Y'all Azz "Brainwashed"

[QueEx]

Herman Cain:
Blacks 'brainwashed' to vote for liberals

GOP presidential candidate Herman
Cain says black voters have been
"brainwashed"


<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">"African Americans have been brainwashed into not being open minded,
not even considering a conservative point of view,"</span> Cain says, according
to quotes posted on CNN's PoliticalTicker blog.

"I have received some of that same vitriol simply because I am running for
the Republican nomination as a conservative. So it's just brainwashing and
people not being open minded, pure and simple."





http://content.usatoday.com/communi...2011/09/herman-cain-blacks-brainwashed-cnn-/1

 

[QueEx]

Like I said in another thread:

I've always found it interesting when a "so-called" black person resorts to typically white divide-and-conquer tactics, when dealing, debating, discussing, etc., with OTHER BLACK PEOPLE.​

 

[muckraker10021]

"A Black man voting for the Republicans makes about
as much sense as a chicken voting for Col. Sanders,"

Rev. J.C. Watts Sr. father of former republican congressman J.C. Watts

Jet magazine 1999

 

[thoughtone]

This article was going to be my "Race Card Alert"! Republicans don't think Black folk are smart eight to make make there own decisions Is there any more evidence why the GOP will never get any more than 5% of the Black vote?

 

[thoughtone]

"A Black man voting for the Republicans makes about
as much sense as a chicken voting for Col. Sanders,"

Rev. J.C. Watts Sr. father of former republican congressman J.C. Watts

Jet magazine 1999

...and his son was one of the few republicans I would vote for.

 

[thoughtone]

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[nittie]

Cain could be a better role model than Obama. He's been CEO, a self made rich guy. Obama never had a real job, never accomplished anything in the private sector except marry Michelle. The comparison doesn't mean Blacks should vote Rep but maybe we should remember it was "OUR" party first.

 

[thoughtone]

Cain could be a better role model than Obama. He's been CEO, a self made rich guy. Obama never had a real job, never accomplished anything in the private sector except marry Michelle. The comparison doesn't mean Blacks should vote Rep but maybe we should remember it was "OUR" party first.

I guess you're right. President Obama never accomplished anything in the so called private sector. He only attended and graduated from two Ivy League schools, became the first Black editor of the Harvard Law Review Journal. Became only one of less than 10 Black US senators in history. Of course with his resume, instead of becoming a professor at the prestigious University of Chicago, he could have made made millions, possibly billions at any Fortune 500 company he chose and then you would have elevated his financial accomplishments the same way you diminish his public service accomplishments.

I'm sure you not knowing how Cain got his start working for that evil, wasteful federal government in the Defense Department and then as CEO of the Pillsbury subsidiary, Godfathers Pizza by eliminating jobs rather than creating jobs.

Not that I am diminishing Cains accomplishments. I am proud of him as a Black Man for his success. Especially from where he came from. But just because someone makes a lot of money, does not make then eminentlyqualified to be president. Madoff made a lot of money. The criminals at Enron made a lot of money. GW had an MBA and made a lot of money in business as a business man.

GW was called President CEO and look what happened.

 

[QueEx]

The comparison doesn't mean Blacks should vote Rep but maybe we should remember it was "OUR" party first.

Speak for yourself.

Neither of them is mine; and when I think back, neither ever was.

 

[nittie]

Speak for yourself.

Neither of them is mine; and when I think back, neither ever was.

Its not about you. It's about the Rep party was the Black party for 100 yrs. Cain does have a point about us being sold on Dems who haven't done a damn thing for us. Check the numbers they don't lie.

 

[nittie]

I guess you're right. President Obama never accomplished anything in the so called private sector. He only attended and graduated from two Ivy League schools, became the first Black editor of the Harvard Law Review Journal. Became only one of less than 10 Black US senators in history. Of course with his resume, instead of becoming a professor at the prestigious University of Chicago, he could have made made millions, possibly billions at any Fortune 500 company he chose and then you would have elevated his financial accomplishments the same way you diminish his public service accomplishments.

I'm sure you not knowing how Cain got his start working for that evil, wasteful federal government in the Defense Department and then as CEO of the Pillsbury subsidiary, Godfathers Pizza by eliminating jobs rather than creating jobs.

Not that I am diminishing Cains accomplishments. I am proud of him as a Black Man for his success. Especially from where he came from. But just because someone makes a lot of money, does not make then eminentlyqualified to be president. Madoff made a lot of money. The criminals at Enron made a lot of money. GW had an MBA and made a lot of money in business as a business man.

GW was called President CEO and look what happened.

So you're saying he was a great student who retreated from the private sector and continued to live off the public payroll instead of getting a real job. His record could be considered the worst example of welfare fraud in history lol.

 

[QueEx]

Its not about you. It's about the Rep party was the Black party for 100 yrs.

I don't think that the republican party has been the "party of" a great number of any black people within sight or hearing of this post or who will be casting a vote in the next presidential election. So, other than being a bit "historical over-glossing", I just don't know what relevance that statement has today. But, I'm open to better understanding.

Cain does have a point about us being sold on Dems who haven't done a damn thing for us. Check the numbers they don't lie.

Cain's ONLY point is what might, at this particular time, benefit Cain. So, instead of trying to encourage black voters, seems to me, by using this "brainwashed" rhetoric, Cain is merely pandering to the republican right.

If Cain was interested in Black voters voting republican, I suspect we would see a different outreach (other than this "brainwashed" approach) to those voters, an outreach which, in all likelihood, would run counter to the republican party's right wing which would cost Cain any chance he might have at garnering the republican nomination.

But wait, lets call the head of the RNC, Michael Steele, who toyed with the idea of reaching out to black voters (and I applauded his efforts). Ooops. Sorry, can’t call Steele – didn’t Rush & Co., nail his ass for even mentioning reaching out ???


They're playing word games nittie; don't succumb to it.

 

[thoughtone]

So you're saying he was a great student who retreated from the private sector and continued to live off the public payroll instead of getting a real job. His record could be considered the worst example of welfare fraud in history lol.

Welfare fraud? Be specific, how did he live off of the public payroll and what do you defined as a "real job."? I remind you that the University of Chicago is a private school, as well as all of the Ivy league schools. Using your ridiculous logic, Rick Perry and Michele Bachmann have never worked for a private employer.

Again using your ridiculous logic Cain was on welfare while working for the federal government while working for the defense department.

 

[thoughtone]

Its not about you. It's about the Rep party was the Black party for 100 yrs. Cain does have a point about us being sold on Dems who haven't done a damn thing for us. Check the numbers they don't lie.

Black folk are not loyal to the Democrats per se. Black folk vote for their interests. Your self hate assumes that Black folk's decisions are not based on self interests. Black folk voted in overwhelming numbers for republican presidential candidates until FDR. What was the reasons? Accord to my parents, FDR gave them a better deal. Black folk voted for Truman in large numbers. Why? Because he desegregated the military. The last republican president to get major Black folk vote was Eisenhower. Why, because of his support for Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka. Even Nixon's first run totaled 1/3 of the Black vote. But since then, the republican's national presidential support for states rights which began predominately during Goldwater's presidential run in 1964 have general turned Black folk away from the GOP nationally. And from that point on, republicans figured they didn't need the Black demographic to win the presidency. Hell, Nixon's second presidential run which featured his Southern Strategy was designed to energize the segregationists and his pact with Strom Thurman in 1967 for Thurman's endorsement to win the South Carolina primary assured that the integration of schools that started under Eisenhower would be slowed down during Nixon's administration. And Regan's demonetization of poor Black folk did nothing to bring Black folk to voting for Republicans.

If Cain wants Black folk to be more open to republicans, he should speak on the de facto racism in private sector employment, the more equitable distribution of educational quality, particularity in the south were he grew up under segregation and the enforcement of equality under the law such as drug disparity sentencing to name a few.

As John Stewart said, I'm paraphrasing, "may be it's not the republican candidates, maybe it's their message".

 

[nittie]

I don't think that the republican party has been the "party of" a great number of any black people within sight or hearing of this post or who will be casting a vote in the next presidential election. So, other than being a bit "historical over-glossing", I just don't know what relevance that statement has today. But, I'm open to better understanding.



Cain's ONLY point is what might, at this particular time, benefit Cain. So, instead of trying to encourage black voters, seems to me, by using this "brainwashed" rhetoric, Cain is merely pandering to the republican right.

If Cain was interested in Black voters voting republican, I suspect we would see a different outreach (other than this "brainwashed" approach) to those voters, an outreach which, in all likelihood, would run counter to the republican party's right wing which would cost Cain any chance he might have at garnering the republican nomination.

But wait, lets call the head of the RNC, Michael Steele, who toyed with the idea of reaching out to black voters (and I applauded his efforts). Ooops. Sorry, can’t call Steele – didn’t Rush & Co., nail his ass for even mentioning reaching out ???


They're playing word games nittie; don't succumb to it.

Herm is a politican. Let's define politican and see if there is one person who ever ran for public office that doesn't fit the m.o. Having said that there is the distinct possiblity that a Black Man could be the Rep nominee. The Rep party just fired Mike Steele lol as it's Chairman and of course we have a Black Pres. We could be seeing something much bigger than party politics going on here, this could be our renaissance, our return to Eden but we cannot let ourselves be brainwashed by blind party loyalty or we could miss out on something very big..

 

[QueEx]

. . . but we cannot let ourselves be brainwashed . . .

Good advice. Take it.

You ignored everything said above.

 

[nittie]

Good advice. Take it.

You ignored everything said above.

I didn't ignore anything the opinions could be considered partisan and I'm saying that when the Rep party elects a Black Presidential nominee then there is a new day in politics. It won't happen if Black people keep voting for Dems just because they say nice things to us when they want votes.

 

[QueEx]

I didn't ignore anything the opinions could be considered partisan and I'm saying that when the Rep party elects a Black Presidential nominee then there is a new day in politics. It won't happen if Black people keep voting for Dems just because they say nice things to us when they want votes.

What part of what I said sounded partisan to you?

And, do you seriously believe that Cain was soliciting blacks to the party by insult ???

 

[nittie]

What part of what I said sounded partisan to you?

And, do you seriously believe that Cain was soliciting blacks to the party by insult ???

I don't see where what Cain said is a insult there's some truth to it so why bullshit. Maxine Waters is saying the same thing she would put a foot up Obama's ass if she didn't think Blacks would nut up. When the CBC says this cat is a punk then he's probably a punk. Then there's Cornel West, Brother Tavis lol, Bob Johnson. So why does Obama still have so much Black support when he has been a under-achiever at best. Could it be because some of us support him just because he's a Black Dem.

 

[QueEx]

I don't see where what Cain said is a insult there's some truth to it so why bullshit. Maxine Waters is saying the same thing she would put a foot up Obama's ass if she didn't think Blacks would nut up. When the CBC says this cat is a punk then he's probably a punk. Then there's Cornel West, Brother Tavis lol, Bob and he's a Black Dem.

Lets leave the president, Maxine Waters, the CBC and the rest of your NON-RESPONSIVE jibberish aside for the moment -- so that we might have a chance of staying on-point.

If Cain is sincere in wanting Black people to join the GOP, to this point, tell me what exactly has Cain and his GOP offered to Black voters in exchange for our support;

How has that offer differed from whatever the democrats have done;

Or, was this "brainwashing" approach "the call" for African Americans to support the GOP -- and -- how does that differ from "Brainwashing" ???
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Serious response only, please.

 

[nittie]

Lets leave the president, Maxine Waters, the CBC and the rest of your NON-RESPONSIVE jibberish aside for the moment -- so that we might have a chance of staying on-point.

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Serious response only, please.

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How is your childish response anymore disrespectful than Cain's. Maybe if people acted respectfully they could be treat that way.​

 

[QueEx]

I knew this would go nowhere. And it did.

Thanks.

 

[hocjo2626]

This bracka (black cracka) will soon get his wake up call. Then his ass won't be able to shut up about being black.

 

[muckraker10021]

Peeps this is not rocket science or brain surgery. The Republican party morphed into the RepubliKlan party with the election of Ronald Reagan. The RepubliKlan party is now so far ‘Reich-Wing’ in its current incarnation that neither Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon nor George H.W. Bush could get their parties presidential nomination. In fact 1964 republican nominee Barry Goldwater couldn’t get the nomination because he would be considered too liberal.
I posted the link for the movie Boogie Man- The Lee Atwater Story; watch that movie to understand how the Republicans became the RepubliKlans, so far I see only 7 of you peeps have checked it out. Look at the list below. What type of individual would vote for a party that advocates all of the positions below????? Is the other major political party a panacea of perfection?? No! Too many of them are spineless oligarch owned sycophants. But there is a major difference between todays RepubliKlan party and the Democratic party. Oligarch owned Herman Cain has it upside down. You would have to be BRAINWASHED to vote RepubliKlan especially if you are an African- American.

Civilization or Barbarism?

______________________

The RepubliKlan Party is.

• Unapologetically Racist
• Homophobic
• Anti-Sex Education
• Anti- Immigrant
• Anti- Minimum Wage
• Anti-Abortion Rights (republiklans were silent when Dr. George Tiller was murdered)
• Anti-Consumer Protection (pro-tort reform)
• Anti-Regulating The Banksters (want to repeal Dodd-Frank)
• Anti-Social Security Insurance (want to end it & send the existing money to Wall street)
• Anti-Medicare (want to send Grandma into the clutches of the "Health Care Mafia" with a coupon)
• Anti-Unemployment Insurance
• Anti-Education Standards (republiklans want to close the Dept. of Education)
• Anti-W.I.C. (republiklan congress recently cut money for Women Infants & Children program)
• Anti- Environmental Conservation Laws (want to close the EPA)
• Anti-Food Saftey Inspections (republiklan congress recently cut US food saftey budget)
• Anti-Progressive Taxation (raising the 15% tax Billionaires pay)
• Anti-Banning the Death Penalty (273 innocent people released from Death Row since 1989)
• Anti- Restoring Habeas corpus
• Anti-Separation Of Church & State (republiklans want to mandate Christian prayer in schools)
• Anti- Government Funding of Scientific Research (stem cell research)
• Anti-Feminism (woman should be submissive to men; it's in the bible)
• Anti-Affirmative Action
• Anti-Department of Labor (republiklans believe overtime pay should be abolished)
• Anti-Small Business Administration (want to abolish it)
• Anti-Substantially Increasing Foreign Aid (republiklan congress just cut food aid to Africa)
• Anti-Government Student College Tuition Grants (republiklans want to dramatically cut PELL grants)
• Anti-ANY Gun Control
• Anti- Non-Christian Religion Tolerance
• Anti- Universal Health Care
• Anti- Unemployment Insurance
• Anti- Ban Against Torture
• Anti- ANY Cut In Military Spending
• Anti- Pay Increase For US Soldiers
• Anti- Increase in Veterans Benefits (republiklans want to convert military pensions into 401K's)
• Anti- Equalizing Penalty for Crack/ Powder Cocaine Conviction

A Day in the Life of Joe RepubliKlan


Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air.

He walks on the government-provided sidewalk to subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a
contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It is noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe also forgets that in addition to his federally subsidized
student loans, he attended a state funded university. Joe also forgets that his World War 2 veteran father got his Pharmacology Degree only because of the GI Bill that the Republicans voted against.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards to go along with the tax-payer funded roads.

He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans.

The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

 

[thoughtone]

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[nittie]

Blacks can be the Presidential nominee of both parties. We have to grab the opportunity while it's there. It's not about politics it is about a changing social and status quo in the world. Cain can't come out and say that neither can Obama and I can't go into here either but for those who can think outside the box this is big. BTW I expect Cain to implode when the reality and magnitude of the moment hits him lol like Farrakhan did after the Million Man March lol.

 

[thoughtone]

Blacks can be the Presidential nominee of both parties. We have to grab the opportunity while it's there. It's not about politics it is about a changing social and status quo in the world. Cain can't come out and say that neither can Obama and I can't go into here either but for those who can think outside the box this is big. BTW I expect Cain to implode when the reality and magnitude of the moment hits him lol like Farrakhan did after the Million Man March lol.

Farrakhan did after the Million Man March

I was there, and Black Men weren't about to vote for Bob Dole!

 

[nittie]

I was there, and Black Men weren't about to vote for Bob Dole!

My point is not about the election. The accomplishment elevated Farrakhan to a new level he could have been a world leader after the march. He responded by going into seculsion, visiting the Motherland until the hype died down lol he choked. Cain will probably do the same I don't think he's ready for the pressures of the office. It might sound like I'm down on Obama but I'm not it took heart for him to do what he's done he's a great man.

 

[QueEx]

My point is not about the election. The accomplishment elevated Farrakhan to a new level he could have been a world leader after the march. He responded by going into seculsion, visiting the Motherland until the hype died down lol he choked. Cain will probably do the same I don't think he's ready for the pressures of the office. It might sound like I'm down on Obama but I'm not it took heart for him to do what he's done he's a great man.

And <s>you're</s> <u>that's</u> delusional.

 

[Jim_Browski]

And <s>you're</s> <u>that's</u> delusional.

I haven't been in here to contribute in a while...so here you go: