Heat Sign Gary Payton

RunawaySlave

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Payton signs one-year deal with Heat</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER height="1" width="1" type="block"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer
September 22, 2005

MIAMI (AP) -- Once again, Gary Payton couldn't turn down Shaquille O'Neal. Payton signed a $1.1 million, one-year contract with the Miami Heat on Thursday -- a move that begins a reunion with O'Neal, who lured him to the Los Angeles Lakers two seasons ago for what ultimately was a failed title run. Now the duo is determined to get Payton -- a nine-time All-Star entering his 16th NBA season -- his first title.

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"We want to win basketball games, and not let our egos get in the way,'' said Payton, the latest big-name addition to join the Heat this offseason. "Everybody on this team has, at one point, been a star or a starter or a bigger part of their team. ... We have to understand that we are talking about wins, not who is going to have the points.''



Payton averaged 11.3 points and 6.1 assists for Boston last season, then became a free agent -- and O'Neal said he was "the only guy in the world'' that could help Payton win a title.

Apparently, Payton agreed.

"We're very close, and when he steps up for me like that, it's hard to tell him no,'' said Payton, who played with Seattle in the 1996 Finals against Chicago, then returned to the title series with the Lakers two seasons ago -- losing both times.

Miami will be Payton's fifth team, and he comes with career averages of 17.6 points, 7.2 assists and 2.0 steals. He's third on the NBA's all-time steals list (2,331), sixth in assists (8,508), 12th in minutes played (43,309) and 25th in points (20,829).

Payton and Jason Williams -- another new addition -- will be the team's primary point guards entering training camp, which opens Oct. 4.

"We are very fortunate to have been able to acquire a player of Gary Payton's stature,'' Heat president Pat Riley said. "He is a proven veteran and will be a big addition to this team.''

Miami lost starting point guard Damon Jones to Cleveland earlier this summer; Jones signed a four-year, $16.1 million free-agent deal. With Williams and Payton, the Heat believe they've improved markedly at the point over last year, when Keyon Dooling -- another free-agent departure, to Orlando -- backed up Damon Jones.

Including playoffs, Payton has played in 1,315 games; he's started all but six of them. Yet he may be a reserve in Miami, something that he's apparently fine with.

"I'm going to try to help Jason as much as possible,'' Payton said. "He has never had a guy like me to guide him. When I come into camp, I'm going to try to help him. I'm not going to try to beat him up or beat him down.''

Williams came to Miami along with forwards James Posey and Antoine Walker in a 13-player, five-team deal earlier this summer -- one where Miami gave up swingman Eddie Jones, another starter from the team that won 59 games last season and posted the Eastern Conference's best regular-season record.

But that team fell short in the conference finals against Detroit, and Riley made major changes -- something that didn't necessarily surprise Payton.

"Look at Pat. He's won championships and he knows what to do to get that extra oomph,'' Payton said. "Pat probably realized he didn't have that ... and he needed somebody who could make big plays at critical times.''

Payton said he doesn't expect this to be his final season, although he acknowledged that winning a championship could spark a change in that plan.

He believes he could play as many as three more years, yet his sense of urgency to win a championship is stronger than ever.

"We have a lot of new guys coming in that are going to have to learn the system,'' Payton said. "And we are going to have to get it together right away. I think that is where a lot of people are concerned about us. We have a good shot, we have a lot of talent here and we have to get cohesive very quickly.''



Updated on Thursday, Sep 22, 2005 7:19 pm EDT
 

freaky_1

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Well there goes thier championship chance this year. No team will wina title with Gary Payton on thier team. I said that in 94 and it holds true today. D. Wade has to wait another year, sorry man.
 

RunawaySlave

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I'm just curious to see how they are going to work out this lineup.
With Shaq, Wade, Antoine Walker, Payton and Jayson Williams...
It looks to me like Riley is trying to SABATOUGE Van Gundy, so he
will fail and Riley can take over. it won't matter though, because
Riley's shit just doesn't work. It hasn't produced any titles since
Magic past his prime back in the 80's
 

cranrab

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one more signing to be made?

the only question mark left in my mind regarding that roster is the backup 2 slot...

1. payton/willams
2. wade/?
3. posey/anderson
4. haslem/walker
5. o'neal/doleac

i gotta believe the O is gonna change this year, becoming more simplified with all the new faces, and that the heat will sign another player who can play the 2 before the regular season starts...
 

RunawaySlave

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Don't think it's a given that GP starts over JW. Also, they will
definitely need a big guard to spell Wade, because with those
two at the point, you won't be able to count on them for any
rebounds or inside defense. Miami runs the risk of wearing
Wade out if it stays this way....They MIGHT throw Posey in the
backup SG spot.....


I don't see this combo working....Shaq will have to be a monster
with Walker at PF. He's already a health risk. He'll have to do
ALL the inside work if Walker plays 30+ minutes. I felt much
better about Miami's chances last year than this one
 

SpiritualPorn

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cranrab said:

There is more BBAll knowledge on BGOL than on the whole ESPN crew.

They never mentioned the fact that Payton SHUT BILLUPS THE FUCK DOWN.

Whenever Billups got it going a little Payton would come off the bench and Billups would get quiet.

Billups has been exposed as slow on DFENSE and a system player.
 

RunawaySlave

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Don't overlook the contribution of Udonis Haslem either
He has taken all the pressure off of Antoine Walker's
having to play in the paint.

Walker is now free to play the SG. The position he
always seems to end up playing anyway


No way Pat can fuck this one up. Thank Flip Saunders
I mean, thank god
 

cranrab

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RunawaySlave said:
Don't overlook the contribution of Udonis Haslem either
He has taken all the pressure off of Antoine Walker's
having to play in the paint.

i like udonis haslem's upside: rebounding, effort, hustle, decent mid range shot.

BUT his token hedge on screen roll plays is DISGUSTING. :puke:

he doesn't guard the opponent, he guards a space on the floor. it's the defensive equivalent of setting a pick on a space on the floor instead of setting a pick on a specific opponent.
 

ronmch20

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freaky_1 said:
Well there goes thier championship chance this year. No team will wina title with Gary Payton on thier team. I said that in 94 and it holds true today. D. Wade has to wait another year, sorry man.
Co-sign. That little scubul head biotch always startin' and talkin' shit. Somebody needs to knock his little ass the fuck out.
 
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