Weebay v. Chris... Who was the ....

[dirtyd]

Chris was more tactical and more efficient. He was killing people, but the police didn't want to investigate at first because there were no bodies because he was leaving them to decompose in empty vacants.

And Weebay never came close to murking Omar and Omar set him up and nearly killed him. I don't think Chris would get caught slipping like Weebay.

You do know that because of him getting all emotional during Bugs dad beating he left behind evidence(DNA) that led to his capture right? My pick is for Bey simply because of how he acted during his arrest


He was willing to confess to more murders for another pit beef sandwich Chris was more strategic but as proof by his arrest wasn't bulletproof, Bey got arrested and was pissed because they fucked up his ride Snoop was the most overrated one imo because she only killed 1 person and just talked a lot of shit

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Growazz with the facts. It's hard to dispute facts.

Bodycount for Roland "Wee-Bey" Brice:
+ Orlando (Strip Club Owner turned informant)
+ Brandon (Omar's lightskinned lover & partner in crime)
+ Dierdre Kresson (Avon's former girlfriend who threatened to snitch on him)
+ Callously disposed of the body of the Stripper who Overdosed at Stinkum's party.
+ Wintell "Little Man" Royce (Killed after botched shooting of Detective Shakima Greggs)
+ Nakeesha Lyles (Female Security Guard who was a witness in D'angelo's trial. Killed after he was acquitted)
+ Plus he took credit for 6 additional Homicides. (After getting arrested in Philly)
+ Ladonte (Random Baltimore drug dealer who is Officer Tilghman's Cousin. In prison, when he confesses, Avon says: "I need a scorecard to keep up with your lethal ass")
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SUB TOTAL = 6 confirmed Kills. 6 speculated kills. 1 assist.
GRAND TOTAL = 13 Homicides (that we know of. Give or take a few. )


Bodycount for Chris Partlow:
+ Prop Joe
+ "Old Face" Andre
+ Random NY Drug Dealer (When Chris told Snoop: "Don't wear no dead man's hat")
+ Random NY Drug Dealer (At night, Chris asks him: "Who Young Leek Be?")
+ Michael's stepdad (the child molester)
+ Lex (Shot Fruit in the head outside the nightclub, over a chic. Was set-up by "Little Kevin".)
+ "Little Kevin" (Actually killed by Monk. But it counts as an assist.)
+ The Drugstore Security Guard who... 'thought it was one way"
+ Junebug's Family (3 adults are killed when a small child runs out the back door & passes Michael)
+ Hungry Man (Cheese betrays Prop Joe. In exchange, Chris & Snoop repay him by serving up Hungry Man)
+ Butchie & one of his goons (The blind man. Omar's Bank. And one of his goons get shot at his bar.)
+ Donnie (One of Omar's goons he met in prison. Killed in the shootout, when Omar jumped off the balcony)
+ Bodie (Actually Killed by O-dog. But prolly would've been shot by Chris or Snoop anyway. )
+ 18 additional bodies found in the vacants by Detective Freamon. (In Total, he found 22 bodies, but I subtracted the 2 NY Drug dealers, Old Face Andre, and the Drug store security guard mentioned above)
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SUB TOTAL = 13 confirmed Kills. 19 speculated kills. 3 assists.
GRAND TOTAL = 35 Homicides (that we know of. Give or take a few. )

 

[alexw]

Growazz with the facts. It's hard to dispute facts.

facts?

that pure speculation

plus who knows if snoop caught some of those bodies...she was eager to kill before she even caught her first body on that motorcycle

dude even put Bodie in there...Chris didnt shoot him

yall carry on....this shit is outrageous

yall comparing one year of true power to decades of the barksdales

does that really make sense

wee bey doesnt become the number 1 soldier with that amount of bodies, man

facts

 

[grownazzblakman]

Growazz with the facts. It's hard to dispute facts.

Oh yeah.. I forgot one...

Chris also killed that 'delivery woman'... when he robbed Old Face Andre's store, and made him blame Omar for it.

 

[grownazzblakman]

facts?

that pure speculation

plus who knows if snoop caught some of those bodies...she was eager to kill before she even caught her first body on that motorcycle

dude even put Bodie in there...Chris didnt shoot him

yall carry on....this shit is outrageous

yall comparing one year of true power to decades of the barksdales

does that really make sense

wee bey doesnt become the number 1 soldier with that amount of bodies, man

facts

I counted Bodie as 'an assist'.
Because they were gunning him down.
But O-dog was the one who took him out.

Think about it...
Hypothetically speaking... if you and 2 of your homies go shoot up a nightclub...
(But your homie actually hits someone, while you keep missing)

all of you still get 'charged with the same crime' by the cops, no?

just saying.

Bodie, Little Kevin and Hungry Man were my 3 assists for Chris.

Even with the higher bodycount.... I agree with you.
To me, Wee-bey was a bigger threat than Chris.

Mainly because I don't see Chris taking 'additional charges' like Wee-Bey did, after getting caught.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

I counted Bodie as 'an assist'.
Because they were gunning him down.
But O-dog was the one who took him out.

Think about it...
Hypothetically speaking... if you and 2 of your homies go shoot up a nightclub...
(But your homie actually hits someone, while you keep missing)

all of you still get 'charged with the same crime' by the cops, no?

just saying.

Bodie, Little Kevin and Hungry Man were my 3 assists for Chris.

Nah fuck that shit.Its either he killed him or didn't.It was a lot of reaching on some of the other kills you gave him credit for that he didn't do.

 

[DaAssWatcher]

And Grown forgot about Avons soldier at tha carryout when Chris blew his brains out with tha shooty and hit Avon in tha shoulder.

 

[grownazzblakman]

Nah fuck that shit.Its either he killed him or didn't.It was a lot of reaching on some of the other kills you gave him credit for that he didn't do.

- Bodie was an assist because they was all shooting at him. But somebody else got him.

- Little Kevin was an assist because they put him in Chris' vehicle... and he was never seen again.

- Hungry Man was an assist because Chris & Snoop personally delivered him to Cheese.

The only other possible 'reach' is speculation about who actually put all the bodies in the vacants.

But if you follow the story logic.... Chris & Snoop are the only ones EVER seen dropping people off in the vacants. Nobody else (from Marlo's crew) is ever seen up in, or anywhere near a vacant.

So my guess is that Chris & Snoop put in all that work.
Because there is nothing else to contradict it.

As for ALL the rest I mentioned.... Chris is seen ONSCREEN pushing wigs back.

 

[grownazzblakman]

And Grown forgot about Avons soldier at tha carryout when Chris blew his brains out with tha shooty and hit Avon in tha shoulder.

Agreed. You right about that. I forgot that one.
(Hey, that's why I said... Give or take a few )

 

[Duffle_Bag]

You do know that because of him getting all emotional during Bugs dad beating he left behind evidence(DNA) that led to his capture right? My pick is for Bey simply because of how he acted during his arrest


He was willing to confess to more murders for another pit beef sandwich Chris was more strategic but as proof by his arrest wasn't bulletproof, Bey got arrested and was pissed because they fucked up his ride Snoop was the most overrated one imo because she only killed 1 person and just talked a lot of shit

I was talking about slipping in terms of walking into a trap, not losing control during the course of a murder.

 

[Complex]

I can't call it

I think it would be about a tie

It's aspects about both that stood out.

Bay tha only nigga on that show that had Omar curled like a bitch after he filled him with some hot ones.

Omar almost blow Bays leg off but tha next time they showed him he was patched up limping but was back to work like it was nothing.

Chris had 5 niggaz with him and had Omar trapped but they couldn't hit him not once.

Bonus points

String and Avon was not equal. They was childhood friends but Avon's word was final. Now string ran shit when Avon wasn't there but let's not forget it was Avon who told the nigga no on the co-op, he repeatedly told stringer that those was HIS corners. When string gave Slim a direct order Avon said fuck no. String told Avon they got to protect him from all the bullshit. I'm not saying string wasn't a shadow boss in the background but please don't say he was equal with Avon. He was not. He was more like Avons counselor than his equal. Chris was not all muscle. That is not what I saw on the show.

Chris was WeeBay and Stringer combined in to one.

 

[dirtyd]

I was talking about slipping in terms of walking into a trap, not losing control during the course of a murder.

The latter is much worse because if it's a trap then you don't expect it, but he purposely beat that man to death and stupidly left behind DNA evidence. Wee Bey only got caught because D'angelo snitched to the cops on where he was hiding out.

 

[Madrox]

He was willing to confess to more murders for another pit beef sandwich

 

[cranrab]

Even with the higher bodycount..

body count shouldn't even be a primary (maybe not even secondary) consideration when weighing wee bey brice v. chris partlow. why? because all the green lights weren't THEIR consideration. those were mainly the decisions of someone else.

what should be primarily considered is the TACTICAL EXECUTION of those hits.

 

[Duffle_Bag]

The latter is much worse because if it's a trap then you don't expect it, but he purposely beat that man to death and stupidly left behind DNA evidence. Wee Bey only got caught because D'angelo snitched to the cops on where he was hiding out.

I gotta disagree with this point because Chris gave insight into the planning process when him, Snoop and Michael killed that family and Michael let the lil' kid live. Chris seemed like he planned shit out so that there wouldn't be any surprises. Chris fucked and lost control when he killed Mike's stepdad, but Wee Bey also botched the strip club owner hit and the hit where Stinkum got killed by Omar.

 

[cranrab]

Wee Bey also botched the strip club owner hit

how?

they didn't have an eyeball witness or a weapon linking wee bey. they had the hoodie, but what element of the crime did wee bey "botch"?

the fuck up on that hit was all stringer.

 

[Pootypoot]

Here we are, years later discussing the aspects of this show. This might be the best drama to ever hit television. Not one weak season, and all the characters are very memorable. This was a fucking great show.

 

[Ashy Larry]

I have to go with Chris. He obviously had some type of military training or background and killing was just a job and nothing personal for him. On several occasions in Season 4, dudes was asking Chris not kill them and he was like " don't fret boss, you know I keep it quick and clean". That's was Chris' way of saying I'm not on no torture shit, it won't take long, but you gotta go, it's just business. Very few if any fuck ups by Chris with the exception of failing to get Omar.

Ooh! that one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irWqo9_N4kQ


@Chris the "Zombie Master"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck1bL-55ziQ

 

[Mr. Met]

Chris was scarier.

Quiet and unassuming where Weebay was more in your face.

Plus where Weebay was a mere soldier, Chris was like Marlo's Tom Hagen.

 

[34real]

Bay tha only nigga on that show that had Omar curled like a bitch after he filled him with some hot ones.

Don't forget the muslim guy who also had the drop on Omar...I wonder how he tracked him down? hhhhmmmm,maybe,Avon?

 

[grownazzblakman]

Don't forget the muslim guy who also had the drop on Omar...I wonder how he tracked him down? hhhhmmmm,maybe,Avon?

Brother Mouzone tracked Omar down by 'staking out' several gay bars in Baltimore, so he could eventually kidnap, then beat the info out of Omar's boyfriend (Dante).

Dante was the dude who accidentally shot that chic (Tosha) during a botched Barksdale Stash-house robbery. (It is speculated that Omar eventually dropped Dante for snitching to Brother Mouzone about his whereabouts. That's why he had that new Spanish dude in the next season.)

 

[agentnupe]

bodycount for roland "wee-bey" brice:
+ orlando (strip club owner turned informant)
+ brandon (omar's lightskinned lover & partner in crime)
+ dierdre kresson (avon's former girlfriend who threatened to snitch on him)
+ callously disposed of the body of the stripper who overdosed at stinkum's party.
+ wintell "little man" royce (killed after botched shooting of detective shakima greggs)
+ nakeesha lyles (female security guard who was a witness in d'angelo's trial. Killed after he was acquitted)
+ plus he took credit for 6 additional homicides. (after getting arrested in philly)
+ ladonte (random baltimore drug dealer who is officer tilghman's cousin. In prison, when he confesses, avon says: "i need a scorecard to keep up with your lethal ass")
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sub total = 6 confirmed kills + 6 speculated kills + 1 assist.
Grand total = 13 homicides (that we know of. Give or take a few. )


bodycount for chris partlow:
+ prop joe
+ "old face" andre
+ random ny drug dealer (when chris told snoop: "don't wear no dead man's hat")
+ random ny drug dealer (at night, chris asks him: "who young leek be?" before shooting him)
+ michael's stepdad (the child molester)
+ lex (shot fruit in the head outside a nightclub, over an unfaithful chic. Was set-up by "little kevin".)
+ "little kevin" (actually killed by monk. But it counts as an assist.)
+ the drugstore security guard who... 'thought it was one way"
+ junebug's family (3 adults are killed when a small child runs out the back door & passes michael)
+ hungry man (cheese betrays prop joe. In exchange, chris & snoop repay him by serving up hungry man)
+ butchie & one of his goons (the blind man. Omar's bank. And one of his goons get shot at his bar.)
+ donnie (one of omar's goons he met in prison. Killed in the shootout, when omar jumped off the balcony)
+ bodie (actually killed by o-dog. But prolly would've been shot by chris or snoop anyway. )
+ 18 additional bodies found in the vacants by detective freamon. (in total, he found 22 bodies, but i subtracted the 2 ny drug dealers, old face andre, and the drug store security guard mentioned above)
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sub total = 13 confirmed kills + 19 speculated kills + 3 assists.
Grand total = 35 homicides (that we know of. Give or take a few. )

props on the scorecard

 

[Duffle_Bag]

how?

they didn't have an eyeball witness or a weapon linking wee bey. they had the hoodie, but what element of the crime did wee bey "botch"?

the fuck up on that hit was all stringer.

The fuck up on the hit was the fact that they ended up shooting an undercover officer which brought down a ton of heat on the organization. I remember Wee Bey saying something along the lines of if they knew that the strip club owner was not alone, they would have aborted the mission. I wouldn't say that the fuck up was all on Wee Bey, but he gets a share of the blame for not having better coordination.

And I'm surprised no one mentioned that Chris put a bullet in Avon in season 3.

 

[TheFuser]

I think the problem is, we kinda saw how Marlo came into to power and what he had to do to keep it, therefore we saw Chris and Snoop killing niggas. We have no idea how many bodies Weebay racked when taking and keeping those towers. I always wished the writers would do full episode prequels to The Wire to see the rise of Avon and Stringer, taking the towers etc.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

I guess I have to go with Chris just because of the fear factor and how controlled he was.

Like with Wee bay you'd be more at ease cause you see him everywhere he's a cool dude he just chills out parties and all that shit.

Chris, if you saw him 1 place during the day you'd probably be like damn there go Chris... shit let me just keep it moving.

If you went somewhere else unrelated and you saw him again you'd think ok what the fuck is this shit... why is Chris here too?


If you saw him again, you wouldn't even ask questions you'd just go home and pack and hope that snoop wasn't there waiting for you.


I would kill for a mini series of 5 episodes of this

Just 5 of them in jail trading war stories... could tie up some loose ends on how avon and marlo became who they were, who did weebay put away that we don't know about... weebay could've killed omar's brother for all we know..

what's nathan doing?
who is chris' family?

 

[dirtyd]

I gotta disagree with this point because Chris gave insight into the planning process when him, Snoop and Michael killed that family and Michael let the lil' kid live. Chris seemed like he planned shit out so that there wouldn't be any surprises. Chris fucked and lost control when he killed Mike's stepdad, but Wee Bey also botched the strip club owner hit and the hit where Stinkum got killed by Omar.

I chalk that up to Omar outsmarting him which he did to pretty much every dealer and kingpin, remember he even got Joe a couple of times and he's one of the smartest dudes on the show. This is all going to come down to personal opinion but it's a true testament to the show that 3 years later people still talk about it. Off topic but i personally think Avon won in the end because when he finally gets out he'll still have his money and his name is still respected in the streets, whereas Marlo was locked up for a day and his name was already dead which meant a lot to him.

 

[Pootypoot]

I chalk that up to Omar outsmarting him which he did to pretty much every dealer and kingpin, remember he even got Joe a couple of times and he's one of the smartest dudes on the show. This is all going to come down to personal opinion but it's a true testament to the show that 3 years later people still talk about it. Off topic but i personally think Avon won in the end because when he finally gets out he'll still have his money and his name is still respected in the streets, whereas Marlo was locked up for a day and his name was already dead which meant a lot to him.

You forgetting that Marlo left with millions. They had to pay him like 10 million just to get the connect. Cuzz beat a major drug and murder case and walked away richer than a motherfucker. No doubt a dude with his mentality could move somewhere eles and take over quick. Like Beanie Seagal said "find a quiet town and tie it down". Marlo was the real winner. I guess Avon didn't do too bad, but he wont be seeing daylight for quite some time.

 

[bgque12]

The fuck up on the hit was the fact that they ended up shooting an undercover officer which brought down a ton of heat on the organization. I remember Wee Bey saying something along the lines of if they knew that the strip club owner was not alone, they would have aborted the mission. I wouldn't say that the fuck up was all on Wee Bey, but he gets a share of the blame for not having better coordination.

And I'm surprised no one mentioned that Chris put a bullet in Avon in season 3.

Lil Man fukked that hit up not Wee Bay. That's why Wee Bay killed him before he rolled to Philly.

 

[Joe Money]

I think the problem is, we kinda saw how Marlo came into to power and what he had to do to keep it, therefore we saw Chris and Snoop killing niggas. We have no idea how many bodies Weebay racked when taking and keeping those towers. I always wished the writers would do full episode prequels to The Wire to see the rise of Avon and Stringer, taking the towers etc.

I would like to see that as well. And, just as all the other season had a particular theme concerning an institution, the prequel could be about public housing, redlining or something like that.

 

[alexw]

You forgetting that Marlo left with millions. They had to pay him like 10 million just to get the connect. Cuzz beat a major drug and murder case and walked away richer than a motherfucker. No doubt a dude with his mentality could move somewhere eles and take over quick. Like Beanie Seagal said "find a quiet town and tie it down". Marlo was the real winner. I guess Avon didn't do too bad, but he wont be seeing daylight for quite some time.

I doubt if Marlo wouldve lived much longer

Chris and Snoop were both gone

and he went right back to the corners when he was filthy fucking rich

dude only knew the streets and he refused to be "civilized"...it was just a matter of time

 

[dirtyd]

You forgetting that Marlo left with millions. They had to pay him like 10 million just to get the connect. Cuzz beat a major drug and murder case and walked away richer than a motherfucker. No doubt a dude with his mentality could move somewhere eles and take over quick. Like Beanie Seagal said "find a quiet town and tie it down". Marlo was the real winner. I guess Avon didn't do too bad, but he wont be seeing daylight for quite some time.

Im one of those people who aren't sure he got the 10mil, i mean why would they pay him when Slim knew who the greeks were and where they met? I also don't think you can pay to get a connect seeing as how it's still up to the greeks if they want to do business with them. Avon got 100g just to set up a meet so 10mil seems like a fairy tale to me. Marlo's mentality was like Avon where the streets came first which is why he dipped out of the party to fight 2 nobodies. Im not saying your view is wrong just giving my own observation, but that's why i liked this show because people could watch the same scene and have 2 or 10 different views