U.S. churchs: Washington 'raining down terror'

QueEx

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<font size="5"><center>U.S. church alliance: Washington is 'raining down
terror' with Iraq war, other policies</font size></center>


The Canadian Press
Saturday, Feb 18, 2006

PORTO ALEGRE, Brazil (AP) - A coalition of American churches sharply denounced the U.S.-led war in Iraq on Saturday, accusing Washington of "raining down terror" and apologizing to other countries for "the violence, degradation and poverty our nation has sown."
The statement, issued at the largest gathering of Christian churches in nearly a decade, also warned the United States was pushing the world toward environmental catastrophe with a "culture of consumption" and its refusal to back international accords seeking to battle global warming.

"We lament with special anguish the war in Iraq, launched in deception and violating global norms of justice and human rights," said the statement from representatives of the 34 U.S. members of World Council of Churches. "We mourn all who have died or been injured in this war. We acknowledge with shame abuses carried out in our name."

The World Council of Churches includes more than 350 mainstream Protestant, Anglican and Orthodox churches; the Roman Catholic Church is not a member. The U.S. groups in the WCC include the Episcopal Church, the Presbyterian Church (USA), the United Methodist Church, several Orthodox churches and Baptist denominations, among others.

The statement is part of widening religious pressure on the Bush administration, which still counts on the support of evangelical churches and other conservative denominations but is widely unpopular with liberal-minded Protestant congregations.

Rev. Leonid Kishkovsky, the moderator for the U.S. group of WCC members, said the letter was backed by the leaders of the churches but was not cleared by lower-level bodies. He predicted friction within congregations about the tone of the message.

"There is much internal anguish and there is division," said Kishkovsky, ecumenical officer of the Orthodox Church of America. "I believe church leaders and communities are wrestling with the moral questions that this letter is addressing."
On Friday, the U.S. National Council of Churches - which includes many WCC members - released a letter appealing to Washington to close the Guantanamo Bay detention facility and saying reports of alleged torture violated "the fundamental Christian belief in the dignity of the human person."

The two-page statement from the WCC group came at the midpoint of a 10-day meeting of more than 4,000 religious leaders, scholars and activists discussing trends and goals for major Christian denominations for the coming decades. The WCC's last global assembly was in 1998 in Zimbabwe - just four months after al-Qaida staged twin bombings at U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

"Our country responded (to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks) by seeking to reclaim a privileged and secure place in the world, raining down terror on the truly vulnerable among our global neighbours . . . entering into imperial projects that seek to dominate and control for the sake of national interests," said the statement. "Nations have been demonized and God has been enlisted in national agendas that are nothing short of idolatrous."

Rev. Sharon Watkins, president of the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), worried that some may interpret the statement as undermining U.S. troops in Iraq.

"We honour their courage and sense of duty, but . . . we, as people of faith, have to say to our brothers and sisters, 'We are so profoundly sorry,"' Watkins said.

The message also accused U.S. officials of ignoring warnings about climate change and treating the world's "finite resources as if they are private possessions." It went on to criticize U.S. domestic policies for refusing to confront racism and poverty.

"Hurricane Katrina revealed to the world those left behind in our own nation by the rupture of our social contract," said the statement.

The churches said they had "grown heavy with guilt" for not doing enough to speak out against the Iraq war and other issues. The statement asked forgiveness for a world that's "grown weary from the violence, degradation and poverty our nation has sown."

http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=world_home&articleID=2175625
 

Dannyblueyes

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It's interesting that you had to go to a Canadian news source to find this out. Great find anyhow.
 

nittie

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The churches said they had "grown heavy with guilt" for not doing enough to speak out against the Iraq war and other issues. The statement asked forgiveness for a world that's "grown weary from the violence, degradation and poverty our nation has sown."


As usual the Church waits until it's heavy with guilt to speak out.
 

QueEx

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Its ironic that many of those who don't believe in Churchs, unless its fried, in the first place would then be angry at the Church for responding, albeit later than some would have liked.

QueEx
 

QueEx

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I also find it quite ironic that many of those who would all but shut churchs down, unless its fried, are also hypocritical of the press with respect to the Muslim prophet charicatures.

As Dr. Lee said at the trial of O.J. Simpson: Something not right here.

QueEx
 

nittie

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Hypocrisy is the thing should the Church's response to an atrocity be immediate or should it wait until guilt sets in I think if Churches wait too long to respond it can’t be taken seriously unless it’s fried or barbequed.
 

QueEx

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You may rush an order, fried or barbecued, but Churchs,
like everyone else, should never rush to judgment, lest
the hypocriticals' judgment of Churchs hypocracy, be made true.

QueEx
 

VegasGuy

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What else do you expect this church to say? "Good job Bush?" It's the political season and politicians want jobs and government wealth. They don't give a shit about iraqis or anything else but power.

-VG
 

Dolemite

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GET YOU HOT said:
Thing is, churches profit from the WAR...a sickninig thought...but it's true.
nothing like a good old war and hard economic times to boost attendance and the tithes
 

GET YOU HOT

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Contributions from Veterans, parents, family members and then there is the wakes, for some funerals.
 

African Herbsman

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Presbyterian Church publishes 9/11 conspiracy theory
Malaysia Sun
Tuesday 8th August, 2006

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.

The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.

In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the United States the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.

But after investigating he concluded that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, military personnel were given stand-down orders not to intercept hijacked flights and the 9/11 Commission, ostensibly created to uncover the truth behind the events of 9/11, 'simply ignored evidence' that the administration was involved in the attacks.

Griffin further asserts that such events such as that of 9/11 are part of a long history of 'false-flag attacks,' attacks orchestrated by governments against their own people to garner popular support for military action.

Griffin is a professor at California's Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University, and a codirector of the Center for Process Studies.


http://story.malaysiasun.com/p.x/ct/9/cid/b8de8e630faf3631/id/7cca827f00576d2a/
 

VegasGuy

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Interesting, no condemnation from the seperation of Church and State crowd. The church can get into state affairs but when the state even briefly gets into faith matters it's time to sue.

-VG
 
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