U.S. incomes reveal racial divide

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Notice that the most significant drop is in the incomes of black males


U.S. incomes reveal racial divide

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Decades after the civil rights movement, the income gap between black and white families in the United States has grown, says a new study that tracked the incomes of some 2,300 families for more than 30 years.

Incomes have increased among both black and white families in the past three decades -- mainly because more women are in the work force. But the increase was greater among whites, according to the study being released Tuesday.

One reason for the growing disparity: Incomes among black men have actually declined in the past three decades, when adjusted for inflation. They were offset only by gains among black women.

Incomes among white men, meanwhile, were relatively stagnant, while those of white women increased more than fivefold.

"Overall, incomes are going up. But not all children are benefiting equally from the American dream," said Julia Isaacs, a fellow at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

Isaacs wrote a series of three reports that looked at the incomes of parents in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and of their grown children 30 years later. Isaacs compared the incomes of parents who were in their 30s with the incomes of their children, once they reached the same age group.

Parents have long hoped that their children would grow up to be more successful than they were. Hopes were especially high for black children who came of age following the civil rights movement of the 1960s.

The reports found that about two-thirds of the children surveyed grew up to have higher family incomes than their parents had 30 years earlier.

Grown black children were just as likely as whites to have higher incomes than their parents. However, incomes among whites increased more than those of their black counterparts.

The result: In 2004, a typical black family had an income that was only 58 percent of a typical white family's. In 1974, median black incomes were 63 percent those of whites.

"Too many Americans, whites and even some blacks, think that the playing field has indeed leveled," said Marc Morial, president and CEO of the National Urban League.

It has not, he added.

"We are like fingers on the hand," Morial said of black and white Americans. "We are on the same hand, but we are separate fingers."

Morial blamed the disparities on inadequate schools in black neighborhoods, workplace discrimination and too many black families with only one parent.

"The public policy commitment to this has been sketchy over the last 30 years," Morial said. "There has not been a real focus on this."

Perhaps most disturbing, middle-income black families do not appear to be passing on higher incomes to their children in the same way that white families have, Isaacs said.

She found that only one in three black children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents.

"That means a majority ended up slipping down," Isaacs said.

Among whites, about two-thirds of the children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents, she said.

On a positive note, black children from poor families were much more likely to grow up to have higher incomes than their parents, Isaacs said.

Isaacs compiled the reports for the Economic Mobility Project, a collaboration of senior economists and researchers from four Washington think tanks that span the ideological spectrum. The project is funded and managed by the Pew Charitable Trusts.

Isaacs used survey data from the Panel Study of Income Dynamics, which is conducted at the University of Michigan. E-mail to a friend

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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/13/income.gap.ap/index.html
 
Notice that the most significant drop is in the incomes of black males


U.S. incomes reveal racial divide

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Decades after the civil rights movement, the income gap between black and white families in the United States has grown, says a new study that tracked the incomes of some 2,300 families for more than 30 years.

Incomes have increased among both black and white families in the past three decades -- mainly because more women are in the work force. But the increase was greater among whites, according to the study being released Tuesday.

One reason for the growing disparity: Incomes among black men have actually declined in the past three decades, when adjusted for inflation. They were offset only by gains among black women.

I'm so glad you posted this.

There are some deluded people on this board who think whitey has made a great country here for us non-white folk.

Other than athletes and entertainers, it seems like the community is really suffering compared to honkeys.
 
Notice that the most significant drop is in the incomes of black males


U.S. incomes reveal racial divide

WASHINGTON (AP) --

Incomes among white men, meanwhile, were relatively stagnant, while those of white women increased more than fivefold.



The result: In 2004, a typical black family had an income that was only 58 percent of a typical white family's. In 1974, median black incomes were 63 percent those of whites.


"Too many Americans, whites and even some blacks, think that the playing field has indeed leveled," said Marc Morial, president and CEO of the National Urban League.



Perhaps most disturbing, middle-income black families do not appear to be passing on higher incomes to their children in the same way that white families have, Isaacs said.

She found that only one in three black children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents.

"That means a majority ended up slipping down," Isaacs said.


Among whites, about two-thirds of the children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents, she said.

On a positive note, black children from poor families were much more likely to grow up to have higher incomes than their parents, Isaacs said.



Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/13/income.gap.ap/index.html



Just a couple of thoughts:

Incomes among white men, meanwhile, were relatively stagnant, while those of white women increased more than fivefold.

White women are the overwhelming beneficiary of affirmative action whether through their own effort or through the effort of their spouse who use their name to do business through.


The result: In 2004, a typical black family had an income that was only 58 percent of a typical white family's. In 1974, median black incomes were 63 percent those of whites.


The rate of re-marriage of divorced black couples are low especially if there are children involved.



I don't know what is causing this trend below:


She found that only one in three black children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents.

"That means a majority ended up slipping down," Isaacs said.




However contrary to what is shown this is a good progress indicator:

On a positive note, black children from poor families were much more likely to grow up to have higher incomes than their parents, Isaacs said.




:cool:
 
i said this in another thread earlier..

the avg cleveland ohio male makes less then 10 bucks an hour. i see young kats doing the strangest of jobs such as sign holder on a corner, or you'll see the temp companies packed in the morning with men trying to get jobs day by day...doesn't make sense...
 
We don't invest in real estate or the market like they do.

We don't save money like they do.

Lower numbers of high school not to mention college graduates.

Too many kids out of wedlock.

Parents can't pass on their wealth cause they are helping raise grand kids.

Many of our youth don't want minimum wage starter jobs. Rather be hustling.

Won't do what it takes to get ahead like ... taking out them distracting purple braids.

Be you and do you on your time. Conform on their time.
 
i said this in another thread earlier..

the avg cleveland ohio male makes less then 10 bucks an hour. i see young kats doing the strangest of jobs such as sign holder on a corner, or you'll see the temp companies packed in the morning with men trying to get jobs day by day...doesn't make sense...
it does if they have felonies or no education or no resources to pursue better opportunities

If only they were trying harder like Bill Cosby. :smh:
 
it does if they have felonies or no education or no resources to pursue better opportunities

If only they were trying harder like Bill Cosby. :smh:







Cosby: "Lower income blacks are not holding their end of their bargain"...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:




She found that only one in three black children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents.

"That means a majority ended up slipping down," Isaacs said.
 
Cosby: "Lower income blacks are not holding their end of their bargain"...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:




She found that only one in three black children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents.

"That means a majority ended up slipping down," Isaacs said.
Cosby -"Middle income blacks are not holding up their end of the bargain"

:hmm: punk bitch wouldnt dare say that shit
 
She found that only one in three black children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents.

"That means a majority ended up slipping down," Isaacs said.




However contrary to what is shown this is a good progress indicator:

On a positive note, black children from poor families were much more likely to grow up to have higher incomes than their parents, Isaacs said.

:cool:

Actually, this is even more distressing.

This is basically saying all the progress made from poverty is reversed once you become middle class.

Permanent underclass.

In fact, it doesn't say MOST children from poor families, it says MORE LIKELY. My question, more likely than what?

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In fact, almost every athlete and entertainer, including Bill Cosby face this (not in the article, just my extrapolation)...

children from wealthy families invariably make less than their parents.

Does this mean Cosby is a failure, or he has not held up his end of the social contract?
 
Actually, this is even more distressing.

This is basically saying all the progress made from poverty is reversed once you become middle class.

Permanent underclass.

In fact, it doesn't say MOST children from poor families, it says MORE LIKELY. My question, more likely than what?

============
In fact, almost every athlete and entertainer, including Bill Cosby face this (not in the article, just my extrapolation)...

children from wealthy families invariably make less than their parents.

Does this mean Cosby is a failure, or he has not held up his end of the social contract?




It just means that he may be targeting the wrong group of people.........

i.e. making others the scapegoat.
 
We don't invest in real estate or the market like they do.

We don't save money like they do.

Lower numbers of high school not to mention college graduates.

Too many kids out of wedlock.

Parents can't pass on their wealth cause they are helping raise grand kids.

Many of our youth don't want minimum wage starter jobs. Rather be hustling.

Won't do what it takes to get ahead like ... taking out them distracting purple braids.

Be you and do you on your time. Conform on their time.

couldn't have said it better
 
Just a couple of thoughts:

She found that only one in three black children from middle-income families grew up to have higher incomes than their parents.


I wonder if the manufacturing trends can explain some of this. These generational income trends may depend on whether a family got a good "factory" job in the 1960s and 1970s. If the parents were lucky enough to get a "good factory job," they would have used that job (instead of higher education) to get to the middle incomes.

However, as their children came of age in the 1980s-2000s, those same good factory jobs no longer exist. Since working class parents don't always focus especially on higher educational values, only the one child of three that went to college would be doing as good as his parents. The other two children would be doing the same hard labor as their parents, but only making $10 an hour. Only the college graduate would maintain middle income status, while the other two would slide to poverty.
 
This doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out! :confused: Two Incomes are always better than one! "If" it's true that nearly 70% of black kids are born out of wedlock, they're already behind the power curve.:(
 
We don't invest in real estate or the market like they do.

We don't save money like they do.

Lower numbers of high school not to mention college graduates.

Too many kids out of wedlock.

Parents can't pass on their wealth cause they are helping raise grand kids.

Many of our youth don't want minimum wage starter jobs. Rather be hustling.

Won't do what it takes to get ahead like ... taking out them distracting purple braids.

Be you and do you on your time. Conform on their time.

NO MONEY = NO EDUCATION
NO EDUCATION=MINIMUM WAGE JOBS
MINIMUM WAGE JOB = NO REAL CHANCE OF ACCUMULATING WEALTH

ENDLESS CYCLE OF GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK



DONT CONFORM TRANSFORM
 
I'm so glad you posted this.

There are some deluded people on this board who think whitey has made a great country here for us non-white folk.

Other than athletes and entertainers, it seems like the community is really suffering compared to honkeys.

The INCOME DROP AMONG BLACK MALES IS TO BE EXPECTED:

30 years ago, 70-80% (depending on whose STATS you use)OF BLACK MALES GRADUATED FROM HS..................

Fast Forward to today, and among black MALES, the true graduation rate is thought to be BELOW 50%.......................

Question:

What type of career can you legitimately have when you drop out of HS?

What type of foundation can be built when 50% of ANY ETHNICITY'S Male Population drops out of HS?

You can't blame RACISM and "FUNDING" for these fuck-ups; these fuck-ups are the sole RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY!

Slavery 175 years ago, ain't making young niggas drop out in 2007; but bad role models like Fiddy Cent is!
 
The

Question:

What type of career can you legitimately have when you drop out of HS?

What type of foundation can be built when 50% of ANY ETHNICITY'S Male Population drops out of HS?

You can't blame RACISM and "FUNDING" for these fuck-ups; these fuck-ups are the sole RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY!


CO-SIGN
 
This doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out! :confused: Two Incomes are always better than one! "If" it's true that nearly 70% of black kids are born out of wedlock, they're already behind the power curve.:(

THANK YOU, CO-SIGN. BLACKS NEED TO GET MARRIED AND STAY MARRIED.
 
We don't invest in real estate or the market like they do.

We don't save money like they do.

Lower numbers of high school not to mention college graduates.

Too many kids out of wedlock.

Parents can't pass on their wealth cause they are helping raise grand kids.

Many of our youth don't want minimum wage starter jobs. Rather be hustling.

Won't do what it takes to get ahead like ... taking out them distracting purple braids.

Be you and do you on your time. Conform on their time.

MY GOD. THIS IS THE MEANEST TRUTH EVER
 
NO MONEY = NO EDUCATION
NO EDUCATION=MINIMUM WAGE JOBS
MINIMUM WAGE JOB = NO REAL CHANCE OF ACCUMULATING WEALTH

ENDLESS CYCLE OF GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK



DONT CONFORM TRANSFORM

No money? Get great grades and you got scholarships coming your way.
No money? Apply for grants.
No money? Get a loan.
No money? Get a job and save. Then save some more and then invest some.
No money? Wait until you have to go.

Minimum wage job? Don't go rushing to move out your parent's/guardian's house.
Minumum wage job? Save save save. Invest invest invest.
Minumim wage job? Get another job, or get a better job.
Minimum wage job? Work hard and look for avenues to be promoted in said job.
Minimum wage job?

Conforming IS transforming if you know what you are doing. That's what I was talking about.
 
We don't invest in real estate or the market like they do.

We don't save money like they do.

Lower numbers of high school not to mention college graduates.

Too many kids out of wedlock.

Parents can't pass on their wealth cause they are helping raise grand kids.

Many of our youth don't want minimum wage starter jobs. Rather be hustling.

Won't do what it takes to get ahead like ... taking out them distracting purple braids.

Be you and do you on your time. Conform on their time.


You are right because we are lazy animals, we were bred for slavery and nothing else. no matter how much they educate us we will always be inferior.
I tried to conform but my skin stayed black and my hair stayed kinky so i failed.
I went to an inferior black college HOWARD U, upon graduating I got a good job but i knew it was because of affirmitave action that i got it, because some white guys applied also and there is no way in hell i could have been more qualified:smh:



^^^^^^SARCASM^^^^^
 
You are right because we are lazy animals, we were bred for slavery and nothing else. no matter how much they educate us we will always be inferior.
I tried to conform but my skin stayed black and my hair stayed kinky so i failed.
I went to an inferior black college HOWARD U, upon graduating I got a good job but i knew it was because of affirmitave action that i got it, because some white guys applied also and there is no way in hell i could have been more qualified:smh:



^^^^^^SARCASM^^^^^

Hurt people, hurt people.:smh:
 
You are right because we are lazy animals, we were bred for slavery and nothing else. no matter how much they educate us we will always be inferior.
I tried to conform but my skin stayed black and my hair stayed kinky so i failed.
I went to an inferior black college HOWARD U, upon graduating I got a good job but i knew it was because of affirmitave action that i got it, because some white guys applied also and there is no way in hell i could have been more qualified:smh:



^^^^^^SARCASM^^^^^

HBCU grads...:smh:
your attitudes...
why do you guys seem so closed minded & never want to accept the facts as facts? its to inform you thats all .
 
Do I really believe that I will make the same money as my counterpart with the same or better skills when it is a White person...no.
Did my education (BEE from GA Tech) get me better opportunities?...no

Its because the companies iare ran by a group that will never fully accept me. They see me as inferior thus raises go to those in the clique.

I now work for the federal government doing the same job that requires less than my skill set. I'm the only person with a degree...I'm the loweswt paid. Can I force them to pay me more....no.

I believe we need more business that hire us. The businesses need to compete in the open market place. This forces the established businesses to compete for the talent.
I also believe the companies need to train employees and provide a career path. I think its naive to just say get a job....a job where? We outsource all the labor to India and China. We need a real change. Young people need local leadership, mentorship and JOBS that provide a chance to excel..not just flipping burgers.

JMO
 
I believe we need more business that hire us. The businesses need to compete in the open market place. This forces the established businesses to compete for the talent.
I also believe the companies need to train employees and provide a career path. I think its naive to just say get a job....a job where? We outsource all the labor to India and China. We need a real change. Young people need local leadership, mentorship and JOBS that provide a chance to excel..not just flipping burgers.

JMO



:yes::yes::yes:

Having a job with a path will lead to much better successess that working one job for 4-5 years, then moving on to whatever place is hiring next will get you no where in the long run. You need something that has different goal points to reach and keep going for them that way you stay competitive in the marketplace and keep making yourself better
 
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