VICTOR CoNTE SAYS MAYWEATHER MAY BE ON PEDS

Your title is some what misleading, but he has a point. I can see anyone being thrown off by the amount of weight these guys have put on and their success. As far the testing being olympic style, he is right again, but I doubt anyone fucking around would bring that much attention to themselves. The confusing part for me is if Conte is calling Pac and Floyd into question... why is the thread directed solely on one of the two guys:confused:
 
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It is possible they both are. It is possible neither are and it is possible only one of the two are. I always agured that if people think manny did why not pbf? I mean both basically started around the same weight and pbf actually moved up in weight faster than manny. Still, to me it all is rumors. Also to be honest. The more I hear about PEDS the more I understand a vast amount of athletes have used them. The only thing that interested me was when he said 'drug have been rampant for 5 decades in sports. I personally don't care. I mean everyone my age that has played or know people that play college football or track know it has been around since the 80. It is a part of the sport landscape. All athletes use performance enhancing drugs. The issue isn't that. It is if they are using something that has not been approved to be used.

Much to do about nothing. And he was also interesting to blast the olympic style testing bs that has taken center stage. Boxing is just like WWE. All smoke and mirrors. It is a shame.
 
So, according to Conte (who is loving the limelight), Mayweather and his opponents aren't doing "Olympic style testing" but are doing random, blood and urine tests. Okay.
 
So, according to Conte (who is loving the limelight), Mayweather and his opponents aren't doing "Olympic style testing" but are doing random, blood and urine tests. Okay.

Yep... grasping at straws, but hey... he is an expert and I only wonder how hard he laughs when anyone gives him this theory that athletes in any sport don't benefit from PED use.
 
Yep... grasping at straws, but hey... he is an expert and I only wonder how hard he laughs when anyone gives him this theory that athletes in any sport don't benefit from PED use.

I'm sure he laughs very hard but I still don't think they benefit boxers beyond just being able to train harder. Is training harder a benefit for boxers? Yes, but only to a certain point. In other words, baseball players that use PEDs are proven to break records. Most boxers that were caught on PEDs were getting their asses kicked or not looking extraordinary at all.

As far as the title, I mentioned Mayweather only because we've already seen tons of topics and articles about Pacquiao supposedly being on PEDs. Conte flipping the script and throwing Mayweather into the suspicion is what makes the article news and interesting.
 
I'm sure he laughs very hard but I still don't think they benefit boxers beyond just being able to train harder. Is training harder a benefit for boxers? Yes, but only to a certain point. In other words, baseball players that use PEDs are proven to break records. Most boxers that were caught on PEDs were getting their asses kicked or not looking extraordinary at all.

As far as the title, I mentioned Mayweather only because we've already seen tons of topics and articles about Pacquiao supposedly being on PEDs. Conte flipping the script and throwing Mayweather into the suspicion is what makes the article news and interesting.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/flashback-when-roy-jones-tested-positive/

Manny Pacquiao has only been suspected of using steroids – and the media has blown it so far out of proportion, some wonder if the baseless charges could actually be true. Back in 2000, Roy Jones really did test positive and admitted to using steroids, however the mainstream sports media barely touched that red-hot story, for mysterious reasons.

The Jones situation only came to light after his 2000 Indianapolis opponent Richard Hall inadvertantly revealed the fact in a 2003 interview with Braggingrightscorner.com’s Alladin Freeman. I picked up on the story, contacted Indiana State commissioner Jacob Hall, who unequivocally stated Jones did indeed test positive, but the blockbuster story never really broke big like you might have expected, compared to the Roger Clemens, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Ben Johnson, Shane Mosley and Marion Jones controversies.

Here’s the original story which was posted at BoxingInsider.com in 2003. Note the double standard in how the media has avalanched on the Pacquiao-Mayweather war of words, yet virtually ignored the fact of Jones testing positive. (Don’t believe it? Google search Roy Jones and Steroids and see what you find.)

Roy Jones Did Test Positive, Steroids

By Scoop Malinowski (Story was originally posted in 2003.)

Richard Hall’s astonishing claims – that Roy Jones, possibly the greatest fighter in ring history – tested positive for steroids after their May 2000 fight, have now been confirmed today by Jacob Hall, the Commissioner of Indiana Boxing.

Here is our exclusive interview.


Boxinginsider.com: Did Roy Jones test positive after his fight against Richard Hall?

Jacob Hall: “Both of them did. Roy Jones tested positive for steroids. He was five or six times over an acceptable level. Hall was about ten times above an acceptable level. He didn’t mention that in his interview (the now infamous interview of July 18 with Bragging Rights Corner and Doghouse Boxing).

A letter was sent to both (Jones and Hall). The Indiana Boxing Commission followed up – I talked to Jones’ people and said we were going to declare the fight a no-contest, suspend and fine him. And at that time, Jones’ attorney Fred Levin and the Indiana Attorney General’s office got involved.

Indiana has no law on drug testing as probably the majority of the states in the U.S. do not. The drug testing company sent us the results. Most states that don’t have drug testing laws, the test results go back to the sanctioning bodies. I think most people are surprised at that. What do the sanctioning bodies do when they get positive test results? Suspend? Fine? They didn’t in this case. And there’s no way you’re going to know about it.

Through his attorney, Jones admitted he had been taking an over-the-counter product called Ripped Fuel. That’s not illegal but it is an anabolic steroid according to the IBF and other other sanctioning bodies.

So he did test positive. He did take Ripped Fuel.

Whether that’s what he took or not we don’t know, but he did test positive and admitted to taking a steroid.

The IBF chose to do nothing. They wanted a second test to be done. But why take a second test when he failed the first one and admitted to taking a steroid? That’s where it ended.

No action was taken. Nobody did anything.

We couldn’t take action (because there is no drug testing law in the state of Indiana) but what we agreed to was before his next two fights, Roy Jones would submit the results to more drug tests to Indiana. One fight was in Louisiana and those results were negative. And the other was in California, and those results were negative.

What surprised me about this is that the IBF chose not to do anything. And I have documents…what I’m saying, I can back-up. So I’m not concerned with that.

Roy Jones’ people were very cooperative and very easy to work with to reach a settlement. Also, I did tell Roy Jones that there are some amateur boxing clubs here in Indiana and he did send a check in the amount of $250 for the Indianapolis PAL.”

Boxinginsider.com: How many people have called you since the Richard Hall interview?

Jacob Hall: “Brad Jacobs, now an advisor for Jones, and a reporter from some paper in France, and that was it. Brad Jacobs called to verify if the facts were true about Roy failing the test. He wasn’t involved with Roy Jones back in 2000. He just wanted to know what the facts were, like you.”

Boxinginsider.com: Wow, that’s hard to believe – that only one media outlet from France has called you about this.

Jacob Hall: “All I saw on any of the websites was that Murad Muhammad said Roy Jones tested positive for take some (nasal decongestant). But that was innaccurate. This was not a nasal decongestant.”

Boxinginsider.com: Does the state of Nevada have a law on drug testing?

Jacob Hall: “Yes. Most states do not. Nevada does have drug testing. I think most people are surprised at that…they think all boxers are tested. For some time I’ve tried to get a law passed similar to Nevada but we haven’t got that done yet. If the sanctioning bodies choose not to take action, there isn’t a lot the state commissions can do. That’s why I’m in favor of a Federal Commission like the one Senator John McCain is proposing.”
 
http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/flashback-when-roy-jones-tested-positive/

Manny Pacquiao has only been suspected of using steroids – and the media has blown it so far out of proportion, some wonder if the baseless charges could actually be true. Back in 2000, Roy Jones really did test positive and admitted to using steroids, however the mainstream sports media barely touched that red-hot story, for mysterious reasons.

The Jones situation only came to light after his 2000 Indianapolis opponent Richard Hall inadvertantly revealed the fact in a 2003 interview with Braggingrightscorner.com’s Alladin Freeman. I picked up on the story, contacted Indiana State commissioner Jacob Hall, who unequivocally stated Jones did indeed test positive, but the blockbuster story never really broke big like you might have expected, compared to the Roger Clemens, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Ben Johnson, Shane Mosley and Marion Jones controversies.

Here’s the original story which was posted at BoxingInsider.com in 2003. Note the double standard in how the media has avalanched on the Pacquiao-Mayweather war of words, yet virtually ignored the fact of Jones testing positive. (Don’t believe it? Google search Roy Jones and Steroids and see what you find.)

Roy Jones Did Test Positive, Steroids

By Scoop Malinowski (Story was originally posted in 2003.)

Richard Hall’s astonishing claims – that Roy Jones, possibly the greatest fighter in ring history – tested positive for steroids after their May 2000 fight, have now been confirmed today by Jacob Hall, the Commissioner of Indiana Boxing.

Here is our exclusive interview.


Boxinginsider.com: Did Roy Jones test positive after his fight against Richard Hall?

Jacob Hall: “Both of them did. Roy Jones tested positive for steroids. He was five or six times over an acceptable level. Hall was about ten times above an acceptable level. He didn’t mention that in his interview (the now infamous interview of July 18 with Bragging Rights Corner and Doghouse Boxing).

A letter was sent to both (Jones and Hall). The Indiana Boxing Commission followed up – I talked to Jones’ people and said we were going to declare the fight a no-contest, suspend and fine him. And at that time, Jones’ attorney Fred Levin and the Indiana Attorney General’s office got involved.

Indiana has no law on drug testing as probably the majority of the states in the U.S. do not. The drug testing company sent us the results. Most states that don’t have drug testing laws, the test results go back to the sanctioning bodies. I think most people are surprised at that. What do the sanctioning bodies do when they get positive test results? Suspend? Fine? They didn’t in this case. And there’s no way you’re going to know about it.

Through his attorney, Jones admitted he had been taking an over-the-counter product called Ripped Fuel. That’s not illegal but it is an anabolic steroid according to the IBF and other other sanctioning bodies.

So he did test positive. He did take Ripped Fuel.

Whether that’s what he took or not we don’t know, but he did test positive and admitted to taking a steroid.

The IBF chose to do nothing. They wanted a second test to be done. But why take a second test when he failed the first one and admitted to taking a steroid? That’s where it ended.

No action was taken. Nobody did anything.

We couldn’t take action (because there is no drug testing law in the state of Indiana) but what we agreed to was before his next two fights, Roy Jones would submit the results to more drug tests to Indiana. One fight was in Louisiana and those results were negative. And the other was in California, and those results were negative.

What surprised me about this is that the IBF chose not to do anything. And I have documents…what I’m saying, I can back-up. So I’m not concerned with that.

Roy Jones’ people were very cooperative and very easy to work with to reach a settlement. Also, I did tell Roy Jones that there are some amateur boxing clubs here in Indiana and he did send a check in the amount of $250 for the Indianapolis PAL.”

Boxinginsider.com: How many people have called you since the Richard Hall interview?

Jacob Hall: “Brad Jacobs, now an advisor for Jones, and a reporter from some paper in France, and that was it. Brad Jacobs called to verify if the facts were true about Roy failing the test. He wasn’t involved with Roy Jones back in 2000. He just wanted to know what the facts were, like you.”

Boxinginsider.com: Wow, that’s hard to believe – that only one media outlet from France has called you about this.

Jacob Hall: “All I saw on any of the websites was that Murad Muhammad said Roy Jones tested positive for take some (nasal decongestant). But that was innaccurate. This was not a nasal decongestant.”

Boxinginsider.com: Does the state of Nevada have a law on drug testing?

Jacob Hall: “Yes. Most states do not. Nevada does have drug testing. I think most people are surprised at that…they think all boxers are tested. For some time I’ve tried to get a law passed similar to Nevada but we haven’t got that done yet. If the sanctioning bodies choose not to take action, there isn’t a lot the state commissions can do. That’s why I’m in favor of a Federal Commission like the one Senator John McCain is proposing.”

Very predictable. I'm not even going to read the article because I've read about the whole situation in depth before. I was ready for this comeback because it proves what I say about PEDs not benefitting fighters. Why? Because Richard Hall had 5 to 10 times more of the same steroid in his system in that same fight and he looked just as unspectacular as he always does. Jones looked spectacular even back when he was a kid and in the olympics. If taking PEDs could make you fight like Roy Jones then you would probably see a lot more Roy Joneses.
 
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I hate these accusations...proof or STFU Conte, Pascal & Mayweather(s)...

Floyd keeps himself in fight shape year round active or not...no PED's with him....

"Hard Work...Dedication!"
 
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I hate these accusations...proof or STFU Conte, Pascal & Mayweather(s)...

Floyd keeps himself in fight shape year round active or not...no PED's with him....

"Hard Work...Dedication!"

Lol but the funny thing about it is that you never know. Thats why i just dont care either way. Plus I think they all are on something.
 
Lol but the funny thing about it is that you never know. Thats why i just dont care either way. Plus I think they all are on something.

I don't think they all on something not everyone cheats....next I need proof before I throw that out...no proof then they should STFU with these silly accusations...

if you have doubt & want your opponent to be tested in a particular way I can agree with that,...

lastly Floyd is always in shape....he doesn't need training camps to get fit he walks around in fight shape...other fighters like the Klits also walk around in fight shape....

they don't spend their inactivity eating junk food away from the gym for weeks at a time....which is also why I believe Floyd can fight for another 2 years & still be dominant....
 
I don't think they all on something not everyone cheats....next I need proof before I throw that out...no proof then they should STFU with these silly accusations...

if you have doubt & want your opponent to be tested in a particular way I can agree with that,...

lastly Floyd is always in shape....he doesn't need training camps to get fit he walks around in fight shape...other fighters like the Klits also walk around in fight shape....

they don't spend their inactivity eating junk food away from the gym for weeks at a time....which is also why I believe Floyd can fight for another 2 years & still be dominant....
you obviously have not listened to my opinion on this issue. All athletes use PEDs. The question is whether those PEDs are illegal or not. That I don't know. And I don't think most atheletes use illegal ones. But legal PEDS. Hell yeah they do.
 
you obviously have not listened to my opinion on this issue. All athletes use PEDs. The question is whether those PEDs are illegal or not. That I don't know. And I don't think most atheletes use illegal ones. But legal PEDS. Hell yeah they do.

whats legal PED's? supplements are not PED's bruh...& not every athlete uses supplements...roids gives you a unfair advantage also PED's that help you cut weight quickly unfair advantage...

whats a legal PED?

if its illegal the commission would suspend & fine the fighter...thats all I care about illegal PED's...
 
whats legal PED's? supplements are not PED's bruh...& not every athlete uses supplements...roids gives you a unfair advantage also PED's that help you cut weight quickly unfair advantage...

whats a legal PED?

if its illegal the commission would suspend & fine the fighter...thats all I care about illegal PED's...

what is a legal performance enhancing drug? How about Cortisone steroid shots, b12 shots, adderall, Beta2 stuff(asthma), even testosterone. With the last you just usually have to ensure you levels are not to high or get a doctor's note saying you need it for medical reasons. There are more though. It is common knowledge that certain drugs or supplements are allowed and have effects that can help you. As long as they are deemed legal the athletes use them. Hell some people think lasik is cheating, but tons of atheletes use that too.
 
what is a legal performance enhancing drug? How about Cortisone steroid shots, b12 shots, adderall, Beta2 stuff(asthma), even testosterone. With the last you just usually have to ensure you levels are not to high or get a doctor's note saying you need it for medical reasons. There are more though. It is common knowledge that certain drugs or supplements are allowed and have effects that can help you. As long as they are deemed legal the athletes use them. Hell some people think lasik is cheating, but tons of atheletes use that too.

those are not LEGAL PED's according to the commission you test & fail you can lose more than a check maybe your license if that comes up often....


next I don't care about these "legal" PED's as you say fam...because they are not legal if it comes up before a fight expect to get some type of punishment...


I doubt even for medical reasons they will allow you to fight with Roids or any such PED in your system....

& even if athletes are using.....its speculation...where is the proof by Conte or Mayweather(s)?

all this speculation doesn't mean shit at the end of the day...

Proof or STFU
 

those are not LEGAL PED's according to the commission you test & fail you can lose more than a check maybe your license if that comes up often....


next I don't care about these "legal" PED's as you say fam...because they are not legal if it comes up before a fight expect to get some type of punishment...


I doubt even for medical reasons they will allow you to fight with Roids or any such PED in your system....

& even if athletes are using.....its speculation...where is the proof by Conte or Mayweather(s)?

all this speculation doesn't mean shit at the end of the day...

Proof or STFU

well I am kind of tired of arguing. drugs that enhance the performance of athletes are used everyday. That is my point. If you want to disagree with me fine. But you hear about them being used all the time. Shit they opening talk about Romo getting shot to help him deal with the pain so he can play. They were not talking about injecting him with cotton candy. You say you don't care about the legal ones. I don't either. And I don't care about the illegal ones either.

Being able to fight with roids in your system is illegal now. But roids are just one drug that can be used to gain advantages in the ring. Appetite suppressant, diuretics (coffee), and as I said those focusing drugs like aderall or ridlin. As long as it is ok to use in the sport and have physican's note you are good. Roids, hell no. But there are a lot of PEDS that are totally acceptable. That is just how sports are these days.

Players from Teams Across the Nation Choose LASIK
One player who has undergone this procedure is Denard Span, center fielder for the Minnesota Twins. In fact, he credits LASIK with getting him out of the minor leagues, where he was stuck for several years!

As a left-handed hitter, good vision in his right eye was essential for Span's batting, but his was only 20/40, meaning that an object 20 feet away would look as blurry to him as an object 40 feet away would look to the average person. Oftentimes, Span wasn't even sure what pitches he was swinging at. After the surgery, he said, "At least now when I walk back to the dugout, I know what pitch I was fooled on. It's helped me in the field, too. It's definitely made a world of difference."

Before undergoing LASIK, Mark Hendrickson of the Florida Marlins had vision so bad that he couldn't see his catcher's signals. He was legally blind in one eye, and had 20/50 vision in the other! After surgery, his vision was 20/15, which he believes doubled his chance to stay in the major leagues.



Other players who have undergone the procedure are Mark Redman of the Colorado Rockies, Greg Maddux of the San Diego Padres, Jarrod Washburn of the Seattle Mariners, Troy Glaus of the St. Louis Cardinals, and Paul Byrd of the Cleveland Indians.

Could LASIK Give an Unfair Edge?
The popularity of LASIK amongst players has not gone unnoticed by some critics, who liken the procedure to steroids, as a form of cheating. How could vision correction be considered cheating? Well, for some patients, the LASIK procedure results in vision that is even better than normal, such as 20/10, where the patient can see an object as clearly at 20 feet as a normal person would see it at 10. For this reason, sometimes players with near-normal vision consider the surgery, however many doctors would advise against going for this sort of "enhancement." Like any surgery, LASIK has risks and potential complications including dry eye, infection, and vision problems.

If you are an athlete who is considering vision correction to improve your game, please visit your eye doctor for additional information, and to discuss the potential risks as well as the benefits.


Surgery to help increase eye sight, drugs that block pain, drugs that help you shed weight, supplements that help you maintain weight. Team doctors put in work to ensure they give athletes the edge the need without breaking rules set in place. Trust me most guys are taking advantage of science to keep the checks coming and to compete at the highest level. They ain't doing it with just hard work and a cook.

So in closing. I do believe PBF and Manny are using PEDs. I just don't think they are using illegal peds.
 
well I am kind of tired of arguing. drugs that enhance the performance of athletes are used everyday. That is my point. If you want to disagree with me fine. But you hear about them being used all the time. Shit they opening talk about Romo getting shot to help him deal with the pain so he can play. They were not talking about injecting him with cotton candy. You say you don't care about the legal ones. I don't either. And I don't care about the illegal ones either.

Being able to fight with roids in your system is illegal now. But roids are just one drug that can be used to gain advantages in the ring. Appetite suppressant, diuretics (coffee), and as I said those focusing drugs like aderall or ridlin. As long as it is ok to use in the sport and have physican's note you are good. Roids, hell no. But there are a lot of PEDS that are totally acceptable. That is just how sports are these days.

Players from Teams Across the Nation Choose LASIK
One player who has undergone this procedure is Denard Span, center fielder for the Minnesota Twins. In fact, he credits LASIK with getting him out of the minor leagues, where he was stuck for several years!

As a left-handed hitter, good vision in his right eye was essential for Span's batting, but his was only 20/40, meaning that an object 20 feet away would look as blurry to him as an object 40 feet away would look to the average person. Oftentimes, Span wasn't even sure what pitches he was swinging at. After the surgery, he said, "At least now when I walk back to the dugout, I know what pitch I was fooled on. It's helped me in the field, too. It's definitely made a world of difference."

Before undergoing LASIK, Mark Hendrickson of the Florida Marlins had vision so bad that he couldn't see his catcher's signals. He was legally blind in one eye, and had 20/50 vision in the other! After surgery, his vision was 20/15, which he believes doubled his chance to stay in the major leagues.



Other players who have undergone the procedure are Mark Redman of the Colorado Rockies, Greg Maddux of the San Diego Padres, Jarrod Washburn of the Seattle Mariners, Troy Glaus of the St. Louis Cardinals, and Paul Byrd of the Cleveland Indians.

Could LASIK Give an Unfair Edge?
The popularity of LASIK amongst players has not gone unnoticed by some critics, who liken the procedure to steroids, as a form of cheating. How could vision correction be considered cheating? Well, for some patients, the LASIK procedure results in vision that is even better than normal, such as 20/10, where the patient can see an object as clearly at 20 feet as a normal person would see it at 10. For this reason, sometimes players with near-normal vision consider the surgery, however many doctors would advise against going for this sort of "enhancement." Like any surgery, LASIK has risks and potential complications including dry eye, infection, and vision problems.

If you are an athlete who is considering vision correction to improve your game, please visit your eye doctor for additional information, and to discuss the potential risks as well as the benefits.


Surgery to help increase eye sight, drugs that block pain, drugs that help you shed weight, supplements that help you maintain weight. Team doctors put in work to ensure they give athletes the edge the need without breaking rules set in place. Trust me most guys are taking advantage of science to keep the checks coming and to compete at the highest level. They ain't doing it with just hard work and a cook.

So in closing. I do believe PBF and Manny are using PEDs. I just don't think they are using illegal peds.

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well I am kind of tired of arguing. drugs that enhance the performance of athletes are used everyday. That is my point. If you want to disagree with me fine. But you hear about them being used all the time. Shit they opening talk about Romo getting shot to help him deal with the pain so he can play. They were not talking about injecting him with cotton candy. You say you don't care about the legal ones. I don't either. And I don't care about the illegal ones either.

Being able to fight with roids in your system is illegal now. But roids are just one drug that can be used to gain advantages in the ring. Appetite suppressant, diuretics (coffee), and as I said those focusing drugs like aderall or ridlin. As long as it is ok to use in the sport and have physican's note you are good. Roids, hell no. But there are a lot of PEDS that are totally acceptable. That is just how sports are these days.

Players from Teams Across the Nation Choose LASIK
One player who has undergone this procedure is Denard Span, center fielder for the Minnesota Twins. In fact, he credits LASIK with getting him out of the minor leagues, where he was stuck for several years!

As a left-handed hitter, good vision in his right eye was essential for Span's batting, but his was only 20/40, meaning that an object 20 feet away would look as blurry to him as an object 40 feet away would look to the average person. Oftentimes, Span wasn't even sure what pitches he was swinging at. After the surgery, he said, "At least now when I walk back to the dugout, I know what pitch I was fooled on. It's helped me in the field, too. It's definitely made a world of difference."

Before undergoing LASIK, Mark Hendrickson of the Florida Marlins had vision so bad that he couldn't see his catcher's signals. He was legally blind in one eye, and had 20/50 vision in the other! After surgery, his vision was 20/15, which he believes doubled his chance to stay in the major leagues.



Other players who have undergone the procedure are Mark Redman of the Colorado Rockies, Greg Maddux of the San Diego Padres, Jarrod Washburn of the Seattle Mariners, Troy Glaus of the St. Louis Cardinals, and Paul Byrd of the Cleveland Indians.

Could LASIK Give an Unfair Edge?
The popularity of LASIK amongst players has not gone unnoticed by some critics, who liken the procedure to steroids, as a form of cheating. How could vision correction be considered cheating? Well, for some patients, the LASIK procedure results in vision that is even better than normal, such as 20/10, where the patient can see an object as clearly at 20 feet as a normal person would see it at 10. For this reason, sometimes players with near-normal vision consider the surgery, however many doctors would advise against going for this sort of "enhancement." Like any surgery, LASIK has risks and potential complications including dry eye, infection, and vision problems.

If you are an athlete who is considering vision correction to improve your game, please visit your eye doctor for additional information, and to discuss the potential risks as well as the benefits.


Surgery to help increase eye sight, drugs that block pain, drugs that help you shed weight, supplements that help you maintain weight. Team doctors put in work to ensure they give athletes the edge the need without breaking rules set in place. Trust me most guys are taking advantage of science to keep the checks coming and to compete at the highest level. They ain't doing it with just hard work and a cook.

So in closing. I do believe PBF and Manny are using PEDs. I just don't think they are using illegal peds.

:lol::lol::lol: This dude is a riot. Spent 2-3 years saying it was wrong to speculate about Manny's PED use without proof and then dude speculates about everyone without proof... then wants to throw everything under the scope of PED's. All it took was someone to call Floyd into questioning and he flipped his whole pov. Just he can ride with the idea that Floyd is dirty. The hate is strong in this dude...:lol:
 
Lol but the funny thing about it is that you never know. Thats why i just dont care either way. Plus I think they all are on something.
White people are on a war path against Floyd, because the person who is closest to them
refuses to do drug tests. Victor Conte knows no more about how Floyd is tested than I and you do about Floyd...All this bullshit is about changing the subject. Let Manny Pacquiao take
the fucking drug test and the motherfucker will be KOd in 4 rounds.
 
White people are on a war path against Floyd, because the person who is closest to them
refuses to do drug tests. Victor Conte knows no more about how Floyd is tested than I and you do about Floyd...All this bullshit is about changing the subject. Let Manny Pacquiao take
the fucking drug test and the motherfucker will be KOd in 4 rounds.

illegal performance enhancing drugs are a sports problem. Not a white people problem with pbf. And Manny does have to fight PBF to make money. He is going to make that in court. And most like if they fight it will be PBF winning on points unless Manny touches him. Lol, white people on the war path on PBF. That's funny. I think Obama is more a target for stupid white people than PBF.
 
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