Zimmerman acted in self-defense and it's time to drop murder charge - OPINION

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A medical report by George Zimmerman’s doctor has disclosed that Zimmerman had a fractured nose, two black eyes, two lacerations on the back of his head and a back injury on the day after the fatal shooting. If this evidence turns out to be valid, the prosecutor will have no choice but to drop the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman — if she wants to act ethically, lawfully and professionally.

There is, of course, no assurance that the special prosecutor handling the case, State Attorney Angela Corey, will do the right thing. Because until now, her actions have been anything but ethical, lawful and professional.

She was aware when she submitted an affidavit that it did not contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. She deliberately withheld evidence that supported Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. The New York Times has reported that the police had “a full face picture” of Zimmerman, before paramedics treated him, that showed “a bloodied nose.” The prosecutor also had photographic evidence of bruises to the back of his head.


But none of this was included in any affidavit.

Now there is much more extensive medical evidence that would tend to support Zimmerman’s version of events. This version, if true, would establish self-defense even if Zimmerman had improperly followed, harassed and provoked Martin.

A defendant, under Florida law, loses his “stand your ground” defense if he provoked the encounter — but he retains traditional self-defense if he reasonably believed his life was in danger and his only recourse was to employ deadly force.

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Thus, if Zimmerman verbally provoked Martin, but Martin then got on top of Zimmerman and banged his head into the ground, broke his nose, bloodied his eyes and persisted in attacking Zimmerman — and if Zimmerman couldn’t protect himself from further attack except by shooting Martin — he would have the right to do that. (The prosecution has already admitted that it has no evidence that Zimmerman started the actual fight.)

This is a fact-specific case, in which much turns on what the jury believes beyond a reasonable doubt. It must resolve all such doubts in favor of the defendant, because our system of justice insists that it is better for 10 guilty defendants to go free than for even one innocent to be wrongfully convicted.

You wouldn’t know that from listening to Corey, who announced that her jobs was “to do justice for Trayvon Martin” — not for George Zimmerman.


As many see it, her additional job is to prevent riots of the sort that followed the acquittal of the policemen who beat Rodney King.

Indeed, Mansfield Frazier, a columnist for the Daily Beast, has suggested that it is the responsibility of the legal system to “avert a large scale racial calamity.” He has urged Zimmerman’s defense lawyer to become a “savior” by brokering a deal to plead his client guilty to a crime that “has him back on the streets within this decade.”

But it is not the role of a defense lawyer to save the world or the country. His job — his only job — is to get the best result for his client, by all legal and ethical means.

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Listen to the way a famous British barrister put it in 1820:

“An advocate, by the sacred duty which he owes his client, knows, in the discharge of that office, but one person in the world, that client and none other . . . Nay, separating even the duties of a patriot from those of an advocate, and casting them, if need be, to the wind, he must go on reckless of the consequences, if his fate it should unhappily be, to involve his country in confusion for his client’s protection.”

The prosecutor’s job is far broader: to do justice to the defendant as well as the alleged victim. As the Supreme Court has said: “The government wins . . . when justice is done.”

Zimmerman’s lawyer is doing his job. It’s about time for the prosecutor to start doing hers.

Dershowitz, a defense attorney, is a professor at Harvard Law School.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...murder-charge-article-1.1080161#ixzz1vFOiBfDi
 
They want to get him off the hook with this "self defense" stuff. If I start a fight with someone at the bar, get beat up, then shoot him because I'm getting my ass kicked, it would be murder.
 
If Zimmerman had stayed in the car none of this would have happened. The only self defense I see is Trayvon defending himself from some weirdo with a gun.
 
They want to get him off the hook with this "self defense" stuff. If I start a fight with someone at the bar, get beat up, then shoot him because I'm getting my ass kicked, it would be murder.

Imagine if Zimmerman when he attacked the cop "felt threaten". Decided to shot and kill that cop. Would these opinion pieces read the same way.
 
Can't claim self defense when you actively pursue and stalk an individual for no reason.

You get your ass kicked then shoot the person you picked the fight with and kill them. That's murder through and through
 
we need to prepare ourselves for this dude getting off and when he does i hope we done go around fucking up our shit and shit in our neighborhoods like we did with the rodney king stuff
 
So wait, I can stalk somebody, confront them, start the fight, lose then shoot them as long as they land solid blows? That's great to know. :dance:
 
I wonder if Zimmerman would have gotten out of his car if he didn't have a gun...

I think we all know...gotta gun,gotta use it.
 
none of you know FL law, which will allow him to go free... We aren't talking about what would happen in other states, FL's Stand Your Ground is very different, and allows this act to be justified. I told you, this bs case was all for show, just to shut the public up, nothing more, nothing less. When he walks, bitch at the moron's that wrote up the stupid law in the first place, and bitch about getting rid of it...
 
he chased the little boy and the little boy defended himself


2nd degree murder 20 years or a group of thugs need to burn his entire family for justice
 
Op, do you think the prosecutor didn't have this evidence before she brought the murder 2 charge?

An ass-whooping took place...then a murder,& all the prosecutor has to prove is that zimmerman was standing up when he pulled the trigger.

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Dude is a dead man if (when) he gets off. He should plea it out and hopefully by the time he gets out he can get the fuck out of Dodge before people remembers who he is.
 
none of you know FL law, which will allow him to go free... We aren't talking about what would happen in other states, FL's Stand Your Ground is very different, and allows this act to be justified. I told you, this bs case was all for show, just to shut the public up, nothing more, nothing less. When he walks, bitch at the moron's that wrote up the stupid law in the first place, and bitch about getting rid of it...

How the hell you know who knows Florida Law? Stand Your Ground can still lead to criminal charges and conviction. And it doesn't prevent a civil case.

A stand-your-ground law states that a person may use force in self-defense when there is reasonable belief of a threat, without an obligation to retreat first. In some cases, a person may use deadly force in public areas without a duty to retreat. Under these legal concepts, a person is justified in using deadly force in certain situations and the "stand your ground" law would be a defense or immunity to criminal charges and civil suit. The difference between immunity and a defense is that an immunity bars suit, charges, detention and arrest. A defense, such as an affirmative defense, permits a plaintiff or the state to seek civil damages or a criminal conviction but may offer mitigating circumstances that justifies the accused's conduct.
 
stalk me, follow me, then approach me; when i whoop that ass, shoot me

i guess the stand your ground law applies to everyone but Trayvon
 
In practice, it just may turn out that way... but it's interesting that the Florida legislator who got that law pushed through (Dennis Baxley...I believe he was GOP) said that he didn't think stand your ground should apply to Zimmerman because he was following the kid.



none of you know FL law, which will allow him to go free... We aren't talking about what would happen in other states, FL's Stand Your Ground is very different, and allows this act to be justified. I told you, this bs case was all for show, just to shut the public up, nothing more, nothing less. When he walks, bitch at the moron's that wrote up the stupid law in the first place, and bitch about getting rid of it...
 
Dershowitz is a jackass. He was caping for Zimmerman in the early days of this debacle. Fuck his opinion.
 
none of you know FL law, which will allow him to go free... We aren't talking about what would happen in other states, FL's Stand Your Ground is very different, and allows this act to be justified. I told you, this bs case was all for show, just to shut the public up, nothing more, nothing less. When he walks, bitch at the moron's that wrote up the stupid law in the first place, and bitch about getting rid of it...

You are right to a point. There are still people here thinking Vick should not have gone to jail. Different laws for different states. I don't live in FL but there is a good chance that Zimmerman will be found innocent after reading how THEY apply THEIR law.
 
Either way this case ends...it's not gonna end well for Zimmerman! They'll either get him in jail or get him on the streets! He should have thought about the consequences before he pulled the trigger! But just like a person with ADHD, they act without thinking and refuse to take responsibility for their actions! Fuck the Stand Your Ground defense because he initiated the confrontation and the kid was defending himself. Zimmerman thought he could whip the kids ass but instead he was getting his ass handed to him! He didn't like it and shot the kid while the kid was begging him not to shoot him. Which means Zimmerman was under control of the situation at the time he blatantly shot Martin square in the chest! Zimmerman is a fucking pussy faggot ass bitch! Woulda got his head blown off trying that bullshit in NY! Fuck him!
 
If he had rolled up on me injuries would've been a lot worst. His injuries only proves that Treyvn defended himself.
 
tha fuck they expect Travon to do?? the kid was fighting for his fuckin life.....Zimmerman is supposed to be bloodied the fuck up.
 
So if you lose a fight, it's ok to kill that person? Because that's what people are saying.

And I know damn sure that if the roles were reversed and a white boy was killed by any other race using the stand your ground law as an excuse, his ass would be in jail.

stalk me, follow me, then approach me; when i whoop that ass, shoot me

i guess the stand your ground law applies to everyone but Trayvon

:cool:
 
so you can just bait someone into a fight...then when they start whippin you ass...you can pull out the strap and kill them.

fuck outta here :angry:
 
In Fl...and several other states...there is a "stand your ground" law. I think we can all agree that zimmerman should have stayed in the car...he had no business to follow treyvon...but he did, and following him or anyone is not against the law. if...and I say if because I dont know what happened, if treyvon got pissed because zimmerman was following him, which is not agianst the law, and treyvon started the fight, then by FL law...Zimmerman will go free....
 
If Zimmerman had stayed in the car none of this would have happened. The only self defense I see is Trayvon defending himself from some weirdo with a gun.

end thread, i dont care if he was geeking off coke, the dude ran up on him. Unarmed minor gets shot by someone who approached him is wrong! Problem is we made it racial, it shouldnt even have to be racial its a human rights violation. OP is a white boi i can smell it
 
It's interesting how a Zionist like Dershowitz would probably break every international law in the book to defend Israeli terrorists but he has no problem telling black folk to swallow this bitter pill.

Malcolm was dead on about Jews and white liberals ( or all of the above ).
 
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