Is It In The Best Interest Of The GOP/Libertarians For Them To Sabotage the Economy?

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Bad question, as the republicans and libertarians have different political philosophies. You know that. Act like it.
 

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Bad question, as the republicans and libertarians have different political philosophies. You know that. Act like it.

Name a libertarian in congress that is not a republican? You'll disappear.
 

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Last time I checked, Dems run 2/3's of the government.
 

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Name a libertarian in congress that is not a republican? You'll disappear.

There is only one that claims to be, I believe, Ron Paul.

Yet, I don't think he is a true libertarian because he obviously believes in the Federal Government and the 2-party political process enough to participate.

No true libertarian would win, or last more than 1 term, in Congress.
 

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Both Pauls are Republicans.

It's not in the best interest of the Republican constituency but apparently they feel it is in the best political interest of the Republican Party to do everything possible to hinder recovery. While the private sector has been gaining jobs for well over a year, the public sector has been shedding jobs at a faster rate and it was Republicans leading the charge to cut aid to states, forcing them to have massive layoffs.
It was the Republicans who were most vocal about not making loans to GM and Chrysler. Not out of some philosophical stance about private industry and big government but to destroy the automaker unions. Those two companies sudden collapse would have had a huge effect nationwide, not just in Michigan.
The most important thing to them right now is defeating Barack Obama, the rest of the country be damned.
 

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Name a libertarian in congress that is not a republican? You'll disappear.

They use the party the same way socialists use the Democratic party. They use the parties "umbrella" so that a wider audience is more likely to pay attention. In case you haven't noticed, third party candidates have not done well in the past several decades.

And,as a reminder, the Tea Party started in opposition to Bush, not Obama.
 

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They use the party the same way socialists use the Democratic party. They use the parties "umbrella" so that a wider audience is more likely to pay attention. In case you haven't noticed, third party candidates have not done well in the past several decades.

And,as a reminder, the Tea Party started in opposition to Bush, not Obama.

There are socialists in the Democratic Party? Oh yeah, there are, just like they're in the Republican Party.

That incarnation of the "Tea Party" has been co-opted by this current purely hard Right Republican version.
 

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There is only one that claims to be, I believe, Ron Paul.

Yet, I don't think he is a true libertarian because he obviously believes in the Federal Government and the 2-party political process enough to participate.

No true libertarian would win, or last more than 1 term, in Congress.



Name a libertarian in congress that is not a republican?

There is only one that claims to be, I believe, Ron Paul.

Your witness.
 

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They use the party the same way socialists use the Democratic party. They use the parties "umbrella" so that a wider audience is more likely to pay attention. In case you haven't noticed, third party candidates have not done well in the past several decades.

And,as a reminder, the Tea Party started in opposition to Bush, not Obama.

They use the party the same way socialists use the Democratic party

Their is only one declared socialist in congress, Senator Bernie Sanders and he is NOT a member of the Democratic party. Your rhetoric and hyperbole further cement your reputation as a radical ideologue.
 

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what's ignorant about that?

Educate me ole proud liberal...

Where and how are the economics bills originated, according to the Constitution?

Do the Conservatives currently have a stranglehold on the Supreme Court?
 

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Where and how are the economics bills originated, according to the Constitution?

Do the Conservatives currently have a stranglehold on the Supreme Court?

who can veto the economics bill? Not to mention, there's no line item veto.

Honestly, it's down the middle supreme court wise. OH wait, you're a leftist, so it's going to always be "conservative". :smh::smh::smh:
 

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who can veto the economics bill? Not to mention, there's no line item veto.

Honestly, it's down the middle supreme court wise. OH wait, you're a leftist, so it's going to always be "conservative". :smh::smh::smh:

The Supreme Court is not "down the middle" it is a hard right leaning conservative court.
 

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If the 'average' person thought in terms of social class instead of political party we could change this country get it to where it should be socially, politically and economically.
 

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who can veto the economics bill? Not to mention, there's no line item veto.

Honestly, it's down the middle supreme court wise. OH wait, you're a leftist, so it's going to always be "conservative". :smh::smh::smh:



who can veto the economics bill? Not to mention, there's no line item veto.

Not the question I asked

Honestly, it's down the middle supreme court wise. OH wait, you're a leftist, so it's going to always be "conservative".


Oh I forgot, for you 5, 4 conservative is down the middle. Kennedy is not liberal!
 

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If the 'average' person thought in terms of social class instead of political party we could change this country get it to where it should be socially, politically and economically.


How true, but then the right wing would claim class warfare even though they are winning.
 

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If the 'average' person thought in terms of social class instead of political party we could change this country get it to where it should be socially, politically and economically.

True.

How true, but then the right wing would claim class warfare even though they are winning.

Yep. That's how they do it every time.
 

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Are they wrong?



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:smh:

Bernanke can bypass everyone and begin QE3, without congressional approval. Stop buying into this left vs right BS, Bernanke holds the REAL power

QE2 alone, was approx $600 Billion
 

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Wait a minute..........Wait a minute............Do we need another Stimulus?
 

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Their is only one declared socialist in congress, Senator Bernie Sanders and he is NOT a member of the Democratic party. Your rhetoric and hyperbole further cement your reputation as a radical ideologue.

Pay attention to what I highlighted. There are many in the Democratic party who are very socialistic by applying the standard.

And the name calling suits you, as that is all you can do with facts. Your arguements have shown themselves to be empty, the liberal econimic patterns have shown themselves to be bankrupt, so there is nothing else you can do but blame the messenger. It is so predictable and vapid as to be laughable.

And before you go on another one of your Rachael Maddow hyperbole littered diatribes, both those with R and D after thier names have done the same thing.

However, I fully expect you to drive right over it and get back to the name calling, because that is all you can do.
 

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Pay attention to what I highlighted. There are many in the Democratic party who are very socialistic by applying the standard..



You prove me correct every time you post. I give you fact, you give me opinion.
 

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Not the question I asked




Oh I forgot, for you 5, 4 conservative is down the middle. Kennedy is not liberal!

Kennedy isn't a conservative either..

You ask an asinine question about congress able to stop bills. I answered by saying that the president can block what congress makes. So can the senate *which is democratic majority*. The template you are trying to push is that the mean ole republicans have more power than both the Senate, and the President. In which, is not the case. Now, if the democrats are scared of the republicans, you might need to discuss that with the party you support. It's not my sides fault that your side tends to have periods every month....
 

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Wait a minute..........Wait a minute............Do we need another Stimulus?

Need one? We got one with the compromise Obama made with the Republicans to extend the Bush tax cuts. While everyone on the Left was looking at it as a defeat, they missed all the stuff Obama got in small business, middle class and working class tax cuts and benefits and unemployment benefits extension. The second Stimulus will end up being bigger than the first. Unfortunately, since it's almost all tax cuts, it'll have far less bang for the buck.
 

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Kennedy isn't a conservative either..

You ask an asinine question about congress able to stop bills. I answered by saying that the president can block what congress makes. So can the senate *which is democratic majority*. The template you are trying to push is that the mean ole republicans have more power than both the Senate, and the President. In which, is not the case. Now, if the democrats are scared of the republicans, you might need to discuss that with the party you support. It's not my sides fault that your side tends to have periods every month....


Kennedy isn't a conservative either..

The hell he ain't! he sides with the Conservatives 75% of the time. What does that make him?

It's not my sides fault that your side tends to have periods every month....

So you admit that disrupting the peoples business for confrontational reasons is in the republican's best interest. Your trying not to answer answered the question.
 

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The premise of your question is invalid therefore any answers would be invalid.
I.E stop asking dumb questions. The Motherfucker sabotaging the economy is Obama!
He is counting on dumb fucks like you who are employed in Government Jobs, or on the Union doll, or on the public doll to come on out and vote for more goodies...

Those of us in the know know what's up. Hopefully the motherfucker is landfucking slided and we can put progressive politics in the dustbin of history.
 

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The premise of your question is invalid therefore any answers would be invalid.
I.E stop asking dumb questions. The Motherfucker sabotaging the economy is Obama!
He is counting on dumb fucks like you who are employed in Government Jobs, or on the Union doll, or on the public doll to come on out and vote for more goodies...

Those of us in the know know what's up. Hopefully the motherfucker is landfucking slided and we can put progressive politics in the dustbin of history.

Sorry. This chrome browser aint shit.
 

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The hell he ain't! he sides with the Conservatives 75% of the time. What does that make him?



So you admit that disrupting the peoples business for confrontational reasons is in the republican's best interest. Your trying not to answer answered the question.

Perhaps, the conservatives actually went with the constitution on most of the rulings? Kennedy is less conservative than Scolia *splchk*, or Thomas. Most conservatives would not count on Kennedy's vote.

Sounds like you're explaining Democrat policies during 2007. If we're going to talk about how congress can mess up an economy, we need to talk about 2007. I remember saying the same thing about the economy was being sabotaged by the Democrat house/senate. Yet, you ignored that, and blame Bush. So, with this thread, is this an attempt of a backhanded compliment? I mean, if you just can't say "Actin you was right!" I understand... I mean, I know it would be hard for Obama to say "Bush, you're policies were right... So right, I want to implement nearly ALL of them in MY term." Being wrong is bad for political business. Especially if you're a die hard liberal, such as yourself. I know it's hard to deal with....
 

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Perhaps, the conservatives actually went with the constitution on most of the rulings? Kennedy is less conservative than Scolia *splchk*, or Thomas. Most conservatives would not count on Kennedy's vote.

Sounds like you're explaining Democrat policies during 2007. If we're going to talk about how congress can mess up an economy, we need to talk about 2007. I remember saying the same thing about the economy was being sabotaged by the Democrat house/senate. Yet, you ignored that, and blame Bush. So, with this thread, is this an attempt of a backhanded compliment? I mean, if you just can't say "Actin you was right!" I understand... I mean, I know it would be hard for Obama to say "Bush, you're policies were right... So right, I want to implement nearly ALL of them in MY term." Being wrong is bad for political business. Especially if you're a die hard liberal, such as yourself. I know it's hard to deal with....

Kennedy is less conservative than Scolia *splchk*, or Thomas.

So now he "less" conservative. First you said he wasn't a conservative. Kennedy was appointed by your hero, Reagan. Do you think Reagan would appoint anything but a conservative? Do you actually reason through you thoughts, or just give the Limbaugh talking points a fast lane in your brain to your mouth?

I remember saying the same thing about the economy was being sabotaged by the Democrat house/senate. Yet, you ignored that, and blame Bush

You still trying to revise the Bush years. Just one statement to blow you circuit breakers; what was the economy like when Bush took office and then what was it like when President Obama took office?


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So now he "less" conservative. First you said he wasn't a conservative. Kennedy was appointed by your hero, Reagan. Do you think Reagan would appoint anything but a conservative? Do you actually reason through you thoughts, or just give the Limbaugh talking points a fast lane in your brain to your mouth?



You still trying to revise the Bush years. Just one statement to blow you circuit breakers; what was the economy like when Bush took office and then what was it like when President Obama took office?


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Reading is fundamental. I said less conservative THAN Thomas, and Scolia.


Obama ran on fixing the economy. Thus, your question is flawed.

Now, which one is it going to be? Is it the president fault, or is it Congress's fault? You can't have it both ways.

If you going to blame congress, then you need to blame Pelosi in 2007 for not fixing Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. Do you really want that debate?
 
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