Official BREAKING BAD Season 4 Discussion Thread 10p SUNDAYS

Ya Hank is treating Marie fucked up...but given his personality it's totally plausible that he would lash out on the 1 closest to him during his weakest point...dude's a blowhard...I expected no less from him


Indeed. He was already distraught at the end of season 3 when he was hiding out in the empty building. Walt's come dangerously close on a few occasions on ratting him out. Like when he lied to Mike at the end of the 3rd season saying "He's the problem ... he's always been the problem" and "I can take you right to him ..." (when he lied to the 2 guys to be able to use his cellphone to call Jesse and give him the heads-up to go and kill Gale, as they had him (Walt) trapped at the laundromat and he couldn't do it himself). Jesse was an emotional wreck when he knocked on Gale's door. He was crying and shaking when he put the gun to his face (for the season 3 cliffhanger from June 2010). Yes ... Marie's starting to lose it being essentially cooped up in the house with Hank ... seeing as he's immobile ... rude and mean given his state ... miserable ... and basically biding the time with his "rocks" (they're minerals :lol: !!!), and watching shit like porn, legislative discussion, and bowling. As Bryan Cranston noted in the Breaking Bad Insider Podcast ... it's basically eating Hank up right now being cooped up in bed with a bedpan nearby. For someone who's so alpha and regularly such a virile man ... he's basically a shell of his former 'self and that shit is killing him ...
 
He's a self-destructive lil piece of shit...been that way from the start and now it's worse...I kinda figured out a good reason why Walt tolerates him tho...it's very simple...loyalty...where would Walt be right now if Jesse didn't introduce him to the game...for lack of a better term Jesse is his boy...he tried turning his back on Jesse once but when he realized what Gus's intentions were w/ the new partner he realized for better or for worse he still needed Jesse...again where would Walt be if Jesse had been like fuck off old man for good...but ya I hate his character and his survival is just not plausible to me...neither is Walt...the show is entertaining but it just seems to be stretching thin...my prediction is Gus will get got this season...and then the final season will be a showdown between Jesse and Walt...

True..I hope the show ends with both Walt and Jesse dead..

My prediction is that the trainer...



...will continue to train Hank :rolleyes:

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I just hope he dies/gets killed soon but the show is predictable television and relies heavily on him and Walt so it may not happen @ all or til the last season...hated his character for a minute tho

Yo was the black dude spying on Jesse or Walt? I'll look @ that scene again but I thought he was spying on Walt since he's more of a real threat than Jesse as far as Gus is concerned...I think the old man may have told Gus...those cameras there all of a sudden after the bar incident ain't coincidence...and Gus is smart enough not to kill Walter behind some shit like that until he can be replaced
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STILL don't care much for or pay attn to Pinkmen as he's like a casualty of the drug game where they are @ (like testers, drug deaths, drug dealing related casualties & the like in the world of pain & loss).
He's tolerated until replaced like all of them.
Walt still knows the punk assed kid who doesnt try hard enough is still fucked up over his chick ODing, the killing, seeing death up close & all the rest of the shit.

Walt's thirst got him into his own predicaments for thinking that they Wouldn't see him coming. He really thought it was one way & its always been the Other as I KNEW he was about to get dropped for talking that crazy shit in the bar; what else could have been done? OldMan could have simply said "I think we need to keep an eye on them."

Didn't know & don't really care who kat's spying on - its THEM either way. Walt's not a boss of shit but a worker with a responsibility & job to do.

Funk, true nothing else to do but them bitches are batshit crazy & have become the root of their own problems whether they choose to admit it or not; lucky they didnt introduce their Moms into the storyline to see where they got that skill from.

& even if Jesse body's everyone, he just represents a product of their profession & not a wildcard to me in a similar way Mickael laid his own law down in the Wire in the end;

Them stupid assed wives are the true wild cards as they can, have & will justify whatever to satisfy their inadequacies that they've help to create.

Unless she all out jumps & rapes the trainer, I dont see that happening as he has his hands full just trying to get BroInLaw back on his feet & retaining his own will to get better - he's trying to get up out of there & didnt even consider being there more than he has to;
plus She does shit impulsively in denial for the one shot kill - Im convinced that she was coming up off the top of her head freestyling all of those scenarios to them realtors:lol:; Skylar is more of a planner who moves with specific motive @ hand.

Look how she spoon fed that worker kat every single line of how to get the carwash from kat with the law books in tact:eek:
Chick was going hard in the paint in the same manner she was fucking her ex homeboy for her own benefits @ that lil job.


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True..I hope the show ends with both Walt and Jesse dead..

Ya @ this point that would be fitting...I a lil annoyed w/ both characters now...Skyler doesn't make shit any better w/ her "me too" ass...3 fuckin rookies and an ambulance chaser tryna play in the big leagues
 
Ya Skyler is a real selfish bitch...I don't like her...I remember when Walt was 1st going thru his shit and the bitch try to spin it like she was the victim...Jesse could eat a dick...show woulda been more plausible if they moved on w/o his character...great point about the chic too...I guess Walt still feels like he owes Jesse for that...makes sense

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STILL don't care much for or pay attn to Pinkmen as he's like a casualty of the drug game where they are @ (like testers, drug deaths, drug dealing related casualties & the like in the world of pain & loss).
He's tolerated until replaced like all of them.
Walt still knows the punk assed kid who doesnt try hard enough is still fucked up over his chick ODing, the killing, seeing death up close & all the rest of the shit.

Walt's thirst got him into his own predicaments for thinking that they Wouldn't see him coming. He really thought it was one way & its always been the Other as I KNEW he was about to get dropped for talking that crazy shit in the bar; what else could have been done? OldMan could have simply said "I think we need to keep an eye on them."

Didn't know & don't really care who kat's spying on - its THEM either way. Walt's not a boss of shit but a worker with a responsibility & job to do.

Funk, true nothing else to do but them bitches are batshit crazy & have become the root of their own problems whether they choose to admit it or not; lucky they didnt introduce their Moms into the storyline to see where they got that skill from.

& even if Jesse body's everyone, he just represents a product of their profession & not a wildcard to me in a similar way Mickael laid his own law down in the Wire in the end;

Them stupid assed wives are the true wild cards as they can, have & will justify whatever to satisfy their inadequacies that they've help to create.

Unless she all out jumps & rapes the trainer, I dont see that happening as he has his hands full just trying to get BroInLaw back on his feet & retaining his own will to get better - he's trying to get up out of there & didnt even consider being there more than he has to;
plus She does shit impulsively in denial for the one shot kill - Im convinced that she was coming up off the top of her head freestyling all of those scenarios to them realtors:lol:; Skylar is more of a planner who moves with specific motive @ hand.

Look how she spoon fed that worker kat every single line of how to get the carwash from kat with the law books in tact:eek:
Chick was going hard in the paint in the same manner she was fucking her ex homeboy for her own benefits @ that lil job.


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Ya @ this point that would be fitting...I a lil annoyed w/ both characters now...Skyler doesn't make shit any better w/ her "me too" ass...3 fuckin rookies and an ambulance chaser tryna play in the big leagues

The big leagues ... wherein things CAN'T END WELL ... with seasons 4 and 5 to go. There's too much blood on too many peoples' hands at this point ... shit isn't going to end peacefully for many in 2011 / 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUXvNd6pyD4
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Ya Skyler is a real selfish bitch...I don't like her...I remember when Walt was 1st going thru his shit and the bitch try to spin it like she was the victim...Jesse could eat a dick...show woulda been more plausible if they moved on w/o his character...great point about the chic too...I guess Walt still feels like he owes Jesse for that...makes sense
Im trying to think if I Ever liked the bitch.
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Once she got on it with the intervention & trying to make him take the $ from his old rich peer, I knew the reasons why I didnt like her would truly surface.

Like I said about Jesse - to me it doesnt matter if he wakes up or doesnt after his next binge or if that whole meth crackhouse burns up the fuck up in flames; no complains or poice EVER to that wild assed house :hmm:
How long realistically could a Meth production company go on making the highest quality of product with some dumb motherfuckas in the mix exist?
The whole shit could go ass @ any day based on all them contributing factors; No one is walking away scott free when this is all over just like that flick with the kid from SocialNetwork playing the Hasidic who was moving e pills back to Brooklyn with his team.

everybody's in bed with everybody else so they're ALL CO DEPENDENT like some real drug culture shit is what I take from the show.
Best BELIEVE that if Gus could do EVERYTHING by himself plus still be a successful multi millionaire franchise owner he damn sure would & clean the slate of all of em, then vat em up for waste removal:lol:.


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Another underlying theme of this show is how these busy body, not knowing what to do with themselves Sisters aren't feeling or even being useful to what's left of their families within suburban New Mexico; overburdening, quick to panic birds who lack proper faith in their husbands, becoming more of a problem to the working dynamic of family than they realize or will ever.
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I've always seen this show as really being a study in suburban dysfunction. From one of the early scenes in Season 1, when Skylar jacked Walt off while looking at something else on her laptop, I knew the show would be about something deeper than just drug-dealing.
 
Im trying to think if I Ever liked the bitch.
:smh:
Once she got on it with the intervention & trying to make him take the $ from his old rich peer, I knew the reasons why I didnt like her would truly surface.

Like I said about Jesse - to me it doesnt matter if he wakes up or doesnt after his next binge or if that whole meth crackhouse burns up the fuck up in flames; no complains or poice EVER to that wild assed house :hmm:
How long realistically could a Meth production company go on making the highest quality of product with some dumb motherfuckas in the mix exist?
The whole shit could go ass @ any day based on all them contributing factors; No one is walking away scott free when this is all over just like that flick with the kid from SocialNetwork playing the Hasidic who was moving e pills back to Brooklyn with his team.

everybody's in bed with everybody else so they're ALL CO DEPENDENT like some real drug culture shit is what I take from the show.
Best BELIEVE that if Gus could do EVERYTHING by himself plus still be a successful multi millionaire franchise owner he damn sure would & clean the slate of all of em, then vat em up for waste removal:lol:.


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I'm with you...I found her tolerable for a while, but when she started fucking Ted (and he was as dirty as Walt), I lost allr espect for Skylar...I cant stand her at all
 
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I've always seen this show as really being a study in suburban dysfunction. From one of the early scenes in Season 1, when Skylar jacked Walt off while looking at something else on her laptop, I knew the show would be about something deeper than just drug-dealing.
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Think that's the same & only reason I even got into watching this shit in the 1st place for the eminent self destruction that was inevitable even b4 the drug shit. That & the transformation of the character of Walt.
Fuck glorifying the perfect Meth in sales to distribution from start to finish. Who cares.

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How tense was that first scene!! Old dude probably thinking "I'm getting too old for this shit!"

My thoughts exactly @ him probably thinking "I'm too old for this shit" :lol:

That scene was tense plus Hank and Walt when Hank brought up the W.W. I don't think he bought the gambling story :smh:
 
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Oh shit is the thing we all wished for about to happen?

Nice cliffy

The old man got something up his sleeve...I think he will use Jesse to set up a meet between Hank and Gus

When Jesse told him that bit about the blindfold the look on the old man face was like yo this kid got his head on straight and he not just a brain dead junkie...he seeing that Walt and Jesse kinda do things smart whereas Gus is getting reckless...he got shot the fuck up almost @ the beginning and he knew that was cause of Gus shit...we'll see tho...I mad @ how they ended it :lol: Plus cacs will always side w/ cacs...you know he gone betray Gus :lol:
 
Wild guess here but I guessing Gus greenlighted Jesse and the old man is gonna front like he did it...and this will set up the meeting between Gus and Walt :dunno:

It was ironic watching how Walt is the man now and Hank is in the weak position when Hank was explaining the rocks to hs son

I could be wrong but I think the old guy has a newfound respect for Jesse
 
Wild guess here but I guessing Gus greenlighted Jesse and the old man is gonna front like he did it...and this will set up the meeting between Gus and Walt :dunno:

It was ironic watching how Walt is the man now and Hank is in the weak position when Hank was explaining the rocks to hs son

I could be wrong but I think the old guy has a newfound respect for Jesse

This is a good guess.... I think Mike will take Jesse to see a family member or a friend that was destructive like he is...like a "wake up call" ride..I think he does care for Jesse now and wants to help him because unlike Walt, Mike sees that Jesse is in deep, deep despair...Jesse needs a wake up....
 
Episode 4 was solid. Been following this season with my pops as he's been on board since Day 1 and likes all the AMC programming. As soon as the episode started ... we both said - "Ah shit, Mike's gonna blast someone / some people!" ... as soon as Walt/son/wife/child were going to visit at Hank/Marie's place we both thought - "Damn, how long has it been since they've all been together? Back at the hospital after Hank was recovering from the shootout in season 3?" / As soon as Jesse went and got the pizza money for one of the addicts - pops said - "Ah shit, that other guy is gonna ROB HIM BLIND ..." / should be interesting to see if/when Jesse gets knocked off. Season 4? Season 5? Good little cliffhanger at the end of the episode, and I started laughing as soon as they showed up at Hank/Marie's place. Said a couple of times aloud ... "Ah fuck ... THE LAB NOTES!!!! Walt is gonna be ice cold ... or shit his pants ... the fuckin' LAB NOTES ..." :lol::lol::lol: ... lol @ the save about Walter White ... and renowned poet Walt Whitman! Well played, Walt!
 
Bye Bye JESSE...!!:yes:

No way their killing Jessie in the 4th episode of the second to last season. If they were going to kill him, and they may in the future, you'll never see it coming and they won't imply it in a promo for the next episode IMO.

This is a good guess.... I think Mike will take Jesse to see a family member or a friend that was destructive like he is...like a "wake up call" ride..I think he does care for Jesse now and wants to help him because unlike Walt, Mike sees that Jesse is in deep, deep despair...Jesse needs a wake up....

Naw, Mike doesn't give a fuck about anybody so he's not putting himself out there for Jessie and isn't going to go to those lengths to help him either.

He was either sent by Gus or this is an angle that Mike see's can benefit him. Maybe he see's a little killer, intelligence an ruthlessness in Jessie after their encounter at their apartment and he's going to take him under his wing which will in some way benefit him.

I could see something like Mike maybe taking out someone who was going to take out Pinkman, killing him, then taking Pinkman out to the dessert and making him dig a ditch for him to show his how serious shit is getting and he needs to get himself together. That could be a way to gain the kids confidence, show him that he's willing to and has protected him, all in an attempt to get some money and get out of the life ( I remember when he was talking to Walt before he beat him up he mentioned money like he wasn't making that much).
 
lol @ the save about Walter White ... and renowned poet Walt Whitman! Well played, Walt!

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I don't think that was a save I think Walt was uncomfortable and worried as shit that Gayle may have had a little crush on him. I think he was more relieved to find that wasn't the case more than he was worried about his brother in law really thinking he was involved in this shit.

I see his brother in law recovering toward the end of this season and starting to really piece shit together. That will lead to the chaos that will ensue in season 5.

The creator of the show said season 5 for sure is the last season and has said that everyone gets a little comeuppance in the last season so I expect hell for everyone and great TV for us.
 
No way their killing Jessie in the 4th episode of the second to last season. If they were going to kill him, and they may in the future, you'll never see it coming and they won't imply it in a promo for the next episode IMO.



Naw, Mike doesn't give a fuck about anybody so he's not putting himself out there for Jessie and isn't going to go to those lengths to help him either.

He was either sent by Gus or this is an angle that Mike see's can benefit him. Maybe he see's a little killer, intelligence an ruthlessness in Jessie after their encounter at their apartment and he's going to take him under his wing which will in some way benefit him.

I could see something like Mike maybe taking out someone who was going to take out Pinkman, killing him, then taking Pinkman out to the dessert and making him dig a ditch for him to show his how serious shit is getting and he needs to get himself together. That could be a way to gain the kids confidence, show him that he's willing to and has protected him, all in an attempt to get some money and get out of the life ( I remember when he was talking to Walt before he beat him up he mentioned money like he wasn't making that much).

:yes: Good post
 
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I don't think that was a save I think Walt was uncomfortable and worried as shit that Gayle may have had a little crush on him. I think he was more relieved to find that wasn't the case more than he was worried about his brother in law really thinking he was involved in this shit.

I see his brother in law recovering toward the end of this season and starting to really piece shit together. That will lead to the chaos that will ensue in season 5.

The creator of the show said season 5 for sure is the last season and has said that everyone gets a little comeuppance in the last season so I expect hell for everyone and great TV for us.

Outlaw - What I couldn't figure out for a minute yesterday was that it sounded like HANK figured Gale was still alive. I was like - "Wait a second - you have pictures of the guy's dead body at the crime scene ... he's gone. You're after your brother-in-law "Heisenberg", and you already know that Jesse Pinkman is implicated per the violent assault you carried out at the front door of his residence in season 3, and the whole CAT & MOUSE game you were playing with them both (all the while not realizing that Walt was one of the main guys you were after)." Yeah ... Gilligan said in mid-2010 that he was hoping to be given the greenlight from AMC to go 4 - 5 seasons to tell the story in full. We're all glad to have heard within the past year that it's for sure going a full 5 without being fucked with or cut short. Plus, the ratings are so strong. Like my pops said way back in season 2 - "This won't end well for a number of people ... TOO MANY PEOPLE have far too much dirt on their hands as this story has played out over the course a year so far ... and Walt's prognosis was only for 2 years remaining (given his cancer)." People are going to be killed off. The Cartel twins / the 2 guys from the start of last night's episode / Hank (almost) / Victor / and the list WILL go on ...

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I love how when I talk to anyone about this show. It's always the same thing. "when they gonna kill off jesse?...He is unprofessional and stupid as fuck...why is walt protecting this dumbass?" I think of jesse as the little kid you invite to the grown folks table but you get mad when he starts acting immature at the table....hello there is a reason for his behavior, he isn't there mentally yet but you invited him. Walt not brought him in but he blackmailed jesse to start cooking way back in episode 1 season 1. "we cook, I won't tell my brother in law where you love" he has had his ass beat numerous times, lost his homeboy to the game (by a kid no less), been cut off by his parents, been to rehab, caused his gf to overdose, and finally shot a man between the eyes, all in a years time. He is a knucklehead yes, but is he supposed to be anything other than the stupid fuckup that walt saw climbing out the window? I mean really now, chili p jesse is supposed to be professional? How bout realizing the truth that walt's actions are stemming from the time he realized he had cancer has been one significant fuckup after another? From deciding to cook meth, kill the two dudes, cook more meth, say no to the help from your old gf, beat cancer, then watch your marriage go up in smoke...I can't relate but damn if it ain't the best show on tv!
 
I never liked her from the first episode when she gave Walt that half assed handjob. It was his birthday. She could have at least sucked his dick.

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This

and FUCK her sister too i hate that bitch even more


"look down at the floor and say i truly TRULY 2 truly sorry"... Walt son was like "COOL DAD does that mean i can get a car for my brithday" that kinda women that keeps a man down is the worst kind wife in the world, i hope she goes to jail
 
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This nigga had his chest all puffed out like he did something after he prepared that batch! :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

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I don't think that was a save I think Walt was uncomfortable and worried as shit that Gayle may have had a little crush on him. I think he was more relieved to find that wasn't the case more than he was worried about his brother in law really thinking he was involved in this shit.

Man that was a save imo...Walt was sweating bullets the minute he saw the folder...and Hank directing him to the W.W. part and coolly saying Walter White w/o so much as cracking a smile was eery as hell...Hank is a dickhead but he's good @ what he does...he has always been w/in a step of catching Walter redhanded literally...he just has the disadvantage of not knowing who he's really looking for. Walt kinda played himself too asking Hank to share the casework w/ him...that was a lil too obvious imo
 
Naw, Mike doesn't give a fuck about anybody so he's not putting himself out there for Jessie and isn't going to go to those lengths to help him either.

Ya after he told that story about when he was a cop he don't strike me as a dude who believe in giving ppl 2nd chances and rehabilitating them and shit...his position right now w/ Gus is looking fucked up as he faced death twice and I think he just looking to improve his position...and perhaps using Jesse can help him do that...he is just hired help right now...he could easily maneuver himself into a partnership w/ Walt and Jesse
 
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