Any Screenwriters On The Board??

playahaitian

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Pretty much lol

If I like your ideas I can take them add them to my own ideas and if I have the platform to make them bigger and get richer from those ideas then I can.

Everybody is stealing from something else or inspired from something or someone else, now you can drape that stealing up into homage if you want to acknowledge it or not at all.

Now you might lose culturally if someone decides to point out the thievery but it may not even matter that much if you've already minted your money from it.

Katt Williams just showed us all this.

^^^^

@godofwine

There is your answer.
 

playahaitian

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So does that mean I'm fucked? Does that mean I just got to sit here and watch somebody try to turn my beautiful idea into a novel or a movie and I can't get shit?

you need good legal good team and good support base in the community ie union.

I use the same example for almost a decade. Kevin Smith and Paul Dini on Fatman on batman completely outlined the concept and first seasons of Gotham on Fox

Nothing could be done. Because they do not OWN the characters. And even the outline concepts themes story arcs detailed that were used were fa8r game.

And this happened numerous times specifically from that podcasts to the point FELLOW WRITERS IN THE UNION told Kevin and Marc to STOP GOVING OUT IDEAS FOR FREE.

So they stopped doing it so much.
 

playahaitian

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What does copyright protect?
Copyright, a form of intellectual property law, protects original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture. Copyright does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation, although it may protect the way these things are expressed. See Circular 1, Copyright Basics, section "What Works Are Protected."

How do I protect my idea?
Copyright does not protect ideas, concepts, systems, or methods of doing something. You may express your ideas in writing or drawings and claim copyright in your description, but be aware that copyright will not protect the idea itself as revealed in your written or artistic work.

Does my work have to be published to be protected?
Publication is not necessary for copyright protection.



Yup

This is why established creatives don't respond to most if not all submittal for advice etc on peoples unsolicited work so they don't get sued. Because your gonna claim they STOLE your idea.

It's simple and it's complicated.

Most don't have the money time or resources so that's why this stuff is muddled.
 

godofwine

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Yup

This is why established creatives don't respond to most if not all submittal for advice etc on peoples unsolicited work so they don't get sued. Because your gonna claim they STOLE your idea.

It's simple and it's complicated.

Most don't have the money time or resources so that's why this stuff is muddled.
Story building is so fun. I'm doing it right now with a magic project I'm working on.

I don't know what all I'm doing is called, but I've seen it in books I've read in movies I've seen, like foreshadowing and callbacks

***

"Did she do the trick with the light bulbs on the vanity in her room? said Tyronie, as she nudged her cousin Ronald, who giggled.

"Un-huh."

"Did she make you get up and tap on the light bulb," Ronald said, his smile widening.

"Un-huh," Angelo's said, again.

"Same ole grandma," Lillian said. "She's told the same stories to all of us."

"Almost the same way, too," Tyronie said.

"It's pretty simple though. Ty and I were both born with the aura, but our brother Oliver wasn't. So he's like my dad. My mom has powers, but they aren't that strong. Nobody knows why. Even with a wand her magic doesn't go long distances."

***


Which of you is best with character descriptions? I am trying to differentiate and distinguish each character, hairstyles, faces. I'm talking about black people here. Just trying to find out the best way to describe people. I don't think I'm doing it enough and I want to do more. I want it to be a whole world.

What novel gives the best and in-depth descriptions of black people? I need an example to use.

I'm just 27,300 words in, and there are tons of other people I have to describe. There's only been about a dozen people so far that I've mentioned
 

playahaitian

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Story building is so fun. I'm doing it right now with a magic project I'm working on.

I don't know what all I'm doing is called, but I've seen it in books I've read in movies I've seen, like foreshadowing and callbacks

***

"Did she do the trick with the light bulbs on the vanity in her room? said Tyronie, as she nudged her cousin Ronald, who giggled.

"Un-huh."

"Did she make you get up and tap on the light bulb," Ronald said, his smile widening.

"Un-huh," Angelo's said, again.

"Same ole grandma," Lillian said. "She's told the same stories to all of us."

"Almost the same way, too," Tyronie said.

"It's pretty simple though. Ty and I were both born with the aura, but our brother Oliver wasn't. So he's like my dad. My mom has powers, but they aren't that strong. Nobody knows why. Even with a wand her magic doesn't go long distances."

***


Which of you is best with character descriptions? I am trying to differentiate and distinguish each character, hairstyles, faces. I'm talking about black people here. Just trying to find out the best way to describe people. I don't think I'm doing it enough and I want to do more. I want it to be a whole world.

What novel gives the best and in-depth descriptions of black people? I need an example to use.

I'm just 27,300 words in, and there are tons of other people I have to describe. There's only been about a dozen people so far that I've mentioned

Congrats.

Off top? I'm thinking beloved did that well if I remember correctly. I gotta go back and check.

But this not an uncommon question at all
 
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playahaitian

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Story building is so fun. I'm doing it right now with a magic project I'm working on.

I don't know what all I'm doing is called, but I've seen it in books I've read in movies I've seen, like foreshadowing and callbacks

***

"Did she do the trick with the light bulbs on the vanity in her room? said Tyronie, as she nudged her cousin Ronald, who giggled.

"Un-huh."

"Did she make you get up and tap on the light bulb," Ronald said, his smile widening.

"Un-huh," Angelo's said, again.

"Same ole grandma," Lillian said. "She's told the same stories to all of us."

"Almost the same way, too," Tyronie said.

"It's pretty simple though. Ty and I were both born with the aura, but our brother Oliver wasn't. So he's like my dad. My mom has powers, but they aren't that strong. Nobody knows why. Even with a wand her magic doesn't go long distances."

***


Which of you is best with character descriptions? I am trying to differentiate and distinguish each character, hairstyles, faces. I'm talking about black people here. Just trying to find out the best way to describe people. I don't think I'm doing it enough and I want to do more. I want it to be a whole world.

What novel gives the best and in-depth descriptions of black people? I need an example to use.

I'm just 27,300 words in, and there are tons of other people I have to describe. There's only been about a dozen people so far that I've mentioned

 

playahaitian

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Story building is so fun. I'm doing it right now with a magic project I'm working on.

I don't know what all I'm doing is called, but I've seen it in books I've read in movies I've seen, like foreshadowing and callbacks

***

"Did she do the trick with the light bulbs on the vanity in her room? said Tyronie, as she nudged her cousin Ronald, who giggled.

"Un-huh."

"Did she make you get up and tap on the light bulb," Ronald said, his smile widening.

"Un-huh," Angelo's said, again.

"Same ole grandma," Lillian said. "She's told the same stories to all of us."

"Almost the same way, too," Tyronie said.

"It's pretty simple though. Ty and I were both born with the aura, but our brother Oliver wasn't. So he's like my dad. My mom has powers, but they aren't that strong. Nobody knows why. Even with a wand her magic doesn't go long distances."

***


Which of you is best with character descriptions? I am trying to differentiate and distinguish each character, hairstyles, faces. I'm talking about black people here. Just trying to find out the best way to describe people. I don't think I'm doing it enough and I want to do more. I want it to be a whole world.

What novel gives the best and in-depth descriptions of black people? I need an example to use.

I'm just 27,300 words in, and there are tons of other people I have to describe. There's only been about a dozen people so far that I've mentioned

 

playahaitian

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Thank you.

I both love and hate that there's so much to that goes into this. I want to just write, but I can't simply write if I want to make something great

If you just write with that passion you have? It will all come together.

You can't teach passion drive commitment and creativity.

Just write. And keep writing

Then write some more

Take a break... then rewrite what you just wrote.

All that other stuff will work itself out.

Saying the rope like veins of his massive dark hands writhe under his dark skin like moorings of ancient ships whose bellies were filled with his enslaved ancestors.

doesn't make the character any more or less black.

Be honest to the character and serve the story.

You got this.
 

PsiBorg

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Story building is so fun. I'm doing it right now with a magic project I'm working on.

I don't know what all I'm doing is called, but I've seen it in books I've read in movies I've seen, like foreshadowing and callbacks

***

"Did she do the trick with the light bulbs on the vanity in her room? said Tyronie, as she nudged her cousin Ronald, who giggled.

"Un-huh."

"Did she make you get up and tap on the light bulb," Ronald said, his smile widening.

"Un-huh," Angelo's said, again.

"Same ole grandma," Lillian said. "She's told the same stories to all of us."

"Almost the same way, too," Tyronie said.

"It's pretty simple though. Ty and I were both born with the aura, but our brother Oliver wasn't. So he's like my dad. My mom has powers, but they aren't that strong. Nobody knows why. Even with a wand her magic doesn't go long distances."

***


Which of you is best with character descriptions? I am trying to differentiate and distinguish each character, hairstyles, faces. I'm talking about black people here. Just trying to find out the best way to describe people. I don't think I'm doing it enough and I want to do more. I want it to be a whole world.

What novel gives the best and in-depth descriptions of black people? I need an example to use.

I'm just 27,300 words in, and there are tons of other people I have to describe. There's only been about a dozen people so far that I've mentioned
Here's a story I wrote a while back. But I changed it a bit for a contest I was going to enter.

I'm going to say this. If your story is good and your characters are strong; it won't matter what color the characters are, because everyone will see them differently in their own minds.
 

godofwine

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Here's a story I wrote a while back. But I changed it a bit for a contest I was going to enter.

I'm going to say this. If your story is good and your characters are strong; it won't matter what color the characters are, because everyone will see them differently in their own minds.
Eric Jerome Dickey used similar ambiguity in the Gideon book series. He was never clear on the ethnicity of the protagonist Gideon, his mother or his brother. I loved the series when I discovered it 15 years ago

I recently purchased the series from ebay and even lucked up on an autographed copy. They cost a total of $39, with the autographed copy being only $22. It was something I wanted for my own personal collection



 

godofwine

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Here's a story I wrote a while back. But I changed it a bit for a contest I was going to enter.

I'm going to say this. If your story is good and your characters are strong; it won't matter what color the characters are, because everyone will see them differently in their own minds.
I read the story before. Loved seeing it again. Great concept. I'd love to see the whole story
 

benny_negro

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Do we have copies of scripts for —

**AMERICAN FICTION - copped!!!!
OPPENHEIMER
KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON
LOVE LIES BLEEDING

— in any of our threads?

Thought I saw a few of these in last few months.

Thanks for the help tracking em down again!
 
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benny_negro

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Do we have copies of scripts for —

AMERICAN FICTION
OPPENHEIMER
KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON
LOVE LIES BLEEDING

— in any of our threads?

Thought I saw a few of these in last few months.

Thanks for the help tracking em down again!
I knew I had seen and even saved the AMERICAN Fiction script thanks @raze for that one in the Movie Scripts (Screenplays) Thread
 

raze

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Do we have copies of scripts for —

**AMERICAN FICTION - copped!!!!
OPPENHEIMER
KILLERS OF THE FLOWER MOON
LOVE LIES BLEEDING

— in any of our threads?

Thought I saw a few of these in last few months.

Thanks for the help tracking em down again!


 

raze

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“I’m Scared”: Why It’s a Brutal Time to Be a TV Writer​

The end of Peak TV has ushered in an era of contraction, with fewer buyers (farewell, The CW) and fierce competition for the few shows that are staffing: "People are in total survival mode."

Emily Cheever’s career was just getting started.

The 36-year-old began her TV writing career in 2020 as a writers’ production assistant and script coordinator for Legends of Tomorrow before getting hired as a staff writer for ABC’s The Company You Keep. After the drama that marked Milo Ventimiglia’s follow-up to This Is Us was canceled following a single season shortly after the Writers Guild of America strike began last May, Cheever had no job to return to when it ended in September. Like scores of other writers of all levels and backgrounds, she doesn’t know when or where her next paycheck will come from.
“People are scared. I’m trying to go back to bartending,” she says. “A lot of people are wondering what other jobs they can do. I’m close with my old showrunners, and they’re supportive of me, but they’re looking for jobs.”

Across the TV landscape, buying has cooled dramatically and many writers now find themselves in situations like Cheever, with opportunities shrinking as the industry shifts from Peak TV to an era of contraction and austerity — a wave of downsizing that kicked off last year when the priorities of Wall Street changed from a focus on subscriber growth to profitability. As streamers like Netflix and Max right-size their slates, the broadcast pipelines for Peacock, Hulu and Paramount+ are drying up. A decade ago, broadcasters collectively ordered as many as 98 pilots; today, that number can be counted on one hand.

“There are so few shows that are still being greenlit, so few new pilots that are being ordered and fewer spots in writers rooms,” says Shannon Corbeil, a finalist for the Disney TV Writing Fellowship that was put on hold during the WGA strike. “The staffing positions available are going to more seasoned writers and the pilots that are being purchased are being bought from proven writers.”

Brandon K. Hines spent more than a decade working in support staff jobs and as a script coordinator on Comedy Central’s Awkwafina Is Nora From Queens and Amazon’s Harlem. He was staffed as a writer for the first time on Showtime’s Fellow Travelers. Hines was homeless and had been bouncing between camping, couch surfing with friends and the occasional Airbnb before he turned to driving for DoorDash and Grubhub after his 16-week writing job on the Showtime limited series concluded before the strikes began. A potential writing job on a Weeds revival he lined up before the strike evaporated during the work stoppage, as Showtime dropped plans for the series sources say.

“You need multiple gigs a year to make a livable wage,” Hines says, noting that competition for lower-level writing jobs has intensified as mid-level scribes and showrunners are increasingly putting themselves up for the few shows that are currently staffing. “It’s the craziest time to be a working writer in Hollywood: You can [work on] a semi-hit show but still can’t afford to make a living wage. It’s pretty intense.”

It’s not just the lack of pilots that is affecting the challenging landscape that writers have found in the industry since the strike concluded in September. The overall volume of U.S.-produced, live-action scripted TV series tumbled 14 percent last year, from a high of 600 in 2022 to 516 in 2023. FX CEO John Landgraf, who coined the term “Peak TV,” told The Hollywood Reporter in February that the downturn started well before the WGA strike last May.

“There was a certain amount of inefficiency that was just about a whole bunch of companies entering a space where they had no prior experience. And you can’t blame anybody but inexperience for that,” Landgraf says of the billions of dollars rival streamers spent on programming in a bid to compete with Netflix.

Since then, television reporters have been transformed into show grim reapers, announcing waves of cancellations and “unrenewals” — series that were canceled after they had originally been renewed by networks — including Uncoupled, Pitch Perfect: Bumper in Berlin and A League of Their Own.

The Entertainment Community Fund, which provides assistance in the form of funds, workshops and trainings for those who work in the film and TV industries, has already distributed more than $3.25 million to 1,600 folks from Jan. 1 through March 22. That’s on top of the $18.8 million the ECF handed out in 2023 during the dual work stoppage to 8,500 people (including more than 600 writers).

Keith McNutt, executive director of the ECF, says the group has received requests for financial assistance from writers of all experience levels and cultural backgrounds since the strikes concluded. The ECF, he says, is dispersing between $200,000 to $300,000 a week. “We’re still doing three times the amount of assistance per week as before the pandemic,” he says.

The WGA, which monitors employment levels among its members, declined to comment for this story other than to say the union “required some time for a clear post-strike picture to occur.”

* * *

“It’s erratic. The market has settled into something different with only five or six buyers left,” says one veteran executive turned studio chief of the new TV landscape. “It has been reshaped with fewer rooms, and rooms that are smaller with fewer jobs.”

Though the WGA won some room size protections in its new Minimum Basic Agreement (MBA), big writers rooms with a dozen or more scribes — once commonplace — are increasingly hard to find. “There are thousands of people going up for one job and only six slots per show on a good day,” says one veteran lit agent who pointed to Watson adding three writers after it was picked up for 13 episodes. The CBS drama started development more than a year ago with a mini-room that featured only six scribes. “It doesn’t feel like anyone gets a [big writers room] unless you’re an NCIS.”

The lack of The CW as a buyer for multi-season shows like Legends of Tomorrow and Superman & Lois (now in its abbreviated fourth and final season) is also contributing to the downturn in available gig for writers. Since Nexstar took control of The CW from Warner Bros. and CBS Studios in October 2022, the network has canceled more than a dozen scripted originals and is no longer buying scripts from the traditional studio system the way it did under former CW CEO Mark Pedowitz. That has left hundreds of writers out of work, as The CW previously served as a way for new scribes to learn the ropes.

As writers anxiously wait for a new wave of script deals to begin, many are turning to other jobs or consider leaving the industry altogether. “I was interviewing for teaching jobs. I interviewed at a university and was close to leaving Hollywood forever,” says an experienced showrunner. “Nobody ever starts their career thinking that it will last forever. I never thought I’d be a writer for as long as I have, but I didn’t expect to run into a brick wall. I thought it’d be a slow tapering, but this feels like a cataclysm. It was a very emotional thing I did when I applied for teaching jobs. I don’t know if I’m ever going to forgive Hollywood for this. To go from the pandemic to the strikes to this? It feels like one war of attrition after another.”

For this showrunner, the recent salary gains secured in the new MBA are helpful but pale in comparison to the residuals that writers received from working on the type of long-running shows that boasted 24-episode seasons and were the bedrock of broadcast before streaming. “Writers at my stage a generation ago would have had much more money in the bank,” he says. “The fact that our earnings, up and down the ranks, have been diminished and the fact that we can’t rely on residuals to support us through the lean periods … people are in total survival mode. Even though we’ve made gains through the last two strikes, they don’t add up to what it used to look like for veteran writers.”

McNutt says many scribes have turned to the ECF’s career center to help identify skills that can transfer elsewhere. “We try to look at people’s transferable skills and identify other kinds of work they can do to bring in money on the side. Being a writer is the dream and the passion and hopefully the primary wage source, but if that’s not bringing in enough money you can create a parallel career consulting with nonprofits or editing fundraising proposals.”

“I’m scared. No one is making decisions,” says another veteran showrunner who has been waiting since October to hear back on multiple pilots. “You end up not being able to get paid because executives are not making decisions because they’re afraid to make the wrong ones.” This showrunner is now trying to figure out how to pay his mortgage after his overall deal expired and as his projects sit in limbo. “That’s where a lot of us are,” he notes. “Almost everyone I know who had a deal, that deal doesn’t exist anymore.”

Agents, too, are feeling the pressure as clients come calling, looking for answers on when the downturn might end and when buying could perk up. But agents say they don’t have the answers. “It’s just hard. There are a lot less jobs out there and more people available than ever,” says one. Adds another: “There are no shows getting picked up and the shows that are getting ordered have very tiny budgets, and showrunners are getting 600 submissions for staffing on a light day when it’s usually half of that. There are more writers who are unemployed than ever before. It’s sad.”

So, when will the turnaround begin?

Keto Shimizu has worked steadily since breaking into the industry in 2010, with credits that include Being Human, Arrow and showrunning Legends of Tomorrow. She was told by her reps that networks and streamers would start buying again after the calendar turned to 2024. “It’s been three months, and no one can get anything sold,” she says as she juggles five different projects — all of them based on IP — with the hopes that one will eventually find a buyer. “For writers who are trying to pay their bills, it’s really scary because we only make money if things sell. As a showrunner who is a queer woman of color and I can’t get work? That’s saying a lot. It’s very frustrating.”

“Stay alive ’till ’25,” was the advice given to emerging writer Corbeil, the former finalist for the Disney TV Writing Fellowship, by her reps. Corbeil believes she’s ready to be staffed on a show but has been hearing “it’s really tough to get emerging writers jobs” since the strike ended. In the meantime, she remains open to assistant jobs, and she’s pitching pilots to channels that are buying — like Hallmark and Lifetime. “Selling a pilot can pay your bills for a year,” she says.

“I think [the current lull] is temporary,” says one studio chief. “There are a lot of shows and outlets that need writers, and Netflix needs to keep feeding the beast.” Many of the dozens of writers and executives THR polled are indeed optimistic that things will pick up again toward the end of the current 2023-24 broadcast season, when networks will begin buying scripts to develop for the future. “Networks are going to need shows, and streamers will need shows because original series are what brand them,” says a studio insider. “I don’t know that networks can go until 2025 without buying; they just won’t be buying as much.”
 

PsiBorg

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Here's a story about the movie "Pulp Fiction" that I never knew.
I wonder if a couple or several "Black" writers could get together and write a movie in this style?

 

benny_negro

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Here's a story about the movie "Pulp Fiction" that I never knew.
I wonder if a couple or several "Black" writers could get together and write a movie in this style?


I just caught a different vid from this channel off whatever my algorithm is doing these days haha. Don’t even remember what it was but I subbed to the channel. I think it was something lookin at Speilberg and I guess some stripped down study version of RAIDERS in particular that Soderbergh apparently put together…

I’ll peep this one soon. I seen it’s been some talk of putting some “bgoalitions” together lol or at least droppin some inception like seed thoughts on us haha.

Real talk though creating is absolutely healthiest in community; even if a *nigga really ain’t one for “collaboration”…

*whatever works for each writer to feel and produce work they’re most satisfied with is all that matters imo
 
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Mello Mello

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Here's a story about the movie "Pulp Fiction" that I never knew.
I wonder if a couple or several "Black" writers could get together and write a movie in this style?


This story changes every time I hear it retold. He cowrote on most of Quentins early works. He wrote on Reservoir Dogs too. I don’t remember Avary getting as much recognition on Dogs either before Pulp. In my opinion I think Avary is the original catalyst for Quentins storytelling, he seeds the story then Tarantino runs with it and adds everything else to it and stepped in when Quentin needed his help. Avary was too lackadaisical and Quentin was chasing the fame, you can tell who Hollywood fell in love with.
 

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For 16 weeks, participants will attend small workshop-style meetings with showrunners, executive producers, agents, managers and development and current executives to gain a better understanding of how the business works from many different perspectives. The meetings will also allow them to make critical professional connections.

Where is the program being held?

The program is held in Los Angeles, and all participants will need to be close to Los Angeles for the duration of the program in order to participate in program activities. As stated above, participants are responsible for their own travel and accommodation expenses. For the past two years the program has been virtual, however if health and safety considerations allow the program to be in person, participants will need to be close to Los Angeles from January to the end of April to participate in program activities.

What is the compensation for participating in the program?

The Paramount Writers Mentoring Program is not employment and there is no monetary compensation.
 

PsiBorg

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What is the compensation for participating in the program?

The Paramount Writers Mentoring Program is not employment and there is no monetary compensation.
Compensation???
It's Hollywood, Bruh. You'd better keep your head down before they tell you that you have to pay them.
 

playahaitian

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For 16 weeks, participants will attend small workshop-style meetings with showrunners, executive producers, agents, managers and development and current executives to gain a better understanding of how the business works from many different perspectives. The meetings will also allow them to make critical professional connections.

Where is the program being held?

The program is held in Los Angeles, and all participants will need to be close to Los Angeles for the duration of the program in order to participate in program activities. As stated above, participants are responsible for their own travel and accommodation expenses. For the past two years the program has been virtual, however if health and safety considerations allow the program to be in person, participants will need to be close to Los Angeles from January to the end of April to participate in program activities.

What is the compensation for participating in the program?

The Paramount Writers Mentoring Program is not employment and there is no monetary compensation.


Wish I was in LA
 
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