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How was "Space" created before the Universe

Selfscience said:
Just adding another perspective to things......
Aether Physics Model
http://www.esotericscience.com/Physics.aspx
http://www.16pi2.com/joomla/

I'm not its new to me so I am skimming through it and I am finding some interesting arguments. Are you familiar with this Sean?
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No, i'm not familiar with this model but at first glance it's similar to WSM in that it rejects the notion of particles. It also says matter is formed from the 'fluid' motion of the aether 'in' and 'out' of 4th dimension. Though i don't really get the necessity of a 4th dimension. Good find.

Their explanation of electron proton interactions through the 4th dimension is ...
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Fig 2.1 Aether vortex model of the electron.​

... reminds me of this guy who explains quantum entangled particles -- using his HDI (Higher Dimensional Interaction) theory -- as particles connected as they penetrate 3-D space into higher dimensional space:
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sean69 said:
No, i'm not familiar with this model but at first glance it's similar to WSM in that it rejects the notion of particles. It also says matter is formed from the 'fluid' motion of the aether 'in' and 'out' of 4th dimension. Though i don't really get the necessity of a 4th dimension. Good find.

Their explanation of electron proton interactions through the 4th dimension is ...
vortex.jpg
Fig 2.1 Aether vortex model of the electron.​

... reminds me of this guy who explains quantum entangled particles -- using his HDI (Higher Dimensional Interaction) theory -- as particles connected as they penetrate 3-D space into higher dimensional space:
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are there any free versions of this book floating around?
 
Its more theory based science fiction than regular sci-fi
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_sci-fi

Its good for those who may not want to pick up a quantum or astrophysics text=book but are interested in the application of it.

For example Manifold Space explores the Fermi Paradox and possible real-world applications and consequences of it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox
 
attested said:
I would recommend a few Stephan Baxter books for those interested in topics like this

interesting ideas on superior races
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeelee


Good books on different perspectives on the topic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold:_Space

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exultant_(novel)

hard sci-fi but well researched and pretty accurate
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Yeah, I read 'Vacuum Diagrams' some years ago . . . I liked it a lot. I had to find another 'go to' sci-fi author after Michael Crichton kicked the bucket.

JG
 
John_Gault said:
Yeah, I read 'Vacuum Diagrams' some years ago . . . I liked it a lot. I had to find another 'go to' sci-fi author after Michael Crichton kicked the bucket.

JG
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'Vacuum Diagrams is pretty good.
I would recommend it to anyone with knowledge of astrophysics and some quantum physics to check it out.
 
John_Gault said:


What this experiment does for me is define a juncture where contextual reality ends and objective reality begins. This tells me that much of what 'we' describe as reality, at least in a general sense, is too dependent or constrained by our biology and neurology. Perhaps it's the case that if we're speaking of 'experiential' observation, then it's contextual, whereas properties that are independent of 'our' sensory machinery describe an objective reality.

Your thoughts?


JG
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prowess said:
anything and everything can be examined to the point of mystification.

matter even gets allusive at the atomic level, so how do all you choose what to believe or not to believe?

it's all essentially an exercise in faith, the only question is whether you will only believe in matter; or will you expand your beliefs into the realm of the spiritual
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prowess said:
anything and everything can be examined to the point of mystification.

matter even gets allusive at the atomic level, so how do all you cocky brothers choose what to believe or not?

it's all essentially an exercise in faith, the only question is whether you only believe in matter; or will you expand into the spiritual
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You say: "... matter even gets allusive at the atomic level,..."

How do you know this? Who told you this? :confused: Faith?

It's because you people insist on describing matter on terms of fucking particles. As long as you do this, it will forever remain elusive...
 
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We are a global network of neurochemical reactions. And the self-amplifying cycle of acceptance & acknowledgement, sustained by the daily choices in our interactions, is the chain-reaction that will ultimately define our collective ability to overcome imagined differences
 
I'm more confused than when this thread first started now. :hmm:

WTF is the 4th dimension also? I mean... so life is basically a "dream"? Because I'm not understanding shit right and nothing really makes logical sense. :confused:
 
o0gregory0o said:
I'm more confused than when this thread first started now. :hmm:

WTF is the 4th dimension also? I mean... so life is basically a "dream"? Because I'm not understanding shit right and nothing really makes logical sense. :confused:
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sean69 said:
You say: "... matter even gets allusive at the atomic level,..."

How do you know this? Who told you this? :confused: Faith?

It's because you people insist on describing matter on terms of fucking particles. As long as you do this, it will forever remain elusive...
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how do you describe matter?

whats your definition?
 
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