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Netflix Is Losing U.S. Subscribers for the First Time in Eight Years
By Josef Adalian@tvmojoe
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After years of unchecked growth, Netflix saw its subscriber base decrease in the United States this spring — the first time that has happened since the Qwikster debacle of 2011. The streaming giant had forecast a gain of 300,000 during the second quarter (April through June), but instead it lost about 130,000 homes here. Thanks to international growth, Netflix still added 2.7 million customers overall, pushing its global base to a record 151 million. But even that wasn’t entirely good news: Netflix had told investors it expected to gain about 5 million new customers in the quarter, making this its biggest missed forecast since 2016. So what’s behind this gloomy quarter for the company?

In a letter to shareholders, Netflix conceded that this spring’s price hike(around 18 percent here, to $13 per month) likely played a role in the U.S. decline.

“Our missed forecast was across all regions but slightly more so in regions with price increases,” it told investors. But much the same way that so-so shows can send ratings down for linear networks, Netflix said its subpar quarter was likely the result of underperforming programming. “We think Q2’s content slate drove less growth in paid net adds than we anticipated,” the streamer said. Netflix’s spring slate included a number of Emmy-bait titles, including nature doc Our Planet, new dramedy Dead to Me and the Ava DuVernay miniseries When They See Us. As has become Netflix’s habit, it released some viewership stats for all three projects, saying they were seen in 33 million, 30 million, and 25 million homes within their first four weeks of release. It also talked up viewership for its movie slate, saying Adam Sandler’s Murder Mystery was streamed in 73 million homes, while The Perfect Dateand Always Be My Maybenotched 48 million and 32 million household views in their first month.


But as big as those numbers sound, they apparently couldn’t drive enough new subscribers. The streamer says it expects U.S. growth to resume and international growth to pick up steam this summer thanks to the return of tentpole titles such as Stranger Things (which racked up 40 million viewers in less than a week, per the company), 13 Reasons Why, and Money Heist. “While our U.S. paid membership was essentially flat in Q2, we expect it to return to more typical growth in Q3 and are seeing that in these early weeks of Q3,” Netflix said, adding that it expects to gain 800,000 U.S. subscribers this summer and 7 million more overall.

Netflix said it didn’t think competition from other services was a contributing factor to its weak spring, “since there wasn’t a material change in the competitive landscape.” There soon will be, however: Apple and Disney are both launching rival services this fall, while WarnerMedia and NBCUniversal will have new digital platforms in 2020. Netflix is also facing the loss of Friends at the start of 2020 and The Office in 2021, depriving viewers of two of the service’s most popular titles. Disney has stopped feeding new theatrical films to Netflix, though titles from 2018 and earlier will remain a bit longer. In its letter, Netflix said that it didn’t expect subscribers to revolt over the two sitcoms’ exits and that the upside of such deals ending is that the budget will be opened up for new shows. “From what we’ve seen in the past, when we drop strong catalog content (Starz and Epix with Sony, Disney and Paramount films or second-run series from Fox, for example), our members shift over to enjoying our other great content,” the streamer spun. So far, Wall Street isn’t loving today’s Netflix news: The company’s stock price plunged after the report was released and was down by as much as 12 percent in after-hours trading as of 5:30 p.m. EDT.

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Too many other services and Disney+ premiering in the fall. I only keep Netflix off the convenience but the $17 or so I'm paying isn't really worth it.
 
Disney+ and HBO Max could potentially send Netflix to bankruptcy soon with all the debt they are carrying.

They could be out of business just as fast as they grew.
 
Yeah, it's always been about price and content, but they seem to be betting on content alone. The price still matters, especially when it's too easy to get their content for free, albeit not as conveniently. At this rate, they'll be losing me, too.
 
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Seems like every Netflix original series is mediocre at best. I can’t get into a single program that other people claim to love.
Stranger things

The OA

Rain

Lost in space

I'm anticipating Orange Is The New Black's final season this month.

The "dramedy" aspirations failed in season 5 with the comic relief during the riots... And the new characters for season 6 were terrible... Bud I'd say it was very good overall. Never as good as Oz at its peak but it hasn't fallen off as badly as Oz did seasons 5 & 6-- a worthy successor IMO.

I may take a break from Netflix for a year or so with this show done, though.
 
We discussed this in one f the threads about their price hikes. Im certain this didnt catch them off guard. Its probably one of the intended purposes as well. Gives them an idea on consumer willingness to absorb price increases as well as a metric to determine how much to increase next time. They increased fees twice in a 15 month span... im sure they got such little push back on he initial bump that they decided to test the waters again prematurely.
 
I actually thought about selling there stock, I don’t think the Disney thing will effect them for a couple of years but it’s just.... well there are only a finite amount of people and technology is moving so fast.

I just got my mom’s a chrome cast and showed her to watch YouTube, saved some movie sites...

90% of this board can find what they want to watch online in 15 min. It will only get easier. ALL streaming services will be in trouble one day.
 
Disney+ has already hurt them. The fact that they have a lower price point and will have pulled all Disney owned content is a major blow.

Netflix is on pace to lose $3 BILLION this year and could potentially default at any time if the cash inflow dries up.

Once that happens, the company stock will drop faster than the coyote off the cliff.

I actually thought about selling there stock, I don’t think the Disney thing will effect them for a couple of years but it’s just.... well there are only a finite amount of people and technology is moving so fast.

I just got my mom’s a chrome cast and showed her to watch YouTube, saved some movie sites...

90% of this board can find what they want to watch online in 15 min. It will only get easier. ALL streaming services will be in trouble one day.
 
Ever since I found out about IPTV and got WYATV and Gearstv I havent looked back since. I have everything Netflix has plus every channel for not even $25 a month on WYATV. I swear by this shit it's the truth. I've saved too much money.
 
She's Gotta Have It canceled by Netflix after 2 seasons, Spike Lee to shop series elsewhere

By Rachel Yang
July 18, 2019 at 12:37 AM EDT
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After two seasons, Spike Lee’s series adaptation of his film She’s Gotta Have Ithas been canceled by Netflix. A representative for the streamer confirmed the news to EW on Wednesday.

The announcement comes less than two months after the show’s second season was released. Lee is expected to shop the series elsewhere.

“Spike Lee is one of the greatest filmmakers of all time and we’re thrilled he brought the series She’s Gotta Have It (1986, based on his first feature film) to Netflix,” said Ted Sarandos, chief content officer at Netflix. “While this is our last season, we’re very proud that it will be on our service for years to come, and excited to be working with Spike on his upcoming Netflix film Da 5 Bloods.”

Starring DeWanda Wise as free-spirited artist Nola Darling, She’s Gotta Have Itfirst aired November 2017. Lee directed every episode of the show, which consisted of 10 episodes in the first season and nine in the second installment. Anthony Ramos, Ilfenesh Hadera, Cleo Anthony, Lyriq Bent, Margot Bingham, Chyna Layne, and Fat Joe also starred in the show.

Lee’s next project for Netflix is Da 5 Bloods, a war drama about Vietnam veterans that will feature the likes of Chadwick Boseman and Giancarlo Esposito.


The cancellation follows Netflix’s report that the company’s second-quarter saw a loss in U.S. subscribers, the first time in eight years. The streamer blamed price increases and a weak content slate for the disappointing earnings.
 
She's Gotta Have It canceled by Netflix after 2 seasons, Spike Lee to shop series elsewhere

By Rachel Yang
July 18, 2019 at 12:37 AM EDT
FBTwitter
image

DAVID LEE/NETFLIX
After two seasons, Spike Lee’s series adaptation of his film She’s Gotta Have Ithas been canceled by Netflix. A representative for the streamer confirmed the news to EW on Wednesday.

The announcement comes less than two months after the show’s second season was released. Lee is expected to shop the series elsewhere.

“Spike Lee is one of the greatest filmmakers of all time and we’re thrilled he brought the series She’s Gotta Have It (1986, based on his first feature film) to Netflix,” said Ted Sarandos, chief content officer at Netflix. “While this is our last season, we’re very proud that it will be on our service for years to come, and excited to be working with Spike on his upcoming Netflix film Da 5 Bloods.”

Starring DeWanda Wise as free-spirited artist Nola Darling, She’s Gotta Have Itfirst aired November 2017. Lee directed every episode of the show, which consisted of 10 episodes in the first season and nine in the second installment. Anthony Ramos, Ilfenesh Hadera, Cleo Anthony, Lyriq Bent, Margot Bingham, Chyna Layne, and Fat Joe also starred in the show.

Lee’s next project for Netflix is Da 5 Bloods, a war drama about Vietnam veterans that will feature the likes of Chadwick Boseman and Giancarlo Esposito.


The cancellation follows Netflix’s report that the company’s second-quarter saw a loss in U.S. subscribers, the first time in eight years. The streamer blamed price increases and a weak content slate for the disappointing earnings.
Season 2 was straight up soft core porn at times
 
Netflix worth it for:

DARK
Money Heist
Bad Guys
Ozark
Russian Doll
OitNB
The Wandering Earth movie
My kids watch a ton of anime on there
Lost in Space
Peaky Blinders
Stranger Things

I could go on. I’m only keeping Hulu for Handmaidens Tale and something else i can’t remember at moment maybe Animal Kingdom which is just SoA with surfing but whatever

On Amazon Prime i check for Fleabag and soon The Boys
 
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