When it comes to Blacks and ciminal justice most BGOL members are coons

[Upgrade Dave]

I think this thread is outstanding, and he makes valid points.

Same here.

 

[ballscout1]

I think his thread is superficial and leaves out the most important factors when it comes to sentencing.


this isn't apples to oranges, its incredible edibles.

 

[BKF]

Man in the hood there are only a handful of kats doing 80% of the dirt.. Most of the time they get away with shit, cause everyone is scared to snitch.. But deep inside most hardworking people want them off the streets but are too scared to step up and do something... However when they do get popped, for their bullshit, they couldn't give a flying fuck..
If white boys feel good about setting their killers and child molester back out on the streets to do it again, thats on them, just as long as they stay away from my people.. But push comes to shove between some dude who decided to fire a gun shot into a crowded party filled with black or the safety of the people minding their own business, well fuck that dumb motherfucker!!!!

This here...Why should I give a fuck about someone who may one day break in my house and kill/injure me and my family. Who may shoot me outside my home mistakenly or indirectly while on my way to or from work.
Do you think these low lives are saying:
"
Oh these folks are black so I should not kill or disrupt their lives."
They don't give a fuck about you and yours. Yet law abiding black folks are suppose to have some sympathy/solidarity with these law breaking coons...

 

[durham]

Pick a better case to argue the point of excessive sentencing. I hate to see any bruh have his life dictated by the US revenue service, I mean the
Judicial system....

But this dumb ass popped a gun off in a crowd of people that had nothing to do with what ever problem he was attempting to deal with. Just cause he cried in court doesn't absolve him of being unable to check his emotions.

Is the sentencing commiserate with the crime probably not, but be man enough, smart enough not to put yourself at the NON mercy of the us courts. Once he got labeled gang related, boom its a wrap.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Agree with the OP a little bit

You dudes are downright bloodthirsty when it comes to going at other black males for the stuff for the most part... i think they were taught to do

By the white establishment.

 

[FLoss]

I think his thread is superficial and leaves out the most important factors when it comes to sentencing.


this isn't apples to oranges, its incredible edibles.

Are you saying these "factors" are the same when it comes to sentencing for Blacks & Whites? Statistically, the answer is NO.

That is the issue raised in this thread. No one is absolving his guilt. When are we going to deal with the bigger issue that's been kicking our ass since we got here? Institutionalized racism.

All we do is condemn each other. This thread...nigga got what he deserved, yada yada yada. No one speaking about about the unfairness in the judicial system. Coon shit.

Publicly I never heard one white person speak out against Zimmerman or Dunn. But when it comes to us, we can't see the bigger issue of racial politics. Coon shit.

 

[southrue]

Agree with the OP a little bit

You dudes are downright bloodthirsty when it comes to going at other black males for the stuff for the most part... i think they were taught to do

By the white establishment.

The white establishment taught him to go to a college campus and open fire?

Are you saying these "factors" are the same when it comes to sentencing for Blacks & Whites? Statistically, the answer is NO.

That is the issue raised in this thread. No one is absolving his guilt. When are we going to deal with the bigger issue that's been kicking our ass since we got here? Institutionalized racism.

All we do is condemn each other. This thread...nigga got what he deserved, yada yada yada. No one speaking about about the unfairness in the judicial system. Coon shit.

Publicly I never heard one white person speak out against Zimmerman or Dunn. But when it comes to us, we can't see the bigger issue of racial politics. Coon shit.

Most of the replies are for fair sentencing and non violent offenders not going to jail. I understand the dude is young and he received a harsh sentence and greater than what whites would receive. However, we can make all the noise we want until we get involved in the justice system by doing jury duty, becoming police officers, lawyers and judges. Also, like many others stated be careful which person/case you point out as an example. Remember Rosa Parks was not the first to refuse to give up her seat, she had the most appeal. This wasn't some dude standing his ground like that lady in Jacksonville FL. I am not fully aware of the case did he take a plea or take his chance?

 

[geechiedan]

Everyone here is quick to call Clarence Thomas, who is highly conservative and the only Black Supreme Court Justice, a coon. Yet, when it comes to the fates of convicted Black criminals BGOL members side with Justice Thomas. How is that not "cooning?"

As a point of reference, I refer to the USC shooter thread. http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=791615
In that thread, most who replied agreed with sentencing a young 21 year Black man to forty years--even though he didn't take a life. That's just one instance though.

With few exceptions, throughout the years, when it comes to Black convicts, and the sentences they receive, BGOL seems to believe they got what they deserved. When it's pointed out that white convicts who committed similar crimes receive less harsh sentences the BGOL consensus opines that Black's should accept that, because that's just the way it is. How is that view materially dissimilar to Clarence Thomas's view?

Clarence Thomas thinks that because he's a successful Black man, and didn't make many mistakes, that other Blacks have the same opportunities. That's why, he would say, there is no need for distinctions based on race; nor is there need for distributive justice. Moreover, he does not believe in helping disadvantaged groups. That's why I think he's a coon.

With few exceptions, in accordance with Thomas, most of BGOL believes that Black convicts don't deserve leniency. Moreover, despite blatant sentencing disparities between Blacks and other races, most BGOL members believe Black convicts deserve whatever sentences they receive, no matter how harsh. How is that not cooning like Justice Thomas?

you keep saying but he didn't take a life when in the court system the results and the intention are taken into consideration.. thats why you have degrees of crime.. the different between manslaughter and murder is intent not just a dead body...thats why it was difficult to charge zimmerman with murder.

that dude left the campus and came back with a gun..what was his intentions in that moment? That matters

 

[gene cisco]

Merriam-webster.com defines mistake as (1)to understand (something or someone) incorrectly; (2)to make a wrong judgment about (something). Therefore, someone could commit a violent crime by mistake when he understands his options other than committing that violent crime incorrectly. Or, someone could commit a violent crime by mistake when out of fear, anger, or ignorance, he makes a wrong judgement and becomes violent, instead of calming down and thinking things out first.

But we seem to be the only ones using this 'mistake' shit when it comes to violent crime. Some cat shoots someone and it's "everyone makes mistakes" horseshit. As sure as you'll see some racist white fuck saying all black people are bad, you'll see a black person with a 'everyone makes mistakes' comment. That mentality is dangerous. People are making cold, calculated choices. But some of us always try to ignore personal responsibility.

And people understand their options, but it's just not 'cool' to some people to take them. You go to con college and you get props. It's not even embarrassing to the community. When is the fucking community going to take any fucking responsibility with this 'it's cool to go to the bing' mindset?

I still remember when I was young and folks would be told about jobs paying $8/hr. Cats would hit you with the 'that ain't no money' or wouldn't even bother to show up. Ask them why they didn't show up and they come with a bullshit excuse. The next day they talking about how they ain't got no money and need to hit a lick.

Been there done that with these street cats. Most of them aren't as dumb and helpless as folks making them out to be. They are smart enough to use the excuses SOME people make for them when it's time to pay for their crimes.

Again, let's concentrate on non-violent offenders. Your argument is valid, but not with violent offenders. Why SOME of us are so hellbent on defending those who make our communities bad is simply baffling.

I have no sympathy for violent criminals. I've seen them ruin entire communities by driving businesses out with robberies and killings. Non-violent offenders are the ones we should be worried about.

 

[BrownTurd]

Are you saying these "factors" are the same when it comes to sentencing for Blacks & Whites? Statistically, the answer is NO.

That is the issue raised in this thread. No one is absolving his guilt. When are we going to deal with the bigger issue that's been kicking our ass since we got here? Institutionalized racism.

All we do is condemn each other. This thread...nigga got what he deserved, yada yada yada. No one speaking about about the unfairness in the judicial system. Coon shit.

Publicly I never heard one white person speak out against Zimmerman or Dunn. But when it comes to us, we can't see the bigger issue of racial politics. Coon shit.

Maybe it is because most of us have never been to prison and was smart enough not to. Prison is a choice. Some of you act as if it is our fault that they are sitting in prison.

Why should I give a damn about someone who committed a crime against another fellow black man? These criminals can give zero fucks about our race because if they did I should be able to walk down any street in the hood and not have fear of being touched

 

[Bad Andy]

This is a classic case of us getting outraged when white comitt a crime against us yet ignore the fact that black on black crime is rampart. The only way we gonna get ahead is if we check ourselves first and foremost.

 

[Black A. Camus]

Maybe it is because most of us have never been to prison and was smart enough not to. Prison is a choice...

I didn't post that to imply that prison is inevitable. Because it's not. However, because of circumstances it's easier for some Brothers to get caught up than others. We shouldn't look down on the ones who get caught up, which is what all you coons are doing, and wish bad for them. Some Brothers deserve a second chance.

 

[BGLR1212000]

Black people cannot commit crimes and expect the same treatment as a white person. It ain't fair but that's how it is.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

This is a classic case of us getting outraged when white comitt a crime against us yet ignore the fact that black on black crime is rampart. The only way we gonna get ahead is if we check ourselves first and foremost.

No such thing as black on black crime....

 

[ballscout1]

Are you saying these "factors" are the same when it comes to sentencing for Blacks & Whites? Statistically, the answer is NO.

That is the issue raised in this thread. No one is absolving his guilt. When are we going to deal with the bigger issue that's been kicking our ass since we got here? Institutionalized racism.

All we do is condemn each other. This thread...nigga got what he deserved, yada yada yada. No one speaking about about the unfairness in the judicial system. Coon shit.

Publicly I never heard one white person speak out against Zimmerman or Dunn. But when it comes to us, we can't see the bigger issue of racial politics. Coon shit.

The factors I am referring to are the same..Although there is one factor that does make a difference. And the reason for the common factors go directly to that difference.

I have seen white people publicly speak out against ZImmerman and Dunn. I have also seen black people speak publicly in defense of those two.


When it comes to us we don't see the value of politics or economics in combating racial politics.

I posted the DOJ and this administration preparing to release possiblt 1000's of non violent drug offenders and got not one damn response but we can have pages on entertainment gossip.

The first move was to change the disparity on sentencing between crack and powder. Boo WHoo that ain't enough.

Then they make inroads to mandatory sentences..Boo WHoo that ain't enough.

So now gving clemency...

But we do nothing to get friendly judges confirmed.Or friendly politicans that will support these efforts.

Its like we expect those who are doing the dirt to us to have an epiphany and just change the shit on their own.

We get post after post of complaints of other groups that are mobile and active in making change for themselves while we sit on the sideline and do nothing.

We have no agenda or no movement to make the invisible agenda going but we complain.

 

[ballscout1]

The white establishment taught him to go to a college campus and open fire?



Most of the replies are for fair sentencing and non violent offenders not going to jail. I understand the dude is young and he received a harsh sentence and greater than what whites would receive. However, we can make all the noise we want until we get involved in the justice system by doing jury duty, becoming police officers, lawyers and judges. Also, like many others stated be careful which person/case you point out as an example. Remember Rosa Parks was not the first to refuse to give up her seat, she had the most appeal. This wasn't some dude standing his ground like that lady in Jacksonville FL. I am not fully aware of the case did he take a plea or take his chance?

Was his sentence to run consecutive instead of concurrent ?


agree 100% on being involved in the system.....

 

[jack walsh13]

I think this thread is outstanding, and he makes valid points.

You can be added to the Beeiii ban list too pussy cause he didn't make not one valid point. That pussy deserves the fate he got. Period. The end. You go shooting into a crowd of people you should get locked up for life.

 

[Black A. Camus]

You can be added to the Beeiii ban list too pussy cause he didn't make not one valid point. That pussy deserves the fate he got. Period. The end. You go shooting into a crowd of people you should get locked up for life.

You are unimportant. I don't value you, or your opinions. Moreover, your a Cac in a thread that discusses how Black men should view Black people who commit crimes. You don't belong here. You should either be quiet, or leave and go somewhere to discuss Cac problems with your fellow Cacs.

Added to ignore.

 

[RoadRage]

You said "usually" because those are only guidelines. Ultimately, though, judges have discretion on how to utilize those guidelines. Hence, the problem is that when it's a Black convict judges typically exercise their discretion more harshly than they do for white convicts.

In the USC shooting case, the judge didn't have to give the defendant 10 years for each victim he shot. Instead, the judge could have given the defendant, say, 5 years for each victim the defendant injured. In any case, it's likely that that same judge would have issued a lesser sentence to a white defendant.

He fucked himself over once it became premeditated, and the fact that it was at a crowded party where more people could have gotten hurt. I garentee his sentence would not have been as stiff if he were to be walking down an empty street and shot at them.

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[gene cisco]

Are you saying these "factors" are the same when it comes to sentencing for Blacks & Whites? Statistically, the answer is NO.

That is the issue raised in this thread. No one is absolving his guilt. When are we going to deal with the bigger issue that's been kicking our ass since we got here? Institutionalized racism.

All we do is condemn each other. This thread...nigga got what he deserved, yada yada yada. No one speaking about about the unfairness in the judicial system. Coon shit.

Publicly I never heard one white person speak out against Zimmerman or Dunn. But when it comes to us, we can't see the bigger issue of racial politics. Coon shit.

We do speak on the unfairness of the system when it comes to NON-VIOLENT OFFENDERS. Only a madman would champion the violent offenders who make our communities hell. We seem to be the only people on the fucking planet who try so hard to make excuses for those preying on us.

And why bring up Zimmerman or Dunn? First, there are some white people who have spoken out about them. We tend to only focus on the white Zimmerman and Dunn supporters.

Second, most people -- black and white -- tend to get quiet as fuck when interracial crime happens and the offender is of their race. So even though people know a crime is wrong, most critical of it tend to STFU and ignore the issue.

Last, if whites had the same level of violence in their communities as we do, do you think they would STFU about it? They barely put up with white trash now. Imagine if white trash were running around terrorizing other white people at or around the same levels our criminals prey on us. This nation would be on fucking lockdown. They'd probably bring back executing people shortly after the crime like they used to do. And whites would probably be demanding it.

It's sad that we make up about 65-70 percent of the homicide victims in Ohio(while only 12 fucking percent of the population). Most victims killed by other black people. And somehow wanting VIOLENT cats stretched the fuck out is coonish behavior....

Drug use and dealing numbers are the same for all races. That's why addressing the unfairness in arrests and prosecution for drug crimes is a must. Unfortunately, the violence numbers aren't even close.

Fuck violent criminals. Anyone championing violent criminals is lost and obviously doesn't care about the insane amount of violence in our communities.

 

[prowess]

Well let's see. Historically black people have always been socially conservative. Of course the intelligent modern black person rejects the conservative platform because it means we have to get in bed with racists. Not gonna happen. The non-thinking black rejects conservatism because it takes away from the social programs they depend on. I don't have a dog in that fight. But both the thinking and non-thinking black want to be comfortable in their environment. There isn't a society or community in the world that would co-sign an out of control youth firing into a crowd. Why do you expect the black American community to be any different? We don't abide dumbasses like this guy or the people that want to make excuses for him. The whole coon thing simply doesn't apply here. Comparing a desire to avoid stray bullets to underscoring Clarence Thomas is just ridiculous. I challenge you to find a member of the Supreme Court that WOULD give that fool a pass for the crime he committed. I'll check back later to see what you come up with. In the mean time realize that I'm the first person to call Clarence Thomas a lawn jockey for the right. I've been saying it for years and I'll continue to say it. He's a disgrace to us all. But people like you are way too far to the left and you're not doing black people any favors.