The problem is racism/white supremacy. Lets pick on our own size. 23 year old black woman CAN NOT be a threat to race soldiers that work as SWAT and have more that 3 years working experience.
Replace racism/white supremacy with JUSTICE!
23-year-old Korryn Gaines was murdered by Baltimore County police, PIGS DELETED HER SOCIAL MEDIA ...
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The problem is racism/white supremacy. Lets pick on our own size. 23 year old black woman CAN NOT be a threat to race soldiers that work as SWAT and have more that 3 years working experience.
Replace racism/white supremacy with JUSTICE!
Yo...
my cuzin had his doors kicked in by SWAT...
on some drug shit in NY.
he got knocked on this summer drug ring/round-up...
with the phone tap,
they were listening to cats running their mouth about drugs and guns
so they sent in SWAT...
This chick had a gun!
Like I been saying with a lot of my related posts,
WHERE ARE THE NEGOTIATORS????
my cuzin had his doors kicked in by SWAT...
on some drug shit in NY.
he got knocked on this summer drug ring/round-up...
with the phone tap,
they were listening to cats running their mouth about drugs and guns
so they sent in SWAT...
This chick had a gun!
Like I been saying with a lot of my related posts,
WHERE ARE THE NEGOTIATORS????
So everytime someone has a gun...
SWAT is called?
SWAT is called?
So for those of you that don't think that Korryn Gaines suffered from some type mental illness, watch this.
What grown woman asked a child what they want to do about the swat team being in their home with weapons pointed toward them?
While I do think the police were out to get this her because of her social media rants/videos exposing some of their tactics, and she was definitely targeted which I vehemently disagree with, at the same time nothing should have been more important to a parent than the safety and the well being of her children. In this regard, she failed herself and her children miserably. Allowing her 'battle' to put but her 5 year old in a position of getting shot clearly shows that she was more concerned about being a martyr then a parent. I respect the Dude for getting his kid out of harms way, and anyone who questioned him and his actions aren't too bright.
There is a battle to be fought, and a war to be won, but there is a time, place and battlefield to wage this war.
In this situation, my FIRST, requirement and thought is to mitigate hostility, be as compliant as possible, and to do the best I can to make sure my child is as far away from harms way as possible. While there is no guarantee this will still keep us safe, but I also will not ADD to the prospect of events turning hostile either...
Thankfully this lil fella didn’t lose his life because of his mothers contribution to escalating this issue.
An intelligent Black woman with no romantic ideas about the evil intent of white supremacy in it's many applications on and against people of color. Especially single Black women. Don't think for a hot second being mentally sick of all shit means stupid or incompetent by any means.
Pointing the blame at someone else or something else, if they knew all this why she was still in custody of that kid, and she got a shotgun and in there acting crazy, nobody fixing to let anyone including family in in that situation. Tired of seeing excuses from some folks, she made a decision to not turn herself over and wage war with the swat team = stupidity
OP, when it comes to this sister, Its all about misplaced anger and NOT misplaced priorities.
We angry at a sister that was a victim of racism/white supremacy and she responded to it the best way SHE saw fit. She is qualified to act the way that she did.
We should be angry at the racist man and the racist woman (white people). They are the problem and the cause of all this.
oNe!
We angry at a sister that was a victim of racism/white supremacy and she responded to it the best way SHE saw fit. She is qualified to act the way that she did.
We should be angry at the racist man and the racist woman (white people). They are the problem and the cause of all this.
oNe!
Do you have any idea the extent of the lead poisoning in MD and other places? Whole communities and generations have been poisoned. So are you now advocating the state take all the kids? Or just lock everyone up in camps?
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They are estimating between 65,000-100,000 have been lead poisoned. See the quote below. What do you propose for a solution?
R= Racism WS = White Supremacy
Ms. Gaines handled that situation the way she wanted to and was actually practicing what she preached to her son.
It is all a matter of perspective. I explained best in (L)Esther's thread.
Which is better? Strawberry or mango?
The question is similar to whether you thought Ms. Gaines was right in her actions or wrong.
I'm not going to judge. She is more of a "man" than a lot of coon niggas out here.
It is all a matter of perspective. I explained best in (L)Esther's thread.
Which is better? Strawberry or mango?
The question is similar to whether you thought Ms. Gaines was right in her actions or wrong.
I'm not going to judge. She is more of a "man" than a lot of coon niggas out here.
You don't think the grievances expressed are valid? And btw that last piece was written by a man.
Lol I'm the one who asked for em and haven't read em. I can think of a few ideas I could consider valid
I don't think anyone is saying that. It's just some of the things being said make people seem like they themselves are unhinged. The pigs let her mother, boyfriend, father, and others talk to her. The MOTHER stated that day one. She wasn't listening to anyone. The neighbor said she pointed the gun at the boyfriend when he tried to get the kid.
And yes, I'll trust a neighbor's point of view before I trust the police narrative or that of the family. Dude sounded pissed to be caught in the middle of this fuckery.
Ok. She was lead poisoned. Let's talk about that. If the father says all his kids were lead poisoned, that explains her sister's misguided actions of trying to rush the kid on YouTube from the hospital bed.
That boy had enough with nuts putting cameras in his face and coaching him up. The boy's father should be furious with the actions of those who were and are trusted to look out for his child. He should also be furious with the police rushing to end this. Just back off. Let her get tired. What's the rush? She threatened the pigs, not the child. If they were watching social media, they obviously saw she wasn't playing with a full deck. Police know about the sovereign types.
The lead poisoning issues is real. So is mental illness. Let's discuss how lead poisoning should be addressed. Let's discuss how police need more training to deal with the mentally ill. But no. We got folks attacking the boyfriend. Folks saying this was anger and she's like Harriet Tubman when it was clearly unstable behavior. This mentally unstable individual put her kids in harm's way. And best believe, other unstable individuals are watching this shit.
People need to step outside their little social media circles and see that we are losing the battle for public opinion. The way social media has handled this Gaines' case has been terrible. Folks should have jumped out ahead on this mental illness angle as soon as they saw that traffic video. Those who brought it up days ago were dismissed though or attacked.
Look at american sniper, Chris Kyle had to think long and hard before he shot a woman and child in a hostile area where kids posed a real threat . he said I hope I'm right before he killed that kid in a whole another country because, he knew he would have been done with if that kid was unarmed.In America you don't have to think twice before shooting black women and children.
That's all they had to do.
Hell, they could of asked her if she and her son were hungry and got them a pizza.
They ain't gonna do that for a Black woman and her kids though.
I read a news story where a man was barricaded in his home during a standoff with police. It lasted three days and this man - this white man - made it out the ordeal alive.
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I know the last one was written by a man. Very perceptive of you.
And when you generalize ALL Black Men, then your so-called grievances bare no weight with me. It just tells me you rather whine and contribute to the White Supremacy mindset on Black Men then actually doing anything to personally deal with Black Men to achieve a co-existant level. And deal with those grievances together.
First let me say God bless the dead.
Trying to compare her to the panther party and Malcolm is a slap in the face. Both groups believed in following just laws and standing up against unjust laws.
This sister felt she didn't have to follow the law of registering your vehicle in order to drive on public roads. She also felt she did not have to allow her vehicle to be towed. She also did not show up to court. When the warrants were served she refused to go answer and defend herself in court.
Please stop with the Malcolm memes and panther memes. It's disrespectful.
Trying to compare her to the panther party and Malcolm is a slap in the face. Both groups believed in following just laws and standing up against unjust laws.
This sister felt she didn't have to follow the law of registering your vehicle in order to drive on public roads. She also felt she did not have to allow her vehicle to be towed. She also did not show up to court. When the warrants were served she refused to go answer and defend herself in court.
Please stop with the Malcolm memes and panther memes. It's disrespectful.
Thank you Bruh...
While I do morn the death of any black person, what she did and the risks she took to her family and especially children was disgraceful.
Regardless of anything else, she brought and paid for all of those bullets. Unfortunately her child didn't but was collateral damage or her bullshit...
Same thing...
Her anger led her to put her agenda ahead of the safety of her children. That is misplaced priorities Bruh. Her agenda against her oppressors was given HIGHER priority at that moment than the safety of her children and family. Thats why I 1000% respect Dude who bounced with the baby. Smart man, here to live another day, fight another day, and be a father for his child...
I never said I wasn't angry at racists people, earlier posts explain in detail my entire position.
You and I will see this differently, as I said, no issue AT THAT MOMENT is more important to me than insuring the safety of my child. I don't care if it's a white supremacist, a racist, a person on the street I am in the middle of a dispute with, etc., my FIRST priority is to make sure my child is safely away from any opportunity to be hurt by that situation, so I will do whatever I had to do to mitigate danger for him.
Like I said, while I mourn her death as a black woman, there is also accountability on her part and she failed herself and her child. She may still have gotten shot, but to assist in escalating the situation is foolish, and she contributed to her catching lead as well as her child.
We will NEVER see eye to eye on this issue in the context of what happened bruh. She responded the best way she saw fit, cool... and she ended up dead and her child shot, traumatized and motherless because of her doing what she saw fit and escalating the issue...
So is that a yes or a no?
She's more dead than a lot of them too...
As some people have said, she was more interested in being a martyr than a mother, mission accomplished. So, what good is she to her son now?
I cosign both. Still, I believed that the police unnecessarily reacted hastily. There was no need. And while it seems too many that she brought it on herself oh, it's my belief that if the police did not rush into it she could have made it out alive.
But, when there is a black person involved the police are going to do their best to get a shot off it seems. Though I cannot recall a person getting shot buy Belize while holding a kid and the kid got shot too. They don't have fucking sniper or Sharp Shooters?
I don't think anyone is saying that. It's just some of the things being said make people seem like they themselves are unhinged. The pigs let her mother, boyfriend, father, and others talk to her. The MOTHER stated that day one. She wasn't listening to anyone. The neighbor said she pointed the gun at the boyfriend when he tried to get the kid.
And yes, I'll trust a neighbor's point of view before I trust the police narrative or that of the family. Dude sounded pissed to be caught in the middle of this fuckery.
Ok. She was lead poisoned. Let's talk about that. If the father says all his kids were lead poisoned, that explains her sister's misguided actions of trying to rush the kid on YouTube from the hospital bed.
He should also be furious with the police rushing to end this. Just back off. Let her get tired. What's the rush? She threatened the pigs, not the child. If they were watching social media, they obviously saw she wasn't playing with a full deck. Police know about the sovereign types.
The lead poisoning issues is real. So is mental illness. Let's discuss how lead poisoning should be addressed. Let's discuss how police need more training to deal with the mentally ill. But no. We got folks attacking the boyfriend. Folks saying this was anger and she's like Harriet Tubman when it was clearly unstable behavior. This mentally unstable individual put her kids in harm's way. And best believe, other unstable individuals are watching this shit.
People need to step outside their little social media circles and see that we are losing the battle for public opinion. The way social media has handled this Gaines' case has been terrible. Folks should have jumped out ahead on this mental illness angle as soon as they saw that traffic video. Those who brought it up days ago were dismissed though or attacked.
First, the person I quoted has a history of stating grimey things about black people, so I was interested hearing in his response.
I've seen the lead poisoning/mental illness aspect since day one. The police had a history of dealing with her, and knew she wasn't all the way there.
Her family has said that they were treated with hostility and not allowed to try to talk her down. I haven't seen the neighbor's account.
I understand the need to have public opinion on your side. I've argued this elsewhere when it comes to black people having to deal with mostly white juries, prosecutors and judges. The black community cannot fight all aspects of what we are dealing with on our own. White allies are needed. The problem I have is the problem I have with since Mike Brown and before: people, including many black people, want a perfect victim. We are so worried about someone finding out something unsavory in their past or being seen as only standing up for someone simply because they are black, that we don't protect our own. We have let a white mindset and fear of white judgement divide us before we even get started. We are the only ones having to vet our victims to see if they are worthy of justice. When it comes to black women who are victims it is even worse. I will push back on this every time.
So for those of you that don't think that Korryn Gaines suffered from some type mental illness, watch this.
What grown woman asked a child what they want to do about the swat team being in their home with weapons pointed toward them?
While I do think the police were out to get this her because of her social media rants/videos exposing some of their tactics, and she was definitely targeted which I vehemently disagree with, at the same time nothing should have been more important to a parent than the safety and the well being of her children. In this regard, she failed herself and her children miserably. Allowing her 'battle' to put but her 5 year old in a position of getting shot clearly shows that she was more concerned about being a martyr then a parent. I respect the Dude for getting his kid out of harms way, and anyone who questioned him and his actions aren't too bright.
There is a battle to be fought, and a war to be won, but there is a time, place and battlefield to wage this war.
In this situation, my FIRST, requirement and thought is to mitigate hostility, be as compliant as possible, and to do the best I can to make sure my child is as far away from harms way as possible. While there is no guarantee this will still keep us safe, but I also will not ADD to the prospect of events turning hostile either...
Thankfully this lil fella didn’t lose his life because of his mothers contribution to escalating this issue.
nobody is questioning him for getting his child out of harms way..
Im saying how you dating a chick for three years and let it get to this point...
he had zero control of his lady, and you shouldnt have to lift no finger or threaten her to gain this control, she should trust you enough to let you take the lead...
somebody got her all hyped up about a war that doesnt exist on a physical level..
A real man would never let his woman take it this far, and would have her trust him to the point she would listen to his every word....
damn right I question his manhood....
if you cant control your woman you a pussy, and if you have to resort to physical or emotional abuse to do so you a bigger pussy!!
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Dude a LOT of brothers are more interested in pussy than getting shit in order. Could have been one of those instances where she was fire, and he let shit go early and it got out of hand.
Thats why, even though he did the right thing getting his youngin out of there, he just said fuck it! I know a lot of weak Dudes with aggressive chicks and they are literally cowards when it comes to them.
She clearly was the dominant person in this relationship fam...
All due respect big guy, it's easy for all of us to say what police should have done on the outside looking it. You brandish a gun at a cop, you are black, you are more than likely to get shot...
As I've said before, police show up at my door, with a warrant, I look and see my son chilling playing on the floor, and I have my lady here (another adult), I'm going to lay on the floor, put my hands behind my back, and be taken out to the police car. I'll fight this battle on a different battlefield. May still end up shot, but I'm NOT going to act aggressive and belligerent with my Son in harms way because I'm pissed at the system. Got to be smarter than that.
I also believe she had martyrdom on her brain, and wanted to go out like this. Mental illness and all... If a severely mentally disabled person is pointing a gun at me, and I have a gun, I'm going to shoot that motherfucker first! Bullets still kill no matter the mental state of the person pulling the trigger and my life is more important to me than my compassion for their issues...
I can't believe this shit. Wait... it's yall yes i can