****What if Nash wins his third MVP?****

[Mr. Met]

He's definitely a frontrunner, and with Dirk's meltdown in the playoffs, who knows?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6774536

BTW, Russell, Wilt and Bird only others that won 3 in a row.

 

[jiggylo09]

Dirk just handed it to him!! and if I was Dallas I would trade Dirk for Garnett I bet McHale would pull the trigger on this one but Cuban won't

 

[Blunt]

He's definitely a frontrunner, and with Dirk's meltdown in the playoffs, who knows?

The voting was finished before the playoffs. It's a regular season award.

Nowitzki, from a 67-win team, will likely take the prize, but Nash probably should. He had an even better season than his previous two.

 

[idoit4theluv]

Phoenix is -3 without Nash in the game and the same goes for Dirk and Dallas. There are players that are WAAAAAAAAY more valuable to their teams and whenever they aren't on the court ALL HELL breaks loose. I understand what they're voting on, but they should change the award to best player on the best team award because it rarely has ANYTHING to do with the player with the MOST VALUE.......

 

[elchoccolatte]

I'd like to see em get it again...

 

[blaQue Ice]

Phoenix is -3 without Nash in the game and the same goes for Dirk and Dallas. There are players that are WAAAAAAAAY more valuable to their teams and whenever they aren't on the court ALL HELL breaks loose. I understand what they're voting on, but they should change the award to best player on the best team award because it rarely has ANYTHING to do with the player with the MOST VALUE.......

Definitely, Kobe, Lebron, etc ......without Nash the suns could still play well, the Lakers -Kobe...Nope The Cavs -Lebron.....NOPE etc.....

Like Shaq said " I think it's tainted"!!!!

 

[Blunt]

... without Nash the suns could still play well ...

Right, they don't need a 54% shooter from the FIeld and a 90% shooter from the Line (not to mention a 46% 3-point-shooter who also dishes out 11 assists per game while scoring 19 PPG).

Using your logic they should give the award to Paul Pierce since the Celts lost 18-in-a-row while he was injured.

 

[ShadyPat]

i think should get it but i guess the voting is done already i mean Nash is clearly means more to his team than dirk.....A lot of times in that series that boy dirk was looking like a role player even Austin Coshere showed more heart than dirk sometimes.

 

[ONE MAN GANG]

better than dirk and maybe dirk was the problem in dallas and not nash.

 

[ONE MAN GANG]

Dirk just handed it to him!! and if I was Dallas I would trade Dirk for Garnett I bet McHale would pull the trigger on this one but Cuban won't

umm they are both the same type of player. No heart and dissapear in big games.Sam I am was the haert of that wolves team that went to the WCF against LA.

 

[blaQue Ice]

Right, they don't need a 54% shooter from the FIeld and a 90% shooter from the Line (not to mention a 46% 3-point-shooter who also dishes out 11 assists per game while scoring 19 PPG).

Using your logic they should give the award to Paul Pierce since the Celts lost 18-in-a-row while he was injured.

So your Dum ass is saying that they wouldn't be any good without Nash get the fuck outta here......put Nash on the fucking Atlanta Hawks and see how much good he would do....with that cast of player around Nash you could put the worst NBA player on that team and those muthafucker would still WIN.....get the fuck outta here!!!!

 

[Mr. Met]

So your Dum ass is saying that they wouldn't be any good without Nash get the fuck outta here......put Nash on the fucking Atlanta Hawks and see how much good he would do....with that cast of player around Nash you could put the worst NBA player on that team and those muthafucker would still WIN.....get the fuck outta here!!!!

I disagree.

'Starbury' had that same cast and didn't do shit and continued that trend here in NY.

Put Nash anywhere and, like Kidd, the team gets better.

 

[idoit4theluv]

So your Dum ass is saying that they wouldn't be any good without Nash get the fuck outta here......put Nash on the fucking Atlanta Hawks and see how much good he would do....with that cast of player around Nash you could put the worst NBA player on that team and those muthafucker would still WIN.....get the fuck outta here!!!!

I agree. You'd be a fool to say that ANY TEAM wouldn't LOVE to have a player who does with Steve Nash does on the floor. But to say he does more and is more necessary to his team than other players is moronic and only spewed by people who know nothing about the game.

Trade Nash to the Lakers for Kobe and see ask yourself honestly how far they would go. Same with Lebron/Cleveland and the I could name a few more. Like someone said earlier, trade KG to Dallas for Dirk and I GUARANTEE you Dirk's (very good player) perception would change. It's nothing new though. Guys have always gotten additional credit for playing on great teams and it comes with the territory. As great as Steve Nash is, the WAY he plays is more valuable to that team than anything. Not numbers. The tempo he plays at. You can plug Tony Parker or even BREVIN KNIGHT in there and you would have similar results. Fast PG's who can keep the pace going. Brevin moreso than Tony due to his ridiculous passing ability.

 

[Spectrum]

Right, they don't need a 54% shooter from the FIeld and a 90% shooter from the Line (not to mention a 46% 3-point-shooter who also dishes out 11 assists per game while scoring 19 PPG).

Using your logic they should give the award to Paul Pierce since the Celts lost 18-in-a-row while he was injured.

Although he would enter elite company and is not be the caliber of player of a Bird, Russell, Wilt... and I still think he has a ways to go before entering the upper echelon of all-time points great points (MVP trophies aside)...

It is hard to argue against Nash for MVP. He should get the award again.


However, I think it is a testament more to the lack of fundamentally sound, pass first/shoot second point guards in this current era than a testament to his greatness. If this were the 80s and 90s., Nash would not stand out as much..he is a throwback to what point guards used to be..distributors who actually knew how to run and offense... now we have Marbury

However, with that being said... If you take Duncan away from the Spurs.. or Lebron away from the Cavs..they would suffer more. The problem is that neither of the two has had a GREAT season...good..but not great... and Nash is having a better season that his other two MVP seasons..

 

[blaQue Ice]

I agree. You'd be a fool to say that ANY TEAM wouldn't LOVE to have a player who does with Steve Nash does on the floor. But to say he does more and is more necessary to his team than other players is moronic and only spewed by people who know nothing about the game.

Trade Nash to the Lakers for Kobe and see ask yourself honestly how far they would go. Same with Lebron/Cleveland and the I could name a few more. Like someone said earlier, trade KG to Dallas for Dirk and I GUARANTEE you Dirk's (very good player) perception would change. It's nothing new though. Guys have always gotten additional credit for playing on great teams and it comes with the territory. As great as Steve Nash is, the WAY he plays is more valuable to that team than anything. Not numbers. The tempo he plays at. You can plug Tony Parker or even BREVIN KNIGHT in there and you would have similar results. Fast PG's who can keep the pace going. Brevin moreso than Tony due to his ridiculous passing ability.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!

 

[Blunt]

So your Dum ass is saying that they wouldn't be any good without Nash get the fuck outta here.....

He already proved what a difference he can make.

... put Nash on the fucking Atlanta Hawks and see how much good he would do ...

So you think the MVP award is supposed to be for the BEST player on a BAD team, rather than an outstanding player on a GOOD, WINNING team? WTF?

... with that cast of player around Nash you could put the worst NBA player on that team and those muthafucker would still WIN ...

I doubt the "worst player in the NBA" would put up Nash's outstanding numbers and/or would make his teammates more productive. Get the fuck outta here!!!

 

[John_Gault]

He's definitely a frontrunner, and with Dirk's meltdown in the playoffs, who knows?

BTW, Russell, Wilt and Bird only others that won 3 in a row.

To answer your question . . . he'll be thrice as happy.

JG

 

[cranrab]

with that cast of player around Nash you could put the worst NBA player on that team and those muthafucker would still WIN.....get the fuck outta here!

unfortunately for you, your claim has been disproven in the real world two years in a row.

2006 - suns without steve nash 0-3, suns with steve nash 54-25

2007 - suns without steve nash 2-4, suns with steve nash 59-17

edit:

excuse me, three years in a row.

2005 - suns without steve nash 2-5, suns with steve nash 60-15

 

[Mask]

im down with him winning it one mo gain

 

[blaQue Ice]

unfortunately for you, your claim has been disproven in the real world two years in a row.

2006 - suns without steve nash 0-3, suns with steve nash 54-25

2007 - suns without steve nash 2-4, suns with steve nash 59-17

0-3, 2-4 .....get the fuck out, you would have made a point if it was 25-54
or 17-59 .........0-3 amd 2-4 what the fuck is that proving, they've had that record with him...... get the fuck outta here....... Nash Nut Riders .....don't get me wrong hes good .....but like I said put him on the Hawks........

 

[cranrab]

get the fuck outta here....... Nash Nut Riders .....don't get me wrong hes good .....but like I said put him on the Hawks

steve nash nut rider?

naw, i just don't like revisionists that don't have a clear understanding of the past.

stephon marbury had shawn marion, joe johnson and amare stoudemire in the starting lineup in 2004. stephon marbury's record with the suns before being traded to the knicks was 12-22.

again, so much for your theory. stop the bullshit and come with something REAL.

 

[blkpfinder]

you said if, what u should be saying is when!!!!!

 

[idoit4theluv]

It's not that serious and you can't use those stats for a few games HERE AND THERE without a guy. The Cavs are like 11-3 without Lebron during his 4 year career. I guess you could imply from that that they're better without him. He didn't say take him off the team and not replace him! Put him on the Lakers, that's what was stated.

Also you guys bring up Stephon with the Suns but you forget that in his first full season they impressed many and played the champion Spurs extremely well in the playoffs. The following year they were decimated by injuries. Sean Marion's production was the same and you have to factor in Amare obiously is going to get better than he was his 1st 2 seasons in the league. Same wit Leandro. Joe Johnson was coming into his own and they added Quentin Richardson. Dudes say that same bullshit about the Nets. But being a 9 years season ticket holder there I can tell you the team that Jason Kidd captained was NOWHERE NEAR the same team Steph played with. J Kidd is my favorite PG in the league, but you have to look at the situaition for what it is. Steph has Kenyon Martin out wit a broken leg, same with Keith Van Horn, Kerry Kittles back was fucked up and Richard Jefferson was a major benefit to J Kidd. Don't compare what dudes did with different talent.

My final point on this MVP thing. I personally have always felt that it should go to the BEST PLAYER every year. I felt this way as a kid when MJ was getting shitted on year after year and they were honestly trying to convince people that people were more valuable than he was. It's foolish and disingenuine. My personal opinion is that I WOULD NEVER give the MVP award to ANY PLAYER who doesn't excel on BOTH ENDS of the floor. Let alone one who makes NO EFFORT whatsoever to play defense. That is why Phoenix will never win anything with Steve Nash's reluctance to play defense.

 

[idoit4theluv]

steve nash nut rider?
stephon marbury had shawn marion, joe johnson and amare stoudemire in the starting lineup in 2004. stephon marbury's record with the suns before being traded to the knicks was 12-22.

again, so much for your theory. stop the bullshit and come with something REAL.

Once again tell the whole story. What happened AFTER the trade with Steph? He went to a team that was in LAST PLACE in the conference and in coaching turmoil and dominated competition and led them into the playoffs. Did he just all of a sudden learn how to win?

 

[blaQue Ice]

steve nash nut rider?

naw, i just don't like revisionists that don't have a clear understanding of the past.

stephon marbury had shawn marion, joe johnson and amare stoudemire in the starting lineup in 2004. stephon marbury's record with the suns before being traded to the knicks was 12-22.

again, so much for your theory. stop the bullshit and come with something REAL.

How many years ago was that.....the guys you mention was not as good as they are NOW! YOU stop the bullshit and come with something REAL!!!!

 

[Spectrum]

Once again tell the whole story. What happened AFTER the trade with Steph? He went to a team that was in LAST PLACE in the conference and in coaching turmoil and dominated competition and led them into the playoffs. Did he just all of a sudden learn how to win?

Are you talking about Marbury? I didn't know there was a single person who would actually make a case for Marbury. He is the epitome of everything a point guard SHOULDN'T be.

 

[XXXplosive]

Good for him if he wins it
His numbers for this year are BETTER than his past two seasons
Would we even be having this discussion if he was black?

 

[cranrab]

Once again tell the whole story. What happened AFTER the trade with Steph?

i'm staying on point.

i'm talking about what steve nash has done with the suns, not what stephon marbury did before (with the nets) or after (with the knicks).

i'm talking about how the suns perform better with steve nash in the starting lineup, and worse without steve nash in the starting lineup.

i'm talking about how the another guard (stephon marbury) with almost the same starting lineup went 12-22 while the current guard (steve nash) has had 3 consecutive 50+ win seasons.

 

[BDR]

Right, they don't need a 54% shooter from the FIeld and a 90% shooter from the Line (not to mention a 46% 3-point-shooter who also dishes out 11 assists per game while scoring 19 PPG).

Using your logic they should give the award to Paul Pierce since the Celts lost 18-in-a-row while he was injured.

Blunt you are the fuckin worst but I have to agree with your above statement

 

[cranrab]

How many years ago was that.....the guys you mention was not as good as they are NOW! YOU stop the bullshit and come with something REAL!

son, those "guys i mention" (shawn marion, joe johnson, amare stoudemire) must've grown up REAL quick, because THE VERY NEXT SEASON after finishing 29-53 (without steve nash), the suns TIED THE FRANCHISE RECORD FOR WINS going 62-20 (with steve nash). did i forget to mention they went to the WCF that season too, which was the first time in over a decade?

coincidence?

oh, that's right. your explanation is that those players miraculously transformed into great players over that one summer.

 

[LordSinister]

Oh shit!! cranrab is Blunt!!!!

Anyway, fuck Nash. Win a championship and then I will give him props. The bitch doesn't play any D and is almost as dirty as Stockton.

 

[RoadRage]

I he wins it, it should be a warning flag about the state of today's brand of basketball!
We need to get back to the fundamentals and away from the shoot first, I-before team bullshit!
Why do you think our boys keep getting their ass handed to them in international ball, by less talent by the way!
As much as I love Jordan game on court, I think players who try to emulate his style is whats hurting the sport right now!
Instead of trying to mold kids to be the 'next' Jordan, we should be making players better team players!
Lets face it Jordan may have been an once in a lifetime player, who skills may not be matched in any of our lifetimes!

 

[cranrab]

Oh shit!! cranrab is Blunt!

oh shit! lordsinister is dr. truth!

 

[ruff-a-reek]

somebody said put nash on the atlanta hawks and lets se how good he would be. if u put nash on the hawks they would be a top 3 team in the east easily with that team. imagin him runnin the floor with josh smith and josh childress. nash would make josh smith an all-star for yrs 2 come.plus he all ready knows how 2 play with joe johnson and joe can already create his own shots. i am sayin the hawks with nash is basically the nets when jason kidd arived but just a smidget better because of joe johnson. all the hawks needed was a PG any way but they fucked that up by not drafting chris paul.

 

[Mask]

if he wins i will be strait with that, cause he should be the M.V.P. hands down
numbers better than the past two that he won it, I don't care what everybody else does, I'm a King James fan, but If he win i'm kool with that