Why Some Black and Brown People Can’t Trust Bernie Sanders, in 1 Quote

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Why Some Black and Brown People Can’t Trust Bernie Sanders, in 1 Quote


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There are reasons that progressive black and brown folk have had their struggles with supporting Bernie Sanders—though no one does a better job of illustrating why than the Vermont senator and former presidential candidate himself.


In an interview Monday night with Seth Meyers on Late Night, Sanders said that progressives shouldn’t pin too much of their hopes on special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Which is a fair-enough point. Sanders explained that the political left needs to stay focused on “attacks that we’re seeing every day in a variety of ways, not only from the Russians on American democracy.”

Sanders listed the Citizens United Supreme Court decision and vote suppression as two such attacks. Again, so far, so good.

Unfortunately, Sanders continued speaking.

As the Daily Beast reports, host Meyers then asked Sanders if he worries that Monday’s Mueller indictments could give the left false hope, pushing them away from focusing “on the ballot box.”

“Yes. I mean, I think we’ve got to work in two ways,” Sanders answered. “Number one, we have got to take on Trump’s attacks against the environment, against women, against Latinos and blacks and people in the gay community, we’ve got to fight back every day on those issues. But equally important, or more important: We have got to focus on bread-and-butter issues that mean so much to ordinary Americans.”

Sanders said those “ordinary Americans” are “not staying up every day worrying about Russia’s interference in our election.” Instead, he said, “They’re wondering how they’re going to send their kids to college” or “how they’re going to be able to pay the rent” or “whether they can afford health care.”

SKKRRRRT.

The framing is strange—Sanders juxtaposes “ordinary Americans” against women, Latinx and black people and the LGBTQ community as if they were different groups. He also frames those “ordinary Americans” and their issues as “equally ... or more important” than that of the marginalized communities he lists before.

Systemic racism and sexism regularly affect those “bread and butter” issues Sanders describes: paying for college, rent and health care. Black and Latinx families are losing wealth, not gaining it. The Trump administration’s attacks on environmental regulations can also compound the damage suffered by marginalized communities, which are disproportionately affected by global warming and environmental disasters. Black and brown people regularly give a fuck about social justice issues, like police brutality and criminal-justice reform, along with their job prospects. At the same damn time. In fact, they understand better than other “ordinary Americans” how those circles intersect.

This line of reasoning from Sanders isn’t atypical. In the spring, Sanders defended Donald Trump voters.

“Some people think that the people who voted for Trump are racists and sexists and homophobes and deplorable folks. I don’t agree, because I’ve been there,” Sanders said. The greater point the senator was trying to make was that Trump didn’t win the election as much as the Democrats lost it.

But if Sanders continues to talk about people of color and queer communities in this way, one wonders what, exactly, the senator thinks he’ll gain—and whether he values the people he’ll certainly lose.

Read more at the Daily Beast.
 
You niggas put confidence in politicians, and I don't. Never did.

Bernie ALMOST made me drink the Kool-Aid, tho' - then I heard the way he so casually dismissed the idea of reparations, and I was done.

I'm extremely upset with myself for letting my guard down.

If you ain't talking reparations, you're the enemy, whether you know it or not.

Everybody else has been acknowledged and repaired, but us?

The group of people who've been dealt the most damage can't have their issues taken seriously?

Ha.

Right.

If keeping Donald Trump out of the WH the next time came down to my vote, you better buckle up for a rocky next four years.

While I'm keeping it all the way a buck, I hope this whole shit burns to the ground if it's going to stay on the path its on.

If I have to remain a so-called second class citizen, let the whole shit collapse in on itself.

I will never accept any of this bullshit these politicians feed us, and I'm equally as angry at my people 'cause they think what they're offering is even passable.

GTFOH.
 
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I never trusted Sanders.

Wholdup. SKRRT is right

But playing devils advocate... Is he talking about what the Dems needs to be focused on to win control of a house or the Presidency?

Because if so he is STILL missing the boat.

All Black people want ( or need in his mind ) is to be shielded against Trump's attacks :hmm:

But those "ordinary people" have more important issues. Issues that matter. Unlike those trivial matters non-ordinary people get upset over

:mad:
 
The irony is the racist folks want someone to heal them of their hate.

When you think about it, it must be hard to hate someone else.

The Democrats think the solution is to say: "Don't listen to the republicans, they are preaching hate because they have no solutions to the economic problems"

It hasn't worked!

Play on the same field. Don't run from the issue. But preach to your people how their hate is hurting them, and how not hating helps them.
 
The irony is the racist folks want someone to heal them of their hate.

When you think about it, it must be hard to hate someone else.

The Democrats think the solution is to say: "Don't listen to the republicans, they are preaching hate because they have no solutions to the economic problems"

It hasn't worked!

Play on the same field. Don't run from the issue. But preach to your people how their hate is hurting them, and how not hating helps them.
It’s because half those mothafuckers are frauds — racists. Ask those yuppies the last time they went to the black neighborhood and spent money at one of our businesses?
 
The irony is the racist folks want someone to heal them of their hate.

When you think about it, it must be hard to hate someone else.

The Democrats think the solution is to say: "Don't listen to the republicans, they are preaching hate because they have no solutions to the economic problems"

It hasn't worked!

Play on the same field. Don't run from the issue. But preach to your people how their hate is hurting them, and how not hating helps them.

But you are wrong there, bruh.

Their hate (xenophobic tendencies) has been helping them for centuries. It's all they know!

Once they give up the systematic hate, those "perks" disappear...and they become what they really are.

They are not going to give that up. It has to be snatched out of their hands.
 
But you are wrong there, bruh.

Their hate (xenophobic tendencies) has been helping them for centuries. It's all they know!

Once they give up the systematic hate, those "perks" disappear...and they become what they really are.

They are not going to give that up. It has to be snatched out of their hands.

Snatched out
Beaten out
Whatever
Just saying the solution is for democrats to acknowledge America has a problem

And my advice is for he Bernie’s not us
Bernie won’t snatch anything that’s on us

Also I don’t believe in the ideology of we rise they fall

That’s making the same argument they make aka zero sum game. Also last time I checked we have only 13% of the population. They have 70%. Easiest solution is for them to resolve their issue

And maybe it’s been helping them before but it’s not helping them anymore especially those poorly educated guys who tend to be the ones the republicans can con with their lies
 
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He is fucking WHITE remember

Ain't nobody loving Sanders, but comparing the platform of white people to white people..

His economic plan would of been better for US, especially in the south

But the Clinton's were so good to us, I guess. Guess we'll never know, now. Stop arguing over the loser, and find the NEXT WINNER.

These rehashed arguments are ridiculous, in the age of Trump
 
You niggas put confidence in politicians, and I don't. Never did.

Bernie ALMOST made me drink the Kool-Aid, tho' - then I heard the way he so casually dismissed the idea of reparations, and I was done.

I'm extremely upset with myself for letting my guard down.

If you ain't talking reparations, you're the enemy, whether you know it or not.

Everybody else has been acknowledged and repaired, but us?

The group of people who've been dealt the most damage can't have their issues taken seriously?

Ha.

Right.

If keeping Donald Trump out of the WH the next time came down to my vote, you better buckle up for a rocky next four years.

While I'm keeping it all the way a buck, I hope this whole shit burns to the ground if it's going to stay on the path its on.

If I have to remain a so-called second class citizen, let the whole shit collapse in on itself.

I will never accept any of this bullshit these politicians feed us, and I'm equally as angry at my people 'cause they think what they're offering is even passable.

GTFOH.


You beat me to it. I stopped fucking with Bernie on the reparation issue. He and Hillary pushed for reparations for Holocaust survivors to the tune of 60 million but he felt reparations for Black folks was "too divisive".The Holocaust didn't happen here.Why is any of our attention there when Slavery,Jim Crow, and institutional racism has been and still is happening right here on US soil? The reality is that all these CAC politicians who might fight for "Civil Rights", still don't support us being empowered economically. Bernie Sanders isn't really fighting for Black people. He is really fighting for underemployed white folks and we hope that some of it gets to us. The people I know who love Bernie the most are weird tattooed white folks who believe he is going to take from the rich and give them opportunities.
 
It is a kinda fishy quote. Liberals think Black people are their pets. Thus is why I care about specific issues more than who it's coming out of. I assess it and see if it's something I want and how to use that person to get it if I need them to.
 
I was going to post this when I saw it but figured what's the point. I like Bernie for the most part, but his separation of "black" issues from "American" issues has been evident since he got into the campaign spotlight. Only they use terms like we need to get rid of "identity politics" and people either overlook it or bypass that as applying to every other special interest but their own. He thinks financial equality or having money/jobs available solves every persons issue, he doesn't, can't or refuses to understand the racial component that is intertwined in all of this.
 
We shouldnt have any faith in any politician, democrat or repub!! This 2 party system is run and controlled by one group! Try not to get caught up in the distractions and avoid the WWE antics they throw in our faces!! Anyway, be careful navigating thru this political minefield. Research all these politicians and know who or what is funding them!!
 
Why Some Black and Brown People Can’t Trust Bernie Sanders, in 1 Quote


wkuaefmcfqmcu3cwhfbo.jpg

Eduardo Munoz Alvarez/Getty Images

There are reasons that progressive black and brown folk have had their struggles with supporting Bernie Sanders—though no one does a better job of illustrating why than the Vermont senator and former presidential candidate himself.


In an interview Monday night with Seth Meyers on Late Night, Sanders said that progressives shouldn’t pin too much of their hopes on special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation. Which is a fair-enough point. Sanders explained that the political left needs to stay focused on “attacks that we’re seeing every day in a variety of ways, not only from the Russians on American democracy.”

Sanders listed the Citizens United Supreme Court decision and vote suppression as two such attacks. Again, so far, so good.

Unfortunately, Sanders continued speaking.

As the Daily Beast reports, host Meyers then asked Sanders if he worries that Monday’s Mueller indictments could give the left false hope, pushing them away from focusing “on the ballot box.”

“Yes. I mean, I think we’ve got to work in two ways,” Sanders answered. “Number one, we have got to take on Trump’s attacks against the environment, against women, against Latinos and blacks and people in the gay community, we’ve got to fight back every day on those issues. But equally important, or more important: We have got to focus on bread-and-butter issues that mean so much to ordinary Americans.”

Sanders said those “ordinary Americans” are “not staying up every day worrying about Russia’s interference in our election.” Instead, he said, “They’re wondering how they’re going to send their kids to college” or “how they’re going to be able to pay the rent” or “whether they can afford health care.”

SKKRRRRT.

The framing is strange—Sanders juxtaposes “ordinary Americans” against women, Latinx and black people and the LGBTQ community as if they were different groups. He also frames those “ordinary Americans” and their issues as “equally ... or more important” than that of the marginalized communities he lists before.

Systemic racism and sexism regularly affect those “bread and butter” issues Sanders describes: paying for college, rent and health care. Black and Latinx families are losing wealth, not gaining it. The Trump administration’s attacks on environmental regulations can also compound the damage suffered by marginalized communities, which are disproportionately affected by global warming and environmental disasters. Black and brown people regularly give a fuck about social justice issues, like police brutality and criminal-justice reform, along with their job prospects. At the same damn time. In fact, they understand better than other “ordinary Americans” how those circles intersect.

This line of reasoning from Sanders isn’t atypical. In the spring, Sanders defended Donald Trump voters.

“Some people think that the people who voted for Trump are racists and sexists and homophobes and deplorable folks. I don’t agree, because I’ve been there,” Sanders said. The greater point the senator was trying to make was that Trump didn’t win the election as much as the Democrats lost it.

But if Sanders continues to talk about people of color and queer communities in this way, one wonders what, exactly, the senator thinks he’ll gain—and whether he values the people he’ll certainly lose.

Read more at the Daily Beast.

This bullshit is so fucking reaching, shit seems like a plant story to make non-readers dumb voters, Bernie did not say anything to slight brown or black people here, the writer is just an asshole who is trying to place words in the man's mouth or assume thoughts in his head.

Bullshit article, to sell news and or stir up the pot!
 
This bullshit is so fucking reaching, shit seems like a plant story to make non-readers dumb voters, Bernie did not say anything to slight brown or black people here, the writer is just an asshole who is trying to place words in the man's mouth or assume thoughts in his head.

Bullshit article, to sell news and or stir up the pot!
You should ask yourself if this is part of the Russian games.
 
some of yall extra sensitive.

ordinary American means the run of the mill people who work for a living.....not the 1%

so if he said ordinary Americans and black people you simple mofokrs would be screaming about that too.
 
We shouldnt have any faith in any politician, democrat or repub!! This 2 party system is run and controlled by one group! Try not to get caught up in the distractions and avoid the WWE antics they throw in our faces!! Anyway, be careful navigating thru this political minefield. Research all these politicians and know who or what is funding them!!

but hasn't that been the problem with black people and their vote ?

Not asking for shit and not demanding shit just giving our votes away and having faith that they might do something for us ?

isn't that why the black vote has no power and no value ?

Because nobody has to do anything for get our vote, we just give it away for free and have faith
 
Trust him or don't but that quote is hardly proof of anything. Contextually it makes perfect sense without any slurs. What I do see is folks starting that "political system is rigged," "they're all corrupt," "what difference does it make," "why even bother voting?" type of talk. Strange how that always begins around election time. Make careful note of the ones who are advocating such an approach. Are they wrong? Not entirely, but tell me what plan B is? That ignorant approach got us trump in the WH.
People are so shortsighted. Why do you think white people work so hard to dissuade us from voting? Why do white people work so hard to keep us from uniting? And here we are doing their work for them.
Damn shame.
 
but hasn't that been the problem with black people and their vote ?

Not asking for shit and not demanding shit just giving our votes away and having faith that they might do something for us ?

isn't that why the black vote has no power and no value ?

Because nobody has to do anything for get our vote, we just give it away for free and have faith

About a year or so ago, I said we as a people should hold these politicians feet to the fire. We need a written list of wants and needs!! If the politician agree to take on that task, were going to be on their ass.. If there not doing whats on the list, recall their asses.. The days of showing up and looking cute in a photo op and kissing babies or singing a church song are long gone! We can no long afford to fall for this bullshit anymore. If your local, state, federal politician isnt holding up their end of the promise, recall their ass. We vote them in to work for the people, we didnt vote them in to become multi millionaires at the end of their careers!!! Anyway, we cant just give our vote away!! Make all these politicians earn every fucking vote they get!!
 
So in other words... fuck identity politics and fight on policies and ideas that affect us all....

What's the issue?

Sorry militants, if democrats ever expect to win big elections they'll have to do this.

You want your particular issues raised? Better get at these local politicians. When the big dogs see that we're willing to mobilize and vote on our issues regionally maybe they'll finally take notice.
 
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