Official BREAKING BAD Season 4 Discussion Thread 10p SUNDAYS

It was a mistake. Even Gus' bodyguard said he should do it alone. C'mon, a Boss killing someone at a public location? Mistake.
But Gus wasn't letting ANYONE get his kill.Dude murked his homeboy right in front of his face and he had to sit there and watch him bleed out from tha hole in his head.

Walt knew that Hector shit with Gus was personal thats why he set up tha whole situation tha way he did cause Gus would have to see Hector one last time before he murked him.
 
he died cuz he fucked up and let his emotions get the best of him. he always wanted to kill old dude himself, and since gus thought that he was speaking to the dea, he felt that there was a time limit to kill him, with his own hands.

This.

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... The show has been leading up to this. They been showing since season 2 and 3 the relationship of Gus and the cartel. When they showed that flashback of Gus and his partner this season, it really told us how deep this beef is. It was past business, it was a personal matter. Its just like when Gus went to Mexico to poison the boss himself.


And wow at Walt poisoning the kid. People on this thread was right the whole time. But Walt isn't stupid, I think he knew that flower wasn't that dangerous to kill...

Now my question is... if basically all the cartel that was linked to Walt is dead (that we know of), whats going to happen for the next 2 final season?

That shit was the only thing that wasn't business... that shit was personal. He fucked up, but I bet he was feeling himself after that cartel move. He was still careful and had his boy check the spot twice. To bad his henchmen wasn't thorough.


Yup that's why I said that was Gus' only mistake this whole series. He took that shit personal. He's been the most careful gangster I've ever seen up until that point.

Since this was supposed to be the last season it could only go one of two ways. Gus had to die or Walt had to die. When I heard that the series got extended for a couple more seasons I knew Walt wasn't going anywhere.
 
he died cuz he fucked up and let his emotions get the best of him. he always wanted to kill old dude himself, and since gus thought that he was speaking to the dea, he felt that there was a time limit to kill him, with his own hands.

He wanted dude to suffer in that nursing home for the rest of his life. It became necessary to kill dude after he went to the DEA. Gus thought it was clear and he wanted the final satisfaction of offing dude himself. Stupid, but he saw no danger cause he saw no cops, no wires and no connection to Walt or anyone else he had beef with.
 
The only things I've came up with thats going to happen for the next seasons are...

- the dealers that Gus dealt with in the other states are going to try get Walt to cook
- Mike links up with some other drug lord in mexico and they go after Walt.
- Hank still searching for answers. Now he knows Gus was linked to the cartel, he still wants to find the cook. Walt better hope that old folks' home got no cameras.


... somehow, I know Mike will have to do part of the next seasons.
 
But Gus wasn't letting ANYONE get his kill.Dude murked his homeboy right in front of his face and he had to sit there and watch him bleed out from tha hole in his head.

Walt knew that Hector shit with Gus was personal thats why he set up tha whole situation tha way he did cause Gus would have to see Hector one last time before he murked him.

Sounds like we both in agreement. Taking that shit personal was Gus' only mistake of the whole series. :yes: And it cost him big time.
 
Walt is a scumbag. I'm actually rooting for him to get killed in the final season. Brock nearly died. This dude was willing to sacrifice a child to save himself.... Just like Gus.

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Stupid move by Gus to go see the dude himself & off him. First mistake he's made ever!!! And it made no sense.

If you saw the writing and scenes Gus had with the cripple (even the tension in the flashback) then you know Gus wanted to do that more than anything,

Btw: that last image of gus is seered into my brain now....i wanna see it again but i don't.....
damn good ending. i feel like i ate a wholesome meal after watching this
 
i had to go cry in the car after that shit mane.... he was one of my favorite charaters ever on tv. hell that was my favorite show on tv... and they ended the show right on top, no shark unlinke my second favorite 24 that shit jumped 2 whales 4 aligators and 3 sharks in one fell swoop :smh:

dis show a lil slow in the action department cause it usually goes down in the first 3 eps and the season finally. but it is good none the less.

i still cant get into walking dead.... Ill try to give it a go but i dunnnooo :confused:

boardwalk empire is pretty good too. It is slow too though.
 
Walt is a scumbag. I'm actually rooting for him to get killed in the final season. Brock nearly died. This dude was willing to sacrifice a child to save himself.... Just like Gus.

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the kid survived right? Walt isn't stupid.. that flower probably wasn't as dangerous as ricen.
 
Walt is a scumbag. I'm actually rooting for him to get killed in the final season. Brock nearly died. This dude was willing to sacrifice a child to save himself.... Just like Gus.

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The whole point of the show is for Walt to transform into Gus.
 
Yup that's why I said that was Gus' only mistake this whole series. He took that shit personal. He's been the most careful gangster I've ever seen up until that point.

Since this was supposed to be the last season it could only go one of two ways. Gus had to die or Walt had to die. When I heard that the series got extended for a couple more seasons I knew Walt wasn't going anywhere.

Next season, is the last season man, they have to wrap everything up and I bet you cancer is what will kill Walt not Hank, The Cartel, or anything else, just cancer.

From the site:
Series creator Vince Gilligan has indicated that he intends to conclude Breaking Bad with the fifth season.[13] In early August 2011, negotiations began over a deal regarding the fifth and possible final season between the network AMC and Sony Pictures Television, the production company of the series. AMC proposed a shortened fifth season (six to eight episodes, instead of 13) to cut costs, but the producers declined. Sony then approached other cable networks about possibly picking up the show if a deal could not be made.[14] On August 14, 2011, a deal was made where AMC renewed the series for a final 16 episodes.[5]
 
Next season, is the last season man, they have to wrap everything up and I bet you cancer is what will kill Walt not Hank, The Cartel, or anything else, just cancer.

From the site:
Series creator Vince Gilligan has indicated that he intends to conclude Breaking Bad with the fifth season.[13] In early August 2011, negotiations began over a deal regarding the fifth and possible final season between the network AMC and Sony Pictures Television, the production company of the series. AMC proposed a shortened fifth season (six to eight episodes, instead of 13) to cut costs, but the producers declined. Sony then approached other cable networks about possibly picking up the show if a deal could not be made.[14] On August 14, 2011, a deal was made where AMC renewed the series for a final 16 episodes.[5]

isn't the final 16 getting split into 2 seasons?
 
The whole point of the show is for Walt to transform into Gus.

I disagree. The basis of the show was based on season 1, episode 2, "Cat's In The Bag". When Walt was in class and his lesson was on chirality – a key concept in organic chemistry and an extremely important consideration in living systems. He said chiral molecules are related as an object and its non-superimposable mirror image (wrote it on the blackboard).

Walt gave the example of your hands. Your left hand and right hand are mirror images of each other, but they cannot be superimposed – no matter how you arrange your hands, you cannot align all the parts (fingers, palm, back, thumb etc.) exactly. Many molecules are the same – they exist as two enantiomers, which can have very different properties.

This is how Walt's two personalities are. He is a different person with cancer than he was before cancer, even though he is the same. The Chiral nature of his humanity.
 
I disagree. The basis of the show was based on season 1, episode 2, "Cat's In The Bag". When Walt was in class and his lesson was on chirality – a key concept in organic chemistry and an extremely important consideration in living systems. He said chiral molecules are related as an object and its non-superimposable mirror image (wrote it on the blackboard).

Walt gave the example of your hands. Your left hand and right hand are mirror images of each other, but they cannot be superimposed – no matter how you arrange your hands, you cannot align all the parts (fingers, palm, back, thumb etc.) exactly. Many molecules are the same – they exist as two enantiomers, which can have very different properties.

This is how Walt's two personalities are. He is a different person with cancer than he was before cancer, even though he is the same. The Chiral nature of his humanity.

I agree.


If people been following since season 1... you would know that Walt can never turn fully into Gus. All he is doing is providing for his family and keeping them safe. I already see him for like 4-5 time trying to get out of the drug game, but something is going to drag him back in again.
 
Good finale. Not at all what I expected or predicted. Walt really did poison the kid. I still don't see how he managed that, but it all fits into place now. The gun spinning towards the plant; Walt being AWOL for most of the day; Jesse getting his cigarettes lifted off him and Walt being prepared for a confrontation with Jesse.

It's almost too neat, but Hector really was the chink in Gus's armor so I give the writes props for being consistent with that.

Damn, though if anyone remembers Walt being at the rest home he's right back in fire.

Also, Walt's got no money now, so it won't be long before he gets entangled in that shit again. Does Jesse still have money?
 
I disagree. The basis of the show was based on season 1, episode 2, "Cat's In The Bag". When Walt was in class and his lesson was on chirality – a key concept in organic chemistry and an extremely important consideration in living systems. He said chiral molecules are related as an object and its non-superimposable mirror image (wrote it on the blackboard).

Walt gave the example of your hands. Your left hand and right hand are mirror images of each other, but they cannot be superimposed – no matter how you arrange your hands, you cannot align all the parts (fingers, palm, back, thumb etc.) exactly. Many molecules are the same – they exist as two enantiomers, which can have very different properties.

This is how Walt's two personalities are. He is a different person with cancer than he was before cancer, even though he is the same. The Chiral nature of his humanity.

All I know is that the actor who plays Walt said, in an interview, that he was told by the shows creator even before they shot the pilot that the point of the show was to make his character into Scarface...
 
The background music for this episode seemed so perfect. When Gus walked up to Tio's room....the buildup...wasn't as tense as the "one minute final scene" but damn if the music while they burned the lab down wasn't appropriate.
 
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