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Two Are Arrested in Ala. Church Arsons


Associated Press
Mar 8, 10:08 AM (ET)


BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) - Two young men have been arrested and a third person is being sought in the string of church arsons that destroyed or damaged nine rural churches in Alabama last month, a federal law enforcement official said Wednesday.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the formal announcement is to be made later, said the two are being charged with conspiracy and individual counts in the arsons at five Bibb County churches and four in west Alabama.

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I know most people are wondering who they are and what profile the fit.
Their identities have not been released, as yet. There will be press
conference around 1 or 2 CST.

We could be surprised ...

QueEx
 
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dacrazydeafdawg said:
were they ya typcial redneck trailer park living kkk card carrying morons?!?!

Maybe not your "typical" ....

Two are students at Birmingham-Southern College.

According to the school's website: Birmingham-Southern College is a four-year, private liberal arts institution founded in 1856 and affiliated with the United Methodist Church. For 10 straight years, Birmingham-Southern has been ranked among the top National Liberal Arts Colleges in the country by U.S. News & World Report.


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damnnnnnn they better plead insanity......prolly got caught up reading mississippi burning or some twisted shyt.......

oh well ya reap what ya sow but burning a church is a sinnnnny sin!
 
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Y'all Realize That Since The Charleston Massacre, Black Churches Are Burning

source: NBC News

Spate of Fires at Black Churches Raise Concerns of Rise in Hate Crimes


A string of fires at predominantly black churches in the South has fueled concerns about the potential for a new wave of racist violence in the days since a white gunman killed nine black worshipers in Charleston, South Carolina.

The worries persist despite FBI data showing a sharp decline in bias-motivated torchings of black churches in the past two decades and a corresponding drop in hate crimes that targeted places of worship.

Federal authorities, including the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, have joined local authorities looking into fires in Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina.

In each case, the church was severely damaged or destroyed — with congregations left wondering if they were specifically targeted by bigots.

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Glover Grove Baptist Church Pastor Bobby Jones stands outside the church in Warrenville, South Carolina.

"I'm suspicious," said Angulis Williams, the deacon at Glover Grove Baptist Church in rural Warrenville, South Carolina. His small church, with 35 active members, was gutted by fire before dawn on Friday.

Investigators haven't determined a cause. But Williams said he doesn't believe it was accidental. All of the church's electric devices had been shut off following its last service days earlier, he said.

He said he couldn't help but think of the other churches that have burned around the same time.

Two days earlier, Briar Creek Baptist Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, was set ablaze, ruining one wing of the building but sparing the sanctuary. Investigators determined that it was intentionally set.

"The next step is identifying who did it," Charlotte fire spokeswoman Cynthia Robbins Shah-Khan said. "Suspects are a top priority. We are looking for help from community."

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Fire destroys the predominantly black Briar Creek Road Baptist Church in Charlotte, North Carolina.

That fire came a day after one that heavily damaged God's Power Church of Christ in Macon, Georgia.

"We are taught to endure hardness as a good soldier," Assistant Pastor Jeanette Dudley told local NBC affiliate WMGT. "So that's what we're doing. We're enduring this. And we know that regardless of the bad situation, God is working it all for our good."

A Macon-Bibb County spokesman told NBC News Monday that the fire was being investigated as an arson but investigators have found no evidence that it was a hate crime.

On June 21, the College Hills Seventh Adventist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee was set on fire, but authorities said it appeared to be the result of vandalism, and not a hate crime.

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The fires may not have attracted such national attention were it not for the June 17 killing of nine worshippers by an avowed racist at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston. The murders prompted a backlash against the flying of the Confederate flag, a stirring eulogy on race by President Obama, and a passionate discussion of race-related violence that has divided the nation since last summer's killing of an unarmed black man by a white Ferguson, Missouri, police officer.

But church fires have a much deeper link to America's history of racial violence, the most notorious example being the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham that killed four young girls.

Mike German, a former FBI agent who went undercover with white supremacist groups, said many of them targeted black churches "because they tend to be places where people congregate, so you can harm a number of people, but also that they tend to represent something in the community."

He added, "For decades we've had this in our society. It's something law enforcement has to pay attention to. I believe law enforcement has to try to understand this problem a little better."

A series of church torchings in the 1990s led to the creation of a National Church Arson Task Force and the passage of the Church Arson Prevention Act, which made the destruction of a place of worship a federal crime. The task force found that about a third of the 670 fires it investigated involved black churches. Along with many arrests, the effort included a massive public education campaign, aimed at helping congregations protect themselves.

Since then, the number of hate crimes at houses of worship, as well as arson offenses targeting blacks, has decreased precipitously.

FBI data show that there were 321 total hate crimes against religious organizations in 1996. By 2013, the last year for which figures are available, the number had dropped to 206. Of those, 13 were motivated by racial bias.

During the same period, the number of arson offenses motivated by anti-black bias dropped from 33 to 11.

Those numbers are considered by experts to be low because of gaps in reporting.

Carl Chinn, a church security specialist who compiles data from news reports, said he still regularly sees reports of arson at black churches but nothing so far that indicates an increase.

"Most often, people attack churches simply because they are a soft target. Most often, it has little to do with the theology or culture of the specific church," Chinn said.

That is why vigilance, and cooperation with authorities, is key to preventing attacks, he said.

"The best thing happening right now is black churches joining with law enforcement and other church security professionals in their area to form coalitions that share sensitive but not classified information with each other," he said.
 
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source: NBC News

Another Historically Black Church in South Carolina Burns

Yet another black church in the South went up in flames Tuesday night, this time historic Mount Zion African Methodist Episcopal in Williamsburg County, South Carolina — 20 years after it was burned to the ground by Ku Klux Klan members.

The Clarendon County Fire Department said shortly before midnight ET that the fire was under control, but it released a photo showing the church with its roof completely collapsed.

"The fire is currently under investigations and the cause of the fire is unknown," Williamsburg County Sheriff spokesman Alex Edwards said.

Williamsburg County Fire Chief Randy Swinton told NBC News it wasn't known whether the fire was intentionally set, noting that a lightning storm passed through the area about the same time the blaze was reported. He said the 8,000-square-foot church was completely destroyed.

No injuries were immediately reported, but The Kingstree News of Williamsburg County reported that the church was "gutted."

Greeleyville Mayor Jessie Parker said state Law Enforcement Division and the U.S. Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms investigators were on site. "We're hoping by morning that we'll know something," he said.

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Historically Black Church in South Carolina Burns

It's the latest in a string of fires at predominantly black Southern churches that began after a white gunman killed nine black worshipers at Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, South Carolina, about 50 miles south of Greeleyville, on June 17.

The fires have fueled concerns about the potential for a new wave of racist violence since the Charleston shootings, and the FBI has launched an investigation.

Asked whether Tuesday's fire could be related to the other recent blazes, Mark Keel, chief of the State Law Enforcement Division, told the Post and Courier newspaper of Charleston, "Certainly, I think we all are concerned about those things."

Keel said the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and other federal agencies had been notified.

Mount Zion, founded more than 110 years ago, was burned to the ground June 20, 1995, by two members of the Ku Klux Klan, who pleaded guilty the next year.

President Bill Clinton attended the rededication of the rebuilt church a year later, speaking words that have been echoed in the last two weeks:

"It was the church that saved the people until the civil rights revolution came along. And it is, therefore, I think, doubly troubling to people ... who spent their entire lives working for equal opportunity among our people, working for an end to the hatred that divided us for too long, to see our native South engulfed in a rash of church burnings.

"We have to say to all of you who have been afflicted by this, we know that we're not going back to those dark days, but we are now reminded that our job is not done. Dr. King once said, 'What self-centered men have torn down, other-centered men can build up.'"




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Its been going on. Black twitter is late as usual.
 
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Muslim Groups Have Raised Over $52,000
to Repair Burned Black Churches​



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In a strong showing of cross-faith solidarity, a group of Muslim organizations joined to raise funds supporting the rebuilding of predominantly black churches in the South that were hit by devastating fire damage after the Charleston massacre. Only a week old, the campaign has surpassed its initial fundraising goal of $50,000 and been profiled in publications ranging from Mashable and Buzzfeed to RT and Al Jazeera America.

The campaign, started during Ramadan, was founded by a network of organizations and activists that include Ummah Wide, Muslim ARC and the Arab American Association of New York. The campaign, according to its fundraising page, was launched out of an obligation to both help communities of faith rebuild and to uplift racial and religious justice. mentioning the #WhoIsBurningBlackChurches Twitter campaign as well:

As Muslims we know the importance of protecting the vulnerable and respecting people who call on God in their various tongues. We want for others what we want for ourselves: the right to worship without intimidation, the right to safety, and the right to property. We must always keep in mind that the Muslim community and the black community are not different communities. We are profoundly integrated in many ways, in our overlapping identities and in our relationship to this great and complicated country. We are connected to Black churches through our extended families, our friends and teachers, and our intertwined histories and convergent present. Too often cowards inflict us with a crippling fear, but with encouragement and support from likely and unlikely places fear cannot stop us.​

The campaign is encouraging people to use #WhoIsBurningBlackChurches on Twitter. The hashtag has been used widely all over social media by those demanding an explanation and full investigation of the fires. The page further includes a statement from noted theologian Imam Zaid Shakir, who implored American Muslims to support the churches out of a sense of shared suffering:

"The American Muslim community cannot claim to have experienced anything close to the systematic and institutionalized racism and racist violence that has been visited upon African Americans. Unless, of course, we are talking about those of us who members of the African American Muslim community. As a whole, however, we understand the climate of racially inspired hate and bigotry that is being reignited in this country. We want to let our African American brothers and sisters know that we stand in solidarity with them during this dark hour."


SOURCE: http://www.colorlines.com/articles/muslim-groups-have-raised-over-52000-repair-burned-black-churches


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shout out to the muslim groups helping, the white media neverwould have made me believe this was possible, let alone plausible :smh:
 
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shout out to the muslim groups helping, the white media never would have made me believe this was possible, let alone plausible :smh: :rolleyes:
 
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Muslim Groups Have Raised Over $52,000
to Repair Burned Black Churches​



thats interesting. Funny how a lot of the NonBlack church going community
didnt help out. Or maybe they did...but the media just ignored it.

:dunno:

The last thing you want to show is poor white folks helping poor Blacks. How else would u be able to keep folks bickering about superficial bs like race?


Btw.....i wonder if any of those churches had insurance.
 

Who's Burning Black Churches in St. Louis?


Six houses of worship have been set on fire in the last month. Investigators
say they can’t yet determine whether the arsons are racially motivated.



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The Atlantic
David A. Graham
October 22, 2015


For the second time in six months, black churches are burning.

There have been six fires since October 8, all within a few miles of each other around St. Louis. Five have been at predominantly black churches, while the sixth was at a mixed church. Each fire has been set at the door, and while most have done minimal damage—one pastor called them “amateur hour” arsons—one nearly destroyed a building.

The situation is not unlike the arsons that followed the massacre at Emanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston this summer. As The Atlantic pointed out at the time, there’s a long history of terrorism against black churches in America, one that begins in the era of slavery and continues up through Reconstruction, the civil-rights era, and into the 1990s. But unlike those burnings—and despite the intense focus on the St. Louis area since the August 2014 death of Michael Brown in Ferguson—the recent arsons have been slow to get the same attention, either in the national media or even in the area.

If a series of attacks on churches is terrorizing, support from within the community and the nation is one comfort. Facing the attacks mostly alone seems to grate on some of the churches.

“People should be standing up and saying, ‘Hey I’m with you,’” the Revered Rodrick Burton, the pastor of one targeted church, told The Washington Post. “I’ve been surprised at the apathetic response. To me, it’s very telling, very disappointing.”

Burnings of black churches has often been a tactic for white supremacist groups. In 1995 and 1996, dozens of churches burned in the South. A special Justice Department task force eventually obtained hundreds of convictions, including Ku Klux Klan members who burned South Carolina churches. But as Emma Green pointed out in June, there are a stunning number of intentional fires at houses of worship each year—around 280 annually between 2007 and 2011—and the motives are sometimes hard to prove. Many are a result of racial animus. Some are simply set by firebugs. In some occasions, what looks initially like arson turns out to be accident. In July, during the summer arson spree, Mount Zion A.M.E. in Greeleyville, South Carolina, which had been burned in the 1990s arsons, again caught fire and was destroyed. But law-enforcement officials later determined that the Mount Zion’s fire wasn’t a crime.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives is investigating the fires. In a statement, the agency said, “We believe that this fire-setting activity is meant to send a message,” but it didn’t specify a message. ATF also said “this activity may be the result of stress experienced in the subject’s life” and said to be on the lookout for anyone who has “expressed anger or frustration with our religious community.”

In the aftermath of the Charleston shooting, a partisan divide emerged (mostly, it must be said, among white politicians and commentators) over whether the attacks were mostly a case of racial animus—after all, Dylann Roof was a self-proclaimed white supremacist who said he wished to start a race war—or whether it was an attack on Christianity, since it struck a church.

What’s interesting is how leaders of these churches deal with that dichotomy. By and large, they refuse to even countenance the idea that there might be a divide.

“This is a spiritually sick person,” said the Reverend David Triggs of New Life Missionary Baptist Church. “This is a sin issue. It’s not a race issue.” He elaborated to the Post: “It could be a black man coming against black churches. We don’t know if there’s any race barrier to this; but we know it is a sin issue and it has to be addressed as such—through prayer.”

“We are upset and we’re concerned that there’s an individual who, for whatever reason, is sick,” Michele Brown, business manager at St. Augustine Catholic Church, told the AP. “We prayed for them Sunday. There’s something wrong with someone who would do something like that.”

Burton told As It Happens that many of his congregants were old enough to remember the tense days of the civil-rights struggle, and were watching to see if there was proof of a racial motive with “bated breath.” But he also portrayed the arsons as an assault on faith, and expressed disappointment that more local churches, synagogues, and mosques hadn’t reached out in solidarity.

“Whether you practice faith or you don’t, everyone should be very concerned about that,” Burton told the AP. “Religious freedom is part of our identity as Americans.”



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/st-louis-black-church-arson/411673/


 
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Cops.
Firefighters
Arson investigators.
Hate groups
In that order.


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remember that when your house (if you own one) is on fire.


So there are no klan members that are firefighters? You're telling me a white supremacist ambulance driver doesn't just let a black victims die? A white supremacist ER doctor doesn't see a black victim and a white victim come in at the same time and doesn't choose white life? Fuck a firefighter if he doesn't look like my people. If cops and coroners slew evidence to acquit cops, why wouldn't an arson investigator who knows how fired are set and how to catch those who set them NOT be setting the fires? Add firefighters to that equation and you have a nationwide conspiracy of black churches being burned and no one ever being arrested for it.


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So there are no klan members that are firefighters? You're telling me a white supremacist ambulance driver doesn't just let a black victims die? A white supremacist ER doctor doesn't see a black victim and a white victim come in at the same time and doesn't choose white life? Fuck a firefighter if he doesn't look like my people. If cops and coroners slew evidence to acquit cops, why wouldn't an arson investigator who knows how fired are set and how to catch those who set them NOT be setting the fires? Add firefighters to that equation and you have a nationwide conspiracy of black churches being burned and no one ever being arrested for it.


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Fuck a firefighter if he doesn't look like my people.

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7th church set on fire in St. Louis area





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Another church has been set ablaze in St. Louis. It's the seventh case of church
arson in the area this month, and church leaders believe the arsonists are trying
to "send a message."


 
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7th church set on fire in St. Louis area





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Another church has been set ablaze in St. Louis. It's the seventh case of church
arson in the area this month, and church leaders believe the arsonists are trying
to "send a message."




"White church.

I think it's a diversion.
 
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I didn't take any of the comments necessarily to be analogous to the Charleston "forgiveness" statements. I though the Black pastor's words to the effect that the church (assuming that to mean all churches) needs a facelift and that "we need to take down division by denomination . . . division by traditions . . . division by tradition . . . by division nationality . . ." were interesting and on point.
 
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I didn't take any of the comments necessarily to be analogous to the Charleston "forgiveness" statements. I though the Black pastor's words to the effect that the church (assuming that to mean all churches) needs a facelift and that "we need to take down division by denomination . . . division by traditions . . . division by tradition . . . by division nationality . . ." were interesting and on point.

Good luck.

Isn't that what the turmoil in the "middle east" is all about?
 
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Police Arrest Black Suspect
in St. Louis-Area Church Fires



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Authorities charged David Lopez Jackson in the arson of two churches. He’s suspected in five others.




The Root
November 1, 2015

The police say they believe they’ve caught the person who torched churches in the St. Louis area. Authorities announced Friday the arrest of David Lopez Jackson, who has been charged with the arson of two churches, according to the Washington Post.

“Hopefully, there are more charges coming,” said St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson, referring to his belief that Jackson is responsible for the remaining five fires under investigation.

Jackson, 35, faces two counts of second-degree arson for fires at New Life Missionary Baptist and Ebenezer Lutheran churches. His bond has been set at $75,000.

Authorities say they have surveillance video of Jackson’s car at both churches. The police said investigators discovered a gasoline canister and thermos that “smelled like gasoline” in Jackson’s car.

Many suspected that the fires, spanning Oct. 8-22, were racially motivated. They came after a wave of church burnings across the South that followed the killing of nine worshipers at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C., by a white supremacist. Five of the St. Louis church burnings involved predominantly black congregations, one was a mixed-race church and the other was predominantly white.

Dotson said Jackson’s motive is unclear. It doesn’t appear to be a hate crime targeting a specific ethnic group or Christian denomination. The churches represented several denominations: Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Church of Christ and one nondenominational.​


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Police Arrest Black Suspect
in St. Louis-Area Church Fires



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Authorities charged David Lopez Jackson in the arson of two churches. He’s suspected in five others.




The Root
November 1, 2015

The police say they believe they’ve caught the person who torched churches in the St. Louis area. Authorities announced Friday the arrest of David Lopez Jackson, who has been charged with the arson of two churches, according to the Washington Post.

“Hopefully, there are more charges coming,” said St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson, referring to his belief that Jackson is responsible for the remaining five fires under investigation.

Jackson, 35, faces two counts of second-degree arson for fires at New Life Missionary Baptist and Ebenezer Lutheran churches. His bond has been set at $75,000.

Authorities say they have surveillance video of Jackson’s car at both churches. The police said investigators discovered a gasoline canister and thermos that “smelled like gasoline” in Jackson’s car.

Many suspected that the fires, spanning Oct. 8-22, were racially motivated. They came after a wave of church burnings across the South that followed the killing of nine worshipers at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C., by a white supremacist. Five of the St. Louis church burnings involved predominantly black congregations, one was a mixed-race church and the other was predominantly white.

Dotson said Jackson’s motive is unclear. It doesn’t appear to be a hate crime targeting a specific ethnic group or Christian denomination. The churches represented several denominations: Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, Church of Christ and one nondenominational.​
http://www.theroot.com/articles/new..._louis_church_burnings.html?wpisrc=newstories




New Life Missionary Baptist and Ebenezer Lutheran churches.

Two churches?

What about the others.

I need more evidence.
 
Mississippi church member charged in ‘Vote Trump’ arson


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Andrew McClinton, left, was arrested for burning the Hopewell Baptist Church in
Greenville, Mississippi on Nov. 1.


By Emily Wagster Pettus | AP

Religion
December 21 at 4:40 PM

JACKSON, Miss. — A Mississippi man arrested in the burning of an African-American church that was spray-painted with the words “Vote Trump” is a member of the congregation, the church’s bishop said.

Andrew McClinton, 45, of Leland, Mississippi, was charged Wednesday with first degree arson of a place of worship, said Warren Strain, spokesman for the Mississippi Department of Public Safety. McClinton is African-American.

McClinton was arrested in Greenville, where Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church was burned and vandalized Nov. 1, a week before the presidential election.

Hopewell Bishop Clarence Green said McClinton is a member of the church. Green said he didn’t know about the arrest until he was called by The Associated Press.


An investigation continues, but a state official said politics did not appear to be the reason for the fire.


“We do not believe it was politically motivated. There may have been some efforts to make it appear politically motivated,” Mississippi Insurance Commissioner Mike Chaney, who is also the state fire marshal, told AP.

Hopewell was founded in 1905 in the heart of an African-American neighborhood, and the congregation now has about 200 members. While some walls of the beige brick church survived the fire, the empty windows are boarded up and church leaders have said the structure will likely be razed. Rebuilding could take months.


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Mississippi church member charged in ‘Vote Trump’ arson




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Andrew McClinton, left, was arrested for burning the Hopewell Baptist Church in
Greenville, Mississippi on Nov. 1.




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Strange, all of these Black churches burned in the "deep" south and Black people are charged with doing it.

In the so called north, hardly any Black churches are burned and no Black people are accused of doing it.
 
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