X-Men: Apocalypse' Review: It's A Franchise-Killing Disaster

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    X-Men: Apocalypse opens overseas starting May 18th before its American debut on May 27th. Like two of the highest grossing previous X-Men pictures, it has a prime Memorial Day slot that should point towards a big opening but also a brief theatrical lifespan. The X-Men movies have never been terribly leggy, and this shouldn’t be an exception with competition like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Warcraft, and Finding Dory over the course of June.

    The gazillion-dollar question isn’t whether the series can maintain or exceed its $230-$235 million domestic peak, but rather if it can build or maintain on X-Men: Days of Future Past. That 2014 blockbuster, which combined the prior cast with the newbies from X-Men: First Class, earned a whopping $747 million worldwide. Will this one, which lacks the “franchise all-stars to the rescue” gimmick, be able to keep the pace, especially with Deadpool and Captain America: Civil War threatening to render this X-Men team movie as “just another franchise entry?” We’ll know soon enough, but Fox seems confident.

    The Review:

    Mild spoiler warning, just in case…

    There is a scene in the 80’s set X-Men: Apocalypse where a young Jean Grey (Sophie Turner) and Scott Summers (Tye Sheridan) exit a showing of Return of the Jedi and argue the merits of the various Star Wars films. The participants discuss “Empire Strikes Back was better” versus “Star Wars started it all” before coming to a consensus that the third films always stink. It’s intended as a jab at X-Men: The Last Stand, but it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Bryan Singer’s would-be trilogy capper is a shocking miss. It is a lifeless and hollow shell of a picture, lacking exciting action, strong character interplay, or compelling storytelling. It is the nadir of the franchise, determined to make you apologize for every mean thing you’ve ever said about Brett Ratner’s rushed X-Men trilogy capper a decade ago. X-Men: The Last Stand is X2: X-Men United compared to X-Men: Apocalypse.

    After a promising prehistoric prologue that seems to promise a certain fantastical one-upmanship for this generally grounded franchise, the film offers a series of introductory table-setting scenes for what turns out to be the vast majority of its running time. We cut between “meet the new kids” moments (including a Cyclops origin that feels like the X-Men prologue segment we never got back in 2000), some “catch up with old friends and enemies” beats (like Jennifer Lawrence’s Raven rescuing Nightcrawler from a cage match), and our new villain Apocalypse (Oscar Isaac) slowly and deliberating recruiting each of his four “horsemen.” For a reel or two, it looks like Bryan Singer, Simon Kinberg, and friends are really going to give us a “disaster movie” in the mold of an X-Men adventure. But then we come to the first confrontation with Xavier and Apocalypse, and you realize that the film is almost over.

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    It’s no secret that I think the reliance on Magneto (be he Ian McKellen or Michael Fassbender) as a source of (the same) conflict or (the same sort of) villainy has been this franchise’s long-form Achilles’ Heel. You can imagine my horror when I realized that this sixth team X-Men film was again going to revolve partially around Magneto (Fassbender, sadly phoning it in) lifting stuff for evil and Charles (McAvoy, surprisingly phoning it in) and his X-Men trying to get their former friend to stop lifting stuff for evil. Magneto’s new wife and daughter (this one takes place in 1983, ten years after Days of Future Past) get more dialogue than Storm (Alexandra Shipp) and Psylocke (Olivia Munn) combined. That’s impressive because (as you might guess) said family quickly gets fridged so Erik can “have an angry” and willingly join Apocalypse’s team.

    The other three “horseman” (Psylocke, Storm, and Ben Hardy’s Angel) are walking action figures, with no character development and no substantive screen time. There is a reason why we keep seeing that “Psylocke slices a car in half with a sword” shot in all of the later X-Men: Apocalypse trailers and TV spots. The heroes do little better. The young kids (Jean, Scott, Jubilee, etc.) get almost no time to bond or play with their powers. McAvoy is fun in the early scenes but soon becomes an exposition machine and a non-entity in the action. Even Jennifer Lawrence, arguably the biggest female star on Earth, has almost nothing to do beyond a few brief reunion moments and an extended bout of climactic peril. If you think this is all ends with the mother of all X-Men action finales, think again.

    No spoilers, but what you get is a slightly more fantastical redo of X-Men’s finale (with a few secondary villains sent to briefly distract our heroes so that the main villain can cement their evil scheme) and a deluge of arbitrary CGI that will remind you of the climax to Ang Lee’s Hulk. The end of the world is confined to a single isolated location, with no outside reaction or consequence despite what I presume are countless deaths. I am not sure how you make Oscar Isaac as a world-destroying baddie dull, but the powers-that-be have pulled it off. It’s good fun seeing a happy and revitalized Charles Xavier (James McAvoy) running his school and enrolling a bunch of young mutants. The idea of a young batch of fresh newbie X-Men, even if they are just younger versions of the characters we already met, has promise. But we spend next-to-no time getting to know these new kids.

    You know that scene in a record store where they hold up a “Dazzler” record that made the rounds because everything thought Taylor Swift was playing Dazzler? Yeah, that’s not in the movie. After all, why spend time watching these kids getting used to each other or their powers when you can configure a huge chunk of the film for the sole purpose of being in a specific location that enables a fan-bait cameo? Say what you will about X-Men: The Last Stand, but that film had characters who talked to each other about interesting things, and a plot that at least tried to be about something. This has little of that. The one great action beat is A) a variation of the last film’s great action beat and B) basically (if you think about what almost happens and why) undercuts the entire premise of Charles’s philosophy. The film plays like a mixed tape from prior X-Men pictures, with both highlights (Quicksilver is cool) and lowlights (Did you love lumberjack Logan and his imperiled girlfriend in X-Men Origins: Wolverine?).

    And through all of this is a total lack of urgency, a lack of momentum, and because of the utter lack of character development for our newer/younger characters (or much of interest for the veterans), no emotional investment. The entire film seems to want to set up the next stage of the franchise, yet it hamstrings itself by neglecting nearly all of its characters. This is the kind of film where the production notes contain far more character development and thematic elements than what we see onscreen. I won’t outright say that this is the worst X-Men film ever made because X-Men Origins: Wolverine is still that bad. But it is unquestionably the worst “team” X-Men movie ever made, and it is just the kind of film that will lead to so-called “superhero fatigue.”

    It has no reason to exist beyond the fact that the last film made money, and it offers a franchise absolutely determined to be so tied to its past that it gets left behind in the very comic book sub-genre that it helped popularize. It is the kind of superhero comic book film that typified the genre before the original X-Men (and Blade) turned things around. X-Men is still a groundbreaker and still works as a potent character drama. X2: X-Men United contains perhaps the best first act in superhero cinema. X-Men: First Class promised a deliciously fantastical and pop-art zippy X-Men reboot. But X-Men: Apocalypse is the kind of weightless, soulless trifle of a bore that makes comic book superhero movies look bad and makes me not look forward to the next installment.

    X-Men basically invented the modern superhero movie. But this franchise needs to make a choice: evolve or die.
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It will still do well unfortunately, unless we see more reviews like this flooding out there.

Can't wait for critics to rip this apart.
 
They fucked up having it after Civil War. They should have pushed it up and had it after Batman. Expectations will be high.

X-Men is like the old Spider Man franchises. I see them not expecting much, and that's pretty much what I get.

This pleases me.

And look how horrendous Beasts makeup/costume continues to be. Electric blue face paint, wig, and fury mittens and shoes... all on a slim build cac frame.. Atrocious. :smh:

I thought I was the only one who thought Beast looked low budget.
 
It will still do well unfortunately, unless we see more reviews like this flooding out there.

Can't wait for critics to rip this apart.


http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/09/x-men-apocalypse-review


http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...e-review-marvel-jennifer-lawrence-oscar-isaac

http://variety.com/2016/film/review...ce-michael-fassbender-oscar-isaac-1201768577/


http://www.gamespot.com/articles/x-men-apocalypse-review/1100-6439632/

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/09/x-men-apocalypse-reviews

After the rejuvenated one-two punch of 2011’s First Class and 2014’sDays of Future Past, there was reason to expect better. A lot better,” he writes in his C review. “But Apocalypse feels like a confused, kitchen-sink mess with a half dozen too many characters, a villain who amounts to a big blue nothing, and a narrative that’s so choppy and poorly cut together that it feels like you’re watching a flipbook instead of a movie.”

Other reviews criticized Apocalypse for being too predictable as the villain and complained about the film’s tired plot beats. However, some reviews were more generous: Variety praised its “gloriously cinematic storytelling,” and Mashable called it “a fun movie” that is “filled with big action moments and (often purely visual) fan service.”


Read more critics’ early takes below, ahead of Apocalypse’s May 27 release.

Chris Nashawaty (Entertainment Weekly)
“… all in all, Apocalypse is a third-tier X-Men movie that arrives at a time when studios and filmmakers who traffic in spandex need to be at the top of their game. We know all of the clichés and all of the tropes too well at this point to settle for place-holding mediocrity. We know the difference between an instant classic and a dog.Apocalypse isn’t quite a dog. But it is a movie with way too much of everything except the things that should matter the most — novelty, creativity, and fun.C

Todd McCarthy (The Hollywood Reporter)
“Despite the undeniable presence of a huge amount of action, X-Men: Apocalypse is decidedly a case of more is less, especially when compared with the surprising action and more interesting personal interactions (including the temporary subtraction of some characters) in other big Marvel franchises.”

Geoff Berkshire (Variety)
“Director Bryan Singer pioneered the contemporary wave of superhero movies with 2000’s X-Men, and made a welcome return to the series just two years ago with the time-jumping Days of Future Past. Perhaps he should’ve quit while he was ahead. Even thoughApocalypse hardly reps the franchise nadir … this is easily the least compelling, surprising and satisfying of Singer’s entries.”

Bilge Ebiri (Village Voice)
“What makes X-Men: Apocalypse so exciting isn’t really any one thing but rather its cohesion, its storytelling verve. Where other recent superhero films have struggled to jam-pack their unwieldy plots with characters and incident and meaning, this film nimbly mixes narrative exuberance and emotional depth, flamboyant displays of power with quietly terrifying exchanges. It zips along, combining the highs and lows of a real comic book — all the feeling, color, and wonder, even some of the dopiness — with gloriously cinematic storytelling.”

Alonso Duralde (The Wrap)
“Where Apocalypse falls apart is with its titular villain: He’s generically evil, setting out essentially to destroy everyone and everything on the planet, a plan that’s not only difficult to take seriously but also gives screenwriter Simon Kinberg (Fantastic Four) no metaphorical meat. Previous X-Men installments used the mutants and their struggles to comment on everything from the civil rights movement to coming-out in the LGBT community, but all we can take from this film is standard-issue superhero battles. Those skirmishes are perfectly fine, granted, but they don’t amount to much since the bad guy is such a blank and since we never feel that Apocalypse is going to succeed; you’ll find more genuine stakes inThe Angry Birds Movie.”

Michael Phillips (Chicago Tribune)
“The film leaves the grieving and anger about collateral damage to this year’s major rival superhero franchise installments Batman v Superman (the bad one) and Captain America: Civil War (the good one). This one’s ‘the OK one.’”

Mike Ryan (Uproxx)
“With everything going on in Captain America: Civil War, I really liked that the world wasn’t at stake. It was refreshing. That’s what I also liked a lot about The Wolverine. We weren’t left staring at demolished CGI cities once again. But with X-Men: Apocalypse, we are back to the world being at stake. (I mean, it is in the title.) By the time it’s over, we are left looking at heaps of CGI destruction. I bet a hundred million people died. But, hey, the good news is Erik Lehnsherr learned a valuable life lesson. And that’s all that really matters in this movie… and in every X-Men movie, really. Magneto is the human equivalent of a ‘One to Grow On’ PSA.”

Adam Rosenberg (Mashable)
“It’s unsurprising, then, that bringing it all together in X-Men: Apocalypse resulted in such a mess. Can the studio even keep track of the running storyline at this point? We in the audience sure can’t. That’s a whole lot of less-than-positive criticism, but make no mistake: This really is a fun movie. It’s filled with big action moments and (often purely visual) fan service. For all there is to point and laugh at, it’s not a waste of time.”

Matt Singer (Screencrush)
“It’s quite possible no actor has benefited less from his involvement in these X-Men prequels than Oscar Isaac. As a general rule of thumb: When you cast one of the most handsome and charismatic actors on the planet, don’t put him beneath 50 pounds of latex and blue paint and have him give a one-dimensional performance of hissing and screaming and arm waving. Completely unrecognizable in his makeup and armor, Isaac never gets a chance to use any of his many gifts as a performer; almost anyone could have played this part.”

Russ Fischer (The Playlist)
“Filmmaker Bryan Singer, who has spent practically a half his career directing X-Men movies, recently said the “grounded and serious” world of his mutant films may not mesh with the irreverent and comic tone of fellow 20th Century Fox mutant Deadpool. That’s unfortunate for him as Singer would do well to take notes from the spirit of Tim Miller’s roguish and streamlined movie, the pleasures of which are largely absent from Singer’s latest bloated and self-serious mutant misadventure.”
 
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/05/09/x-men-apocalypse-review


http://www.theguardian.com/film/201...e-review-marvel-jennifer-lawrence-oscar-isaac

http://variety.com/2016/film/review...ce-michael-fassbender-oscar-isaac-1201768577/


http://www.gamespot.com/articles/x-men-apocalypse-review/1100-6439632/

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/09/x-men-apocalypse-reviews

After the rejuvenated one-two punch of 2011’s First Class and 2014’sDays of Future Past, there was reason to expect better. A lot better,” he writes in his C review. “But Apocalypse feels like a confused, kitchen-sink mess with a half dozen too many characters, a villain who amounts to a big blue nothing, and a narrative that’s so choppy and poorly cut together that it feels like you’re watching a flipbook instead of a movie.”

Other reviews criticized Apocalypse for being too predictable as the villain and complained about the film’s tired plot beats. However, some reviews were more generous: Variety praised its “gloriously cinematic storytelling,” and Mashable called it “a fun movie” that is “filled with big action moments and (often purely visual) fan service.”


Read more critics’ early takes below, ahead of Apocalypse’s May 27 release.

Chris Nashawaty (Entertainment Weekly)
“… all in all, Apocalypse is a third-tier X-Men movie that arrives at a time when studios and filmmakers who traffic in spandex need to be at the top of their game. We know all of the clichés and all of the tropes too well at this point to settle for place-holding mediocrity. We know the difference between an instant classic and a dog.Apocalypse isn’t quite a dog. But it is a movie with way too much of everything except the things that should matter the most — novelty, creativity, and fun.C

Todd McCarthy (The Hollywood Reporter)
“Despite the undeniable presence of a huge amount of action, X-Men: Apocalypse is decidedly a case of more is less, especially when compared with the surprising action and more interesting personal interactions (including the temporary subtraction of some characters) in other big Marvel franchises.”

Geoff Berkshire (Variety)
“Director Bryan Singer pioneered the contemporary wave of superhero movies with 2000’s X-Men, and made a welcome return to the series just two years ago with the time-jumping Days of Future Past. Perhaps he should’ve quit while he was ahead. Even thoughApocalypse hardly reps the franchise nadir … this is easily the least compelling, surprising and satisfying of Singer’s entries.”

Bilge Ebiri (Village Voice)
“What makes X-Men: Apocalypse so exciting isn’t really any one thing but rather its cohesion, its storytelling verve. Where other recent superhero films have struggled to jam-pack their unwieldy plots with characters and incident and meaning, this film nimbly mixes narrative exuberance and emotional depth, flamboyant displays of power with quietly terrifying exchanges. It zips along, combining the highs and lows of a real comic book — all the feeling, color, and wonder, even some of the dopiness — with gloriously cinematic storytelling.”

Alonso Duralde (The Wrap)
“Where Apocalypse falls apart is with its titular villain: He’s generically evil, setting out essentially to destroy everyone and everything on the planet, a plan that’s not only difficult to take seriously but also gives screenwriter Simon Kinberg (Fantastic Four) no metaphorical meat. Previous X-Men installments used the mutants and their struggles to comment on everything from the civil rights movement to coming-out in the LGBT community, but all we can take from this film is standard-issue superhero battles. Those skirmishes are perfectly fine, granted, but they don’t amount to much since the bad guy is such a blank and since we never feel that Apocalypse is going to succeed; you’ll find more genuine stakes inThe Angry Birds Movie.”

Michael Phillips (Chicago Tribune)
“The film leaves the grieving and anger about collateral damage to this year’s major rival superhero franchise installments Batman v Superman (the bad one) and Captain America: Civil War (the good one). This one’s ‘the OK one.’”

Mike Ryan (Uproxx)
“With everything going on in Captain America: Civil War, I really liked that the world wasn’t at stake. It was refreshing. That’s what I also liked a lot about The Wolverine. We weren’t left staring at demolished CGI cities once again. But with X-Men: Apocalypse, we are back to the world being at stake. (I mean, it is in the title.) By the time it’s over, we are left looking at heaps of CGI destruction. I bet a hundred million people died. But, hey, the good news is Erik Lehnsherr learned a valuable life lesson. And that’s all that really matters in this movie… and in every X-Men movie, really. Magneto is the human equivalent of a ‘One to Grow On’ PSA.”

Adam Rosenberg (Mashable)
“It’s unsurprising, then, that bringing it all together in X-Men: Apocalypse resulted in such a mess. Can the studio even keep track of the running storyline at this point? We in the audience sure can’t. That’s a whole lot of less-than-positive criticism, but make no mistake: This really is a fun movie. It’s filled with big action moments and (often purely visual) fan service. For all there is to point and laugh at, it’s not a waste of time.”

Matt Singer (Screencrush)
“It’s quite possible no actor has benefited less from his involvement in these X-Men prequels than Oscar Isaac. As a general rule of thumb: When you cast one of the most handsome and charismatic actors on the planet, don’t put him beneath 50 pounds of latex and blue paint and have him give a one-dimensional performance of hissing and screaming and arm waving. Completely unrecognizable in his makeup and armor, Isaac never gets a chance to use any of his many gifts as a performer; almost anyone could have played this part.”

Russ Fischer (The Playlist)
“Filmmaker Bryan Singer, who has spent practically a half his career directing X-Men movies, recently said the “grounded and serious” world of his mutant films may not mesh with the irreverent and comic tone of fellow 20th Century Fox mutant Deadpool. That’s unfortunate for him as Singer would do well to take notes from the spirit of Tim Miller’s roguish and streamlined movie, the pleasures of which are largely absent from Singer’s latest bloated and self-serious mutant misadventure.”
Awesome! :lol:

Well hopefully this leads to the rights going back to Marvel now.
 
Umm,
Who EXACTLY did this "review? :confused:
And why should I treat it as though it has any value? :hmm:

Russ Fischer (The Playlist)
“Filmmaker Bryan Singer, who has spent practically a half his career directing X-Men movies, recently said the “grounded and serious” world of his mutant films may not mesh with the irreverent and comic tone of fellow 20th Century Fox mutant Deadpool. That’s unfortunate for him as Singer would do well to take notes from the spirit of Tim Miller’s roguish and streamlined movie, the pleasures of which are largely absent from Singer’s latest bloated and self-serious mutant misadventure.”


Fuck Bryan Singer!


Let the blood letting begin:

The First Reviews of X-Men Apocalypse Are In, and They're 'Meh'...



This weekend, 20th Century Fox held the first screenings of Bryan Singer’s X-Men Apocalypse and now the reviews are in. Some people love Singer’s epic vision, but most found it to be long, bloated, and disappointing. We’ve got examples of them all.

First, quotes from some full reviews:

“If you’ve seen one cinematic apocalypse, you’ve seen them all. At least that’s the feeling conjured by “X-Men: Apocalypse,” the latest entry in one of the more reliable comic-book franchises around, this time disappointingly succumbing to an exhausting case of been-there-done-that-itis.” - Variety

“Narratively jumbled and jammed with so many characters that you give up keeping them all straight while simultaneously lamenting not seeing more of those you might actually want around, Bryan Singer’s fourth entry in the enormously profitable series he inaugurated 16 years ago undeniably builds to a cataclysmic dramatic reckoning. But mostly it just feels like a bloated, if ambitious attempt to shuffle as many mutants and specially gifted characters as possible into a story of a resurrected god ready to take over the world.” - The Hollywood Reporter

“With “X-Men: Apocalypse,” however, Singer seems to have acquired a new mutant power of his own: Monotony. Whether it’s the lack of an interesting villain, or the fact that the series’ time-travel element is forcing these mutants to meet each other (and the audience) all over again for the first time, this latest entry marks a shocking letdown from Singer’s earlier contributions; what once soared now slogs.” - The Wrap

““Apocalypse,” for all its faults, has the audacity to make the MCU look small, and the conviction to make the DCU — if there even is such a thing — look foolish for confusing self-seriousness with gravity. If only these characters were allowed to be as complex as the ideas they fight for, “Apocalypse” could have represented a new beginning for superhero cinema.” - Indiewire

““X-Men: Apocalypse” is a lifeless affair, squandering its star power, underselling its characters, and muddying its action in grays and cutaways.” - Comic Book Resources

“For the second straight movie, the best setpiece belongs to Peters’ Quicksilver, who steals the show with an exciting and funny showcase for his powers. If we’re being totally honest, though, it’s not all that different than his showcase scene in the last movie.” - Screencrush


“At times, it feels like Singer is trying to fit as much as humanly possible into this movie, just in case it’s his last. By the time it gets to the climactic showdown against Apocalypse, it’s obvious what an unstoppable force he is, and everything leading up to that point does pay off.” - Daily News

“53 years of X-Men comic stories and an almost unlimited budget, and this is the best they could come up with?” - Film School Rejects


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One of the reviewers tweeted this to his friend after leaving the theater screening.

wa tha fuk is dis?
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X-Men: The Last Stand is X2: X-Men United compared to X-Men: Apocalypse.
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“With “X-Men: Apocalypse,” however, Singer seems to have acquired a new mutant power of his own: Monotony. Whether it’s the lack of an interesting villain, or the fact that the series’ time-travel element is forcing these mutants to meet each other (and the audience) all over again for the first time, this latest entry marks a shocking letdown from Singer’s earlier contributions; what once soared now slogs.” - The Wrap



“53 years of X-Men comic stories and an almost unlimited budget, and this is the best they could come up with?” -Film School Rejects







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Jennifer Lawerence is my problem.
That bitch must be wearing the casting couch the fuck out.
"The big disappointment of Apocalypse in terms of performances is Jennifer Lawrence. I’m in no position to say whether she tried or not, but she is right smack in the middle of an ensemble of actors that are all clearly giving this everything they’ve got and she feels disconnected from it all – which is especially unfortunate because the Apocalypse script gives her a good deal to work with when it comes to Raven/Mystique building relationships, accepting who she is and figuring out her place within the X-Men."
 
Fuck Bryan Singer!










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“With “X-Men: Apocalypse,” however, Singer seems to have acquired a new mutant power of his own: Monotony. Whether it’s the lack of an interesting villain, or the fact that the series’ time-travel element is forcing these mutants to meet each other (and the audience) all over again for the first time, this latest entry marks a shocking letdown from Singer’s earlier contributions; what once soared now slogs.” - The Wrap



“53 years of X-Men comic stories and an almost unlimited budget, and this is the best they could come up with?” -Film School Rejects







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I doubt it will be widely reviewed as a bad film. Every film since First Class has been pretty good. Only people who seem to hate them are the comic book readers.
a lot those of the reviews for Apocalypse are non geeks - a few geeks have glowing reviews - but I'm starting to suspect they are shilling fr Snyder
 
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