Venezuelan Coup and the US involvement

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hey what's wrong with no term limits? our government has no problems with it in egypt or Pakistan - or earlier in Iraq with Saddam or Iran with the Shah or Pinochet in Chile. Sounds like you're being unamerican.
Actually, I agree that there should be no term limits, because we already have them. They are called elections.
BTW, just as a totally partisan dig, the reason for the presidential term limit was a Democrat by the name of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He was elected to 4 Presidential terms. He only served three though, as he died in office. So, maybe there is something to the left looking to dope the people into giving them thier tyrannical power.
 

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i see both embassies emptying soon if this keeps on
will this effect citgo?
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<font size="5"><center>U.S. Countering Chavez Tactics</font size>
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Moves Afoot To Isolate Venezuela's Outspoken Anti-American Leader</font size></center>

March 13, 2006
By PAUL RICHTER, Los Angeles Times

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration is stepping up efforts to counter the attempts of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to build a unified opposition to U.S. influence in a region that is drifting politically to the left.

U.S. diplomats have sought in recent years to mute their conflicts with Chavez, fearing that a war of words with the flamboyant populist could raise his stature at home and abroad. But in recent months, as Chavez has sharpened his attacks - and touched American nerves by increasing ties with Iran - American officials have become more outspoken about their intentions to isolate him.

Signaling the shift, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told Congress last month that the United States is actively organizing other countries to carry out an "inoculation strategy" against what it sees as meddling by Chavez.

U.S. officials view Chavez's use of his oil-generated wealth to help opposition groups in countries such as Nicaragua, Colombia and Peru as an attempt to destabilize regimes friendly to the U.S.

"We are working with other countries to make certain that there is a united front against some of the things that Venezuela gets involved in," said Rice, who called Venezuela a "sidekick" of Iran.

As part of the new U.S. view of Venezuela, U.S. defense and intelligence officials have revised their assessment of the security threat Venezuela poses to the region. They say they believe Venezuela will have growing military and diplomatic relationships with North Korea and Iran, and point with concern to its arms buildup. Of equal concern is that country's overhaul of its military doctrine, which now emphasizes "asymmetric warfare" - a strategy of sabotage and hit-and-run attacks against a greater military power, much like those used by Iraqi insurgents.

The administration's revived interest in Latin America comes at a time when Congress has been pressing the Bush administration to define its strategy amid a growing number of clashes with the Chavez government:

Last month, the United States and Venezuela engaged in a diplomatic tit-for-tat reminiscent of the Cold War when they traded espionage accusations against each others' diplomats, then expelled them.

The two countries have clashed on airspace and landing rights for civilian and military aircraft, as the United States has sought to block Venezuela's long-shot bid to become a non-permanent member of the United Nations Security Council.

Venezuela has threatened to end the oil sales that provide the United States with about 12 percent of its imports and has begun rewriting its contracts with U.S. oil companies.

The tougher U.S. approach also reflects an American interest in trying to head off any further leftist inroads in upcoming elections in the region. Thirteen governments face re-election this year in Latin America, and Chavez has made known his support for opposition candidates in several of the countries, including Mexico, which elects its president in July.

"There is some concern that if the United States doesn't play its cards right, there could be a major policy shift in the region that favors Venezuela's interests over the United States," said Daniel P. Erikson, of the Inter-American dialogue, a research organization in Washington.

Since he took office in 1999, Chavez has been trying to build a left-leaning alliance and has offered cut-rate oil and other inducements through a foreign aid program some believe to be worth billions of dollars per year. His stated aim is to push an alternative development model that eases the sting of globalism and favors the interests of the poor, who make up about 40 percent of the region's population.

Many observers are skeptical that Chavez has much appeal beyond Fidel Castro's Cuba and impoverished Bolivia, but U.S. officials are concerned that his efforts could foment violence in unstable countries and weaken Latin American support for the American program of free-market economics and American-style governance.



Even as the administration has toughened its approach, there appear to be differing views within the U.S. government on how to deal with Venezuela.

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld last month likened Chavez to Adolf Hitler, saying that both leaders were elected legally. At the same time, Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, appearing before the Senate last week, said Chavez was spending "very extravagantly" to build alliances, and was seeking to strengthen ties with Iran, North Korea, and Cuba.

Whether the tough talk will resonate among Latin American audiences is uncertain. Thus far, only Mexico, not an immediate neighbor, has persisted in criticizing Chavez.

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Misquoting Chavez to Make Him Anti-Semitic

Published on Wednesday, March 15, 2006 by Minuteman Media
Misquoting Chavez to Make Him Anti-Semitic
by Steve Rendall and Jim Naureckas


It began with a bulletin from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency accusing Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez of invoking an old anti-Semitic slur. The Simon Wiesenthal Center in Los Angeles quickly picked it up, sending out word that in a Christmas Eve speech, Chavez had declared, "the world has wealth for all, but some minorities, the descendants of the same people that crucified Christ, have taken over all the wealth of the world."

The Voice of America covered the charge immediately. Then opinion journals on the right took up the issue. "On Christmas Eve, Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez's Christian-socialist cant drifted into anti-Semitism," wrote the Daily Standard, the “Weekly Standard's” Web-only edition. “The American Spectator” was so excited about the quote, which it called "the standard populist hatemongering of Latin America's new left leaders," that it presented it as coming from two different speeches, one on Christmas and one on Christmas Eve.

Then more mainstream outlets began to pick up the story. "Chavez lambasted Jews," the “New York Daily News'” Lloyd Grove reported. A column in the “Los Angeles Times” used the quote to label Chavez "a jerk and a friend of tyranny." “Wall Street Journal” columnist Mary Anastasia O'Grady called Chavez’s words "an ugly anti-Semitic swipe.”

One can see why the words attributed to Chavez provoked outrage. After all, descriptions of the Jews as a wealthy minority that "crucified Christ" have been an anti-Semitic stock in trade for centuries. But the criticisms of Chavez almost uniformly used selective, even deceptive editing to remove material that put his words in a different context.

Here's a translation of the full passage from Chavez's speech:

"The world has an offer for everybody but it turned out that a few minorities–the descendants of those who crucified Christ, the descendants of those who expelled Bolivar from here and also those who in a certain way crucified him in Santa Marta, there in Colombia--they took possession of the riches of the world, a minority took possession of the planet’s gold, the silver, the minerals, the water, the good lands, the oil, and they have concentrated all the riches in the hands of a few; less than 10 percent of the world population owns more than half of the riches of the world."

The biggest problem with depicting Chavez's speech as an anti-Semitic attack is that Chavez clearly suggested that "the descendants of those who crucified Christ" are the same people as "the descendants of those who expelled Bolivar from here." As American Rabbi Arthur Waskow, who questioned the charge, told the Associated Press, "I know of no one who accuses the Jews of fighting against Bolivar." Bolivar, in fact, fought against the government of King Ferdinand VII of Spain, who reinstituted the anti-Semitic Spanish Inquisition when he took power in 1813.

Most of the accounts attacking Chavez left the reference to Bolivar out entirely; the Wiesenthal Center deleted that clause from the speech without even offering an ellipsis, which is tantamount to fabrication.

As Waskow further pointed out, in the Gospel accounts, "it was the Roman Empire, and Roman soldiers, who crucified Jesus." While it's true that anti-Semites often accuse Jews of killing Jesus, it's not fair to assert that anyone who refers to the crucifixion of Jesus is attacking the Jewish people.

That Chavez's comments were part of some anti-Semitic campaign was disputed by the Confederation of Jewish Associations of Venezuela, which wrote to the Wiesenthal Center: "We believe the president was not talking about Jews…. You have acted on your own, without consulting us, on issues that you don't know or understand." The American Jewish Committee and the American Jewish Congress agreed with the Venezuelan group's view that Chavez was not referring to Jews in his speech.

In context, the Chavez speech seems to be an attempt by Chavez to link the attacks on his populist government to the attacks on his two oft-cited heroes, Jesus and Bolivar; the "minority" that would link the two would be the rich and powerful minority of society.

Surely anti-Semitism is a problem that deserves to be treated seriously, and not used as a pretense to bash official enemies.

Steve Rendall is with Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting, the national media watch group that offers well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship, based in New York City. Jim Naurekas is editor of “EXTRA!,” a publication of FAIR.

© 2006 MinutemanMedia.org
 

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Re: Misquoting Chavez to Make Him Anti-Semitic

damn man how did my south america goin commie thread get deleted :smh:
this is bullshit



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Re: Misquoting Chavez to Make Him Anti-Semitic

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QueEx said:
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Has the confiscation of private property/business worked sucessfully, anywhere ???

QueEx

It works when your last name is Bush...Case in point...

Back in 1989, Bush hauled in the moolah on the stadium built in Arlington, Texas for the Texas Rangers. What's interesting about this one is that the Texas legislature passed a bill allowing the private corporation that owned the Rangers to exercise eminent domain, normally a power reserved for public entities.

We're all pretty familiar with condemnation for public projects. It's what the Army Corps of Engineers does to build flood-control dams or Municipalities do to construct water mains or Highway Authorities do to obtain rights-of-way. In the Texas Rangers case the condemnation was on behalf of a handful of private individuals, one of whom was George W.

This surprising form of socialism with baseball teams condemning private property for new stadiums is now quite common in the US. It had a particularly sordid ring in the Texas deal.

This private corporation condemned not only enough land for a spanking new baseball stadium, but also took an additional 300 acres - yes 300 acres - of surrounding land for commercial development. Arlington residents floated most of the package with jacked-up taxes. These paid for the bonds needed to buy the land. It seems that our no-tax President wasn't ideologically opposed to increasing taxes if it padded his own bank account.

The padding was generous: Bush made out like a bandit with his initial investment of $640,000 zooming to a cool $15.4 million in 1998 when he sold out.

Just one example! :D
 

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QueEx said:
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Has the confiscation of private property/business worked sucessfully, anywhere ???

QueEx

It works when your last name is Bush...Case in point...

Back in 1989, Bush hauled in the moolah on the stadium built in Arlington, Texas for the Texas Rangers. What's interesting about this one is that the Texas legislature passed a bill allowing the private corporation that owned the Rangers to exercise eminent domain, normally a power reserved for public entities.

We're all pretty familiar with condemnation for public projects. It's what the Army Corps of Engineers does to build flood-control dams or Municipalities do to construct water mains or Highway Authorities do to obtain rights-of-way. In the Texas Rangers case the condemnation was on behalf of a handful of private individuals, one of whom was George W.

This surprising form of socialism with baseball teams condemning private property for new stadiums is now quite common in the US. It had a particularly sordid ring in the Texas deal.

This private corporation condemned not only enough land for a spanking new baseball stadium, but also took an additional 300 acres - yes 300 acres - of surrounding land for commercial development. Arlington residents floated most of the package with jacked-up taxes. These paid for the bonds needed to buy the land. It seems that our no-tax President wasn't ideologically opposed to increasing taxes if it padded his own bank account.

The padding was generous: Bush made out like a bandit with his initial investment of $640,000 zooming to a cool $15.4 million in 1998 when he sold out.
 

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GET YOU HOT said:
It works when your last name is Bush...Case in point...

Back in 1989, Bush hauled in the moolah on the stadium built in Arlington, Texas for the Texas Rangers. What's interesting about this one is that the Texas legislature passed a bill allowing the private corporation that owned the Rangers to exercise eminent domain, normally a power reserved for public entities.

We're all pretty familiar with condemnation for public projects. It's what the Army Corps of Engineers does to build flood-control dams or Municipalities do to construct water mains or Highway Authorities do to obtain rights-of-way. In the Texas Rangers case the condemnation was on behalf of a handful of private individuals, one of whom was George W.

This surprising form of socialism with baseball teams condemning private property for new stadiums is now quite common in the US. It had a particularly sordid ring in the Texas deal.

This private corporation condemned not only enough land for a spanking new baseball stadium, but also took an additional 300 acres - yes 300 acres - of surrounding land for commercial development. Arlington residents floated most of the package with jacked-up taxes. These paid for the bonds needed to buy the land. It seems that our no-tax President wasn't ideologically opposed to increasing taxes if it padded his own bank account.

The padding was generous: Bush made out like a bandit with his initial investment of $640,000 zooming to a cool $15.4 million in 1998 when he sold out.

Just one example! :D
:D :smh:
 

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U.S. admits that Posada entered Miami on the Santrina

TERRORIST Luis Posada Carriles illegally entered the United States on March 18, 2005 aboard the Santrina, owned by Santiago Alvarez Fernández-Magriñá, according to documents presented before a federal court in Florida by U.S. district attorneys.
U.S. admits that Posada entered Miami on the Santrina


"By affirming that Posada Carriles entered the United States on the Santrina with Santiago Alvarez Fernández-Magriñá, the prosecution itself is questioning the credibility of Posada, Alvarez, his accomplices and even the White House," lawyer José Pertierra told Cubadebate. Pertierra is the Venezuelan government’s legal representative in the extradition case of the Cuban-born terrorist who is a naturalized citizen of Venezuela.

Upon entering the United States illegally, Posada and his accomplices lied to protect the Santrina crew. "To help a terrorist enter the United States illegally is a very serious felony that is punishable by several years in prison. To lie to cover up a felony is also a federal crime," added the legal expert.

Luis Posada Carriles entered the United States on March, 2005 and although that was publicly known, the Department of Homeland Security did not arrest him until May 17, 2005. Washington denied knowing his whereabouts. "Now we learn that one of the people who helped Posada to enter the country illegally worked for the FBI. It is evident that the White House has always known how Posada entered the country, with whom he entered, and where he was living," assured Pertierra, who added: "This is a blemish on them all."

Gilberto Abascal, key witness for the U.S. district attorney in the case of Santiago Alvarez Fernández-Magriñá and Osvaldo Mitat, informed authorities of his participation in the illegal operation to clandestinely bring Posada from Isla Mujeres, México, to Miami on the shrimper Santrina.

A document signed by U.S. District Attorney Alexander Acosta and Assistant U.S. Attorney Randy Hummel states that Abascal, an FBI informant, reported the crime. The revelation about Posada appeared in a letter dated February 27, sent by the district attorney in response to a petition by lawyer Arturo Hernández, who represents Fernández-Magriñá.

"He [Abascal] also traveled with Santiago Alvarez Fernández-Magriñá in his boat [Santrina] to Mexico during the successful adventure in human trafficking that resulted in Luis Posada’s illegal entry in the United States," the text of the letter reads.

El Nuevo Herald admitted this Saturday that "it is the first time a government document has corroborated that an FBI informant was in contact with Posada during his transfer to U.S. territory. The Cuban government has alleged this version of the account since April, supported by a report in the Mexican periodical Por Esto!, but Posada kept claiming that he reached the US by crossing the Texan border in a car and later taking a bus to Miami."

Abascal, 40, who is now under the witness protection program, confirmed his statement during a brief telephone conversation with El Nuevo Herald.

"It is true, everything I said is already in public documents," said Abascal, who declined to offer details about his service as informant.

Eduardo Soto, lawyer for Posada, said that he believes his client’s version, but said that "at this point it is irrelevant how he entered."

According to José Pertierra, "for the immigration case, it is clear that he entered illegally; it is not important if it was by land or sea. But lying affects his credibility in everything, including what he said about possible torture in Venezuela for which he received the benefit of the Convention against Torture. Posada lied, Alvarez lied, and Washington, through an FBI informant, knew perfectly well how this terrorist entered U.S. territory."

If the FBI knew —argues Pertierra— the Security Department knew. "Why didn’t they arrest him in March? Why didn’t they press charges against Alvarez and Mitat for having helped a terrorist to illegally enter the country?"

Abascal, Alvarez and Mitat were the crew of the Santrina, along with the skipper José Pujol and Rubén López Castro. The vessel sailed to Isla Mujeres and ran aground in a reef area on March 14, 2005, and after authorization by Mexican authorities they set sail for Miami, where they arrived four days later.

Judge Cohn authorized the presence of Posada as a witness in the case against Santiago Alvarez Fernández-Magriñá and Mitat, but Soto has stated that his client will not testify in the trial.

Posada Carriles has been in custody in El Paso, Texas, since last May 17. His principal benefactor, Santiago Alvarez Fernández-Magriñá, and Mitat, both 64, were arrested in late November after tips from Abascal regarding a cooler full of weapons.

(Taken from Cubadebate)



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Cuba Militant Applies for U.S. Citizenship


Wednesday April 26, 2006 5:31 AM

By ALICIA A. CALDWELL

Associated Press Writer

EL PASO, Texas (AP) - A Cuban militant accused of masterminding the 1976 bombing of a Cuban airliner has applied to become a U.S. citizen, his lawyer said Tuesday.

Luis Posada Carriles, who has been jailed in El Paso on immigration charges since May, is scheduled to be interviewed Wednesday as part of his application.

Felipe D.J. Millan, an immigration lawyer hired by Posada's Miami lawyers, said he will accompany Posada during the interview but declined to provide details of the application.

Posada, a former CIA operative and a fervent foe of Cuban President Fidel Castro, is accused by Cuba and Venezuela of plotting the 1976 bombing while living in Venezuela. He has denied involvement in the bombing, which killed 73 people.

Posada escaped from a Venezuelan prison in 1985 while awaiting retrial on the airline bombing charges, and Venezuela has formally sought his extradition.

He was jailed last year on immigration charges after being accused of sneaking into Texas from Mexico in March 2005. He was arrested in May after speaking to reporters in Miami.

In September, an immigration judge ruled that Posada should be deported, but said that the aging militant could not be sent to Cuba, where he was born, or Venezuela, where he is a naturalized citizen, because of the potential that he would be tortured. He has remained jailed since that decision.

Earlier this month, his Miami lawyers asked that a federal judge decide if the government can keep him jailed indefinitely while they look for a country where they can deport him.
 

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Cuban, Venezuelan Aid Streams Into Bolivia

By FIONA SMITH
The Associated Press
Saturday, May 6, 2006; 4:27 PM

LA PAZ, Bolivia -- Gladys Melani was nearly blind from cataracts. Juana Mamani was illiterate. Sharon Mayra didn't officially exist. What these three Bolivians had in common was poverty, and help from Cuba and Venezuela in solving their problems.

Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez have made a fast and extensive start in providing President Evo Morales' three-month-old left-wing government with humanitarian aid, winning the thanks of its beneficiaries as well as political points.

It's part of what Morales, in a veiled taunt to the Bush administration, calls an "axis of good."

Melani's cataracts were removed for free by one of some 700 Cuban doctors who have fanned out to the farthest corners of Bolivia. Cuban teaching materials are helping Mamani learn to read and write.

Technology from Venezuela got 17-year-old Mayra the ID card without which she couldn't travel abroad, vote, enter government buildings or collect a pension. An estimated 1 million poor Bolivians, nearly 10 percent of the population, are expected to get the same help.

Venezuela is also helping to set up 109 rural radio stations so Morales can spread his socialist gospel much as Chavez has done.

Morales, an Aymara Indian, won office in December in a landslide of discontent with the traditional ruling class. On April 29, he signed a "trade agreement of the people" with Castro and Chavez, a mostly symbolic alternative to free trade agreements Washington has reached with other Latin American countries.

Two days later, he decreed the nationalization of Bolivia's natural gas, an even more forceful assertion of state control of mineral resources than Chavez has taken with his nation's oil.

The United States remains Bolivia's single biggest foreign donor, contributing a bit less than half of the $360 million annually with which rich nations collectively pay 60 percent of the Bolivian government's bills.

But the Cuban and Venezuelan largesse has mounted as Morales continues to veer to the left. Last weekend, Venezuela offered an additional $130 million in two separate funds _ one for social projects, another for infrastructure and development projects.

"What these doctors and workers have generated goes beyond cooperation and is more about inter-human relations," said Alberto Nogales, Bolivia's vice minister of health.

Critics see dangers.

Fernando Messmer, an opposition congressman and former foreign minister, says Venezuela could use the database set up for the ID cards to keep tabs on Bolivians.

He has no proof, but contends Venezuela and Cuba are concerned more with promoting Morales than helping the poor.

"It's dangerous because it's moving toward consolidating a totalitarian state," he said.

Venezuela's state energy company, meanwhile, has signed a contract to build an ethane, methane and propane plant in Bolivia, and Venezuelan experts are involved in the details of Morales' gas nationalization. Chavez has offered Bolivia diesel fuel that can be paid for with farm products such as soy.

Flush with petrodollars, Chavez has offered fuel at preferential rates to 13 Caribbean countries as well as some poor U.S. districts, and scholarships for Haitians.

Meanwhile the Cubans, who in Cold War times sent soldiers to fight in Angola and Nicaragua, have focused on bringing medicine and literacy to friendly neighbors, Venezuela included.

A literacy campaign modeled on the one Cuba ran in Venezuela aims to teach Bolivia's 720,000 illiterates to read and write in two years. Cuba has delivered 30,000 TV sets plus workbooks and videotapes for Bolivian volunteer teachers.

It is equipping 20 rural Bolivian hospitals, providing free eye surgery in three new ophthalmology centers, and offering to pay for 6,000 Bolivians to study in Cuba.

The Bolivian Medical Association objects, saying the country has 10,000 unemployed doctors of its own. But 75-year-old Gladys Melani feels only gratitude to the eye doctors at a newly-equipped center in La Paz.

"Thank God the Cuban doctors arrived with all their understanding and care. They operated on me, and thanks to them I can see, I can keep working," she said.

Morales' opponents accuse him of using the Venezuelan and Cuban aid programs to mobilize support in July 2 elections for an assembly to rewrite Bolivian's constitution _ a pattern similar to that which helped Chavez consolidate power in Venezuela.

But independent political analyst Cayetano Llobet believes the fears are overblown.

"There's a prejudiced mentality in the middle class that believes we're practically being invaded by Cuba and Venezuela," he said. "I don't think it's that serious or alarming."
© 2006 The Associated Press
 

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<font size="5"><center>Oil for no one if Iran attacked: Chavez</font size></center>

Regional-Venezuela, Politics, 5/12/2006

Visiting Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said in Rome oyesterday that in case of a military attack against Iran, no country in the world would have access to crude oil.

Chavez made the remark at a press conference, adding, "As Iran's President Ahmadinejad has reiterated, if Tehran would come under attack, oil would get scarce for everyone."

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<font size="5"><center>Chavez: Oil for no one if Iran attacked</font size>

<font size="4">"Bush should be put to trial at the international court
of justice for having launched genocide in Iraq ... the United
States' war machine should be dismantled, since under the
current conditions it is a threat against the entire mankind,
particularly against our children"</font size></center>
5/12/06

Rome, May 12, IRNA-Visiting Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said in Rome on Thursday in case of a military attack against Iran, no country in the world would have access to crude oil.

Chavez made the remark at a press conference, adding, "As Iran's President Ahmadinejad has reiterated, if Tehran would come under attack, oil would get scarce for everyone."

He also said that the US President George W. Bush should be put to trial at the international court of justice for having launched genocide in Iraq.

The Venezuelan President added, "For all the horror it has created around the globe in the course of the past century, the United States' war machine should be dismantled, since under the current conditions it is a threat against the entire mankind, particularly against our children."

Chavez added, "The North American empire is the most cruel murderer regime that has ever come to power in world history and a serious threat for all nations."

He believes the death of the United States had better taken place in the course of the 21st century, because "otherwise the entire world would face the threat of annihilation."

The revolutionary Latin American President concluded his remarks, arguing, "Although in terms of military power the United States ranks first in the world, but in the public opinion of the world nations it ranks rock bottom low, and many nations fell stronger in terms of logical reasoning than the United States."

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez who was in Italy's capital, Rome, on a two day visit left for Vienna, Austria, on Thursday evening.

During his stay in Rome President Chavez in addition to his Italian counterpart, met and conferred with the new Italian Parliament Speaker Fausto Bertinotti, the Head of Italy's leftist Democratic Party Piero Fassino, and in Vatican, with Pope Benedict XVI.

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<font size="5"><center>Oil speaks louder than words </font size>
<font size="6">in Caracas and Washington</font size></center>


The Telegraph (London)
By Alec Russell in Washington
(Filed: 12/05/2006)



Donald Rumsfeld has compared him to Hitler. Condoleezza Rice has labelled him "the most dangerous man in the region".

Pat Robertson, the Right-wing evangelist, has accused him of trying to export Islamic radicalism and called for his assassination.

Venezuela's president, Hugo Chavez, is a deep irritant to Washington.

With the exception of Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, no world leader is so willing to insult the world's only superpower.

His rhetoric has whipped up a mood of anti-Yankeeism in Washington's backyard. Evo Morales, Bolivia's new president, would not have been so brazen in nationalising the country's gas fields without the encouragement of Mr Chavez. Also, unlike some of his more tin-pot regional predecessors, he is seen as posing a military and economic challenge.

First, there is his flirtation with America's number one bogeyman, Iran. When the UN was asked to refer Iran to the Security Council only Venezuela, Cuba and Syria voted against.

Second, he has billions of dollars in oil revenues. America relies on Venezuelan oil for 14 per cent of its imported fuel.

Yet Mr Chavez's European fans may be disappointed if they expect him to act on his threats and punish the gas guzzlers of Middle America by sending his oil elsewhere. Just as America needs Venezuelan oil, so Caracas needs the US market which accounts for more than half of its exports.

Eric Farnsworth, the Latin American adviser at the White House under President Bill Clinton, said that behind the rhetoric both capitals were taking a pragmatic approach.

Mr Chavez depends on his oil revenues, and to refine Venezuela's heavy crude he relies largely on American facilities, he added. "You can rattle the cage a bit but without the US relationship you are not going to get the oil to market."

As for Mr Chavez's regional hegemonic dreams, he has successfully exploited anti-Bush administration sentiment but many of the region's players appear to be seeking a middle ground.

"He is the guy who stands up to Bush," said Michael Schifter, a regional expert. "A lot of countries - Chile, Brazil - want a bit of elbow room from Washington. But his attempts to broker a coalition haven't exactly prospered.

"I don't call him a threat."

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<font size="5"><center>My lover, the great dictator</font size>
<font size="4">The ex-mistress of Venezuela’s leader,
darling of Britain’s left, predicts an autocratic
disaster, reports Tony Allen-Mills </font wsize></center>

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The Sunday Times (London)
May 14, 2006

THERE are many reasons why Herma Marksman still looks back fondly on the 10 years she spent as the mistress of Hugo Chavez, who at the time was an ambitious lieutenant-colonel on his way to becoming the president of Venezuela.
“I keep the best memories of him close to me,” Marksman said last week. “He’s the kind of man that showers you with flowers and chocolates, serenades you with romantic songs and never forgets your birthday. People say he is a violent man, but he never raised a hand or his voice to me.”

Yet Marksman’s tone changed when she talked about his role as the leader of the so-called Bolivarian revolution — the populist Latin American phenomenon that has turned Chavez into a global icon of anti-American agitation.

For almost a decade in the 1980s and 1990s, Marksman encouraged her military lover as he used her home to plot a coup against Venezuela’s decadent civilian government. The couple shared a dream, she said, of “a prosperous Venezuela where justice would reign”.

That dream, for her at least, is shattered. “Now you can’t trust him,” she went on bitterly in her first interview with any foreign media. “He is imposing a fascist dictatorship. A totalitarian regime is coming because he doesn’t believe in democratic institutions. Hugo controls all the powers.”

It would be easy to dismiss Marksman’s criticisms as the vengeance of a scorned woman. Chavez once begged her to marry him and promised to leave his wife. But the 1992 coup attempt turned him into a national celebrity, even though it failed and he was briefly jailed.

Emerging as a champion of the Venezuelan underclass, he was surrounded by adoring women. He split with both his wife and his mistress; later a second marriage also ended in separation.

Yet Marksman, now in her mid-fifties, is scarcely an angry ex-bimbo keen to slag off the man who dumped her. She is a professor of history who has written two books about Chavez’s politics.

During our interview she called him “sweet” and “kind” as a lover. But as a president, she added, “he’s the caudillo (strongman) you have to say yes to. At the rate he’s going, his end can only be violent”.

Somewhere between charm and menace lurks the real Chavez. The president who will sit down in London tomorrow for lunch with Ken Livingstone, the mayor, has made more headlines around the world than any South American icon since Evita Peron.

Yet rarely has any world leader — least of all one elected democratically — proved quite so hard to define.

“Is Chavez another Fidel Castro?” asked Alberto Garrido, a Caracas political scientist. “Is he a 19th-century caudillo? Or is he a Peron with oil? Venezuelans debate this continuously, and all we know for certain is that the Chavez phenomenon is different from everything that has gone before.”

In one sense, Chavez’s emergence as a rude and occasionally bellicose voice of South America’s downtrodden is easy to understand. If you take a ride on the gleamingly efficient Caracas metro — a model of 21st-century urban transport — and then take a dilapidated bus to the barrio slums — a model of 19th-century neglect — you arrive at a small supermarket in La Vega run by Ingrid Cordoba.

Three years ago this was a bare patch of land used as a sports field. Then Chavez arrived with a pocketful of booming Venezuelan oil profits and began what he called his evangelical “missions” to transform the lives of the poor.

Suddenly, in parts of the city that governments had for decades ignored, there were new health clinics, Cuban doctors, subsidised mercals (food markets) and literacy programmes — one named after Robinson Crusoe, one of Chavez’s favourite books.

Among the shoppers at Cordoba’s mercal was Josefina Anton, a community activist who has met Chavez three times on his regular visits to the slums. “They were beautiful, beautiful visits,” she said. “The day he was elected president (in 1998) was the first I ever felt that I had a part in the government.

“No president before Chavez ever talked to poor people, or ever took us into account.”

Cordoba added: “We owe this shop to Chavez.”

At a private briefing for diplomats last week, a leading Caracas opinion pollster calculated that of the 10m votes likely to be cast in a presidential election in December, Chavez could win up to 7m, mostly from people like Anton who regard him as a hero of the poor.

While President George W Bush and Tony Blair languish with the lowest poll ratings of their respective careers, their most vociferous Latin American critic is heading for a 70% victory. He has threatened to stay in power until 2030 and beyond.



Yet a little further along the choked streets of La Vega, a different picture emerges. In a shaded square next to a statue of Simon Bolivar — the anti- colonial liberator after whom Chavez’s revolution is named — a group of about 100 people waited last week for the arrival of three food lorries promised by the municipality. Every three months, under yet another of Chavez’s programmes, the poorest of the poor are given food.

One lorry came in mid- afternoon and those at the front of the queue departed with their sacks of rice and beans. But by 4.30pm, the hour that municipal workers go home, the other two lorries had not arrived. Was it bureaucratic incompetence or corruption? Nobody knew for sure, but few present were in a mood to sing Chavez’s praises.

“My shanty is falling apart. I don’t have a stable job. How is Chavez helping me?” complained Veronica Marcano, a mother of six children who gets occasional work as a municipal cleaner.

Venezuela’s opposition leaders claim that behind the facade of a supposedly flourishing welfare programme, Chavez has done nothing to improve a civic infrastructure riddled with fraud and ineptitude. “In Venezuela they say we have no good presidents or bad presidents,” said Julio Borges, an opposition candidate in December’s poll. “We have presidents who either benefit from high oil prices or suffer from low oil prices.

“Chavez had the luck to be a president with high oil revenues, but he’s like a man who wins the lottery and at the end he spends it all and turns out more broke than before.”

Other critics — notably in Washington — point to Venezuela’s soaring levels of violent crime and drug trafficking, and to Chavez’s failure to curb a notoriously brutal police force that human rights activists blame for much of the violence. Caracas now has the world’s highest murder rate per capita.

There’s no sign yet that voters are blaming Chavez but opponents have noted that some of his most popular initiatives depend heavily on the import of manpower from Cuba.

Western officials acknowledge that the price of oil is unlikely to fall significantly any time soon, and with Venezuela controlling the largest oil reserves in the western hemisphere — and supplying America with 15% of its oil needs — no early escape is likely from the man who has turned Bush-baiting into a national sport.

One western diplomat concluded: “He has brought these people things they have not seen before, but I don’t believe he is building a long-term sustainable base. If those oil prices do fall, how are you going to say to those mercal customers, ‘sorry, we’re running out of money, we can’t give you cheap food any more’?” Chavez has used Venezuela’s oil fortune to buy influence and annoy America in countries around the globe. He has cosied up to North Korea — which is planning to move its sole Latin American embassy from Peru to Caracas — fuelling concerns in Washington that North Korean weapons may start to circulate a couple of hours’ flying time south of Miami.

He has also improved relations with Iran, provoking feverish intelligence warnings that terrorists may converge on the region through Venezuela’s back door. All this has served to cement his power base in the Venezuelan barrios, which are only too happy to blame America for their ills, and turned him into an heroic figure for countless Europeans and others still furious at Washington over Iraq.

Yet Chavez’s efforts to expand his revolution and to build a new “Bolivarian” alliance of regional anti-imperialists are not going smoothly. There is a growing sense across the continent that Chavez has become a dangerous irritant, and an obstacle to Latin American development.

In Peru, the nationalist presidential candidate that Chavez publicly endorsed has plummeted in the polls. Ollanta Humala has been forced to distance himself from Venezuela. Humala’s wife, Nadine, publicly declared last week that Chavez had a “loose mouth”.

Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, a Mexican presidential candidate linked to Chavez, is also losing ground in the polls. The president of Guatemala has publicly criticised Chavez, Brazilian officials complained about Venezuelan oil policies and there was even criticism in Bolivia of his closest ally, President Evo Morales, who recently flew to a summit in Brazil on a Venezuelan plane. The former Bolivian president, Jorge Quiroga, warned that Bolivia was beginning to look like a colony of Venezuela.

Chavez is best-known for his weekly television programme, Allo Presidente. It is part variety show slapstick — with Chavez breaking into song and discussing rumours about his love life — and part presidential pulpit. Chavez also uses the show to bash his critics and to make political announcements.

This bizarre combination of popular exhibitionism — Chavez cavorts across the airwaves for up to seven hours every Sunday — and intense political secrecy are a key part of the Chavez mystique. Is he a dictator or a democrat? Is he a caudillo or a clown ? A senior official who studies Chavez closely wearily shook his head. “He could be having three women a night at the presidential palace or be celibate as a priest and we wouldn’t have a clue,” he said. “It is astonishing how much of his work is done in secrecy and how little the people of Venezuela really know about his life, what he’s doing and who he is speaking to.”



Marksman is one of the few Venezuelans who have seen Chavez up close. It is plain she still aches for the sweetness she knew, the ballads he sang for her, and the “harmony and companionship” they shared.

But she no longer watches Allo Presidente. Marksman now believes that Chavez “disguised himself as little Red Riding Hood and turned out to be the wolf”.


Additional reporting: Flora Bagenal

SAYINGS OF CHAVEZ


Mr Blair, you are an imperialist pawn who attempts to curry favour with Danger Bush-Hitler, the number one mass murderer and assassin there is on the planet

If someone is sleeping together it is Bush and Blair. They share the same bed.

I hereby accuse the North American empire of being the biggest menace to our planet

Capitalism leads us straight to hell Fidel, I think you were always right: it’s socialism or death

BRITAIN'S CARACAS FAN CLUB

The mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, is far from being the only British leftwinger to have succumbed to the charms of Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, who arrives in London today to promote his populist revolution, write Tony Allen-Mills and Tom Walker.

A steady stream of British leftists clinging to dreams of workers’ rule have been turning up in Caracas.

Among recent visitors was Keith Douglas, 60, an optician from Hertfordshire who told his hosts he regarded Cuba’s Fidel Castro as “one of the few giants of the 20th century . . .
I don’t think you should be ashamed that he is influencing Chavez”.

At a meeting videotaped by a Venezuelan participant, Douglas complained that the British media were “almost totally biased” against Chavez and that the only newspaper to give a balanced view was the Morning Star, the communist daily.

At the same meeting Geoffrey Bottoms, a Catholic priest from Lancaster, called Britain “an imperialist state” where the people felt “disenfranchised”.

Chavez has also attracted the support of 11 MPs who have launched the Labour Friends of Venezuela group, comprising mostly leftwingers critical of Tony Blair. Among them Colin Burgon warned Blair that it was foolhardy to blackball the world’s fifth largest oil producer at a time of rising energy prices.

“It’s a deliberate process emanating from Washington,” he said. “But the bloke is human and doing good things and should be judged on that record.”

Another Chavez enthusiast, Jeremy Corbyn, well known for his anti-Iraq war views, said the man who once called George W Bush an “asshole” and described Blair as “the main ally of Hitler” for supporting the US president had “played a huge role in political change with his anti-poverty drives and the redistribution of oil resources”.

The Labour MP added: “He’s promoted healthcare and education and is providing lessons for everybody — our own dear leader could examine the process.”




http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2179460_1,00.html
 

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First Venez Oil Shipment Arrives in Haiti

Port-Au-Prince, May 15 (Prensa Latina) The first shipment of Venezuelan oil under the Petrocaribe energy supply program for the Caribbean Basin arrived in Haiti.

The oil tanker Neptuno brought 40,000 barrels of gas and 60,000 of diesel, a part of which will be donated to operate the local hospitals' boilers.

Venezuela will also donate asphalt for 12 months with which a Brazilian contingent will pave the streets.

Venezuelan Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel signed the official agreement Sunday with President Rene Preval under which Venezuela will make daily supplies of 11,000 oil barrels.

Rangel said Petrocaribe will channel 7,000 barrels and the other 4,000 will reach under the 1980 San Jose Agreement that secures oil supplies and promote development of its six signatories.
 

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<font size="5"><center>Chavez's Likely Political Foe
Will Exploit Enemies List</font size></center>

Monisha Bansal
Staff Writer

(CNSNews.com) - If Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is re-elected in December, it will likely be at the expense of the one candidate most opposed to the Chavez brand of government.

Julio Borges, a member of the Primero Justicia Party (Justice First), leads his closest competitor, Gov. Manuel Rosales, 43 to 27 percent among Venezuelans who say they would vote in a primary, according to a new poll by the U.S. firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner.

Borges is a former member of the National Assembly. He left office in May 2005 to campaign for president and now plans to use Chavez's exclusionary attitudes and what many consider the Venezuelan leader's other divisive actions as a campaign tool.

"Julio Borges and Primero Justicia have acquired an impressive following in a short period," said Mark Feierstein, associate vice president at Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, who conducted the survey.

"Borges would clearly be the strongest candidate against Chavez," he added.

Among Borges' campaign strategies is to pledge support to those who have been included on a widely available list of Chavez's enemies.

The "Maisantas list" has the names of people who either signed a petition to recall Chavez in 2004 or subsequently voted against him in the recall referendum, which Chavez survived. Individuals on the list have allegedly been denied jobs, government services and even health care as a result of opposing Chavez.

"I support all those Venezuelans who are persecuted, threatened or political prisoners in the country, for expressing ideas against the government," said Borges in an interview with the Venezuelan news outlet El Aragueno on Monday.

According to the survey, 51 percent say they have "suffered repercussions of voting for the referendum."

Feierstein said the "Maisantas list" is an example of how Chavez has divided his country. "Venezuela is a very polarized country. I've never seen any figure as polarizing as Chavez," he told Cybercast News Service.

Chavez has spent huge sums of money to intervene in the politics of other Latin American countries and to align himself with anti-American figures like Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Feierstein stated.

As a result, Chavez is "quite vulnerable on a couple issues," he said.

"Crime and unemployment are skyrocketing. Caracas is the most dangerous city in the hemisphere. Job creation is slow. Also, his meddling in the affairs of other countries is not very popular," according to Feierstein.

Borges is also concerned about Chavez's foreign investments.

"In the first place, we should make it clear that the government does not think about Venezuelans," Borges noted. "Lamentably, this government spends money on gifts to other countries and traveling.

In the past 12 months, Chavez has given $20 billion to 36 different countries," said Borges, naming some of Chavez's pet projects in Latin America. "He thinks of other countries first."

Borges has called for Venezuela's large sums of oil revenue (Chavez has nationalized his country's oil industry) to instead be given to the Venezuelan people, 47 percent of whom live below the poverty line.

But Feierstein warned that Chavez is still strong and would be a difficult politician to topple. He added that Chavez's chances are helped by the recent Latin American trend to re-elect leaders like those in Colombia, Chile and Mexico.

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1401585.html
 

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From: Center for African American Policy


<font size="5"><center>A MISSED OPPORTUNITY</font size></center>


We sense a tremendous political opportunity being missed by the Congressional Black Caucus and others within the Black political establishment over the evolving crisis in Cuba and Venezuela. There is a discomforting amount of inactivity and silence on the part of African American political leadership that is causing us real concern.

There is the expected rhetoric from anti-Castro exiles and first generation Cuban Americans who feel that Cuba’s vast economic potential is still largely untapped due to the stubborn Communist junta. The Latino community, naturally, is abuzz with speculation, doubt and cautious excitement over the newly formed alliance between the aging Fidel Castro and his bombastic Venezuelan Socialist partner Hugo Chavez. While the Bush Administration sweats bullets over the ramifications of such an alliance in our Caribbean “backyard,” the world is stunned by the ability of both despots to outflank the U.S. in a war of heated words and snubs. This is partly due to the current geopolitical situation; but, much of it is due to dependence on Venezuelan oil output, which accounts for 13 percent of daily oil imports in the United States. Venezuela’s state-owned CITGO runs 14,000 gas stations in the U.S. alone. An alliance with Chavez not only provides a valuable political asset, but an insurance policy should there be any future mulling of U.S. military action against the “renegade” Communist Caribbean state.

But, we hear little from the Black public policy establishment in terms of a viable strategy that addresses this critical crossroad of diplomatic détente. Certainly, this is a “Black issue” because both Cuba and Venezuela are major parts of the African Diaspora. Venezuela Blacks descended from African slaves constitute more than 10 percent of the population, clustered primarily in the coastal Barlovento region. Chavez himself is a mix of Amerindian, African and Spanish ancestry. And Cuba, the rogue gem of the Caribbean, is a country mostly comprised of “mulattoes” or mixed-race persons of color. More than 15 percent of the population considers itself “Black” or of “African ancestry,” many dating their origins back to the Yoruba, Congo, Mandingo and Fula legacies of Western Africa. Both Cuba and Venezuela are but a fraction of the Afro-Latin American universe; that doesn’t include the massive Black populations in neighboring Colombia, Brazil, Dominican Republic, Peru and others, all experiencing recent political trends suggesting serious changes in leadership that will impact U.S. policy in South and Central America. Given the demographics, cultural connections and the enormous economic consequences at stake, wouldn’t it be in the best interests of the Congressional Black Caucus and others to help facilitate U.S. policy surrounding these two countries?

Castro and Chavez are partly the reason for Bush touting the benefits of alternative fuel sources and hybrid vehicles. Last week’s State of the Union did not reflect an environmentalist epiphany on the President’s part – it merely suggested a realization that American oil supplies could be severely cornered and stalled. Hence, the desperate need for a plan. The Administration must, publicly, save face since it is not accustomed to humility. Therefore, better to continue propping a cool shoulder against the new “Dynamic Duo of Evil” than to negotiate friendlier terms, such as Venezuela taxing foreign oil companies drilling in their country. The spitting will continue.

But, the CBC could exercise newfound leverage within Congress, the White House, K Street and throughout by forging organized ties with Caribbean and Afro-Latin in the U.S. and using those relationships as a platform to engage both Chavez and Castro regimes. Legislation could follow that outlines a reasonable economic or political solution. This may not solve the crisis in the immediate future, but it could ease tensions in such a way as to significantly raise the profile, respect and influence of Black political leadership.

Enter the Congressional Black Caucus … or not. It seems the burden of this issue rests on the shoulders of a lone Black entertainer from the Caribbean who stands aside Chavez and Castro in bitter tirades against the U.S. Our problem stems from the perception that this is the extent of informed Black or African American foreign policy in the Caribbean and Latin American. It’s reasonable to assume Harry Belafonte can say whatever he wants – but, is there quiet reliance on an aging musician-turned-activist to offer coherent discourse and public policy on the subject? We hope that’s not the case.

http://www.blackpolicy.org/resources/editorial2806.html
 

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<font size="5"><center>Chavez seeks Russian jets to bolster air power</font size></center>

Reuters
By Patrick Markey

CARACAS (Venezuela): Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez travels to Russia this month seeking to buy 24 Sukhoi SU-30 combat aircraft that analysts say could make Venezuela one of South America’s most potent air forces.

A deal for the modern, long-range jets complete with weapons, training and maintenance would cost Chavez nearly $1 billion as the former soldier beefs up his military and worries US officials who already consider him a regional menace.

Chavez, a Cuba ally in a stand-off with Washington, says the new jets were needed to replace US-made F-16 fighters after Washington banned sales of US weaponry to Caracas, citing Chavez’s ties to Cuba and Iran.

Military experts say the Russian aircraft, if the deal goes through, would put Venezuela on par with Chile’s advanced air force in terms of hardware, but said it would take several years of training and configuring equipment such as radars for Venezuela to make the most of such jets.

“It depends on how they arm the SU-30s. A full armaments fit will make them much more capable than anything in the region with the exception of Chile’s new F-16,” said Tom Baranauskas at US consultancy Forecast International.

Two Sukhoi SU-30MK jets arrived in Venezuela from Russia over the weekend for a demonstration during Venezuela’s July 5 independence day parade where the government also put on show its recently purchased Russian helicopters and new AK-103 Kalashnikov rifles.

Critics question why Venezuela would need such a high-performance jet and US officials have already said they will seek to talk Russia out of making the sale.

But Chavez has ordered troops to train to repel a possible US invasion of Venezuela, the world’s No. 5 oil exporter. Washington dismisses that as saber-rattling from a strongman using his country’s petroleum wealth to spread what Washington calls an anti-democratic message.

He has steadily moved Venezuela away from its traditional alliance with the United States and curbed US military cooperation even while still selling most of the country’s oil to US markets.

Chavez even said recently that he could imagine the jets firing missiles at a US aircraft carrier off Venezuela’s main La Guaira port on the Caribbean coast.

“A Sukhoi jet could attack an invading navy floating off La Guaira and they don’t miss, my brother,” he said.

Venezuela was the first South American country to receive US F-16 fighters when it bought 24 fighters in 1982. Experts say the government has 21 of the jets but estimate only 10 are in service.

The SU-30MK aircraft is a highly mobile, two-seater jet used for ground and naval strikes, experts said. China, Indonesia and India all use SU-30 variants.

“This is the heaviest fighter sold south of the border ever,” said Richard Aboulafia at Teal Group aerospace and defense consultancy. “But repairing, maintaining and training with these planes is a different story.”

For Russia, the jet deal is a good source of export income and the Kremlin generally brushes off Washington’s concerns over its weapons sales as attempts to freeze it out of the arms market, said Steven Pifer with Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

“This means the Brazilians will probably think about buying similar weapons, the Argentines will think the same, so will the Peruvians and the Chileans,” said Enrique Obando, president of Lima’s IDEPE security think tank.

“Now there will be a weapon with a capacity that didn’t exist before.”—Reuters

http://www.dawn.com/2006/07/09/int9.htm
 

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is it me or is this game getting boring?

venezuela wont stop selling oil to america.
america wont stop buying oil from venezuela.

whats the point other than that.
 

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Greed said:
is it me or is this game getting boring?

venezuela wont stop selling oil to america.
america wont stop buying oil from venezuela.

whats the point other than that.




U.S. aid stirring suspicion in Venezuela
8/26/2006


CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — The U.S. government is spending millions of dollars in the name of democracy in Venezuela — bankrolling human rights seminars, training emerging leaders, advising political parties and giving to charities. But the money is raising deep suspicions among supporters of President Hugo Chavez, in part because the U.S. has refused to name many of the groups it's supporting.
Details of the spending emerge in 1,600 pages of grant contracts obtained by The Associated Press through a Freedom of Information Act request. The U.S. Agency for International Development released copies of 132 contracts in all, but whited out the names and other identifying details of nearly half the grantees.

U.S. officials insist the aid is aboveboard and politically neutral, and say the Chavez government would harass or prosecute the grant recipients if they were identified.

Chavez, however, believes the United States is campaigning — overtly and covertly — to undermine his leftist government, which has crusaded against U.S. influence in Latin America and elsewhere.

"The empire pays its lackeys, and it pays them well," he said recently, accusing some of his opponents of taking "gringo money."

While USAID oversees much of the public U.S. spending on Latin America, President Bush's government also has stepped up covert efforts in the region. This month, Washington named a career CIA agent as the "mission manager" to oversee U.S. intelligence on Cuba and Venezuela.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-08-26-us-aid-venezuela_x.htm
 

Makkonnen

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I wonder how the US would feel about a presidential or congressional candidate trained or funded by Venezuela

:hmm:
 
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