Two-Parent Black Families on the Rise: Black women's better control cited as 1 reason

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“These racial differences have waned as a growing number of black women have begun to exercise greater control over their fertility,” Professor Furstenberg writes, “and as white women have started to experience the same sorts of constraints that blacks were feeling about their prospects of forming a lasting marriage when Moynihan focused on their plight.”

The number of black children being raised by two parents appears to be edging higher than at any time in a generation, at nearly 40 percent, according to newly released census data.

Demographers said such a trend might be partly attributable to the growing proportion of immigrants in the nation’s black population. It may have been driven, too, by the values of an emerging black middle class, a trend that could be jeopardized by the current economic meltdown.

The Census Bureau attributed an indeterminate amount of the increase to revised definitions adopted in 2007, which identify as parents any man and woman living together, whether or not they are married or the child’s biological parents.

According to the bureau’s estimates, the number of black children living with two parents was 59 percent in 1970, falling to 42 percent in 1980, 38 percent in 1990 and 35 percent in 2004. In 2007, the latest year for which data is available, it was 40 percent.

For non-Hispanic whites, the figure in 2007 was 77 percent, down from 90 percent in 1970.


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The number of black children being raised by two parents appears to be edging higher than at any time in a generation, at nearly 40 percent, according to newly released census data.

Demographers said such a trend might be partly attributable to the growing proportion of immigrants in the nation’s black population. It may have been driven, too, by the values of an emerging black middle class, a trend that could be jeopardized by the current economic meltdown.

The Census Bureau attributed an indeterminate amount of the increase to revised definitions adopted in 2007, which identify as parents any man and woman living together, whether or not they are married or the child’s biological parents.

According to the bureau’s estimates, the number of black children living with two parents was 59 percent in 1970, falling to 42 percent in 1980, 38 percent in 1990 and 35 percent in 2004. In 2007, the latest year for which data is available, it was 40 percent.


For non-Hispanic whites, the figure in 2007 was 77 percent, down from 90 percent in 1970.


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I need to read the article and come back to comment because what I highlighted seems pure statistical bullshit. If the definition was not changed until 2007 (including any co-habitating male and female who indicated they were raising a child together), they are trying to say in 1970 that 90% of white children were raised in a two-parent (i.e. Married) home? There were almost NO unmarried white girls out there having kids out of wedlock?
 
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I need to read the article and come back to comment because what I highlighted seems pure statistical bullshit. If the definition was not changed until 2007 (including any co-habitating male and female who indicated they were raising a child together), they are trying to say in 1970 that 90% of white children were raised in a two-parent (i.e. Married) home? There were almost NO unmarried white girls out there having kids out of wedlock?


Or white dead beat dads...yeah, the numbers look pretty skewed in favor of the conquerors...
 
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Or white dead beat dads...yeah, the numbers look pretty skewed in favor of the conquerors...

And no divorced white couples either? :smh: . . . The link was to another thread by Keyser. I for one usually give a lot of stats leeway and do not automatically jump into the "these stats are bullshit" bandwagon, but this is really skewed . . .
 
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i wonder what would have been the reaction on the main board if you would have advertised this post the same way.


hmmmm
 
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And no divorced white couples either? :smh: . . . The link was to another thread by Keyser. I for one usually give a lot of stats leeway and do not automatically jump into the "these stats are bullshit" bandwagon, but this is really skewed . . .

i'm getting better with accepting the empirical veritas they impart, but validity is a must, and in this case, they really don't give the reader that much credit with regard to common sense...

i wonder what would have been the reaction on the main board if you would have advertised this post the same way.


hmmmm

I agree with this woman completely, especially on the pregnancy, education issue.

I said in the abortion thread, that we should sterilize 50% of our young women at age 13, sadly it must be done. Then a second sterilization process at age 28/30. To control the population and maximise intelligent breeding.

Also to stop the worthless whores of mothers with six kids from six different men.

Everyone jumped on my ass, but I have a plan for my black people, my measures may be harsh, but it needs to be done. You don't even want to know what I think about Africa and the Ghettoes. Lets just say sometimes its better to cleanse and restart again.


:smh:
 
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A link to the actual PDF tables of the Statistical Abstract of the Unites States, for the non-Colin statisticians on the board:

http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/statab2006_2009.html

Home Page to the US Census Bureau - remember there is a census to be done for 2010. I think they are starting to hire as soon as next year.

http://www.census.gov/index.html

http://www.census.gov/2010censusjobs/index.php

Good ish, my man...

The numbers have the mutants above the Originals in unmarried baby making by about one percent for the 2000s, i didn't see any stats with regard to the seventies though, but i don't think it would be difficult to see the flaw in the original piece...
 
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**posting the text here for people like me who hate having to click a separate link**

December 17, 2008
Two-Parent Black Families Showing Gains
By SAM ROBERTS
The number of black children being raised by two parents appears to be edging higher than at any time in a generation, at nearly 40 percent, according to newly released census data.

Demographers said such a trend might be partly attributable to the growing proportion of immigrants in the nation’s black population. It may have been driven, too, by the values of an emerging black middle class, a trend that could be jeopardized by the current economic meltdown.

The Census Bureau attributed an indeterminate amount of the increase to revised definitions adopted in 2007, which identify as parents any man and woman living together, whether or not they are married or the child’s biological parents.

According to the bureau’s estimates, the number of black children living with two parents was 59 percent in 1970, falling to 42 percent in 1980, 38 percent in 1990 and 35 percent in 2004. In 2007, the latest year for which data is available, it was 40 percent.

For non-Hispanic whites, the figure in 2007 was 77 percent, down from 90 percent in 1970.

While expressing skepticism about an increase so large in such a short time in the number of black children living with two parents, a number of experts said the shift was potentially significant.

“It’s a positive change,” said Prof. Robert J. Sampson, the chairman of Harvard’s sociology department. “It’s been hidden.”

The 2007 figure, itself, was more or less hidden among the nearly 1,400 tables in the 2009 Statistical Abstract of the United States, a portrait-by-numbers of the nation released Tuesday by the Census Bureau.

Andrew J. Cherlin, a sociology professor at Johns Hopkins University, said that before 2007, a child living with two unmarried parents was usually classified as living with either a mother or a father, depending on who was the head of the household.

“The unmarried parent was invisible,” Professor Cherlin said. Given a new category, “living with both parents, not married to each other,” he added, “I think the news is that the Census Bureau estimates that about 3 percent of American children are living with two unmarried parents. Because of the increases in living-together relationships, this is probably a higher figure than a generation ago.”

Other experts generally embraced the direction of the statistics, if not the dimension of the changes they suggest.

“What we might be seeing is more cohabitation,” said Kay S. Hymowitz, a scholar at the Manhattan Institute, a research group.

Douglas S. Massey, a sociology professor at Princeton, cautioned that “a bad economy does not make for stable marriages, so it is possible that we may see a reversal in 2008.”

Professors Massey and Sampson recently edited a retrospective for the annals of the American Academy of Political and Social Science on Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s seminal study of the black family.

One contributor, Frank F. Furstenberg, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, cites converging trends of single motherhood by race, with the number of non-Hispanic white children living with two parents declining over a generation.

“These racial differences have waned as a growing number of black women have begun to exercise greater control over their fertility,” Professor Furstenberg writes, “and as white women have started to experience the same sorts of constraints that blacks were feeling about their prospects of forming a lasting marriage when Moynihan focused on their plight.”

Among other facts, the Statistical Abstract reveals that West Virginia is the only state in which more people have died since 2000 than have been born; more Burmese were granted asylum than people from any other country; more people speak Italian at home than Arabic; beds injure more people than bicycles; per capita consumption of tea has surpassed that of fruit juice; enrollment of college students from Saudi Arabia and Iran has returned to the levels before the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Also, women make up a majority of pharmacists, bartenders and bus drivers and nearly half the medical students granted degrees; bottled water consumption is up at the same time that per capita water use nationally is down; 91 percent of the nearly 12 million surgical and other cosmetic procedures performed in 2007 involved women; consumer complaints against airlines soared to 10,960 last year from 6,452 the year before. Among adults, Jews no longer outnumber Mormons; 57 percent of teenage girls reported having sexual contact in the previous 12 months.

Americans are spending more on prescription drugs ($259 billion in 2007, compared with $72 billion in 1995); the number of people living on the Atlantic Coast of Florida has risen 13 percent since 2000; gambling revenue at American Indian sites nearly doubled to $26 billion since 2002; nearly half of Americans under age 5 are Hispanic or nonwhite; the number of people 75 and over has doubled since 1980 to 18 million; only 5.5 percent of workers age 16 to 24 are represented by unions.

The Statistical Abstract includes a wealth of data from the Census Bureau and other sources. Most of it had been previously released, but not necessarily in context or in such an accessible format.
 
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Ahhhh. I see where the issue was. Two-parent home was previously defined as a married couple living together raising the kids. Now it includes those who live together but are not married. I am not buying that only 59% of black babies were living with 2 parents in 1970. That doesn't even make sense. :smh: But anyway, glad to see the numbers are coming up again?
 
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Ahhhh. I see where the issue was. Two-parent home was previously defined as a married couple living together raising the kids. Now it includes those who live together but are not married. I am not buying that only 59% of black babies were living with 2 parents in 1970. That doesn't even make sense. :smh: But anyway, glad to see the numbers are coming up again?

Yeah, i can't find the old stats...wonder why, but the numbers have been in the Originals(that's our team...damn, maybe i am a racist...)...favor since earlier this millenium...
 
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Ahhhh. I see where the issue was. Two-parent home was previously defined as a married couple living together raising the kids. Now it includes those who live together but are not married. I am not buying that only 59% of black babies were living with 2 parents in 1970. That doesn't even make sense. :smh: But anyway, glad to see the numbers are coming up again?

Well, at least one could argue that the 59% figure could have been somewhat accurate in 1970 (if one factors in the divorce rate, widows/widowers, and the fact that there were Black single-parent homes at the time), but the statement that at the same time 90% of White Children lived in two-parent homes is statistically ridiculous! This would mean a COMBINED TOTAL divorce, separation, death, pregnant teen, deadbeat dads, unmarried mothers, etc., rate of less than 10%.

Article said:
For non-Hispanic whites, the figure in 2007 was 77 percent, down from 90 percent in 1970.


Article said:
While expressing skepticism about an increase so large in such a short time in the number of black children living with two parents, a number of experts said the shift was potentially significant.


So, there is skepticism about an increase so "large" (5% in 3 years) in such a short time, but a decrease of 17% between 1970-1980 and 6% between 1980-1990 (overall 19% between 1970-2007) is okay.


Article said:
According to the bureau’s estimates, the number of black children living with two parents was 59 percent in 1970, falling to 42 percent in 1980, 38 percent in 1990 and 35 percent in 2004. In 2007, the latest year for which data is available, it was 40 percent.
 
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This census is just a load of bullshit. There has been two parent black families for as long as I could remember.

Why is it that only black families are being portrayed as such?
 
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This census is just a load of bullshit. There has been two parent black families for as long as I could remember.

Why is it that only black families are being portrayed as such?

PREACH!
 
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Well, at least one could argue that the 59% figure could have been somewhat accurate in 1970 (if one factors in the divorce rate, widows/widowers, and the fact that there were Black single-parent homes at the time), but the statement that at the same time 90% of White Children lived in two-parent homes is statistically ridiculous! This would mean a COMBINED TOTAL divorce, separation, death, pregnant teen, deadbeat dads, unmarried mothers, etc., rate of less than 10%.

Totally agree. Hows that saying go? "Lies, damn lies, and statistics".
 
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The number of parents active in the childrens lives are more important that how many parents live in the household. No census can capture this honestly.
 
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