Papoose should of dropped that album already especially with the 50 cent buzz he "had" in early 06. I think that Busta and Kay Slay fucked up by not pushin his album to be release at least a Month after Hip hop is Dead. Pap should of sign with Nas and Def Jam. And his Features Tony Yayo and Jim Jones he could of did alot better
Was Papoose mishandled?
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papoose buzz is gone...just another street legend that was mishandled by dj kay slay..... pap should sign..but when you have a nukka behind you who is money hungry..and again...who fucks with kay slay anyway?? nukka is just a dj trying to be a a&r rep...his time has come and gone..needs to take note from funk master flex.
papsmere got alot of money invested in him his album will drop, his buzz is declining rapidly much like that of Saigon. Can he be a marketable commodity in this so called hip hop enviornment, No! He has a song with the Neptunes for Christsakes, how stupid will that be, with that said the kid is talented just boring. He s Lupe without the white skater fanbase!!
ronnie said:
bingo..but all that money he got from jive is basically advance money...half his money is already spent...by the time his album drops..the hype would already pass...when was the last time jive promoted an hip hop artist to the full degree??
he's busta peeps..but busta status dont sell...should just be independent...and let the street buzz come knocking for a major deal.
sometimes it seems like they are trying to go the rags to riches route..same as when 50 cent hit the market...mixtape after mixtape..and bam..sign to a deal...not going to happen though...if the album doesnt drop by this summer..better call it a wrap.
yeah once you have buzz you have to hit them with the album.
50 Cent was different though. He is more marketable then papoose. I mean have you seen papoose? he does not have no charisma, and he has nothing appealing to make you interested.
Plus when he raps he style is not polished enough for the mainstream audience.
50 Cent was different though. He is more marketable then papoose. I mean have you seen papoose? he does not have no charisma, and he has nothing appealing to make you interested.
Plus when he raps he style is not polished enough for the mainstream audience.
50 cent buzz??edgotti said:
are u serious?
no one west of the mississippi has ever heard of him.
and a rapper that is being cosigned by a dude (kay slay) that goes on the radio threatening (white) record execs is a rapper,
that
aint
going
NOWHERE.
I think he's still gonna blow,he just need to get his buzz back.
how you do that?: couples features, couple mixtapes, a few remixes, and add a lil beef. And you got ur buzz back.
how you do that?: couples features, couple mixtapes, a few remixes, and add a lil beef. And you got ur buzz back.
Let me make it absolutely clear...Nooone outside of New Yorkers are gonna "buy" dudes shit, and most of yall are gonna download it! He need to try again in another life cuz he will not blow in this one. Sorry NY!
Yes, was mishandled...but there are plenty of much more talented hip-hop artist not getting ANY kind of promotion even close to what Pap had (Jean Grae, Abstract Rude, MF Doom, Eulorhythmics, Edan, Murs...and the list goes on...)
Slimbig said:
There is a market for real hip hop, the phony just needs to continue to get exposed. There is already an underground grassroots movement attacking the Clear Channel monster. People in the streets actually want to hear less thug, pimp, hustling drugs, baby mama drama, and jewelry mess. People out here have kids and they don't like the fact that Clear Channel(along with Viacom) is in the business of promoting "opinions" and "values" to the minds of our very impressionable youth. A responsible community can't overlook that period.
I am not mad at cats who made it of the same thug, hoes, drugs, clubbing, and balling formula that is now THE STANDARD. The problem is that crackkas are telling the DJ's what to play. Also there is no balance in what gets played. Back in the day it was the DJ who used to break the records to the public(you youngins do not know shit about that
). The aspect of the DJ bringing out new talent was a hip-hop staple for a long time. That aspect of hip hop is now dead and buried. Corporations decide what gets on the air. The DJ is just a front now. The ones who grind in the clubs are keeping it alive. The ones on the airwaves are faking the funk.
On a side note: I personally believe Clear Channel is a division of the US milliatary. One way to subjugate a people is to control what they can listen to. Keep them on some petty, fantasy, and brain-dead shit. Music is a powerful tool. Right now the enemy is using it to oppress us. We need to take it back to the streets so that it will free us. We will never have a real revolution unless we have the music. Right now Clear Channel and Viacom all play reactionary music.
I am not mad at cats who made it of the same thug, hoes, drugs, clubbing, and balling formula that is now THE STANDARD. The problem is that crackkas are telling the DJ's what to play. Also there is no balance in what gets played. Back in the day it was the DJ who used to break the records to the public(you youngins do not know shit about that
). The aspect of the DJ bringing out new talent was a hip-hop staple for a long time. That aspect of hip hop is now dead and buried. Corporations decide what gets on the air. The DJ is just a front now. The ones who grind in the clubs are keeping it alive. The ones on the airwaves are faking the funk.On a side note: I personally believe Clear Channel is a division of the US milliatary. One way to subjugate a people is to control what they can listen to. Keep them on some petty, fantasy, and brain-dead shit. Music is a powerful tool. Right now the enemy is using it to oppress us. We need to take it back to the streets so that it will free us. We will never have a real revolution unless we have the music. Right now Clear Channel and Viacom all play reactionary music.
jay said:
I'l do you one better homie, that 1.5 million was gone way before Pap seen it. Think like this, Slay gets his 1st through streetsweeper, lets say that about a quarter of it. Then Busta gets his cause its also through Flipmode, he'll get slightly more than a quarter. This is his deal which means his advance, promotions, recording costs and all that goes through that. You're not getting a 1.5 million dollar advance just for you, that's bogus. He really didn't cake off that much. Then the fact he's going through 2 different labels and then Jive before he gets one red cent (Flipmode and Streetsweeper) he's gonna have to hustle alot harder than he is
THE DRIZZY said:There is a market for real hip hop, the phony just needs to continue to get exposed. There is already an underground grassroots movement attacking the Clear Channel monster. People in the streets actually want to hear less thug, pimp, hustling drugs, baby mama drama, and jewelry mess. People out here have kids and they don't like the fact that Clear Channel(along with Viacom) is in the business of promoting "opinions" and "values" to the minds of our very impressionable youth. A responsible community can't overlook that period.
I am not mad at cats who made it of the same thug, hoes, drugs, clubbing, and balling formula that is now THE STANDARD. The problem is that crackkas are telling the DJ's what to play. Also there is no balance in what gets played. Back in the day it was the DJ who used to break the records to the public(you youngins do not know shit about that
On a side note: I personally believe Clear Channel is a division of the US milliatary. One way to subjugate a people is to control what they can listen to. Keep them on some petty, fantasy, and brain-dead shit. Music is a powerful tool. Right now the enemy is using it to oppress us. We need to take it back to the streets so that it will free us. We will never have a real revolution unless we have the music. Right now Clear Channel and Viacom all play reactionary music.
come on bruh..there is no market for real hip hop!!..hip hop is what rock and roll used to be for the african american..hip hop today is tooo mainstream to even think about going back to the roots..record labels notice what sells and what does not sell...you gotta think..what the average age a person buy an actually cd??? 11-22 years of age...notice how artist like bow wow, dl4, other silly ass rap acts/groups...its because of the age limits that are being cater to sell rap...hip hop will never go back to what it used to be...only thing we can do is prevent it from going totally white...but niggas these days are all about money...not the craft..main reason why these nukkas who actually can spit dont get their project lifted from the shelves.
jay said:
Of course there is a market. The powers that be don't want to cater to that market. Like I said not everybody in the black community embraces what is being shoved down our throats. Also you missed my point about the DJ breaking an artist instead of a label forcing an artist on you. I agree it will never be what it once was. However if we let things continue as it is now and continue to forsake the roots, I predict in 20 years black rappers will not be mainstream. It will be all white, asian, and latino.
Was papoose mishandled? :
well... shit is slippery, so the answer may infact be yes.
well... shit is slippery, so the answer may infact be yes.
Bottom line is, Busta, Slay and whoever else could have pushed as hard as they wanted. Even gone on the radio ant threatened Execs. However until one of them becomes CEO of WEA,Interscope,BMI,BMG, etc., People far higher up in the foodchain then they make those decisions. If the top man listens to your shit and decides its not worth the money to put it out, then its a wrap for you and you will probably be stuck unable to record until your 2 album deal with option for 5 more deal is done.
man I always thought dude was overhyped
I mean yea he can go but theres nothin about him that says superstar
what the french call a certain I dont know what
I mean yea he can go but theres nothin about him that says superstar
what the french call a certain I dont know what
peace
Album Drops in May
He brought an interesting philosophical perspective to the table but muggs are so dumbed down and out, not sure who the core audience who can appreciate it past his 'educated thugs' & straight up jail kats
Chess
Monopoly
Law Library
Black Demo-crat
Shoot up the Club
Getting Guap
Kid's been spitting since the late 90s so would HOPE he KNOWS how to exploit a specific angle with his oppoortunity that can and will benefit him realistically and properly
Hey, the kid has like what 15+ mixtapes out and counting?
He should know how to get that $ even when the rest drop the ball
peace
Album Drops in May
He brought an interesting philosophical perspective to the table but muggs are so dumbed down and out, not sure who the core audience who can appreciate it past his 'educated thugs' & straight up jail kats
Chess
Monopoly
Law Library
Black Demo-crat
Shoot up the Club
Getting Guap
Kid's been spitting since the late 90s so would HOPE he KNOWS how to exploit a specific angle with his oppoortunity that can and will benefit him realistically and properly
Hey, the kid has like what 15+ mixtapes out and counting?
He should know how to get that $ even when the rest drop the ball
peace
big papoose fan here i think his buzz is going down i dont check for him as much anymore.hope he drops the album soon tho....yall remember when jae hood was that dude peeped every verse he spit an that nigga kept saying tails from the hood coming soon. i think its been 6 years album still never dropped hope same doesnt happen to pap but even if it does he already signed the record deal an got his money
hope same doesnt happen to pap but even if it does he already signed the record deal an got his money
Papoose needs to get shot in the mouth and pick up a souther accent. Then just diss everybody until somebody notices him.
Nah seriously though K slay has fucked up him and Grafh who i think is nicer than Pap anyway. K slay just got new york in mind and new york alone aint gunna cut it.
Nah seriously though K slay has fucked up him and Grafh who i think is nicer than Pap anyway. K slay just got new york in mind and new york alone aint gunna cut it.