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Could Aliens domesticate humans?

geechiedan

geechiedan

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While humans are the most controlling intelligent species on earth...the reality is we've only domesticated a small fraction of all the animals on this planet. Humans have domesticated other humans (slavery) so if aliens invaded could they treat us the way we treat dogs and horses for example.

Pets, work animals, companions etc...

and what ethnic groups would be the easiest and hardest to domesticate (yes..break it down along racial lines)?

I think the africans would be the easiest comparatively speaking to domesticate to an alien invasion. eastern europeans would be easier than western europeans who would probably be hunted to extinction or have their number severely reduced. asians..chinese would be easier than the japanese but once they encountered superior firepower they would fall in place. Indians and middle easterners would be too much trouble and get wiped out as well.
 
How you know we arent domesticated now? This planet is prob one big zoo and we are being watched
by Hundreds of civilizations
 
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geechiedan said:
i'm talking to another species
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what would be the difference?
all the heavy lifting was already done

all the aliens would have to do is pose as our politicians an take over
shit they could fall out the sky an start handin out cellphones 10x better than the iphone an they'd own everything
 
geechiedan said:
While humans are the most controlling intelligent species on earth...the reality is we've only domesticated a small fraction of all the animals on this planet. Humans have domesticated other humans (slavery) so if aliens invaded could they treat us the way we treat dogs and horses for example.

Pets, work animals, companions etc...

and what ethnic groups would be the easiest and hardest to domesticate (yes..break it down along racial lines)?

I think the africans would be the easiest comparatively speaking to domesticate to an alien invasion. eastern europeans would be easier than western europeans who would probably be hunted to extinction or have their number severely reduced. asians..chinese would be easier than the japanese but once they encountered superior firepower they would fall in place. Indians and middle easterners would be too much trouble and get wiped out as well.
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Why do you think Africans would be the easiest? How did you come up with this idea?

Also, slavery and domestication are two different things. Slavery is a system of buying and selling human beings and using them for free labor. No one ever domesticated Africans. Africans were the original humans. All other humans have have come from us(black people)

Domestication is a process of breeding animals in order to get traits that are desired by humans. An example would be humans domesticating wolves into dogs.
 
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I wonder if the Jews in Nazi Germany were worried about getting detained and gassed by space aliens.:rolleyes:
 
About the only value we have is as food for another species or as mothers or fathers for a dying species. If a species has the technology to come this far, then they pretty much have the technology to do almost anything. Humans would not be needed for manual labor. I remember I saw some old show on TV where a species used to wear masks because they all looked alike as they ended up cloning one another to save their civilization.
 
mike123 said:
what would be the difference?
all the heavy lifting was already done

all the aliens would have to do is pose as our politicians an take over
shit they could fall out the sky an start handin out cellphones 10x better than the iphone an they'd own everything
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:eek::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
According to David Icke and many others, they already have.

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As Stephan Hawkings said, and i'll paraphrase, Humans better hope that aliens don't come here. Just think about what happened to the natives when European explorers arrived.
 
kennysmith_se said:
As Stephan Hawkings said, and i'll paraphrase, Humans better hope that aliens don't come here. Just think about what happened to the natives when European explorers arrived.
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:lol: :lol:

Don't say that around these bean pie eating kneegrows. They think that is "white thinking" and that aliens would come here and hug us. Everything would be Eden like it was in KMT. :hmm:
 
I've always thought what if aliens came treated us like live stock, we would be kept in cages all day long and fed a fatty diet just to be skinned and eaten like chicken
 
Flawless said:
I've always thought what if aliens came treated us like live stock, we would be kept in cages all day long and fed a fatty diet just to be skinned and eaten like chicken
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Another dumb ass nigga. Who thinks about shit like this? :smh:
 
Scary thread for real!! No human alive could dispute being a part of anything they don't know they are already a part of. We could be Reality TV Planet for Universal Entertainment and NEVER know it!! :eek:
 
It is unlikely our species could be successfully domesticated to the degree to which would be necessary to be useful to a race that can traverse galaxies or cross dimensions. Their requirements for a labor or service force would easily exceed what we are capable of. Even on the most basic level, we're simply not worth the effort of domesticating.
  • It takes us about 20 years to reach physical, emotional and intellectual maturity, after which we can perform adequately under high stress for maybe another 20 years before the energy we output is offset by the energy required to keep us healthy, not to mention raising our young.
  • Our young have long gestational periods, are born live and are all but absolutely useless for the first few years of their lives.
  • We're weak. We're tall, lanky apes with soft skin, minimal body hair, generally sub-par musculature, very limited native environmental range and genetic predispositions towards a great many chronic illnesses. We also have sexual and mammary organs exposed externally at all times, which can be physically distracting if not hindering for beasts of burden.
  • We're sapient. We as a group are only minimally intelligent but are obstinate and highly emotional, thus prone to unpredictable and oft irrational behavior. Though we are easy to brainwash, our natural curiosity and drive to be free will eventually compel some degree of rebellion.

Given those points a civilization so much more advanced than our own that was in need of a labor or service force would have very little need or patience for keeping us around. They would easily have the capability to manufacture artificial entities to fill whatever role they deemed necessary. Even if they were strapped for resources, it is our planet, and certainly not us that would be useful. There's only but so much we could actually do for a higher tier civilization and with their level of technology artificial labor would simply be cheaper, stronger and more reliable. If visitors were intent to utilize rather than befriend us, mankind would most likely find itself relegated to the role of some sort of alternative stock.
  • Homo sapiens domesticus? We could, after a few generations of genetic manipulation or selective breeding, become fad companions. In our current state of evolution we'd just be too much of a hassle, but after being forcefully evolved into a new species there could be quite a niche for mankind as a fairly intelligent, minimally troublesome and reasonably helpful pet.
  • With generally 100lbs of meat per adult individual we could make an interesting food source. Simply because of our sapience though, we'd be a limited delicacy. The visitors would only be consuming us to not be wasteful. Maintaining herds of humans would be an irritating and daunting task as unlike cattle, we wouldn't just graze peacefully day after day with the knowledge that we were simply fattening ourselves for slaughter, we'd resist. The visitors would not have the time or patience to deal with raising human cattle. They'd eat us (or feed us to their native beasts) into extinction over a few generations and then proceed to reap the planet's resources.
  • Another scenario would be the human computer. The human battery as understood from popular fiction isn't plausible because the energy needed to fuel the human body is greater than what the body actually produces, and if a means exists to expend fuel so carelessly, the human body isn't needed at all... unless the visitors harvested us not for our thermal energy but for our synaptic energy. The human brain is a multi-petabyte speed computer with several terabytes of memory and capable of on the fly cognition. That's phenomenal, but super computers are getting close. The clincher though is that these super computers are enormous, sometimes even the size of a mini bus, are extremely expensive and have immense power and cooling requirements. The only real caveat of the human brain is that most of the processing power is devoted to keeping the non conscious functions of the body running, i.e. heartbeat, kidneys processing, stomach digesting etc.. Given a system wherein the body was immobilized and fed just enough to support the brain and keep it healthy, an advanced civilization might be able to jack into the cerebral cortex and construct a super biological computer comprised of the synaptic processes of hundreds of millions of humans. There would be little need to keep us lucid. The sole purpose of our bodies would be to support the brain, and the less consciousness, waking, sub or otherwise that we possess, the better.

In summation, I've not a doubt that we can be subjugated by a race advanced enough to visit us from alien space, but I seriously doubt we could be successfully domesticated in our current state. I believe visitors that sought to usurp our resources, if they didn't simply exterminate us, would have to resort to creative measures to make keeping mankind alive worthwhile. I'm certain though that were the situation to come to that, they would have to change us fundamentally in order to do so.
 
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Echelon said:
It is unlikely our species could be successfully domesticated to the degree to which would be necessary to be useful to a race that can traverse galaxies or cross dimensions. Their requirements for a labor or service force would easily exceed what we are capable of. Even on the most basic level, we're simply not worth the effort of domesticating.
  • It takes us about 20 years to reach physical, emotional and intellectual maturity, after which we can perform adequately under high stress for maybe another 20 years before the energy we output is offset by the energy required to keep us healthy, not to mention raising our young.
  • Our young have long gestational periods, are born live and are all but absolutely useless for the first few years of their lives.
  • We're weak. We're tall, lanky apes with soft skin, minimal body hair, generally sub-par musculature, very limited native environmental range and genetic predispositions towards a great many chronic illnesses. We also have sexual and mammary organs exposed externally at all times, which can be physically distracting if not hindering for beasts of burden.
  • We're sapient. We as a group are only minimally intelligent but are obstinate and highly emotional, thus prone to unpredictable and oft irrational behavior. Though we are easy to brainwash, our natural curiosity and drive to be free will eventually compel some degree of rebellion.

Given those points a civilization so much more advanced than our own that was in need of a labor or service force would have very little need or patience for keeping us around. They would easily have the capability to manufacture artificial entities to fill whatever role they deemed necessary. Even if they were strapped for resources, it is our planet, and certainly not us that would be useful. There's only but so much we could actually do for a higher tier civilization and with their level of technology artificial labor would simply be cheaper, stronger and more reliable. If visitors were intent to utilize rather than befriend us, mankind would most likely find itself relegated to the role of some sort of alternative stock.
  • Homo sapiens domesticus? We could, after a few generations of genetic manipulation or selective breeding, become fad companions. In our current state of evolution we'd just be too much of a hassle, but after being forcefully evolved into a new species there could be quite a niche for mankind as a fairly intelligent, minimally troublesome and reasonably helpful pet.
  • With generally 100lbs of meat per adult individual we could make an interesting food source. Simply because of our sapience though, we'd be a limited delicacy. The visitors would only be consuming us to not be wasteful. Maintaining herds of humans would be an irritating and daunting task as unlike cattle, we wouldn't just graze peacefully day after day with the knowledge that we were simply fattening ourselves for slaughter, we'd resist. The visitors would not have the time or patience to deal with raising human cattle. They'd eat us (or feed us to their native beasts) into extinction over a few generations and then proceed to reap the planet's resources.
  • Another scenario would be the human computer. The human battery as understood from popular fiction isn't plausible because the energy needed to fuel the human body is greater than what the body actually produces, and if a means exists to expend fuel so carelessly, the human body isn't needed at all... unless the visitors harvested us not for our thermal energy but for our synaptic energy. The human brain is a multi-petabyte speed computer with several terabytes of memory and capable of on the fly cognition. That's phenomenal, but super computers are getting close. The clincher though is that these super computers are enormous, sometimes even the size of a mini bus, are extremely expensive and have immense power and cooling requirements. The only real caveat of the human brain is that most of the processing power is devoted to keeping the non conscious functions of the body running, i.e. heartbeat, kidneys processing, stomach digesting etc.. Given a system wherein the body was immobilized and fed just enough to support the brain and keep it healthy, an advanced civilization might be able to jack into the cerebral cortex and construct a super biological computer comprised of the synaptic processes of hundreds of millions of humans. There would be little need to keep us lucid. The sole purpose of our bodies would be to support the brain, and the less consciousness, waking, sub or otherwise that we possess, the better.

In summation, I've not a doubt that we can be subjugated by a race advanced enough to visit us from alien space, but I highly doubt we could successfully domesticated in our current state. I believe visitors that sought to usurp our resources, if they didn't simply exterminate us, would have to resort to creative measures to make keeping mankind alive worthwhile. I'm certain though that were the situation to come to that, they would have to change us fundamentally in order to do so.
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Let me guess you have acended to a higher plain of existance :hmm:
 
Echelon said:
It is unlikely our species could be successfully domesticated to the degree to which would be necessary to be useful to a race that can traverse galaxies or cross dimensions. Their requirements for a labor or service force would easily exceed what we are capable of. Even on the most basic level, we're simply not worth the effort of domesticating.
  • It takes us about 20 years to reach physical, emotional and intellectual maturity, after which we can perform adequately under high stress for maybe another 20 years before the energy we output is offset by the energy required to keep us healthy, not to mention raising our young.
  • Our young have long gestational periods, are born live and are all but absolutely useless for the first few years of their lives.
  • We're weak. We're tall, lanky apes with soft skin, minimal body hair, generally sub-par musculature, very limited native environmental range and genetic predispositions towards a great many chronic illnesses. We also have sexual and mammary organs exposed externally at all times, which can be physically distracting if not hindering for beasts of burden.
  • We're sapient. We as a group are only minimally intelligent but are obstinate and highly emotional, thus prone to unpredictable and oft irrational behavior. Though we are easy to brainwash, our natural curiosity and drive to be free will eventually compel some degree of rebellion.

Given those points a civilization so much more advanced than our own that was in need of a labor or service force would have very little need or patience for keeping us around. They would easily have the capability to manufacture artificial entities to fill whatever role they deemed necessary. Even if they were strapped for resources, it is our planet, and certainly not us that would be useful. There's only but so much we could actually do for a higher tier civilization and with their level of technology artificial labor would simply be cheaper, stronger and more reliable. If visitors were intent to utilize rather than befriend us, mankind would most likely find itself relegated to the role of some sort of alternative stock.
  • Homo sapiens domesticus? We could, after a few generations of genetic manipulation or selective breeding, become fad companions. In our current state of evolution we'd just be too much of a hassle, but after being forcefully evolved into a new species there could be quite a niche for mankind as a fairly intelligent, minimally troublesome and reasonably helpful pet.
  • With generally 100lbs of meat per adult individual we could make an interesting food source. Simply because of our sapience though, we'd be a limited delicacy. The visitors would only be consuming us to not be wasteful. Maintaining herds of humans would be an irritating and daunting task as unlike cattle, we wouldn't just graze peacefully day after day with the knowledge that we were simply fattening ourselves for slaughter, we'd resist. The visitors would not have the time or patience to deal with raising human cattle. They'd eat us (or feed us to their native beasts) into extinction over a few generations and then proceed to reap the planet's resources.
  • Another scenario would be the human computer. The human battery as understood from popular fiction isn't plausible because the energy needed to fuel the human body is greater than what the body actually produces, and if a means exists to expend fuel so carelessly, the human body isn't needed at all... unless the visitors harvested us not for our thermal energy but for our synaptic energy. The human brain is a multi-petabyte speed computer with several terabytes of memory and capable of on the fly cognition. That's phenomenal, but super computers are getting close. The clincher though is that these super computers are enormous, sometimes even the size of a mini bus, are extremely expensive and have immense power and cooling requirements. The only real caveat of the human brain is that most of the processing power is devoted to keeping the non conscious functions of the body running, i.e. heartbeat, kidneys processing, stomach digesting etc.. Given a system wherein the body was immobilized and fed just enough to support the brain and keep it healthy, an advanced civilization might be able to jack into the cerebral cortex and construct a super biological computer comprised of the synaptic processes of hundreds of millions of humans. There would be little need to keep us lucid. The sole purpose of our bodies would be to support the brain, and the less consciousness, waking, sub or otherwise that we possess, the better.

In summation, I've not a doubt that we can be subjugated by a race advanced enough to visit us from alien space, but I seriously doubt we could be successfully domesticated in our current state. I believe visitors that sought to usurp our resources, if they didn't simply exterminate us, would have to resort to creative measures to make keeping mankind alive worthwhile. I'm certain though that were the situation to come to that, they would have to change us fundamentally in order to do so.
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interestin break down
i've come to some the same conclusions
except the human super computer thing

that could easily happen without aliens
 

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