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Here is a quick clip from the Black in America series, on The Last Word, the commentator brings up alot of facts and issues.

Are we socially engineered to be separated? Have we adjusted our lives, for means of survival? What are your thoughts on the clip and the series, as a whole?

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2008/07/24/last.word.07.24.cnn

 

[sirwoodz]

most black people do not see this as a problem though...in fact, most of what they talked about or showed on that CNN doc is NOT seen as a problem by our community at large, especially younger black people.

so then the question becomes "how do we make them see it as a problem?"...and the answer is simple: you don't.

these things are so deeply embedded in our culture, a few cameras running around the hood for a few days won't change anything and people are fooling themselves if they think it will.

 

[geist]

Yeah, I think we are socially engineered to be separate. But I think we are at fault for accepting it. A couple of points in history we've been on a come up and got smacked down and set back generations. So yeah, that is a form of social engineering.

The thing is, black women have always been able to find work or some way to provide. While black men haven't and that's a detriment to the black family right there, because that's not the way it's supposed to be. That's alienation of the black man from his own family. Society tells you a man that can't provide for his family is not a man. If a white man fucks up, "He's young, we'll give him a pass", if a black man fucks up, it's a wrap. It's like the GZA said "It's like playing a deadly video game with one man."

The show had some serious flaws, but it was honest. That part where dude couldn't find a job moved me. 1) Because they put those fucked up statistics in there (a black man with no convictions is on the level of a white felon) 2) This kat stuck with his family. 3) I got a cousin like that and his wife gives him shit on the regular and I know they left that out of the show.

We can break the cycle, but it has to be a conscious and unconscious decision. Both the black man and black woman have to make it together.

 

[owl]

Yeah, I think we are socially engineered to be separate. But I think we are at fault for accepting it. A couple of points in history we've been on a come up and got smacked down and set back generations. So yeah, that is a form of social engineering.

The thing is, black women have always been able to find work or some way to provide. While black men haven't and that's a detriment to the black family right there, because that's not the way it's supposed to be. That's alienation of the black man from his own family. Society tells you a man that can't provide for his family is not a man. If a white man fucks up, "He's young, we'll give him a pass", if a black man fucks up, it's a wrap. It's like the GZA said "It's like playing a deadly video game with one man."

The show had some serious flaws, but it was honest. That part where dude couldn't find a job moved me. 1) Because they put those fucked up statistics in there (a black man with no convictions is on the level of a white felon) 2) This kat stuck with his family. 3) I got a cousin like that and his wife gives him shit on the regular and I know they left that out of the show.

We can break the cycle, but it has to be a conscious and unconscious decision. Both the black man and black woman have to make it together.

Hell, the show itself is a form of social engineering...

 

[sean69]

most black people do not see this as a problem though...in fact, most of what they talked about or showed on that CNN doc is NOT seen as a problem by our community at large, especially younger black people.

so then the question becomes "how do we make them see it as a problem?"...and the answer is simple: you don't.

these things are so deeply embedded in our culture, a few cameras running around the hood for a few days won't change anything and people are fooling themselves if they think it will.

And this is what i've been saying ...

Yeah, I think we are socially engineered to be separate. But I think we are at fault for accepting it. A couple of points in history we've been on a come up and got smacked down and set back generations. So yeah, that is a form of social engineering.

The thing is, black women have always been able to find work or some way to provide. While black men haven't and that's a detriment to the black family right there, because that's not the way it's supposed to be. That's alienation of the black man from his own family. Society tells you a man that can't provide for his family is not a man. If a white man fucks up, "He's young, we'll give him a pass", if a black man fucks up, it's a wrap. It's like the GZA said "It's like playing a deadly video game with one man."

The show had some serious flaws, but it was honest. That part where dude couldn't find a job moved me. 1) Because they put those fucked up statistics in there (a black man with no convictions is on the level of a white felon) 2) This kat stuck with his family. 3) I got a cousin like that and his wife gives him shit on the regular and I know they left that out of the show.

We can break the cycle, but it has to be a conscious and unconscious decision. Both the black man and black woman have to make it together.

Hammer, meet head of nail. Head of nail, meet hammer.

Hell, the show itself is a form of social engineering...

Which brings us back to the beginning. An cyclically evolving paradox.

And certain ignoramuses on this board have been thoroughly engineered.