utmost concern is for the safety of our employees, specifically based on the potential turmoil that could arise from the recent announcement of a bounty for his capture," Brandie Young said Saturday.
Amid the outcry over the lack of charges against Zimmerman, the Sanford police chief and state's attorney in the case have both stepped aside.
The U.S. Justice Department has opened a civil rights probe into the shooting, and a grand jury is scheduled to meet April 10 to consider evidence in the case.
Daryl D. Parks, the Martin family attorney, said federal officials and local officials met with the teen's family Thursday and gave them "a strong sense that (the Department of) Justice was very committed" to investigating the case.
"For us to have had all the people who were there with us and the magnitude of the conversation . this is a very high priority for this administration," he said in a wide-ranging interview with the black journalists' group in Boston.
Indeed, President Barack Obama weighed in Friday, calling the shooting a tragedy and saying, "When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids."
But Parks added "it was clear from Justice's statements that charges of a hate crime are going to be a challenge."
Parks also said the Florida Department of Law Enforcement has told the family's legal team that they know Zimmerman's whereabouts, but that it was not clear whether they are offering protection to Zimmerman, who has been in hiding and has received death threats in recent weeks.
Martin's parents also met Friday with the newly-appointed special prosecutor in the case, and the family's legal team plans to pursue a civil case against the Twin Lakes homeowner's association, Parks said.
About 400 people rallied Saturday in downtown Chicago to protest Martin's killing. In a racially divided city beset by shootings, gang violence and run-ins with police, the teen's death brought to mind the 1955 slaying of Emmitt Till, a 14-year-old black boy from Chicago who was shot and bludgeoned to death while visiting Mississippi for supposedly whistling at a white woman. His body was found in the Tallahatchie River.
No one was ever convicted, but Till's killing galvanized the civil rights movement.
"It's a precedent that with the right excuse it's OK to gun down black males," protester Ashten Fizer said of Martin's killing. "It's a return of Jim Crow."
In Washington, a large crowd gathered in Freedom Plaza to call for justice in the shooting.
Among the demonstrators Saturday was Jimmy Neal, a District of Columbia resident who said his daughter has been asking him questions he didn't want to answer.
"She's asked me the question ... `Why, daddy, when he was carrying candy and a soda or iced tea and why did the man kill him?' I had to explain that to her. And those are discussions you don't plan to have with your kids," Neal said.
"Hoodie Marches" were organized Saturday in two South Carolina cities over social media. Many of the people participating carried bags of Skittles and wore hooded sweat shirts, like the one Martin wore when he was killed.
Martin was holding a bag of the candy while walking to a friend's home from a convenience store when Zimmerman started following him, telling police dispatchers he looked suspicious. At some point, the two got into a fight in the gated community and Zimmerman pulled out his gun.
Meanwhile, authorities say a Florida man is charged with threatening the police chief who temporarily stepped down from the investigation.
The Seminole County Sheriff's Office says John Carnduff Stewart of Melbourne Beach emailed Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee on Friday, saying Lee and his family should be killed. Melbourne Beach is nearly 70 miles south of Sanford.
The sheriff's office says Stewart has sent threatening emails previously, including to Penn State University assistant football coach Mike McQueary.
Stewart was placed on electronic monitoring as a condition of his $10,000 bond.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ents_n_1377627.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
MIAMI -- Attorneys for the family of Trayvon Martin and the Florida neighborhood watch captain who fatally shot the unarmed teen joined the national chorus of voices calling Saturday for justice in the case.
As demonstrators took to the streets in major cities such as Washington and Chicago to voice outrage over Martin's death, an attorney for the Martin family told board members of the National Association of Black Journalists that federal and local officials have assured the family that the case is a priority.
Meanwhile, an attorney representing the neighborhood watch captain, 28-year-old George Zimmerman, broadly defended his client and said he believes evidence will show that Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law was properly applied.
Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.
"Is George a racist? The answer is no, absolutely not. He's not a racist," attorney Craig Sonner said about his client. "The incident that transpired is not racially motivated or a hate crime in any way. It was self-defense."
Sonner said he's spoken with several of Zimmerman's friends, including some who are African-American.
"They only have good things to say about him," Sonner said.
They're reluctant to come forward, though, because they fear that the backlash over the investigation will make them and their families targets, too, Sonner said.
Sonner declined to detail what transpired between Zimmerman and the 17-year-old Martin, but he said he believes the case falls under Florida's stand-your-ground law, which dictates that a person has the right to stand his or her ground and "meet force with force" if attacked.
"I believe what the evidence will show is that this case does fall under that," Sonner said. "I believe we have a good case."
If charges are brought against his client, Zimmerman would be willing to turn himself in to police, Sonner said. "We will follow the law," Sonner said.
Sonner would not say where Zimmerman was.
A spokeswoman for the Maitland mortgage risk-management firm where Zimmerman reportedly works, Digital Risk, said she couldn't confirm anything about Zimmerman's employment, but that he had not been at work since the shooting.
"Our utmost concern is for the safety of our employees, specifically based on the potential turmoil that could arise from the recent announcement of a bounty for his capture," Brandie Young said Saturday.
Amid the outcry over the lack of charges against Zimmerman, the Sanford police chief and state's attorney in the case have both stepped aside.
The U.S. Justice Department has opened a civil rights probe into the shooting, and a grand jury is scheduled to meet April 10 to consider evidence in the case.
Daryl D. Parks, the Martin family attorney, said federal officials and local officials met with the teen's family Thursday and gave them "a strong sense that (the Department of) Justice was very committed" to investigating the case.
"For us to have had all the people who were there with us and the magnitude of the conversation . this is a very high priority for this administration," he said in a wide-ranging interview with the black journalists' group in Boston.
Indeed, President Barack Obama weighed in Friday, calling the shooting a tragedy and saying, "When I think about this boy, I think about my own kids."
But Parks added "it was clear from Justice's statements that charges of a hate crime are going to be a challenge."
Parks also said the Florida Department of Law Enforcement has told the family's legal team that they know Zimmerman's whereabouts, but that it was not clear whether they are offering protection to Zimmerman, who has been in hiding and has received death threats in recent weeks.
Martin's parents also met Friday with the newly-appointed special prosecutor in the case, and the family's legal team plans to pursue a civil case against the Twin Lakes homeowner's association, Parks said.
About 400 people rallied Saturday in downtown Chicago to protest Martin's killing. In a racially divided city beset by shootings, gang violence and run-ins with police, the teen's death brought to mind the 1955 slaying of Emmitt Till, a 14-year-old black boy from Chicago who was shot and bludgeoned to death while visiting Mississippi for supposedly whistling at a white woman. His body was found in the Tallahatchie River.
No one was ever convicted, but Till's killing galvanized the civil rights movement.
"It's a precedent that with the right excuse it's OK to gun down black males," protester Ashten Fizer said of Martin's killing. "It's a return of Jim Crow."
In Washington, a large crowd gathered in Freedom Plaza to call for justice in the shooting.
Among the demonstrators Saturday was Jimmy Neal, a District of Columbia resident who said his daughter has been asking him questions he didn't want to answer.
"She's asked me the question ... `Why, daddy, when he was carrying candy and a soda or iced tea and why did the man kill him?' I had to explain that to her. And those are discussions you don't plan to have with your kids," Neal said.
"Hoodie Marches" were organized Saturday in two South Carolina cities over social media. Many of the people participating carried bags of Skittles and wore hooded sweat shirts, like the one Martin wore when he was killed.
Martin was holding a bag of the candy while walking to a friend's home from a convenience store when Zimmerman started following him, telling police dispatchers he looked suspicious. At some point, the two got into a fight in the gated community and Zimmerman pulled out his gun.
Meanwhile, authorities say a Florida man is charged with threatening the police chief who temporarily stepped down from the investigation.
The Seminole County Sheriff's Office says John Carnduff Stewart of Melbourne Beach emailed Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee on Friday, saying Lee and his family should be killed. Melbourne Beach is nearly 70 miles south of Sanford.
The sheriff's office says Stewart has sent threatening emails previously, including to Penn State University assistant football coach Mike McQueary.
Stewart was placed on electronic monitoring as a condition of his $10,000 bond.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ents_n_1377627.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
When fox news start to back a black victim;it's a wrap! Larry Elder need to be shot and hung up side down like mussolini.Crackers are getting hip to the game.Zimmerman has no legal defense for his up coming charge.All this coon talk and other nonsenses is to cause misdirection.A hoodie,a bag of candy,and a drink is nothing.Stick to the facts!
1)A kid walks down the street and man starts to following him.
2)the kid is in fear of his safety (he calls a female to back up that belief)
3)more then 3-6 witness hear screams and begging for his life.(that means the shooter life wasn't in jeopardy.)
4)Zimmerman called the police and the police told him not the followed the young man.
5)Zimmerman has called 911 over 40 times (he should have been charge with something or have been investigated).
6)Zimmerman didn't belong to the real neighborhood watch program.
7)Zimmerman may or may not used the word coon (if you go down that road.He might get off,because you will need to prove he shot the young man,because he was black.In fl that might be hard.)
8)2-3 witness tried to tell what they heard and what they saw.The police didn't want to hear their story.Some police even change the story of the witness testimony to help zimmerman (that is called a cover up).
9)They have cameras on the property.None of the video has been released.
Now i'm not no lawyer or DA,but how in the hell can this cracker be free?
People need to have their jobs cut asap!
1)A kid walks down the street and man starts to following him.
2)the kid is in fear of his safety (he calls a female to back up that belief)
3)more then 3-6 witness hear screams and begging for his life.(that means the shooter life wasn't in jeopardy.)
4)Zimmerman called the police and the police told him not the followed the young man.
5)Zimmerman has called 911 over 40 times (he should have been charge with something or have been investigated).
6)Zimmerman didn't belong to the real neighborhood watch program.
7)Zimmerman may or may not used the word coon (if you go down that road.He might get off,because you will need to prove he shot the young man,because he was black.In fl that might be hard.)
8)2-3 witness tried to tell what they heard and what they saw.The police didn't want to hear their story.Some police even change the story of the witness testimony to help zimmerman (that is called a cover up).
9)They have cameras on the property.None of the video has been released.
Now i'm not no lawyer or DA,but how in the hell can this cracker be free?
People need to have their jobs cut asap!
i went to the dallas rally at dallas city hall earlier today
pastor freddie haynes announced at the rally zimmerman had been arrested
i have been looking all over everywhere to find a source to confirm that
havent found a thing
why say something like that without a credible confirmed source...why the hell would he say that
i was ready to tear my sign up.....im glad i didnt
again...why would he say that
pastor freddie haynes announced at the rally zimmerman had been arrested
i have been looking all over everywhere to find a source to confirm that
havent found a thing
why say something like that without a credible confirmed source...why the hell would he say that
i was ready to tear my sign up.....im glad i didnt
again...why would he say that
On twitter, White ppl r threatening spike lee and warning him they'll come get him if anyone goes after Zimmerman lololol
Why are they threatening Spike Lee? What did Spike Lee say?
These white people are going crazy.....
These white people are going crazy.....
Man white ppl on twitter r hilarious... Their racism is full retard and on display ...let some white folks come for spike, Brooklyn would fuck them up...
Spike was going hard on Zimmerman and some cacs are mad bout it.
yeah the internet shows truly how racist they are...
He would be a fool if he did that. The burden of proof is on the prosecution (if he gets arrested). They have to prove his version of events are false and since there doesn't seem to be any eye witnesses to how the confrontation started, its his word they have to go on.
The jury might not think so. Plus his word has to make sense, not sure jury will believe that just out of no where Trayvon just start beating him for no reason.
The only word I have heard is that it was self defense I wonder what the initial story was , would definitely like to hear the initial police interview (if any exists)
I swear to God sometimes I hate white people..so it's Trayvons fault he got killed...I really hope us black people can stick together, cuz we are behind enemy lines.
The world we live in.....
This fucking corrupt system will do all they can to cover this up on Zimmerman's behave and if they do...I can most definitely see this getting more so out of hand.
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man that video makes me want to choke a white guy so bad. But yeah their time is almost up. That became apparent when Obama became President. Now cases like Trayvon shows the institutional racism still exist. Cops can still kill black people and no one blinks. It happens a couple times a year in NYC. Zimmerman was for whatever reason extended the benefits Cops give to each other and it backfired. Hopefully this can lead to a change to how these cac cops cover for each other when they kill a minority.
I want that Doomsday Prepping, raccoon hat wearing, gimp dead!
See an updated photo of Zimmerman. The media was trying to pull a fast one with that old picture of Zimmerman.
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Definitely a spic.. And nowhere near 260 lbs.. Dude is 5'8... He's probably 170-180 tops...
All I know is an armed man killed a 17 year unarmed kid. Race is irrelevant. Unless they can produce evidence this kid was in some way threatening the man with a weapon, which it very much appears they cannot, then the law is clear on what should be done. Any attempt by any law enforcement or government official to justify this act should be fully investigated and prosecuted by the federal government.
The "Stand Your Ground" laws do not allow someone to murder someone else no matter how threatened they feel. They must be threatened by lethal force for them to pull a gun and fire.
If Zimmerman and the others are actually law-abiding citizens, then they will step forward and pay the price of their greivous, mortal error. If they are nothing more than corrupt, pathetic racists that don't see killing a person of a particularly ethnicity as wrong, then I hope the federal government ferrets these scum out and burns them down.
I've known tons of guys Trayvon's age that went walking in the rain for no other reason than they felt like some fresh air or wanted to go to the store. 17 year old kids don't worry about the rain or elements. They're full of energy and willing to wander in the rain if they feel like it.
The entire argument "What is a young man doing walking in the rain" is extraordinarily weak and ridiculous. Young people do things like this no matter their ethnic background. Did it myself when I was young and didn't care. Sometimes you enjoy walking by yourself outside in the dark of night. It's peaceful.
Zimmerman needs to go to jail. That sheriff needs to be removed from his position. He only seems willing to do his job when the skin color suits his personal sensibilities.
This is one time I hope Obama uses his power to fully pursue these scum that won't step forward and own up to their crime. You commit murder because you made a fucked up decision, you better be willing to own up to it if you want any sympathy or forgiveness.
The "Stand Your Ground" laws do not allow someone to murder someone else no matter how threatened they feel. They must be threatened by lethal force for them to pull a gun and fire.
If Zimmerman and the others are actually law-abiding citizens, then they will step forward and pay the price of their greivous, mortal error. If they are nothing more than corrupt, pathetic racists that don't see killing a person of a particularly ethnicity as wrong, then I hope the federal government ferrets these scum out and burns them down.
I've known tons of guys Trayvon's age that went walking in the rain for no other reason than they felt like some fresh air or wanted to go to the store. 17 year old kids don't worry about the rain or elements. They're full of energy and willing to wander in the rain if they feel like it.
The entire argument "What is a young man doing walking in the rain" is extraordinarily weak and ridiculous. Young people do things like this no matter their ethnic background. Did it myself when I was young and didn't care. Sometimes you enjoy walking by yourself outside in the dark of night. It's peaceful.
Zimmerman needs to go to jail. That sheriff needs to be removed from his position. He only seems willing to do his job when the skin color suits his personal sensibilities.
This is one time I hope Obama uses his power to fully pursue these scum that won't step forward and own up to their crime. You commit murder because you made a fucked up decision, you better be willing to own up to it if you want any sympathy or forgiveness.
Decent post but that part jumped out at me..... white people really live in this fantasy world where "race is irrelevant".... it's a fascinating perspective.
Decent post but that part jumped out at me..... white people really live in this fantasy world where "race is irrelevant".... it's a fascinating perspective.
"they always get away"
"fucking coons"
Race is irrelevant....... yet that was the motivating factor in Zimmerman following trayvon and getting out of the car.
Man thanks a lot for posting that picture. And I hope and pray the public does not go to sleep on this one. And I see they are trying very hard to put them to sleep. Right now the police dept. can go and arrest Zimmerman. But they are trying to stick with there original lie. I tell you this seems like a new breed of 007's. Just came out after the bullshit they pulled on blacks in Libya.That must have been practice in Libya. Before they start it here.
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"they always get away"
"fucking coons"
Race is irrelevant....... yet that was the motivating factor in Zimmerman following trayvon and getting out of the car.
It's really ridiculous. Even if we leave aside the "fucking coons" comment, which although entirely believable is really quite difficult to prove conclusively, the simple facts are that Trayvon was both the victim of George Zimmerman's racial profiling and Sanford PD's racist/unorthodox investigation (no tox screen or background check for Zimmerman, no serious effort to investigate witness claims, altering of witness testimony etc etc etc).
Given the facts of the case any assertion concluding that race is a non-factor is absurd in the extreme.
Simply put...Zimmerman and the Police dept thought Trayvon was simply some junkie burglar.....
this is why events transpired like they did.
this is why events transpired like they did.
and they thought he was a junkie burglar because he was black.
I agree with most of what you said, but race definitely is playing a part in this entire thing you would have to be blind to not see it.
agreed
Just living in America does. And how they are killing others in different countries i.e. Afghanistan and Iraq. Then they say we are the violent ones.
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