Doubling Down on Stupid!!

[Gunner]

Pass this bill??? What's in the damn bill? Over 400 billion

He said companies get tax cuts if they have at least 50 employees!!!!!
What does building shit have to do with job growth. Those are temporary jobs!!!
(Shovel ready).

50 employees is the threshold for mandated Obamacare. If the company does not offer insurance for the employees with 51 or more employees, they are taxed for the government providing Obamacare!!!! This deterred companies expanding by adding manpower and offering healthcare.

JESUS CHRIST when will someone interrupt this man and set the record straight???
WTF!!!!

When will these guys get the fact that the more money that you take from these superich, the more jobs they will cut. These people are gonna get thier money one way or another. If i'm a super rich business owner and you rasie my taxes, well let me see how many people we can do without. Its called streamlining. So go ahead and tax the rich even more and see how they respond. I know Obama and his people aren't that fricking stupid.

 

[SPECTRE1]

Government Debt increases the exchange rate making American goods expensive plus they pick up the interest. These countries have to buy the American dollar creating demand, not from buy something that was made here.

Other countries are loaning us money to keep superior USA goods unaffordable and out of their country. Not because you are a good credit risk...Plus they gain influence on trade policies and the government, war policy. and other matters.

The end result is you sitting at home unemployed, the federal deficit is a bad idea.

American Job Act is superior to ARRA because there is no borrowed money.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Pass this bill??? What's in the damn bill? Over 400 billion

He said companies get tax cuts if they have at least 50 employees!!!!!
What does building shit have to do with job growth. Those are temporary jobs!!!(Shovel ready).

Going by that meaningless metric, every construction job is a temporary job so we shouldn't build anything unless it goes on forever.

50 employees is the threshold for mandated Obamacare. If the company does not offer insurance for the employees with 51 or more employees, they are taxed for the government providing Obamacare!!!! This deterred companies expanding by adding manpower and offering healthcare.

JESUS CHRIST when will someone interrupt this man and set the record straight???
WTF!!!!

When will these guys get the fact that the more money that you take from these superich, the more jobs they will cut. These people are gonna get thier money one way or another. If i'm a super rich business owner and you rasie my taxes, well let me see how many people we can do without. Its called streamlining. So go ahead and tax the rich even more and see how they respond. I know Obama and his people aren't that fricking stupid.

They do that now with the tax cuts in effect so your answer is to do nothing.
Somebody should have interrupted you while you were typing this garbage.

 

[Gunner]

Going by that meaningless metric, every construction job is a temporary job so we shouldn't build anything unless it goes on forever.



They do that now with the tax cuts in effect so your answer is to do nothing.
Somebody should have interrupted you while you were typing this garbage.

Question: Can a temporary job for 6-8 months pay a mortgage. So a trillion dollar stimulus didn't work so you want us to lend you more? Dave send me a grand? I promise I will flip it and pay you back next week. Please?

 

[Gunner]

Government Debt increases the exchange rate making American goods expensive plus they pick up the interest. These countries have to buy the American dollar creating demand, not from buy something that was made here.

Other countries are loaning us money to keep superior USA goods unaffordable and out of their country. Not because you are a good credit risk...Plus they gain influence on trade policies and the government, war policy. and other matters.

The end result is you sitting at home unemployed, the federal deficit is a bad idea.

American Job Act is superior to ARRA because there is no borrowed money.

Honestly I liked his tone. Yet, you are asking for more money when there was no substantial ROI. All I could hear was Pass this bill. It's like signing an agreement with a loan shark.

 

[nittie]

Don't want to make this a racial issue but like everything else in this country it is. He cannot say that conservative Whites cannot adapt to change. He cannot say low and middle income Whites vote against their interest. He cannot say Blacks and Browns crab each other so our communities don't grow and he cannot say rich White people have very little respect for workers and poor people. All this means we don't have a common good anymore and the future looks pretty bad.

 

[GET YOU HOT]

PASS THE BILL, for the umteenth time, before you "republicans" drive this country into the ground, permanently...

 

[hsm2448]

obama's problem is that because he was known for caving so early on in his presidency, every time stimulus is discussed the plan is so heavily tilted towards business tax cuts that dont actually provide any stimulative benefit that not enough is put into the kind of spending that does lead to more permanent employment.

until you create greater demand, everything is temporary.

the taxing the rich part has nothing to do with employment. if you think that the marginal difference in the tax rates is what is determining business' outlook on hiring, you are a moron.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Question: Can a temporary job for 6-8 months pay a mortgage. So a trillion dollar stimulus didn't work so you want us to lend you more? Dave send me a grand? I promise I will flip it and pay you back next week. Please?

Yes, for 6-8 months. You know you only pay mortgage once a month,right?
As I said, going by your meaningless, ill-though out metric, all construction jobs are temporary.
You know your philosophy is morally and logically bankrupt when you're against infrastructure spending because it's not eternal.

 

[nittie]

Really he should be talking about nationalizing banks, insurance companies and businesses that get tax breaks until they start spending that money they are sitting on and hiring people. He's allowed that vigilante, too big to fail mentality among the elites to continue.

 

[nittie]

Really he should be talking about nationalizing banks, insurance companies and businesses that get tax breaks until they start spending that money they are sitting on and hiring people. He's allowed that vigilante, too big to fail mentality among the elites to continue.

Obama deserves credit for showing us how a Central Authority is essential. That does not mean the Central Authority has to be U.S govt think about it. The homies in the Middle East and Latin America could be the new model for democracy.

 

[Lamarr]

Really he should be talking about nationalizing banks, insurance companies and businesses that get tax breaks until they start spending that money they are sitting on and hiring people. He's allowed that vigilante, too big to fail mentality among the elites to continue.

who do you think Pres Obama works for?

 

[Lamarr]

Obama deserves credit for showing us how a Central Authority is essential.

Actually, we need just the opposite. We have a "Central Bank" called the Federal reserve that has enabled the theft from the middle class over the last 30 years. We need competing currencies so we can really see how much value the dollar has, thus we need decentralization.

Obama and the fed are acting contrary to what the markets & people desire. Every move they make is to keep prices high instead of allowing the market to rebalance the marketplace. They are doing everything in their power to keep people in debt, but the market will ultimately win. Buy Gold 7 Silver bruh!

Betting against the fiscal sanity of the govt is the most competent decision a person can make.

 

[nittie]

Actually, we need just the opposite. We have a "Central Bank" called the Federal reserve that has enabled the theft from the middle class over the last 30 years. We need competing currencies so we can really see how much value the dollar has, thus we need decentralization.

Obama and the fed are acting contrary to what the markets & people desire. Every move they make is to keep prices high instead of allowing the market to rebalance the marketplace. They are doing everything in their power to keep people in debt, but the market will ultimately win. Buy Gold 7 Silver bruh!

Betting against the fiscal sanity of the govt is the most competent decision a person can make.

Gas shouldn't be over three dollars and other commodities are over-priced. Like I said it's vigilante, too big to fail, Darwinian Capitialism.

 

[Lamarr]

Gas shouldn't be over three dollars and other commodities are over-priced. Like I said it's vigilante, too big to fail, Darwinian Capitialism.

1) Under Ron Paul's plan, gas would be a dime! Care to refute it?

2) Too Big To Fail is closer to facism, not Capitalism! Capitalism thrives off of failure because it creates a more competitive marketplace. Obama will not allow GE, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, New York Times, Bank of America to fail...........cause those are the people who put him in office!

Once again, when this money is allocated, it will not help the people it is intended to help.....It will only assist the institution or company providing the service. Then, expect another rise in food & energy prices as those costs adjust to the newly created money. This shit is becoming soooooo predictable

 

[Race Harley]

The whole argument here is moot. You Neo-Republicans crying about how President Obama's grinding the US into the ground didn't have shit to say while President Bush and his party kept digging a big hole. Pro-Obama backers can't well be too happy as the President keeps pussy-footing around with the GOP. Something's going to break one way or another within the next several months.

 

[Lamarr]

The whole argument here is moot. You Neo-Republicans crying about how President Obama's grinding the US into the ground didn't have shit to say while President Bush and his party kept digging a big hole. Pro-Obama backers can't well be too happy as the President keeps pussy-footing around with the GOP. Something's going to break one way or another within the next several months.

I can't speak for others, Bush doubled the size of govt. (dude wasn't no conservative) The National debt went from $5 Trillion to a little over $9 Trillion in 8 years. Same Keynesian practices! Over the Last 10 Years, the Govt Has Tried 16 Forms of Stimulus

In approx 3 years of Pres Obamas term, the National Debt has went from $9 Trillion to a little over $14.3 Trill. When I express myself, I'd like to see the Pres stop diggin the money hole. When you're in a hole, the first thing you do is stop diggin.