Citizens United v. Fed'l Elections Comm: Campaign Finance

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We already have Corporation involved in Campaigns with MSNBC and FOX. When a company advertises with Glenn Beck, they are supporting his message to viewers, anti Cap and Trade, global warming, and regulation.

I guess now they can bypass the charade and run their political ads directly with disclosures.
 

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Okay, now the US is a fascist state

Why do Fascist states always appear when the resources start to get scarce (Mussolini, Hitler, Franco, Pinochet)?

Once you lose that independent judiciary (or appearance of one), you are in Fascism-land.

Oh look, it happened under Obama.

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Supreme Court ruling wipes away decades of legislation

Friday, January 22, 2010

WASHINGTON — A divided Supreme Court on Thursday swept away decades of legislative efforts to restrict the role of corporations in election campaigns, ruling that severe restrictions on corporate spending are inconsistent with the First Amendment's protection of political speech.

The court split 5-4 over the ruling, with its conservative members in the majority.

"When government seeks to use its full power, including the criminal law, to command where a person may get his or her information or what distrusted source he or she may not hear, it uses censorship to control thought," the court said in a decision written by Justice Anthony Kennedy. "This is unlawful. The First Amendment confirms the freedom to think for ourselves."

The decision upends the court's precedent that corporations may not use their profits to support or oppose candidates, and it rejects a large portion of the so-called McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform act that the justices had declared constitutional just six years ago.

It seems likely to apply to the political role of labor unions as well.

The decision does not address the restriction on direct contributions to candidates, and it upholds disclosure requirements for groups that mount advertising campaigns for and against candidates.

The ruling marks a triumph for groups that have fought the McCain-Feingold provisions, formally known as the Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform Act of 2002. It also is a telling reminder of how quickly a court can change.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor supported the constitutionality of the act in 2003. But Chief Justice John Roberts and O'Connor's replacement, Justice Samuel Alito, have supported each challenge to the law since they have joined the court. They supported Kennedy's opinion, along with Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

The court's liberal bloc, which included new Justice Sonia Sotomayor in the case, dissented. Justice John Paul Stevens took more than 20 minutes to read a dissent from the bench, a move justices reserve for emphasizing their disagreement.

"A radical change in the law," Stevens called the decision. He said Thursday's majority rejects the decisions of Congress dating from 1907 and "the overwhelming majority of justices who have served on this court." He said the five-member majority are the only ones who believe corporate money in electoral politics should be increased, rather than controlled. Sotomayor and Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer joined his 90-page dissent.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who co-wrote the 2002 campaign reform law with Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis., said he was "disappointed" by the decision. But Feingold went further, calling it "a terrible mistake" and saying it ignored "important principles of judicial restraint and respect for precedent."

"Presented with a relatively narrow legal issue, the Supreme Court chose to roll back laws that have limited the role of corporate money in federal elections since Teddy Roosevelt was president," Feingold added. Both senators noted, though, that the court had retained the law's ban on so-called soft-money contributions.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the nation's largest business group, said the ruling provides "clarity and predictability" for corporations, unions and nonprofit groups seeking to take part in the political process.

"Today's ruling . . . is a positive for the political process and free enterprise," said Robin Conrad, executive vice president of the chamber's litigation center.

But President Barack Obama called the decision a victory for big oil, Wall Street banks, health insurance companies and other powerful interests.

The ruling will lead to a "stampede of special-interest money in our politics," Obama said. He pledged to work with Democrats and Republicans in Congress to come up with a "forceful response" to the high court's action.
 
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Where are you going with the "it happened under Obama" line? Two of the judges that voted for this were appointed by Bush II and one that voted against it was appointed by Obama. This is the best counter for when people say "it doesn't matter who you vote for". All of the judges who voted for this were appointed by Republicans.
 

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I’ve come to the conclusion that Cruise is a closet republican poster. He is using the republican tactic to run down Obama so the republicans can run against the current political party in power in Washington, the Democrats and claim that “see Washington, the government is corrupt and ineffective”. In actuality Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell was one of the co-sponsors of this Supreme Court case and is praising the decision.
 

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Well, Pres. Obama said he's working with Dems & Repubs to craft a 'strong' response to the decision. I'm interested in what they will come up with. Not that it will do much good :(
 

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Well, Pres. Obama said he's working with Dems & Repubs to craft a 'strong' response to the decision. I'm interested in what they will come up with. Not that it will do much good :(

We shall see.
 

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Where are you going with the "it happened under Obama" line? Two of the judges that voted for this were appointed by Bush II and one that voted against it was appointed by Obama. This is the best counter for when people say "it doesn't matter who you vote for". All of the judges who voted for this were appointed by Republicans.

I was simply making an observation.
 

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been one........ if you ask me my opinion .... since days of the cold war.
 

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I was simply making an observation.

Cool but when you throw out such seemingly unrelated lines in an otherwise pretty good post, it comes off differently than if the line wasn't there at all. You mentioned Hitler and Pinochet and then toss out Obama like there's a connection.
 

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Remember, the government's position in the case was that it had the power, under the Constitution, to ban the distribution of political books over Amazon's Kindle, to prohibit political movies from being shown by video-on-demand, to forbid a union from paying a writer to author a political book, and to prohibit a corporation from publishing a 500-page book with even one sentence of political advocacy.

The Supreme Court said, "No, you don't have that authority," and we are all the better for it.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2010/01/opposing-view-pure-science-fiction.html
 

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"The ruling will lead to a "stampede of special-interest money in our politics," Obama said. He pledged to work with Democrats and Republicans in Congress to come up with a "forceful response" to the high court's action."

hilarious!
heard this plenty of times within 1 year.

Obama, an incompetent politician while he was IL. Senator, literally came out of no where and quickly rose through the ranks in an incredibly short period of time. Yall know what that means? He had BIG MONEY backing him. The top 1% gave him 100% of their support.

while you all read about this, go research the corporation that invested the most money into Obama's campaign. Then go research some of the recipients of the bailout money that he "took" from you.

Reagan=Bush Sr........Bush Sr.=Clinton.....Clinton=Bush Jr.....Bush Jr.=Obama....see a pattering going on here?
...lol

once again..this shit is hilarious!
wait till the supreme court gets involved with Obama's immigration reform.
that'll be even funnier...especially to Black folks.



when you people finally realize that what the President of the US cosigns has nothing to do with the well being of you and your family...then get at me!
 
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It was always my feeling "capitalism" died when the Banks were bailed out in the Fall of 2008. I've consistently argued that our problems should not be blamed on capitalism but rather corporatism / fascism.

Can we now admit our govt has been taken over by a bunch of fascists?
 

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It was always my feeling "capitalism" died when the Banks were bailed out in the Fall of 2008. I've consistently argued that our problems should not be blamed on capitalism but rather corporatism / fascism.

Can we now admit our govt has been taken over by a bunch of fascists?

You have been arguing with me for, how many months now. Finally you get it!

Corporatism = Capitalism


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Billionaire Koch Brothers Give $1 Million To Block California Climate Law

source: Huffington Post

Billionaire Koch Brothers Back Suspension Of California Climate Law

SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Oil billionaires David and Charles Koch have jumped on board an effort to suspend California's global warming law by making a million-dollar contribution this week.

A subsidiary of Wichita, Kan.-based Koch Industries, the nation's second-largest private company with oil refineries and pipelines, made a $1 million contribution Thursday to the campaign for Proposition 23. They join two Texas-based companies, Valero Energy Corp. and Tesoro Corp.

According to the Los Angeles Times, a spokeswoman for Flint Hills Resources said the company "may consider additional support."

California's global warming law, known as AB32, seeks to reduce greenhouse gas emissions statewide to 1990 levels over the next decade.

Proposition 23 seeks to suspend California's 2006 law until the state's unemployment rate falls below 5.5 percent for four consecutive quarters. That level has happened three times in the last three decades, according to state statistics.

The initiative is opposed by environmental groups, Democratic lawmakers and Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who called the contribution "extremely disappointing."

Katie Stavinhoa, a Koch spokeswoman, said the company believes the law will cause "significant job losses and higher energy costs."

The Koch brothers have founded several libertarian organizations and think tanks dedicated in large part to fighting what they view as excessive government regulation. They have helped finance efforts to develop arguments against global warming.

So far, the Proposition 23 campaign has raised $8.2 million, of which 97 percent has come from oil interests. The campaign against the measure has raised $6.6 million with donations from billionaire hedge fund manager Thomas Steyer, environmental groups and clean-tech businesses.
 

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Chamber of Commerce Denies Foreign Money Funding Campaign Ads

More corporate Free Markets

Obama was right!


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source: CBS

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the conservative business lobbying group that has vowed to spend $75 million to influence the midterm elections, is denying a report from a liberal group that it is using money from foreign corporations on campaign ads.

"These accusations are completely erroneous," Tita Freeman, vice president of communications for the Chamber, said in a statement. "... No foreign money is used to fund political activities."

The website Think Progress today said its investigation showed that the Chamber "funds its political attack campaign out of its general account, which solicits foreign funding." It suggested that "the Chamber is likely skirting longstanding campaign finance law that bans the involvement of foreign corporations in American elections."

Liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org filed a formal request asking the Department of Justice to investigate the Chamber in the wake of the report.

The details of the allegations are a little complicated, but to put it as simply as possible: Think Progress is alleging that foreign chapters of the Chamber in places like Bahrain (which are known as "AmChams") funnel money to the U.S. Chamber. That money, Think Progress says, ends up in the fund that pays for campaign ads.

In the statement denying the report, Freeman said "AmChams are independent organizations and they do not fund political programs in the United States."

We have a system in place for ensuring that they are not government-controlled entities," Freeman continued. "The Chamber is proud to have global companies among our membership. We're careful to ensure that we comply with all applicable laws."

The Chamber does not disclose its donors, making it difficult to trace where the money for its ads is coming from. The group generally backs Republican candidates, though it has supported a small number of Democrats in this campaign cycle, including West Virginia Senate candidate Gov. Joe Manchin.

The Chamber successfully lobbied earlier this year to help kill a piece of legislation supported by Democrats called the DISCLOSE Act designed to force donors to identify themselves in campaign ads. The DISCLOSE Act was a response to the Citizens United court case giving companies permission to spend unlimited money anonymously to support or oppose a candidate.

President Obama has warned that the decision opens the door to foreign-controlled corporations interfering in U.S. elections.

The Chamber, which received a $1 million donation from Fox News parent company News Corp., has already run more than 8,000 campaign ads on behalf of GOP Senate candidates, according to the Wesleyan Media Project.

It is illegal under the Tillman Act of 1907 for "foreign nationals" to spend money to influence U.S. elections.

Foreign companies like Siemens are members of the Chamber, though the group says money from that and other foreign companies goes to lobbying and advocacy efforts, not campaign advertising.
 

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Republicans (Chamber of Commerce) get foreign money funneled into some general account at the Chamber of Commerce, we get free trade, outsourcing, and tax incentives for business to move offshore. 15 million people sitting around unemployed, blocking unemployment for budgetary reasons, but supporting a $700 billion tax cut for the rich.

The Department of Commerce under Reagan was meeting companies offshore and encouraging them to move their production offshore.

What Rod Blagojevich was charged with is nothing compared to this setup, no different than putting money in the freezer.
 
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Tita Freeman, the chamber’s vice president for communications, told us that money the chamber takes in from foreign corporations "is not used for political ads." However, she declined to describe how the funds are segregated.

Tillman Act of 1907

The Tillman Act of 1907 (34 Stat. 864) (January 26, 1907)) was the first legislation in the United States prohibiting monetary contribution to national political campaigns by corporations....

Federal Election Campaign Act


The Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (FECA, Pub.L. 92-225, 86 Stat. 3, enacted February 7, 1972, 2 U.S.C. § 431 et seq.) is a United States federal law which increased disclosure of contributions for federal campaigns, and amended in 1974 to place legal limits on the campaign contributions. The amendment also created the Federal Election Commission (FEC)....
 

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The FEC began allowing these new groups after the
U.S. Supreme Court’s January decision in Citizens
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Democratic-backed groups are spending
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GOP-backed groups are spending millions
on campaign ads and not revealing who’s
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Well, Pres. Obama said he's working with Dems & Repubs to craft a 'strong' response to the decision. I'm interested in what they will come up with. Not that it will do much good :(

source: Yahoo News

Senate GOP again blocks campaign finance bill


WASHINGTON – Senate Republicans on Thursday stood fast in blocking legislation requiring [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]special [COLOR=#366388 !important]interest [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]groups[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] running campaign ads to identify their donors.

Mirroring a Senate vote on the bill last July, all 39 Republicans who voted stopped Democrats from bringing the campaign disclosure bill to the [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Senate [COLOR=#366388 !important]floor[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. The 59-39 vote fell one short of the 60 needed to advance the legislation. Two Republicans didn't vote.

Republicans dismissed Democratic efforts to revive the bill as an attempt to win political points before the midterm elections.

The [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]White [COLOR=#366388 !important]House-backed [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]measure[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] is a response to a 5-4 Supreme Court decision last January overturning a decades-old law that barred corporations, unions and other organizations from spending on advertising, mass mailings and other forms of political activity.

Democrats warned that the ruling would lead to a deluge of ads from shadowy special interest groups financed by corporate millions.

"It's no longer a premonition, it's a reality," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., a main sponsor of the legislation, pointing to special interest ads already running in states such as Ohio and California with hotly contested political races.

"We have these nameless, faceless individuals spending huge amounts of money, corporate money and other money. There is certainly no transparency whatsoever," [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Democratic [COLOR=#366388 !important]Majority [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]Leader [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]Harry [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]Reid[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], D-Nev., said.

President Barack Obama said in a statement that he was "deeply disappointed by the unanimous Republican blockade." He said the vote was a "victory for special interests and U.S. corporations including foreign-controlled ones who are now allowed to spend unlimited money to fill our airwaves, mailboxes and phone lines right up until Election Day."

But Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said Democrats were playing "pure politics" in trying to stop opponents from criticizing Democratic policies. "They're trying to rig the system to their advantage. That's it. It's quite simple."

Schumer said Democrats were prepared to move the effective date of the bill to next January so it would not influence the November elections, but that offer failed to win any Republican support.

Republicans also accused Democrats of playing pre-election politics earlier this week when they united to block action on a defense policy bill that would have allowed votes on opening a path to legal status for the children of illegal immigrants and on ending the military's don't ask-don't tell policy for gays.

The [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]campaign [COLOR=#366388 !important]finance [/COLOR][COLOR=#366388 !important]bill[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], which narrowly passed the House on a largely partisan vote, would have required nearly all organizations airing political ads independently of candidates or the political parties to disclose their top donors and the amounts they paid.

It would have banned a variety of political activity by entities holding a government contract worth more than $10 million and corporations where foreigners own more than a majority of voting shares.

The rejection of the disclosure bill came as the the House Administration Committee approved legislation that would make candidates for federal office eligible for public funding if they rely solely on private contributions of $100 or less. Sponsors of the bill that passed in committee, led by Reps. John Larson, D-Conn., and [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Walter [COLOR=#366388 !important]Jones[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], R-N.C., said it would reduce the role of special interest money in campaigns.

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The disclosure bill is S. 3628.
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Campaign spending by outside groups </font size><font size="6">
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McClatchy Newspapers
By David Lightman
October 25, 2010



WASHINGTON — With a week to go before the elections, independent groups, most of them with sharp partisan leanings, have spent $257.7 million to influence political campaigns, nearly quadrupling such interest groups' total spending in the last midterm election, according to a Washington watchdog group.

<SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">In 2006</span>, the last nonpresidential congressional election year, the groups spent a total of <SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff00">$68.8 million</span> for the election, according to information from the Center for Responsive Politics, which tracks the data.


Spending by conservative groups this year is more than 2 to 1 ahead of spending by more liberal groups. In 2006, when Democrats regained control of Congress, liberal spending led by about 2 to 1.

The 2010 spending spree is shattering records thanks partly to an unusually competitive year when control of Congress appears up for grabs, but largely due to the Supreme Court's ruling last January in Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.

The 5-4 decision removed curbs on independent expenditures by corporations and unions, freeing them to spend without limit from their own treasuries on campaign ads and advocacy efforts so long as they aren't coordinated with candidates' campaigns.

Under tax and campaign finance laws, most such groups don't have to disclose their donors until after the election.

Just how much all this spending matters to the outcome of the elections Nov. 2 is unclear.

Experts have long thought that money can help define lesser-known candidates, for better or worse. They also stress that money alone won't win a race, however, particularly since voters often become numbed by repetitive advertising.

"Television ads are important in driving voter perceptions of candidates in a race," said Jonathan Collegio, a spokesman for the groups, though he added, "At a certain point, any advertising will result in diminishing returns, especially in the last weeks of an election cycle."

The other question that the spending barrage raises is whether voters are being badly misinformed, confused by the barrage of charges and countercharges and uncertain whom the groups with haughty-sounding names represent.

"People don't like to think they're being bought," said Trevor Potter, a former Federal Election Commission chairman who's now the president of the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center.

However, he warned, evidence long has shown that advertising compels people to buy certain products, and "it seems unlikely a lot of those calculations are wrong."

One of the more active independent groups is American Crossroads, a political campaign group whose board chairman is former Republican Party Chairman Michael Duncan, and its sister organization, Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies, an issue advocacy organization. Karl Rove, President George W. Bush's political guru, is an informal adviser to both.

"Voters should have a healthy dose of skepticism and a steady finger on the remote to change the channel," said David Levinthal, a spokesman for the Center for Responsive Politics.

Among outside independent groups, the conservative American Action Network is the top spender so far, at $22.7 million, followed by American Crossroads, at $18 million, and Crossroads GPS, at $11.5 million.

Also listed as big spenders are two labor unions friendly to Democrats: the Service Employees International Union, at $11.3 million, and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, at $10.5 million.

The chief beneficiaries so far have been Senate races in Colorado, where outside groups had poured in $29.7 million as of Monday — with GOP-friendly groups giving slightly more — and Pennsylvania, where $18.8 million has been spent and where Democratic-allied groups have a slight edge.

Outside spending is also heavy in Washington state, with $14.4 million; Nevada, with $14.2 million; and Arkansas, with $13.3 million.

The efforts of Republican challengers Dino Rossi in Washington state and Sharron Angle in Nevada are getting more help than Democratic incumbents are in those states, but in Arkansas, Sen. Blanche Lincoln, though trailing badly in the polls, has seen a slight outside spending advantage.

The House of Representatives race that's attracting the most outside cash has been Nevada's 3rd District battle between incumbent Democrat Dina Titus and Republican Joe Heck. About $6.1 million has been spent, with Titus holding an edge in the district, which stretches from Las Vegas' suburbs to the Arizona border.


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/10/25/102568/campaign-spending-by-outside-groups.html
 

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Group says 2 justices may have
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c a b l e n e w s n e t w o r k
By Bill Mears,
CNN Supreme Court ProducerJ
anuary 20, 2011



Washington (CNN) -- A liberal reform group has asked the Justice Department to investigate allegations of conflict of interest by Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

Washington-based Common Cause filed a petition Thursday with the Obama administration, urging that a controversial campaign finance reform decision be vacated because, the group says, the justices attended closed-door political gatherings sponsored by two top Republican donors and industrialists.

The request for a government probe comes exactly a year after the Supreme Court's key ruling giving corporations -- businesses, unions, and advocacy groups -- more power to spend freely in federal elections, overturning long-standing congressional restrictions.​

"It appears both justices have participated in political strategy sessions, perhaps while the case was pending," said the Common Cause petition, "with corporate leaders whose political aims were advanced by the decision."

The self-described "non-partisan, grass-roots organization" wants a fact-finding investigation to determine the extent of Scalia's and Thomas's participation, and to recommend the so-called "Citizens United" decision be nullified if any impropriety is uncovered.

Common Cause also wants the two justices to recuse -- or withdraw -- from hearing any future campaign reform cases.

In a conference call with reporters, Common Cause officials had few specifics on what the justices may have discussed at the private retreats, and when. But the New York Times reported invitations for a political retreat next week in California --sponsored by the same two GOP donors -- mentioned past appearances by "notable leaders" like Scalia and Thomas, two of the most conservative justices on the nine-member court.

All federal judges are required to list on annual financial disclosure forms any out-of-town travel paid by private groups for speeches and other appearances. Both justices listed separate trips in 2007 and 2008 for gatherings they said were sponsored by the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group with reported ties to David and Charles Koch, who head their family-run energy company based in Wichita, Kansas. Koch Industries is one of the largest privately held firms in the United States.

Media reports in the past have mentioned Scalia's and Thomas's ties to the Kochs.

"We believe it is inappropriate for a Supreme Court judge to be 'featured' at or attend closed-door strategy meetings with political donors, corporate CEOs, candidates and political officials, and thereby lend the prestige of their position to the political goals of that event," Common Cause argues in its petition. "A reasonable person would question the impartiality of Justices Thomas and Scalia in the Citizens United case based on their attendance at political strategy meetings sponsored by a corporation that raises and spends millions to defeat Democrats and elect Republicans."

There was no immediate reaction from the high court or the Justice Department about the request for a government probe.

The Common Cause petition is, even by the group's own admission, a long shot, since the Justice Department cannot compel any recusal, or vacate any decision. Separation of powers gives federal judges latitude to decide for themselves whether to pull of out a case.

Supreme Court justices are not bound by the same code of conduct as other federal judges, but judicial officials have said the high court uses those rules as guidance.

Scalia refused to withdraw from a 2004 court appeal over whether then-Vice President Dick Cheney should have to disclose documents related to an energy task force he headed in the White House. Scalia had gone on a private hunting trip with Cheney while the case was being considered, leading to an appearance of conflict existed.

But a year earlier Scalia did recuse himself in a court case over having children recite the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools. The 74-year-old justice had made general remarks on separation of church and state at a Religious Freedom Day rally some months before.

Common Cause also noted Clarence Thomas' wife, Virginia, is a leading conservative political activist who in 2009 formed an advocacy group active in a range of hot-button issues, including health care reform. Virginia Thomas no longer has a leadership role in Liberty Central, but remains an adviser to the group.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/01/20/scotus.conflict.allegation/
 

thoughtone

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Nothing new.

QueEx, Republicans have a history of conflicted interests. The so called main stream "liberal" media never makes this apparent.

source: SourceWatch[/URL]

Scalia also became a source of controversy when his law firm represented George W. Bush in the 2000 Supreme Court case that halted the Florida presidential ballot recount and resulted in Bush becoming president of the US. While Eugene Scalia was not directly involved in the case, the federal statute on recusal requires that a justice recuse himself from any case in which their spouse or child is "known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding." [16][/URL] As a partner in the law firm, Eugene Scalia profited directly from the case both financially and professionally, yet his father Antonin Scalia refused to recuse himself from the case, casting a vote that helped determine who would become the next president of the United States.
 

thoughtone

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<CENTER>
Group says 2 justices may have
conflict of interest in election case


It appears Scalia and Thomas's participated in political strategy
sessions, perhaps while the case was pending,"
"with corporate leaders whose political
aims were advanced by the decision"
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So what else is new! Conservatives have two rules, one for them and one for everyone else.



QueEx, Republicans have a history of conflicted interests. The so called main stream "liberal" media never makes this apparent.

source: SourceWatch

Scalia also became a source of controversy when his law firm represented George W. Bush in the 2000 Supreme Court case that halted the Florida presidential ballot recount and resulted in Bush becoming president of the US. While Eugene Scalia was not directly involved in the case, the federal statute on recusal requires that a justice recuse himself from any case in which their spouse or child is "known by the judge to have an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding." [16] As a partner in the law firm, Eugene Scalia profited directly from the case both financially and professionally, yet his father Antonin Scalia refused to recuse himself from the case, casting a vote that helped determine who would become the next president of the United States.
 

QueEx

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Re: Supreme Court rules on campaign finance


Montana Supreme Court Ruling
Sets up Challenge to Citizens United


Money in Politics.







The biggest threat to Citizens United:

In the case, which was spearheaded by the state’s Democratic Attorney General
Steve Bullock, Montana’s top court restored Big Sky country’s century-old law
banning corporations from directly spending on political candidates or committees.
Legal experts believe that upon appeal, this case will come before the nation’s
highest court. While there, it could serve as the first test of the precedents in the
infamous Citizens United decision that essentially allows unfettered corporate
spending in campaigns.​


Money in Politics: Citizens United Setback in Montana:

"In a rebuke to the United States Supreme Court, the Supreme Court of
Montana has held that Citizens United does not apply to Montana campaign
finance law.

"Last Friday, the Montana Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of a
1912 voter initiative -- the Corrupt Practices Act -- that prohibits
corporations from making contributions to or expenditures on behalf of state
political candidates and political parties. In 2010, the Supreme Court ruled
that a similar federal prohibition was unconstitutional, prompting a wave of
bills and court rulings that erased prohibitions on corporate and union
political expenditures around the country." Truth-out link

Jeff Milchen ( Jeff@amiba.net ) is a co-founder of the American Independent
Business Alliance, a network of 80 community organizations supporting local
independent businesses based in Bozeman, Montana.

He just wrote the piece "Big Win for Democracy in Big Sky Country," which
states: "Observing oral arguments in the Montana Supreme Court chamber
last September, I could see conflict in the faces of several Justices as they
probed whether Montana’s ban on direct corporate electioneering could
withstand the pending challenge in Western Tradition Partnership (WTP) v
Montana. The terse tone of many questions belied the Justice’s frustration
with the U.S. Supreme Court’s rationale in Citizens United v FEC, which
inspired WTP's lawsuit by striking down a federal law similar to Montana’s.

"The law in question, the Corrupt Practices Act, had stood for 99 years since
Montana citizens passed an initiative in response to some of the most overt
corporate corruption in American history.

"Five of the seven Justices found the State’s defense compelling. In a
December 30 ruling with national implications, the Court overturned a lower
court ruling and rejected arguments that Citizens United rendered the
Corrupt Practices Act unconstitutional.

"Key distinctions in Montana’s circumstances included the State presenting
extensive evidence of actual corruption, which the U.S. Supreme Court
found lacking in Citizens United. And while Citizens United did not address
non-partisan and judicial elections, Montana’s law protects the very Justices
who decided the case from being intimidated or corrupted. Montana’s ruling
quoted the U.S. Supreme Court’s own opinion in Caperton v Massey Coal
(2009), stating, 'Judicial integrity [is] a state interest of the highest order.'

"Of course, money drowning out the voice of citizens can happen in almost
any other election now, thanks to Citizens United bestowing Bill of Rights
protections upon corporations -- entities never mentioned in our
Constitution. Justice Kennedy’s majority opinion also asserted 'independent
expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to
corruption or the appearance of corruption.'

"That astounding claim promptly birthed 'super PACs' which can accept
unlimited donations to support their favored candidate and attack his or her
opponents. Fittingly, the obvious early victim of super PACs in the current
presidential election was Newt Gingrich, who previously hailed Citizens United
as a 'great victory for free speech.'"

Milchen added: "Despite the Montana Justices’ efforts to differentiate WTP
v Montana from Citizens United, an appeal is likely. If granted, the case may
create a true focal point to unite the energy of Occupiers fed up with
corporate corruption, Tea Partiers who advocate for states’ rights, and the
nearly 80 percent of Americans who support amending the Constitution to
explicitly state what is obvious to most of us, but not to five men sitting on
the U.S. Supreme Court: the Bill of Rights was enacted to protect the rights
of actual human beings."

AMIBA was party to briefs in both CU v FEC and WTP v Montana.
See: "Granting Corporations Bill of Rights Protections Is Not 'Pro-business.'"​





 

Ninja05

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Re: Supreme Court rules on campaign finance

Very good...its a start. We need to make sure activist judges don't tread on the will of the people :hmm:
 

Mrfreddygoodbud

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fuckin tea party heads kill me with their ignorant logic, so it happend under President Obama huh?

well who appointed the judges that were so against it, the top whores to ever wear a black robe, alito, roberts, scalia, and thomas...

yeah thats all President Obamas doing, these numbheads are acting like eight years of bush is still not affecting the country, as long as those circus freaks are leading the way, expect more obvious supreme court decisions against the people to come your way.
 
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