US Consumer Prices Dip 0.1% in June 2010, Annual Inflation at 1.1%

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What inflation?



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Is deflation a 'good' thing?


It is when the tin foil hats talk the price of gold up.

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So why the deflation?

when gauging inflation, the monetary base is the engine and your CPI numbers are the results (thats why CNBC and Keynesians consistently get this wrong). Inflation is all around, it'll work it's way through the system, no doubt

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Don't you buy gold when the dollar is worth less?

Silver is a good alternative, I'm priced out of the gold market but my family members are taking advantage.
 
Inflation is all around, it'll work it's way through the system, no doubt

...and trickle down economics will work.

Inflation is when not enough goods and services chase to many customers. This is one statement Reagan got right. People aren't working, good paying jobs have left the US which means they aren't buying thing and manufacturing capacity and productive is at an all time high. Thus the cost of things are low. Inflation will return when the economy is overheating.

Econ 101.
 
...and trickle down economics will work.

Inflation is when not enough goods and services chase to many customers. This is one statement Reagan got right. People aren't working, good paying jobs have left the US which means they aren't buying thing and manufacturing capacity and productive is at an all time high. Thus the cost of things are low. Inflation will return when the economy is overheating.

Econ 101.

ok, then you & Reagan is wrong :D

Inflation is the growth in money supply without the equal expansion in production. Didn't you see that chart from the St. Louis Fed?

Rising prices are merely the result. Stop buying into that Keynesian BS
 
...and trickle down economics will work.

Inflation is when not enough goods and services chase to many customers. This is one statement Reagan got right. People aren't working, good paying jobs have left the US which means they aren't buying thing and manufacturing capacity and productive is at an all time high. Thus the cost of things are low. Inflation will return when the economy is overheating.

Econ 101.

Econ 101 huh? Inflation, as I've indicated before, is the increase in the monetary base. The rising prices are merely a result, duh!

Copper, record highs
Cotton, record highs
Gold, Record highs
Silver, record highs
Sugar, record highs
We aint gon' talk about gas!

check it
Copper and many other commodities have risen since September, coinciding with a wider rally on Wall Street and world equities, after the Federal Reserve came up with a $600 billion bond buying program to stimulate US growth.
 
Capitalist speculators causing prices to rise for no good reason, just like in 2007 - 2008. There is no shortage of these commodities.
Just like derivatives, the capitalist leeches never learn their lessons.

...but if you want to see prices crash, your tea party buddies will cause it.

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Capitalist speculators causing prices to rise for no good reason, just like in 2007 - 2008. There is no shortage of these commodities.
Just like derivatives, the capitalist leeches never learn their lessons.

Have you learned anything from my teachings, seriously? The money the "speculators" use to affect commodities, come from the 0% interest rates offered by the FED. They use "cheap" money to influence markets! Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan are posting record profits because of this

...but if you want to see prices crash, your tea party buddies will cause it.

Again, the problem is not that prices may crash, the problem is that they never should've been bid up in the first place. The market is telling us prices should fall but Bernanke, Obama & Bush are doing whatever they can to prop the market up. Ultimately, the market will win.

Now who is this? After listening to this cat, he just told me that we need to raise the debt ceiling, in order to get out of the hole created from the 2008 credit debacle :smh: this cat is delusional

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Have you learned anything from my teachings, seriously? The money the "speculators" use to affect commodities, come from the 0% interest rates offered by the FED. They use "cheap" money to influence markets! Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan are posting record profits because of this


Again, the problem is not that prices may crash, the problem is that they never should've been bid up in the first place. The market is telling us prices should fall but Bernanke, Obama & Bush are doing whatever they can to prop the market up. Ultimately, the market will win.

For the most part, you'll get no argument from me here.

Now who is this? After listening to this cat, he just told me that we need to raise the debt ceiling, in order to get out of the hole created from the 2008 credit debacle :smh: this cat is delusional

Unfortunately defaulting on the nation's interest payments is not like walking away from a mortgage or filing personal bankruptcy. It's a Faustian Choice that must be solved long term, not by knee jerk political posturing.
 
Unfortunately defaulting on the nation's interest payments is not like walking away from a mortgage or filing personal bankruptcy. It's a Faustian Choice that must be solved long term, not by knee jerk political posturing.

Look at it like this: the Default is happening, the govt could legitimately default on its debts by simply declaring bankruptcy or they can illegitimately pay its debts with printed up monopoly money with the consequences taking its toll on American citizens (higher prices for commodities like food & energy). Either way the result is the same, fiscal discipline must be restored!

Bring our troops home now!
 
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With Gas Prices at an All-Time High for February, Bernanke Swears Inflation is Very Low

"Inflation made here in the U.S. is very, very low," the Federal Reserve chairman told Congress on Wednesday.

"Over the 12 months ending in December, prices for all the goods and services consumed by households increased by only 1.2%," he said.

Around the globe, people are rioting in the streets because of skyrocketing food prices. Health-care costs in the U.S. rise annually by double digits. College, insurance, utilities, the fees bailed-out banks charge their customers, various taxes from nearly bankrupt states and municipalities, basic commodities from pork bellies to gold, and, oh, gasoline -- all of this keeps going up.

But don't worry, Mr. Bernanke (and Thoughtone) swears inflation -- at least as the U.S. government measures it -- will remain low because wages are stagnant. See, there's no need to worry about rising prices, because you're not getting a raise.
 
Some people wouldn't believe the water falling on their head is rain,

unless some Washington bureaucrat told them it was.

I just don't understand why, after the centuries of garbage coming out of the Federal government, that any self-respecting black person would believe anything they say.

We all know there is no inflation. The government said so.
 
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A little is all right. That’s the message Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke has been giving out recently when asked about the evidence of inflation in the U.S. recovery.

Sometimes Bernanke doesn’t even go that far. He simply says he doesn’t see inflation. The Fed chairman recently described the prospects for price increases across the board as “subdued.”

“Sudden” is more like it. The thing about inflation is that it comes out of nowhere and hits you. Monetary policy is like sailing. You’re gliding along, passing the peninsula, and you come about. Nothing. Then the wind fills the sail so fast it knocks you into the sea. Right now, the U.S. is a sailboat that has just made open water, and has already come about. That wind is coming. The sailor just doesn’t know it.

“Sudden” has happened to us before. In World War I, an early version of what we would call the CPI-U, the consumer price index for urban areas, went from 1 percent for 1915 to 7 percent in 1916 to 17 percent in 1917. To returning vets, that felt awful sudden.

How did it happen? The Treasury spent like crazy on the war, creating money to pay for it, then pretended that its spending was offset by complex Liberty Bond sales and admonishments to citizens that they save more.

Country in Denial In other words, the Woodrow Wilson administration was in denial, inflating in all but name. Commenting on one complex plan to make more money available, Representative L.T. McFadden, a Pennsylvania Republican, said, “I would suggest that if the administration believes that inflation of this character is necessary to finance the war the more direct way would be to issue the notes direct.”

Or, to return to sailing terms, the Treasury and Fed had tilted the U.S. monetary craft so far one way that it needed to lean back the other way before it could right. That leaning was the true tight money policy of subsequent years, including deflation of 10 percent and wrenching unemployment.

History has other examples. In 1945, all seemed well: Inflation was 2 percent, at least officially. Within two years that level hit 14 percent.

All appeared calm in 1972, too, before inflation jumped to 11 percent by 1974, and stayed high for the rest of the decade, diminishing the quality of life for whole cohorts. They paid the higher interest rates needed to reduce the inflation, and got a house with one less bedroom. Or no pool.

The thing about inflation is that it accelerates. The acceleration hit storybook levels in the most sudden case of all, that of Germany in 1922. Many financial analysts thought the Weimar authorities weren’t producing enough money.

“Tight Money in German Market: Causes of the Abnormally Rapid Currency Deflation at Year-End,” read a New York Times headline. The Germans didn’t know it, but they had already turned their money into wallpaper; the next year would see hyperinflation, when inflation races ahead at more than 50 percent a month. It moved so fast that prices changed in a single hour. Yet even as it did so, the country’s financial authorities failed to see inflation. They thought they were witnessing increased demand for money.

The greater the denial before, the faster the inflation accelerates after. Author Daniel Yergin tells the story of a student in Freiburg who ordered a cup of coffee in a cafe; the price was 5,000 marks. Then he had another. When the bill came, it was 14,000. “If you want to save money and you want two cups of coffee, you should order them both at the same time,” he was told.

Extreme Example Germany in the 1920s is always the extreme example. But one form of denial then warrants comparison to the U.S. today.

Bernanke talks about prices in one area - energy, for example -- as different from those in the rest of the economy. The Germans, in their denial, thought their problem was limited to exchange rates, and that their domestic economy had hope. Risibly, Chancellor Joseph Wirth tried to tie down prices by regulating foreign currency. The equivalent, and equivalently risible, move today is the Ralph Nader effort to get the administration to push down oil prices.

The reason a little inflation is not all right, and the reason inflation comes suddenly, is expectations.

The phrase “perception is reality” is overused generally. But perception can be reality in monetary policy. The bond market doesn’t act merely on what it sees. It acts on what it expects of the Fed or the government. And our own Fed has let us know it’s capable of just about everything, which includes inflationary monetary policy. Disillusionment can come as fast as a gust, but building faith that the government won’t inflate again is like building a new sailboat, a project of years. Another way to put this is how the central banker Henry Wallich did. Inflation is like a banana, Jerry Jordan of the Cleveland Fed quoted him as saying. Once you see one brown spot, it’s too late.

The reason that markets haven’t jumped yet is that the last great inflation and correction happened in the late 1970s and early 1980s, just long enough ago that most adults in the financial markets don’t remember it.

We can debate whether today’s challenge resembles that faced in the early 1980s, or something worse. But one thing is clear: pretty soon, we’ll all be in deep water.
 
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