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What do intelligent black women think about McClain picking a woman for Veep?
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I don't think Obama per se is the lesser of two evils, but his party I'm not so sure. I don't think he is the type of person who would be used by the party and he stands on his principals; I like this.
Let me reiterate I like Obama and his stance. I have been hearing his take on certain issues before his presidential race started and has made some very great points. However I am more wary now of the consequences of his election that I might have been before. Could this be why there are certain things I have not heard of from him of late? Is there something else I am missing?
I too believe Obama will stand on his principals. I for one feel right now he is "the choice." The other option is not an option. McCain is as out of touch with what the people want as is Bush. I mean the thought of another 4 years is too much to bear.
As for the democratic party they will get their acts together with Obama in charge. Remember all the HORs and Senators must be relected, so they have no choice. The people have begun kicking out politictions out of office that ignore the will of the people.
But what are the "certain things" you have not heard of from him? I only expect him to try and get this country back on the right track. I do not expect Obama to leed us to the promised land. I'm not expecting any miracles. Just for the man to do the job he's promised to do nothing more.
Obama cannot afford to reveal certain plans 'ahead of time' if he wants to win.so I believe he is SAVING alot of substantive policy 'specifics' for the one-on-one debates with McCain in the future.
Once he 'tips his hand' the Republicans will go on the attack:
1. First they will try to criticize / debunk any solid ideas.
2. While trying to steal them at the same time so that they can claim they 'came up with the idea first'.
They are like those students who 'peek over your shoulder' to cheat on an exam...
IMO, if you are looking for something 'that works for you' you should definitely tune-in once they take the stage together.
Stay tuned.
You might be on to something there. Why can't they just put all the cards down and then debate? They want to debate on issues coming out at the debate it seems
. Perhaps I am putting too much faith in human and structural simplicity.
I'm independent, but the dumb asses touting Palin as a legitimate VP candidate know nothing of this woman. The only positive thing that she brings to the ticket is the fact that Hillary's bitter bitch brigade can now latch on to her instead of supporting Obama (despite the fact that she has nothing in common with their core views ). Mcstain could have picked a number of other legit republican females to put on the ticket. Back to Palin, when she was mayor of Wasilla, this dumb broad took a town of 9,000 people and ran up a 20 million dollar debt. She is currently under investigation for her involvement in the firing of a state trooper (who happened to be in a messy relationship with her sister ). This broad is used to governing over lumberjacks, moose, and salmon and you think she is capable of being 2nd in power behind a broken-armed, arthritic, dumb assed old man who already has one foot in the grave 
...Bitch Please !!!
...and did I mention her scandals involving Senator Ted Stevens and Rep Don Young....
). Mcstain could have picked a number of other legit republican females to put on the ticket. Back to Palin, when she was mayor of Wasilla, this dumb broad took a town of 9,000 people and ran up a 20 million dollar debt. She is currently under investigation for her involvement in the firing of a state trooper (who happened to be in a messy relationship with her sister ). This broad is used to governing over lumberjacks, moose, and salmon and you think she is capable of being 2nd in power behind a broken-armed, arthritic, dumb assed old man who already has one foot in the grave ...Bitch Please !!!...and did I mention her scandals involving Senator Ted Stevens and Rep Don Young....
Are you calling him McClain on purpose?
Hillary supporters really have nothing in common with Palin. She's a staunch conservative that hunts and believes in creationalism; she doesn't even believe in abortion in cases of incest or rape. The feminazi militant Hillary supporters won't stand for that at all. The PUMAs (Political Unity My Ass angry Hillary group) however is another story. They were never going to vote for Obama anyways. Overall, I would say this make McDeath look like a desperate man who didn't fully vet his VP. I bet Romney is livid.
Hillary supporters really have nothing in common with Palin. She's a staunch conservative that hunts and believes in creationalism; she doesn't even believe in abortion in cases of incest or rape. The feminazi militant Hillary supporters won't stand for that at all. The PUMAs (Political Unity My Ass angry Hillary group) however is another story. They were never going to vote for Obama anyways. Overall, I would say this make McDeath look like a desperate man who didn't fully vet his VP. I bet Romney is livid.
KJXXXX...
You heard her speak... Where, because usually Mayors don't have a large political forum, unless you are mayor of a large metropolitan area, like NYC... more recently New Orleans.. she has only been governor for a year and a half.. And in Alaska, they have a mostly homogeneous population, how can what she may have done here benefit such a diverse population such as the US. Its one thing to be objective, its another to be considered an idiot. McCain thinks Americans are idiots, his choice is obvious. I mean, really, no one heard of this lady until recently (except you.... lol). There could have been many other candidates that would have made his campaign "stronger." Looking for someone youthful, Mitt Romney. This is sooooo suspect, this isn't picking sides, its siding with common sense. McCain is proving that this is all a game to him and his agenda is in favor of Americans with wealth.
And Bush... helping African nations... how does that solve the problems here in America. I am a firm believer in fixing home before you can fix anywhere else. Sure Bush has appointed several African Americans in "high power positions" but are they really there or filling quote. Spook Who Sat by the Door anyone?? Numbers don't mean shit. And I think, and I firmly think this, after the Bush presidency Condy Rice and Colin are going to rethink their political positions. I strongly feel that Condy is regretting some things and is just biding her time until someone else is appointed... But thats my opinion
This thread is full of Supercilious fuckery.
Just shows me my thoughts of McCain nott knowing what he's doing confirmed. He only met her once and decides to choose her as VP? She has even LESS experience than Obama, so they can't even play that shit anymore. And right now she's in a scandal about some polar bears or some shit. There's so much I can say it's pointless to go on.
"real niggas"?
He really did play dirty on this one. I have a hard time believing it is an ineffective strategy. Of course, I don't like Obama personally, and I think his testicles are in Michelle's pocket(If you are reading this Michelle, My number is (314)973-0388...Fuck that lame...I'm the ONE!). Other than that, these dudes have shown me how weak they are. I mean really, Obama has yet to specifically spell out HOW is going to reduce college prices, improve the economy, and that speech at the DNC wasn't one of those "historic" type speeches(I really hate I was born in the 70s). Obama is the window of opportunity for real niggas to get ahead and make shit happen. Without the George Washingtons the Thomas Jeffersons of the world would be raped and made to wear mohawks and tight pants...I'm just saying....
"real niggas"?
Are you calling him McClain on purpose?
Hillary supporters really have nothing in common with Palin. She's a staunch conservative that hunts and believes in creationalism; she doesn't even believe in abortion in cases of incest or rape. The feminazi militant Hillary supporters won't stand for that at all. The PUMAs (Political Unity My Ass angry Hillary group) however is another story. They were never going to vote for Obama anyways. Overall, I would say this make McDeath look like a desperate man who didn't fully vet his VP. I bet Romney is livid.
Dry wit, my fault, Princess...
Like in klan...not an Obamite...just not a goddamn idiot either...
Just shows me my thoughts of McCain nott knowing what he's doing confirmed. He only met her once and decides to choose her as VP? She has even LESS experience than Obama, so they can't even play that shit anymore. And right now she's in a scandal about some polar bears or some shit. There's so much I can say it's pointless to go on.
"real niggas"?
My fault....
....I still got some work to do....thanks for the check up...
im still analyzing all this
when i first heard the news of his vp pick...i first asked: "why a woman?"
i think some of it has to do with mccain and his whole "maverick" reputation...how could the "maverick" of the republican party continue business as usual in washington when running against obama the change agent?
i wasnt surprised he did something shocking so he can also bank off this "historic election" hype
i think the most important...and obvious reason why a woman was chosen because they wanted the disgruntled hilary supporter vote...which makes no sense...why would a liberal lesbo hilary supporter do a full 360 to support a conservative hockey mom?
its merely a tactic the republicans are using this time around to win...in the past they have framed an election around irrelevant moral issues....and outright stolen another...so im not surprised they would pull some shit like this to win
then i asked myself....why her
on the surface she looks as wholesome as apple pie...shes young...attractive...with kids....she seems approachable and relatable...which might be a reason why she was chosen
not to mention she is the governer of alaska....which means i see them addressing one of the major concerns of americans: domestic drilling....not quite sure why it would take the governor being vp to get that accomplished...but whatever
at the end of the day...i think sadly she is merely a token
on one hand im happy that a woman was finally given a opportunity to possibly be vice president...i hope it will open doors for other women in the future
but on the other hand im upset and almost offended that she was chosen more so because she has a pussy...not because she was the most qualified person for the job
this could be the most brilliant...or most idiotic move in our political history...unless McCain has something under his sleeve it looks like it will be the later
when i first heard the news of his vp pick...i first asked: "why a woman?"
i think some of it has to do with mccain and his whole "maverick" reputation...how could the "maverick" of the republican party continue business as usual in washington when running against obama the change agent?
i wasnt surprised he did something shocking so he can also bank off this "historic election" hype
i think the most important...and obvious reason why a woman was chosen because they wanted the disgruntled hilary supporter vote...which makes no sense...why would a liberal lesbo hilary supporter do a full 360 to support a conservative hockey mom?
its merely a tactic the republicans are using this time around to win...in the past they have framed an election around irrelevant moral issues....and outright stolen another...so im not surprised they would pull some shit like this to win
then i asked myself....why her
on the surface she looks as wholesome as apple pie...shes young...attractive...with kids....she seems approachable and relatable...which might be a reason why she was chosen
not to mention she is the governer of alaska....which means i see them addressing one of the major concerns of americans: domestic drilling....not quite sure why it would take the governor being vp to get that accomplished...but whatever
at the end of the day...i think sadly she is merely a token
on one hand im happy that a woman was finally given a opportunity to possibly be vice president...i hope it will open doors for other women in the future
but on the other hand im upset and almost offended that she was chosen more so because she has a pussy...not because she was the most qualified person for the job
this could be the most brilliant...or most idiotic move in our political history...unless McCain has something under his sleeve it looks like it will be the later
Are you calling him McClain on purpose?
Hillary supporters really have nothing in common with Palin. She's a staunch conservative that hunts and believes in creationalism; she doesn't even believe in abortion in cases of incest or rape. The feminazi militant Hillary supporters won't stand for that at all. The PUMAs (Political Unity My Ass angry Hillary group) however is another story. They were never going to vote for Obama anyways. Overall, I would say this make McDeath look like a desperate man who didn't fully vet his VP. I bet Romney is livid.
Unfortunately, some people aren't that adept. I heard a gay man say that he's excited at the possibility of a woman getting into office and would vote for her - REGARDLESS OF HER VIEWS - even though she doesn't support gay marriage, is pro-life, doesn't think that humans caused global warming and is a lifelong member of the NRA. His is the type of vote they're counting on - blind and misinformed. They basically provided an alternative to Obama for those on the fence who were willing to bite no matter how much bullshit they pack around it.
My first reaction was that it was a desperate attempt to steal votes from the democrats. They even set it up by having female advisors interviewed in the days prior to the announcement discussing what McCain had to offer disgruntled Hillary supporters.
I know its all bullshit and its all overwhelming, but the notion of not voting at all is misguided at best. Unless you're going to back that up by moving to another country, you're stuck with the rest of us. Make your voice heard. If everybody did that all of the time, we might actually, eventually, get somewhere.
McCain's sleeves are too short for this one.
I think he's a puppet too - just like GW - for the republican machine.
I think this is a ruse.
I think she'll bow out gracefully soon and they'll introduce the real VP pick.
I think this was all designed to steal Obama's thunder from the DNC and create a buzz because NOBODY was interested. A sensible VP pick would have been uneventful. They needed to rock the boat and they got her to agree to put her family on the chopping block to advance her career and get what she needs for the Alaska - for her its all about offshore oil, gas and polar bears...
http://blogs.takepart.com/2008/08/0...-decision-to-list-polar-bears-and-endangered/
It's all over TV and the internet, its all we're talking about...Mission accomplished...
i like the way you think....this crossed my mind also
speaking of the women polticans....they interview kay bailey hutchison after they announced the pick...and she said she didnt know the woman
i think this will happen also...but not by mccain's choice...he will be forced to do so
if this was a scam its the worst ever cause he has royally fucked himself up
if he keeps her its political suicide
if he lets her go hes going to loose all crediblity as a decision maker and leader (as if he had any to begin with..lol)
He really did play dirty on this one. I have a hard time believing it is an ineffective strategy. Of course, I don't like Obama personally, and I think his testicles are in Michelle's pocket(If you are reading this Michelle, My number is (314)973-0388...Fuck that lame...I'm the ONE!). Other than that, these dudes have shown me how weak they are.
Thought provoking post bruh...But politics, has ALWAYS been dirty. And what do you have against Obama, personally? Please share.
McCain's VP choice was obviously purely a ploy to try and round up those Hilary supporters who were voting for her on the basis of being a woman. Not only that, but it is also a move to show how "serious" he is about our oil crisis (Alaska = oil reserves).
I don't understand needing the Gov. to gain access to Alaskan oil..can you explain your reasoning?
As a man who has watched football for over 40 yrs, please explain this Wild card to me. Are you talking about a wild card in the playoffs? That's neither random nor unlikely to be a viable competitor. You have to PLAY your way into the wild card position, thus it's not random. And by the time you get to that level of competition, you have to take EVERY TEAM seriously.
Gotta admit it. you make a strong point.
We're a republic, not a democracy...as in the line from the pledge of allegiance..."and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands"
Nothing new about politicians being about political gains and cutting throats.
I don't pretend to know what or how Obama was thinking on not picking Clinton as his VP. IMHO, she simply wasn't a good fit.
I'm independent, but the dumb asses touting Palin as a legitimate VP candidate know nothing of this woman. The only positive thing that she brings to the ticket is the fact that Hillary's bitter bitch brigade can now latch on to her instead of supporting Obama (despite the fact that she has nothing in common with their core views
She's more inline with the hardcore conservatives than McCain, and I believe that PART of the reason she was chosen was to appease the ultra conservatives. Snatching some ex Clinton supporters is killing 2 birds with one stone.
Switching VP candidates in an election is suicide...was it the 72 election when McGovern picked Tom Eagleton to run with him. (going off memory..too lazy to double check)they found out Eagleton had been subjected to shock treatments of some kind to battle mental illness, so they switched VP's.
Alotta good points were raised in this thread, along with alotta conjecture, rumor, hype, and opinions...passed off as facts. Chuck D once said that rap was the Black CNN...or something to that effect. I think BGOL has replaced rap as the NEW Black CNN
Oh yeah, one more thing..melon, it sounds like you're more concerned with local elections...nothing wrong there. Often, the decisions made on the local level have a more immediate impact on our lives. However, too many people fought and died for us to have the RIGHT to vote. If you're not Black, then that may not mean anything to you. But with this being the 88th anniversary of women gaining the right to vote, that should give you a lil more motivation to get out the vote. Forgive me Colin.
Thanks, I thought I was the only one.
Addendum to my previous post...I find it kinda odd and ironic that around the same Tom Eagleton was kicked to the curb (by his own party) for past shock treatments, McCain was being tortured in a POW camp. He's considered a hero and a potential US president. I'm curious as to what was done to him and by whom.
Just as you have to be born in the US to run for president, I feel you should be disqualified if you have long periods of time that you can't explain your whereabouts...especially if you were held as a POW, tortured and possibly brainwashed. This McCain candidacy is truly life imitating art. And when you consider that McCain was captured 5 years after the Manchurian Candidate was released in theatres... I dunno..WAYYY too many parallels.
Just as you have to be born in the US to run for president, I feel you should be disqualified if you have long periods of time that you can't explain your whereabouts...especially if you were held as a POW, tortured and possibly brainwashed. This McCain candidacy is truly life imitating art. And when you consider that McCain was captured 5 years after the Manchurian Candidate was released in theatres...
I dunno..WAYYY too many parallels.Addendum to my previous post...I find it kinda odd and ironic that around the same Tom Eagleton was kicked to the curb (by his own party) for past shock treatments, McCain was being tortured in a POW camp. He's considered a hero and a potential US president. I'm curious as to what was done to him and by whom.
Just as you have to be born in the US to run for president, I feel you should be disqualified if you have long periods of time that you can't explain your whereabouts...especially if you were held as a POW, tortured and possibly brainwashed. This McCain candidacy is truly life imitating art. And when you consider that McCain was captured 5 years after the Manchurian Candidate was released in theatres... I dunno..WAYYY too many parallels.
Just as you have to be born in the US to run for president, I feel you should be disqualified if you have long periods of time that you can't explain your whereabouts...especially if you were held as a POW, tortured and possibly brainwashed. This McCain candidacy is truly life imitating art. And when you consider that McCain was captured 5 years after the Manchurian Candidate was released in theatres...
I dunno..WAYYY too many parallels.
Okay, Elderly Presidential Candidate chooses a virtually unknown, inexperienced, female as his running mate. That's a Wild Card ticket. Of course they worked for it. Doesn't make them viable tho. I think the Republican party has more to offer.
vs
Facing the momentum of a Democratic Candidate with a seasoned Vet as a running mate. Monumental following and respect. U.S. in the making. In this case, if you are not a winner, you are a loser...
The final stretch.
Gimmie the news soon as you hear it...
vs
Facing the momentum of a Democratic Candidate with a seasoned Vet as a running mate. Monumental following and respect. U.S. in the making. In this case, if you are not a winner, you are a loser...
The final stretch.
Gimmie the news soon as you hear it...
Addendum to my previous post...I find it kinda odd and ironic that around the same Tom Eagleton was kicked to the curb (by his own party) for past shock treatments, McCain was being tortured in a POW camp. He's considered a hero and a potential US president. I'm curious as to what was done to him and by whom.
Just as you have to be born in the US to run for president, I feel you should be disqualified if you have long periods of time that you can't explain your whereabouts...especially if you were held as a POW, tortured and possibly brainwashed. This McCain candidacy is truly life imitating art. And when you consider that McCain was captured 5 years after the Manchurian Candidate was released in theatres...
Exactly! America loves heros and I'm still trying to understand how getting shot down, captured by your enemy and sitting out the war in captivity equates to being a hero. In the 5 years he spent in captivity did he even try to get away? We know he twice tried to hang himself. Is that what a leader would do? To me it shows a lack of mental toughness.
5 years is a long time to be under the control of your enemy. I'm not sure you can trust anyone who has been subjected to torture for that long of a period. So is McCain a hero or just someone who endured the war?
Wow. This is the dumbest thing I've ever read. And I don't even like McCain.
dyin
anyway....your sig is hot
What type of fuckery is your avatar?
hahaha
Co-sign!
I'm not even going to get into the nuances of how stupid that shit is.
They should have just killed or paralyzed his ass. Seriously.
Co-sign!
I'm not even going to get into the nuances of how stupid that shit is.
They should have just killed or paralyzed his ass. Seriously.
Yep - He was givin up SOMETHING to stay alive for 5 years...the real heroes died for NOT givin up the info...
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