US Didnt Accept 100's of Millions in Katrina Aid

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By John Solomon and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, April 29, 2007; Page A01

As the winds and water of Hurricane Katrina were receding, presidential confidante Karen Hughes sent a cable from her State Department office to U.S. ambassadors worldwide.

Titled "Echo-Chamber Message" -- a public relations term for talking points designed to be repeated again and again -- the Sept. 7, 2005, directive was unmistakable: Assure the scores of countries that had pledged or donated aid at the height of the disaster that their largesse had provided Americans "practical help and moral support" and "highlight the concrete benefits hurricane victims are receiving."

Many of the U.S. diplomats who received the message, however, were beginning to witness a more embarrassing reality. They knew the U.S. government was turning down many allies' offers of manpower, supplies and expertise worth untold millions of dollars. Eventually the United States also would fail to collect most of the unprecedented outpouring of international cash assistance for Katrina's victims.

Allies offered $854 million in cash and in oil that was to be sold for cash. But only $40 million has been used so far for disaster victims or reconstruction, according to U.S. officials and contractors. Most of the aid went uncollected, including $400 million worth of oil. Some offers were withdrawn or redirected to private groups such as the Red Cross. The rest has been delayed by red tape and bureaucratic limits on how it can be spent.

In addition, valuable supplies and services -- such as cellphone systems, medicine and cruise ships -- were delayed or declined because the government could not handle them. In some cases, supplies were wasted.

The struggle to apply foreign aid in the aftermath of the hurricane, which has cost U.S. taxpayers more than $125 billion so far, is another reminder of the federal government's difficulty leading the recovery. Reports of government waste and delays or denials of assistance have surfaced repeatedly since hurricanes Katrina and Rita struck in 2005.

Administration officials acknowledged in February 2006 that they were ill prepared to coordinate and distribute foreign aid and that only about half the $126 million received had been put to use. Now, 20 months after Katrina, newly released documents and interviews make clear the magnitude of the troubles.

More than 10,000 pages of cables, telegraphs and e-mails from U.S. diplomats around the globe -- released piecemeal since last fall under the Freedom of Information Act -- provide a fuller account of problems that, at times, mystified generous allies and left U.S. representatives at a loss for an explanation. The documents were obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a public interest group, which provided them to The Washington Post.

In one exchange, State Department officials anguished over whether to tell Italy that its shipments of medicine, gauze and other medical supplies spoiled in the elements for weeks after Katrina's landfall on Aug. 29, 2005, and were destroyed. "Tell them we blew it," one disgusted official wrote. But she hedged: "The flip side is just to dispose of it and not come clean. I could be persuaded."

In another instance, the Department of Homeland Security accepted an offer from Greece on Sept. 3, 2005, to dispatch two cruise ships that could be used free as hotels or hospitals for displaced residents. The deal was rescinded Sept. 15 after it became clear a ship would not arrive before Oct. 10. The U.S. eventually paid $249 million to use Carnival Cruise Lines vessels.

And while television sets worldwide showed images of New Orleans residents begging to be rescued from rooftops as floodwaters rose, U.S. officials turned down countless offers of allied troops and search-and-rescue teams. The most common responses: "sent letter of thanks" and "will keep offer on hand," the new documents show.

Overall, the United States declined 54 of 77 recorded aid offers from three of its staunchest allies: Canada, Britain and Israel, according to a 40-page State Department table of the offers that had been received as of January 2006.

"There is a lack of accountability in where the money comes in and where it goes," said Melanie Sloan, executive director of the public interest group, which called for an investigation into the fate of foreign aid offers. She added: "It's clear that they're trying to hide their ineptitude, incompetence and malfeasance."

In a statement, State Department spokesman Tom Casey said that the U.S. government sincerely appreciated support from around the world and that Katrina had proved to be "a unique event in many ways."

"As we continue our planning for the future, we will draw on the lessons learned from this experience to ensure that we make the best use of any possible foreign assistance that might be offered," Casey said.

Representatives of foreign countries declined to criticize the U.S. response to their aid offers, though some redirected their gifts.

Of $454 million in cash that was pledged by more than 150 countries and foreign organizations, only $126 million from 40 donors was actually received. The biggest gifts were from the United Arab Emirates, $100 million; China and Bahrain, $5 million each; South Korea, $3.8 million; and Taiwan, $2 million.

Bader Bin Saeed, spokesman for the Emirates Embassy in Washington, said that in future disasters, "the UAE would not hesitate to help other countries, whether the U.S. or any other state, in humanitarian efforts."

Kuwait, which made the largest offer, pledged $100 million in cash and $400 million in oil. But the Kuwaitis eventually gave their money to two private groups: $25 million to the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund, a project of the former presidents, and another $25 million to the American Red Cross in February 2006. They still plan to contribute another $50 million, said the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States, Salem Abdullah al-Jaber al-Sabah.

"It was based on my government's assessment of the fastest way to get money to the people that needed it," he said. "The Red Cross was on the ground and action-oriented."

In the White House's February 2006 Katrina report, U.S. officials said Kuwait's $400 million oil donation was to be sold for cash. Sabah said it was an in-kind pledge made when it appeared that U.S. refining capacity was devastated and that the American public would need fuel.

"We have to see what we have to do with that. When you pledge something in-kind, your intention is to give it in-kind. I do not think now the American people are in need of $400 million of fuel and fuel products," he said.

Of the $126 million in cash that has been received, most has not yet been used. More than $60 million was set aside in March 2006 to rebuild schools, colleges and universities, but so far, only $10.4 million has been taken by schools.

Half the $60 million was awarded last fall to 14 Louisiana and Mississippi colleges, but five have not started to claim the money. Only Dillard University in Louisiana and Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College have tapped their full awards, worth $6 million, U.S. Education Department officials said Friday.

Another $30 million was sent to Orleans, St. Bernard and Plaquemines parishes in Louisiana and to the state-run Recovery School District in New Orleans to build libraries, laboratories and other facilities for 130 public schools.

But none of that money has been used yet, said Meg Casper, spokeswoman for the Louisiana Department of Education. Allocations were just approved by the state board last week, she said, "so the money should start to flow."

The first concrete program officials announced in October 2005 -- a $66 million contract to a consortium of 10 faith-based and charity groups to provide social services to displaced families -- so far has assisted less than half the 100,000 victims it promised to help, the project director said.

The group, led by the United Methodist Committee on Relief, has spent $30 million of the money it was given to aid about 45,000 evacuees. Senate investigators are questioning some terms in the contract proposal, including a provision to pay consultants for 450 days to train volunteers for the work the committee was paid to do.

Jim Cox, the program director, said that the project is "right on track" but that its strategy of relying on volunteers foundered because of burnout and high turnover. He acknowledged that more people need help than are receiving it and said the program will be extended to March to use available funds.

"The resources aren't there, but these resources certainly are coming," Cox said.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/28/AR2007042801113_2.html?hpid=topnews
 
That's impossible to read that. Aid was rejected?? How could this be? We could solicit aid from nations to go into war, complain they are against us when they don't help, but when they do help with CASH MONEY to rebuild part of the gulf coast, we can't accept it?

Here is my question on this as well, why did it take this damn long to make this information public?

-VG
 
VegasGuy said:
Here is my question on this as well, why did it take this damn long to make this information public?

-VG
The Government still hasn't made it public. It took a private organization to expose the government:
Washington Post said:
More than 10,000 pages of cables, telegraphs and e-mails from U.S. diplomats around the globe -- released piecemeal since last fall under the Freedom of Information Act -- provide a fuller account of problems that, at times, mystified generous allies and left U.S. representatives at a loss for an explanation. The documents were obtained by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a public interest group, which provided them to The Washington Post.

QueEx
 
Not surprised at all. This gov't is the ultimate egomaniac

Taking help would be a sign of weakness in it's eyes
and the "Policemen of the World" can't be seen taking handouts
 
i just MS. Rice on abc talking about they don't know how to handle all the aid, that they are not use to accepting foreign aid :rolleyes: 845 mil and only 40 mil gets used where is the rest :rolleyes: :smh: :smh:
 
thetruth said:
i just MS. Rice on abc talking about they don't know how to handle all the aid, that they are not use to accepting foreign aid :rolleyes: 845 mil and only 40 mil gets used where is the rest :rolleyes: :smh: :smh:

BULLSHIT! Who ever heard of too much of a donation?? Nobody wanted to see those people suffer longer than need be and she's trying to tell me Joe Blow can't get a check to help rebuild his life because we (the government agnencies) couldn't figure out how to accept it? Were there strings attached to this assistance? Because if there were strings, I can understand but if they were straight up gifts, oh hell no.

-VG
 
RunawaySlave said:
Not surprised at all. This gov't is the ultimate egomaniac

Taking help would be a sign of weakness in it's eyes
and the "Policemen of the World" can't be seen taking handouts
I said the same thing when I read it, I'm not surprised at all.

Nothing about this administration surprises me any more, it just sickens me. And sad part is when I was in NO in Feb/March, it was just shocking to see so much is still not done, but we have the nerve to turn down money, and I have a friend that lives in what we call a shotgun house, and paying $1200 a month. That is a ripoff.
 
cocobeauty36 said:
I said the same thing when I read it, I'm not surprised at all.

Nothing about this administration surprises me any more, it just sickens me. And sad part is when I was in NO in Feb/March, it was just shocking to see so much is still not done, but we have the nerve to turn down money, and I have a friend that lives in what we call a shotgun house, and paying $1200 a month. That is a ripoff.
Moreso what your and RunawaySlave's views reflects is the sad state that the American people has fallen into. There should be outrage from everyone within this country behind the handling of Katrina. We used to care, we used to protest, now we're "not surprised at all."

This is why this administration does whatever it feels like. The people have lost their will to fight. Meanwhile thousands remain displaced with the only certainty in life being the uncertainty of tomorrow. A major US city remains in ruin because our government refused to help those in need and then refused aid to help those same people.
 
Reminds me of the documentary I'd seen where the black folks down new Orleans talked about they heard bombs blow the levees to flood them out and rebuild the upper class neighborhood. The film then went on to go back in the 60's when the government blew up the levees to flood out the black section to make room for more upper class developements. Does any body know what I'm talking about? Anybody have it?
 
Mo-Better said:
Moreso what your and RunawaySlave's views reflects is the sad state that the American people has fallen into. There should be outrage from everyone within this country behind the handling of Katrina. We used to care, we used to protest, now we're "not surprised at all."

This is why this administration does whatever it feels like. The people have lost their will to fight. Meanwhile thousands remain displaced with the only certainty in life being the uncertainty of tomorrow. A major US city remains in ruin because our government refused to help those in need and then refused aid to help those same people.


The people may have lost their will to fight, but that does not
include me personally. Nor does it include the organizations I
belong to.

This type of blatant neglect does not start with an action of this
size. It starts on a much lower level. With simple civic actions that
people take for granted every day of the week. Let the small stuff
slide and the actions will continue to grow bigger and bigger until
you have something like this.

We've been fighting this kind of neglect of black people all along.
Pointing out the warning signs and everything. People CHOSE to
ignore shit, then become SURPRISED when shit like this occurs
 
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Mo-Better said:
Moreso what your and RunawaySlave's views reflects is the sad state that the American people has fallen into. There should be outrage from everyone within this country behind the handling of Katrina. We used to care, we used to protest, now we're "not surprised at all."

This is why this administration does whatever it feels like. The people have lost their will to fight. Meanwhile thousands remain displaced with the only certainty in life being the uncertainty of tomorrow. A major US city remains in ruin because our government refused to help those in need and then refused aid to help those same people.
I don't think we have lost the will to fight at all, we can't afford to, let's be realistic. If we, and we includes americans, and mainly our race, lose the will in any crisis, we are screwed.

I haven't nor will I ever let this administration cause to me to lose my fight for anything, but I am not surprised by anything that OUR government does, and none of it is for the betterment of my people.

 
RunawaySlave said:
The people may have lost their will to fight, but that does not
include me personally. Nor does it include the organizations I
belong to.

This type of blatant neglect does not start with an action of this
size. It starts on a much lower level. With simple civic actions that
people take for granted every day of the week. Let the small stuff
slide and the actions will continue to grow bigger and bigger until
you have something like this.

We've been fighting this kind of neglect of black people all along.
Pointing out the warning signs and everything. People CHOSE to
ignore shit, then become SURPRISED when shit like this occurs

Don't take that personally. The comment "I'm not surprised" has become all to common today. It does however reflect the apathetic state of the people. Nothing matters, why bother to vote etc. Outrage should be the response.The intent of the Bush administration is now very clear. They wanted those people to die. They didn't vote for him so they were of no use to them. They were poor.

FEMA was already low on funding because of other events that had taken place across the country both that year and the previous year. Then to refuse aid from these other countries willing to help is a total outrage.

Shoot me a PM on those organizations. Thanks
 
cocobeauty36 said:
I don't think we have lost the will to fight at all, we can't afford to, let's be realistic. If we, and we includes americans, and mainly our race, lose the will in any crisis, we are screwed.

I haven't nor will I ever let this administration cause to me to lose my fight for anything, but I am not surprised by anything that OUR government does, and none of it is for the betterment of my people.

I'm glad to hear that. As in my response to RS the American people and especially Black Americans seem to have lost focus on important matters. They find time to complain but never take the time to become active and do something. These type matters need to be addressed. The only way that can happen is for the people to speak out.

It's good to know there is still some strong sisters and brothers with some fight in them. It's actually refreshing. Thanks
 
Mo-Better said:
Don't take that personally. The comment "I'm not surprised" has become all to common today. It does however reflect the apathetic state of the people. Nothing matters, why bother to vote etc. Outrage should be the response.The intent of the Bush administration is now very clear. They wanted those people to die. They didn't vote for him so they were of no use to them. They were poor.

FEMA was already low on funding because of other events that had taken place across the country both that year and the previous year. Then to refuse aid from these other countries willing to help is a total outrage.

Shoot me a PM on those organizations. Thanks
FEMA was low on funding.....may have been true, but still sounds like another excuse...don't surprise me. There was money pouring in just from our country alone to help the victims of Katrina, so even if we didn't use all the money that the other countries offered, it would have just been there for the next catastrophe.
 
Mo-Better said:
I'm glad to hear that. As in my response to RS the American people and especially Black Americans seem to have lost focus on important matters. They find time to complain but never take the time to become active and do something. These type matters need to be addressed. The only way that can happen is for the people to speak out.

It's good to know there is still some strong sisters and brothers with some fight in them. It's actually refreshing. Thanks
Anytime. I have kids that still have to live in this country, so I have to always be concerned, and I try to point things out to them to make sure they are aware as well.
 
RunawaySlave said:
Not surprised at all. This gov't is the ultimate egomaniac

Taking help would be a sign of weakness in it's eyes
and the "Policemen of the World" can't be seen taking handouts
I Co-Sign this to the fullest and to make it even worse this is probably what they said "It's just some poor black folks. It doesn't matter as long as we don't look as if we are losing power"

I'm outraged :angry:
 
FEMA is a gov't agency that depends on money through appropriations from the Feds. It is only ever "low" on money because of a lack of care from the people in charge of federal funding. FEMA if never truly "low" on money.
 
cocobeauty36 said:
I don't think we have lost the will to fight at all, we can't afford to, let's be realistic. If we, and we includes americans, and mainly our race, lose the will in any crisis, we are screwed.

I haven't nor will I ever let this administration cause to me to lose my fight for anything, but I am not surprised by anything that OUR government does, and none of it is for the betterment of my people.



No, you might not have lost your will, but alot have.
 
nphilly1 said:
Reminds me of the documentary I'd seen where the black folks down new Orleans talked about they heard bombs blow the levees to flood them out and rebuild the upper class neighborhood. The film then went on to go back in the 60's when the government blew up the levees to flood out the black section to make room for more upper class developements. Does any body know what I'm talking about? Anybody have it?

Black Ops in New Orleans?
http://198.65.131.81/board/showthread.php?t=61024&page=1&highlight=orleans


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