Because everyone on here knows McCain won't do shit for the black community. They wouldn't ask ANY white person the shit they trying to get Obama to do because they know the candidate would tell blacks to go to hell. But, because Obama is black he is suppose to be a super hero for the black community. get the hell out of here. It took us over 400 years to get us in this situation, do you really believe 1 black presidential election will fix all that. People need to be real. I think Obama will bring the black community up in more ways than 1, but he can't fix everything. I think he will get a lot done though, because it is in the best interest of the country to have a more stable society. He understands that. John McSame could care less.
Why are black people NOT demanding answers from John McCain?
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its not pathetic in a way..its VERY pathetic...and it explains alot in terms of we're we stand politically and why our communties are the way they are..
I don't care about mccain either but I do care about getting him on the record with direct questions such as the ones posted by geechiedan.
I think it's a bad political move for us to say because we don't intend to vote for Mcbush to not be tactical on how we abandon his ass. We need to do this politically as well as telling McBush to get the fuck out yo face. We should be more politically mature when it comes to shit like McBush.
If that makes sense.
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Ron Paul? The guy is a racist with white supremacist buddies. He despises Blacks. And if by some twist of fate he was actually in serious running for the presidency he would have to moderate his stances on a number of issues just like everyone else who has ever been in that position.
And if he was elected to the presidency do you actually think he could govern as he wanted? The simple truth is that the presidency is not a dictatorship and the president is significantly limited in his ability to effect change, so all his rhetoric concerning eliminating federal agencies would be just that. Rhetoric. He would never be allowed to do so nor would he choose to do it if he was the president. That you don't understand the limitations the president is bound by given the separation of powers and all the interests he has to cater to is unfortunate. But it is the way things are in D.C.
(we) could question him all day long, it wouldnt matter, the republicans dont "count" the "black" vote.
a republican president is still the president and as such accountable to ALL american citizens regardless of party affiliation.
although i agree with Ron Paul on a lot of issues, there are a few MAJOR issues that i do not agree with him on at all.
Hes view on the roll of government is threatning to the United States. When you Remove government from often what happens is Big buisness steps in.
id rather have government running my water, electricity, gas etc etc. because when those things are ran by big buisnes, and they aint making a big enough profit, they're cuttin your shit OFF
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this is why
and yet black people have a problem with obamas answers...
for the people who have issues about obamas record in helping the black community I challenge those people to post what mccain has done for the black community since he made that claim.
its not pathetic in a way..its VERY pathetic...and it explains alot in terms of we're we stand politically and why our communties are the way they are..
You finally put the puzzle together. Good. Atleast you realize the true answer to the question you asked in the thread title.
Exactly, most of these niggaz have never voted and will never vote again, because they think "The Messiah" is gonna answer all their prayers.
1. evangelicals expect ANY president to deal with their issues thats why candidates from BOTH sides break their necks to court their vote. Just as jews expect WHOEVER gets in office to do for them regardless of which side of the aisle theyre on. Also I don't see republicans giving up on the hispanic vote either..why shouldn't blacks do the same thing?
2. I'm not justifying anything for obama..i'm saying that both men are running for the SAME JOB which is leader of ALL of america so both men should answer the same questions and be held to flames if their answers are not good enough...not get pissed off with obama but give mccain a pass...thats bullshit..
3. Our concerns and issues exist no matter who is in office...racism in the justice is a problem for AMERICAN CITIZENS not just black folks..predatory lending is a problem for ALL AMERICANS not just black folks..As AMERICAN CITIZENS we should be demanding answers from ANYONE who wants to lead this country not just the BLACK candidate nor should we expect LESS from the white candidate just because we didn't vote for him...thats bullshit.
thats all it takes to get our vote???
not improve conditions in the black community or reform the racist judicial system or improve education in the black community...all they had to was go on bet and claim to listen to hip hop..jesus we don't ask for much do we..
1. Said who? The Evangelicals & Right-wing despised Bill Clinton, his wife, and Al Gore, and just worked their asses of to get them out of office, but none of them expected Bill Clinton to go give speeches at Bob Jones University or to ban abortion or gay-marriage and shit like that. The right were smart about it, they just galvanized their resources and voted the Democratic House & Senate into office to block anything that Clinton might try to pull, that they didn't agree with, but nobody expected the same things from him than they did from Bush.
2. But McCain's not running on the same platforms that Obama is. McCain isn't even trying to win the Black vote. When Tavis Smiley tried to get all the Republikkkans to speak to Black folks last year, they all turned him down. They don't want the Black vote, nor care about our vote at all. We can't lose McCain the election, just Obama. We can't punish John McCain.
And like I said earlier, the redneck Evangelicals can cause McCain the election, which is why you see McCain speaking at Bob Jones, and not Obama, because they're not gonna vote for Obama, they'll either vote McCain or not vote at all. Both of these candidates may make half-assed attempts to sway these groups a little bit, but they won't make a full effort, because Black people and Evangelicals are not "swing voters". We both vote the way we always do. So, you won't see Obama hangin' out with the NRA either, by the way.
3. Once again, we can't punish John McCain, because we weren't gonna vote for him either, just like the NRA can't really punish Obama. Only swing voters can really press a candidate.
Do you live in Amerikkka? We called Ronald Reagan & his wife racist everyday. Didn't do nothing to him. We voted 90% against Bush in 2000 and 2004. Didn't do nothing to him. I guess you just don't know how politics works. Politicians are accountable to the people that vote for them. It's not right. It's not fair, but it's the truth. If you read a history book, you'll see.
As for the Clinton thing. More Black people went to college in the 1990s than ever before. The economy was the best it had ever been and 20 million jobs were created. Crime went down from 1993-2005 in every urban area in Amerikkka
It's not just him, his wife and Al Gore going on BET that convinced people to vote for Clinton twice and Al Gore once. The proof was in the pudding. I don't know if you live in Amerikkka, but if you're Black and from the hood, I guarantee you that unless you were a crack dealer, your life and job opportunities in 1997 were much better than they were in 1987 and 2007. That's a fact look it up. I know y'all hate The Clintons now, so collective amnesia has set in, but in reality, the '90s were our most prosperous era in the history of this country. And that's for all Americans.
That's just incredibly naive of you to believe. Nobody cares about the people who aren't gonna vote for em. That's just how elections work.
Exactly, most of these niggaz have never voted and will never vote again, because they think "The Messiah" is gonna answer all their prayers.
the RIGHTWING despised the clintons.. evangelicals aren't just rightwing..
we can't punish john mccain but we can pressure an elected official..thats what the civil rights leaders did..
but you don't see obama crossing the nra completely either. theres a reason why they have a powerful lobby.
any group can press a candidate..a misquito can make a bear stop long enough to scratch.
calling a politcian names and pressuring a politician to deal with an issue are two different things..
crime went down because more black people were going to jail at the same time while 20 million jobs were created the 3 strike rule became law. BOTH affected the black community greatly
theres no amnesia I remember the clinton years and it was good in parts..http://jailbreakpress.org/2008/04/03/the-clinton’s-real-race-record/ and in some parts not so good..
But don't think going on BET is some sort of street cred gesture that automatically means your on my side..shit mccain showed up at an MLK ceremony guess that means he's a brother now right
nobody cares if those people don't put pressure on the candidates and make an issue of their case. The issues in the black community go beyond hoping just one candidate gets in and does right.. jews don't think or at like that..neither do redneck evangelicals as you pointed out...
Exactly, most of these niggaz have never voted and will never vote again, because they think "The Messiah" is gonna answer all their prayers.
the RIGHTWING despised the clintons.. evangelicals aren't just rightwing..
Yeah, but overwhelmingly they vote Republikkkan. How many Evangelical leaders do you know of, who are open liberals. I think Evangelical, I think Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, formerly Jim Bakker, and people like that. The people who made up the Moral Majority.
we can't punish john mccain but we can pressure an elected official..thats what the civil rights leaders did..
How did the Civil Rights leaders pressure Barry Goldwater or Richard Nixon, before he became president, other than maybe a few meetings or something for show? Our best shot was with JFK and Lyndon B. Johnson, which is why most of the work was done with them. How does a group that's not going to vote for a particular presidential candidate pressure a Senator running for president?
The only way that would work would be to convince McCain that he can get some Black votes, which he knows he's not going to get. Once he becomes president, then he becomes accountable to the whole nation, but until then, he is accountable to the people of Arizona, and his voters.
The onus is on Obama mostly, because he doesn't have a guaranteed 50 million votes, like McCain does. He only has Black people, which account for 12 percent, and rich, white, Liberal NYC/LA types. Those are Obama's only "guaranteed" votes. He has to try to gather coalitions and pull some away from McCain. McCain doesn't want or need most of Obama's strangleholds. He doesn't have Latinos "guaranteed" or any other group "guaranteed" other than Blacks and "Liberals". Even Whites who voted for Bill Clinton and Al Gore aren't guaranteed to vote for Obama. He's got his work cut out for him.
McCain however has already won the NRA vote, the Evangelical vote(they number over 100 million in America), the military vote, and overall, he's going to win the White male vote, meaning more White people and men will vote for him over Obama. Bush is really the only thing stopping McCain from doing much better than he is.
but you don't see obama crossing the nra completely either. theres a reason why they have a powerful lobby.
Obama and McCain aren't on equal footing, that's why. Obama can't afford to totally neglect the NRA. His coalition isn't as solid as McCain's is. This is why the Democrats haven't run away with the last few elections. This country is essentially run by the right-wingers and their interests. Most of Amerikkka is rednecks, hicks, and gun-nuts. Most Liberals are only on the coasts and a few in the Midwest.
any group can press a candidate..a misquito can make a bear stop long enough to scratch.
I don't know what you mean by that. If Tavis Smiley calling all the Republikkkans out, and absolutely nothing happening is an indicator, then there's really nothing you can do. There's just not that many Black people in Amerikkka, compared to those other groups. Only once McCain gets elected, is he really accountable to everybody. Up until then, he can pretty much avoid us, and it wont' hurt him at all.
calling a politcian names and pressuring a politician to deal with an issue are two different things..
What do you mean by pressure
crime went down because more black people were going to jail at the same time while 20 million jobs were created the 3 strike rule became law. BOTH affected the black community greatly
Crime started going down before the 3 strikes law. And all the laws that sent black folks to jail were passed when Reagan was in office during the '80s, like the mandatory minimums and those racist ass crack laws, passed in 1986. Crime went down because the economy was better, and more Black kids were going to college than anytime before.
I mean, all of those laws still applied up until last year, when they passed the repeal of those mandatory minimums, but crime had already started going up. By your logic, the more Black people went to jail, the less crime, but as the economy has started to slide back to where we were say 20 years ago, that's when the crime started happening again.
theres no amnesia I remember the clinton years and it was good in parts..http://jailbreakpress.org/2008/04/03/the-clinton’s-real-race-record/ and in some parts not so good..
Much better than the '80s and 2000s, though. Or do you not remember crack, Reaganomics, or Reagan cheese, or the gang wars, and all that shit? It wasn't perfect, but the best it's been in recent modern history.
But don't think going on BET is some sort of street cred gesture that automatically means your on my side..shit mccain showed up at an MLK ceremony guess that means he's a brother now right
Is John McCain in the Black Civil Rights Hall of Fame? Is John McCain the first president to have a racially diverse cabinet and advisors? I mean, like I said, I know everybody has "amnesia", but a year ago, people were still calling Bill Clinton the first Black president, and it wasn't just because he went on BET a lot, it was because since JFK, no president had even attempted to listen to what Black folks were sayin'.
nobody cares if those people don't put pressure on the candidates and make an issue of their case. The issues in the black community go beyond hoping just one candidate gets in and does right.. jews don't think or at like that..neither do redneck evangelicals as you pointed out...
There's 100 million evangelicals. They sway the elections. The Jews have the financial & media power. We don't have either one of those things. That's a fact. That's why the Democrats have always taken us for granted, because, who else are we gonna vote for?
Sorry about the "inside posting".
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