Mayweather vs. Ortiz: Sucker punch or fair play? Merchant Blasted! [MERGED]

Foul play by Floyd, or should Victor have been protecting himself?

  • Sucker punch

    Votes: 174 24.9%
  • Fair play

    Votes: 526 75.1%

  • Total voters
    700
Maybe if he had fought someone (Pac) who has had more than ONE fight at welterweight (another blown up fighter) folks would give him the respect HE thinks he deserves. People root for his opponents because they're little people. :lol:
Floyd fought at lower weight classes and moved up.

So other fighters did the same.

Also, Ortiz is the bigger fighter and outweighed Mayweather.

If Floyd beats PAC, guaranteed you'll toss out the 'smaller fighter' card
 
Ortiz and the ref got caught slippin. it was still legal so......
:dance::dance::dance:

karma came quick as hell for Ortiz after that headbutt.
 


Does kinda look like flyod stepped on his foot :37 seconds in.

Wonder if those are grounds for a NC

Headbutted him then punched him afterwards while the ref was breaking it up
 
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Does kinda look like flyod stepped on his foot :37 seconds in.

Wonder if those are grounds for a NC

Headbutted him then punched him afterwards while the ref was breaking it up

He never stepped on his foot, wtf are you watching?

Damn cats try to find any reason to go against floyd.
 
He never stepped on his foot, wtf are you watching?

Damn cats try to find any reason to go against floyd.

And niggas will read what ever they want to read. Does kinda look....does kinda look. Forget the fact that i defended flyod for what the last 2 pages and said it was fair. Then i acknowledge that it appears that he stepped on ortiz left foot with his right foot and now i'm going against him?

Ya'll niggas tickle me.
 
The ref fucked up after the point was takin from Ortiz he should sent Ortiz back to his corner and Floyd was already in his corner Ortiz walk up to Floyd and started hugging Floyd to apologize by that time Cortez should have pulled Ortiz away from Floyd and told him go back to your corner. Then Cortez was supposed to be in the center of the ring with both boxers in their corners bell rings and the Cortez tells the fighters let's go touch up and box like the beginning of every round during a boxing match. The ref fucked up
 
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PROTECT YASELF AT ALL TIMES!!!
 


Does kinda look like flyod stepped on his foot :37 seconds in.

Wonder if those are grounds for a NC

Headbutted him then punched him afterwards while the ref was breaking it up

There was no stepping on of foot in that clip, g. And those announcers are buggin'. The ref clearly told them to box at the 30 second mark. Ortiz is a moron for not protecting himself.
 
Didnt see Flyod have complete control of the fight until the third round when he had control of the tempo and was baiting ortiz into openings.....other then that i dont see how anyone could have gave round 1 to flyod. Usually the close ones go to the champ.

Round 2...i'd say flyod won all of about 30 seconds of that round and round 3 it was getting ugly and embarassing, not even sure he punched flyod clean let alone barely in that 3rd
 
Didnt see Flyod have complete control of the fight until the third round when he had control of the tempo and was baiting ortiz into openings.....

Floyd easily won every round. None of those rounds were close. FLoyd landed more punches, was the aggressor, and controlled the pace. Ortiz was eating straight rights and swinging at air. Even in that flurry in round 4 when it looked like he did something, on slow motion you could see that he didnt land anything...and that is when the wild headbutt came.
 
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You dont punch significantly harder the more and more you get older and move up out of your natural weight. Evander didn't do it, spinks got a lil weaker moving up, oscar didn't do it....no one. But he gets stronger and hits harder. That's suspicion right there. Enough suspicion to make a valid claim about cheating...also throwing 1000 punches in a fight and looking like you can fight another guy right after wards and becoming a over night sensation.

People that have got caught cheating rarely knockout there opponent...hint.




full fight

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:smh: at the 25:39 mark he threw a head but....then the blanant one after the first one. :smh:
 
And niggas will read what ever they want to read. Does kinda look....does kinda look. Forget the fact that i defended flyod for what the last 2 pages and said it was fair. Then i acknowledge that it appears that he stepped on ortiz left foot with his right foot and now i'm going against him?

Ya'll niggas tickle me.
Nigga just admit you were wrong.
 
Floyd easily won every round. None of those rounds were close. FLoyd landed more punches, was the aggressor, and controlled the pace. Ortiz was eating straight rights and swinging at air. Even in that flurry in round 4 when it looked like he did something, on slow motion you could see that he didnt land anything...and that is when the wild headbutt came.

i would love to see compubox stats for round 1. I know most judges are in favor or the one that counters more and works on the jab more, but i'll watch round 1 again...
 
If yo truly watched the fight you would see that right Hand of floyd was beatin him like my pops did me as a child.

If you make a mistake you will have to pay.:lol:
 
I'm so sick of the test bullshit. If you're the greatest, you're the greatest, fight whoever. You lose, you lose. Plain and simple.
 
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How is May running when Pac refuses to take the test?



since when does the burden of proof lie on the accused? floyd is the one making accusations. prove it. find a failed test or someone who sold to pacquiao then you have grounds to ask for increased testing. outside of that, coupled with the fact that he's making still unproven accusations, pacquiao doesn't have to do shyt to make mayweather feel better outside of nevada state athletic commission rules
 
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You dont punch significantly harder the more and more you get older and move up out of your natural weight. Evander didn't do it, spinks got a lil weaker moving up, oscar didn't do it....no one. But he gets stronger and hits harder. That's suspicion right there. Enough suspicion to make a valid claim about cheating...also throwing 1000 punches in a fight and looking like you can fight another guy right after wards and becoming a over night sensation.

People that have got caught cheating rarely knockout there opponent...hint.




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My bad it's 30:00 minute mark he gave him a two piece combo with his head. :lol:
 
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since when does the burden of proof lie on the accused? floyd is the one making accusations. prove it. find a failed test or someone who sold to pacquiao then you have grounds to ask for increased testing. outside of that, coupled with the fact that he's making still unproven accusations, pacquiao doesn't have to do shyt to make mayweather feel better outside of nevada state athletic commission rules

burden of proof can change several times to accused to accuser.

EX: rape victim (aka accuser) says such and such raped me at this location.

Accused is the rapist: i wasnt there she just wants my money(makes a counter claim)

They are both accusers, one accusation says she's a golddigger, other says he's a rapist.

Just like flyod and pacman. One is accusing the other of jucing the other accusng the other of ducking
 
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since when does the burden of proof lie on the accused? floyd is the one making accusations. prove it. find a failed test or someone who sold to pacquiao then you have grounds to ask for increased testing. outside of that, coupled with the fact that he's making still unproven accusations, pacquiao doesn't have to do shyt to make mayweather feel better outside of nevada state athletic commission rules

Your boy Pacman would have more credibility if he didn't get caught in a lie several times about how he don't like needles and how he don't draw blood too close to fight time. Just imagine if he was on trial and pulled some shit like that...

All that shit does is raise doubts about the accused and builds on the narrative that this guy seem like he's got something to hide. If you're the best, then take the test. Floyd's not asking Pacman to do something he's not willing to do himself.
 
peace



Does kinda look like flyod stepped on his foot :37 seconds in.

Wonder if those are grounds for a NC

Headbutted him then punched him afterwards while the ref was breaking it up


Haven't read ALL these fucking pages but what I CLEARLY see watching this clip is how the young Ortiz lost his head temporarily from wearing all them precise blows from the round b4& leading up to that.

When I say "Lost his head" its because you clearly see him try & hug then peck Floyd on the cheek in some "Yo, My Bad" type shit RIGHT AFTER IT HAPPENNED admittingly apologyzing for losing his head in the frustration of missing all them punches, trying to get some type of points trying to redeem eating all them punches from the round b4. {See 0:14}

Only he would know this & would damn sure not admit it but maybe he was trying to bloody that mouth to throw off Floyd from continuing the barrage of blows.

One hug/embrace was enough if any. Its NOT all good or in fair play when u headbut me, fucka;
The last kat who got away with TWO of them shits got a chunk of his ear bitten off, GTFOHWTBS Fams!:happymad::smh::D

What he did was stupid, careless, unprofessional & just more evidence of how he was not mentally prepared, losing his head plus not keeping his hands up.

They touched gloves enough but the ref wasnt truly focused on the action in the ring even though he aint stop shit so its all legal as far as I see.

It may not have been the prettiest nor most classiest move, but it was legal & shit got street once kat came bull rushing with the domepiece as his only outlet to draw blood from that man.

Man, Sit yo ass on that ground where u belong.

Not to mention everything about Floyd's body language said he wanted to start fighting. Is he really supposed to wait until Ortiz is ready after the ref tells them to fight? Ortiz wasn't ready to go, too bad.

Ortiz landed, 2, maybe 3 good shots compared to Mayweather's dozen or so.

I think people get fooled into thinking the fight would change because a fighter lands a decent shot on Floyd and then misses all the others. Ortiz was clearly frustrated he couldn't hit Floyd.


The ref fucked up after the point was takin from Ortiz he should sent Ortiz back to his corner and Floyd was already in his corner Ortiz walk up to Floyd and started hugging Floyd to apologize by that time Cortez should have pulled Ortiz away from Floyd and told him go back to your corner. Then Cortez was supposed to be in the center of the ring with both boxers in their corners bell rings and the Cortez tells the fighters let's go touch up and box like the beginning of every round during a boxing match. The ref fucked up



I've always hated Larry Merchant :angry::angry::angry:

That old jew, cock suck'in bastard merchant should be fired...TONIGHT!!!!

Old bastard has allowed his personal opinions cloud his judgement to the point he 's not even away what shit spewed out of his shithole unless u play it back for him; even then, he's not man enough to admit his wrong & obvious bias;

he gives minimal credit where due then shits on that small bit of credit with slick side jabs injecting his own brand of bullshit; 50, 60 yrs ago, sheit, that fuck could be 17-22 yrs old & STILL get his ass handed to him on principle.
HBO needs to take a good look @ this & let MaxKellermen take that spot.
agreed.......not very classy cuz dude obviously wasn't even paying attention, but he broke the cardinal rule of boxing, "Always keep your guard up".........Floyd could see through his peripheral when the ref gave the "go ahead fight" signal.......so he jumped on it.......


I say, Good on him for being totally aware of the situation....:cool:

that wasnt no cheap shot that was eye for an eye the nigga tried to leap and headbutt the man so he gets knocked the fucked out
If yo truly watched the fight you would see that right Hand of floyd was beatin him like my pops did me as a child.

If you make a mistake you will have to pay.:lol:
:lol:

Where's the HBO feed copy, y'all?
I wanna hear line for line the slick shit grandpops ass was injecting during this just for reference.


peace
 
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Your boy Pacman would have more credibility if he didn't get caught in a lie several times about how he don't like needles and how he don't draw blood too close to fight time. Just imagine if he was on trial and pulled some shit like that...

All that shit does is raise doubts about the accused and builds on the narrative that this guy seem like he's got something to hide. If you're the best, then take the test. Floyd's not asking Pacman to do something he's not willing to do himself.


this much i will agree with. if you gonna say no, just say no. all the waffling is not a good look. he doesn't owe floyd any special accomodations though. sugar shane & victor ortiz have to do that blood test shyt cause floyd holds all the cards with them. floyd needs pacquiao as much as pacquiao needs him
 
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Your boy Pacman would have more credibility if he didn't get caught in a lie several times about how he don't like needles and how he don't draw blood too close to fight time. Just imagine if he was on trial and pulled some shit like that...

All that shit does is raise doubts about the accused and builds on the narrative that this guy seem like he's got something to hide. If you're the best, then take the test. Floyd's not asking Pacman to do something he's not willing to do himself.

:yes:
 
Fair play : Yes
Bitch Move : Yes


Everything was legal but it does look like a bitch move. However you do have to protect yourself at all times.

I do think its a bitch move however....but did something within the rules of boxing.
 
Fair play : Yes
Bitch Move : Yes


Everything was legal but it does look like a bitch move. However you do have to protect yourself at all times.

I do think its a bitch move however....but did something within the rules of boxing.
naw fam it cannot be fairplay and a bitch move at the same time, the ref said fight you better have your gloves up
 
I'm so sick of the test bullshit. If you're the greatest, you're the greatest, fight whoever. You lose, you lose. Plain and simple.

same logic that is used to soak up that conservative bullshit. No matter the advantages someone may have everyone is supposed to shut up and the play the game. Flip the script... if you are clean and are willing to sue over the accusation that you are cheating why didn't just take the test to begin with...

The summary for niggas talking out of their asses...

Floyd called Pac out and the narrative that many people went with is that he is ducking Mosley ignoring that Floyd called Shane out in his prime and Shane had a tooth ache up until Floyd was the money man in boxing.

Both fighters made demands that aren't normal in most professional fights, but Floyd agreed to Manny's demand and Manny wanted Floyd to compromise.

Floyd brought compromises to the table, Manny lied several times about why those compromises couldn't work and then MANNY broke off negotiations... not Floyd.

If you have a brain and are blaming Floyd than you are biased. Only other reason to blame Floyd is that you are stupid. Some of you are both.
 
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I started to read through the post but I changed my mind.

I think a saw what I was thinking on the second or third page.

It was a fair sucker punch. This nigga has no class.
 
If you think this is controversial wait til the May-Pac fight...you know they gonna set that shit up for 2-3 fights :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
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