TV Discussion: LOST and that ending UPDATE: 2021 They REALLY need to just admit they messed up!

2 years later, you like the LOST ending?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • No

    Votes: 30 83.3%

  • Total voters
    36
Re: For bitter LOST fans...

But the entire show revolved around a loyal following that watched religiously based largely on all the veiled promises for explanation and reveals. There were entire websites, blogs, forums, and fanclubs devoted to deciphering storylines, coded messages, characters, symbols, etc. etc. Thats what the show was built on. And the writers promised the end would reward those loyal people with closure and answers.

Those guys screwed their fans over big time.

Good for you for being able to enjoy it though. You are definitely one of the few.

And thats all im saying, I already gathered by the 3rd season, that the show is not about reveals, but how far they can push the viewer into the depths of mystery.

The name of the show "lOST" is not saying the characters were lost, they had a general idea where they were, "Lost" referred to the viewers.
 
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8 'Lost' Questions That Are Still Unanswered 10 Years Later

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Ten years ago today, a little show premiered on ABC and became one of the most talked-about, polarizing, revolutionary projects in television history.

That show was called Lost.

On Sept. 22, 2004, Lost debuted with a stunning two-hour pilot, and over the course of six seasons, caused a seismic shift in the way viewers watch, think about, and discuss television. The mysteries at the core of the show spawned dozens of fan sites, where people would exchange theories about the Smoke Monster, the Others, Not Penny's Boat, and the Dharma Initiative.

Many of those mysteries were answered by the creative team led by showrunners Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof. But some were not.

Here are eight unanswered questions that still haunt our dreams at night — and our best attempts to KISS (keep it simple, stupid) them away:

1. Why was Walt so special?

He just was. In 2011, Lindelof himself said at Comic-Con that Walt is special "because he is." That's it, there's no crazy weird reason.

Yeah, he exhibits magical powers, like having premonitions. But there were other "special" people on the show, too. Hurley and Miles could see ghosts.

In a DVD extra called The New Man in Charge, Hurley rescues Walt from a mental hospital to take him back to the island. It's strongly implied that Walt will succeed Hurley as protector of the island. So perhaps he is special because he was fated to become a protector.

[Related: Getting 'Lost' Answers 10 Years Later: Were They All Dead the Whole Time?]

2. Who was on the other outrigger?

In the Season 5 episode, "The Little Prince," Sawyer and Juliet and a few others get into a gunfire fight with mysterious enemies on a boat. Before they can learn of their identities, there is a time-travel shift.

There is an answer to this one — it just hasn't been revealed yet. Earlier this year, Lindelof admitted that they had written a scene explaining who those mysterious enemies were.

"It was going to air in the final season, and it definitely answered who was on the outrigger," he said, adding, "But all the writers… thought it would be much cooler not to answer. … The scene exists on paper. Years from now, for some excellent charity, we'll probably auction it off."

Watch the scene:



3. Where was Christian Shepherd's body?

Jack was on Oceanic Flight 815 to escort his father's corpse back to Los Angeles. After the crash, when Jack found the casket, it was empty.

Later, the Man in Black/the Smoke Monster appeared as Christian Shepherd, as he could take the form of anybody whose body was on the island. But what happened to Christian's body then? Likely, the Smoke Monster got rid of it to keep messing with Jack's head.

4. Why didn't Sun go back to the '70s with the rest of the Oceanic Six?

When the Oceanic Six made their attempt to return to the island, Eloise Hawking told Jack that they had to recreate the circumstances of the first plane crash as closely as possible. But that didn't happen, and Jack, Kate, Sayid, and Hurley time-traveled to the '70s. Sun was the only one who crashed with Ajira Flight 316 on the island in present time. Why?Many fans speculate it's because she wasn't a candidate for the protector job and the rest were.

5. Why can Jacob leave the island, but the Smoke Monster can't?

When Jacob pushed his twin brother into the stream leading to the Source, it killed his brother'sbody but transferred his consciousness to the smoke. Our theory is that this smoke is inextricably tied to the Source and cannot exist away from it. Jacob, though very, very old, is still a regular person and can do regular people things, like travel.

6. Why did Desmond have a false vision of Claire and Aaron leaving the island on a helicopter?

Desmond had premonitory flashes, and one of them was that Claire and Aaron would leave the island on a helicopter — but only if Charlie died. That never happened. What gives?

Well, first, Desmond's visions weren't of the actual future, just a possible future. And perhaps even telling Charlie about his premonition altered the course of events.

7. Did Walt psychically bring that polar bear out of Hurley's comic onto the island?

The Dharma Initiative used polar bears for electromagnetic research, so that explains the presence of them on the island. Did Walt, with his special mind powers, unknowingly attract that polar bear to attack Kate, Sawyer, and the rest of the survivors in Episode 1? Theoretically, it's possible, but it's simpler to think that it was just foreshadowing.

8. Why are Walt, Michael, and a bunch of other characters not present in the church?

The whole point of being in the church was to "let go" — and you could let go and pass on to the afterlife with the people you wanted to let go with. So, Michael wasn't there because the island wouldn't allow him to let go; he was doomed to be one of the Whisper people. Walt wasn't there because he might have wanted to let go with other people.

As Christian Shepherd explained to Jack, "This is a place that you… that you all made together so that you could find one another. The most important part of your life was the time that you spent with these people on that island. That's why all of you are here. Nobody does it alone, Jack. You needed all of them, and they needed you."

So, the people who were in the church were the people who wanted to be together in the church
 
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'Prison Break' Writer Claims 'Lost' Writers Never Planned An Endgame


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Even four years after the frustrating series finale, the last season of “Lost” still causes fans of the show to Hulk out at the slightest mention. But before Season 6, weren’t there already many problems with obvious plot holes, crazy sub-plots that never paid off, as well as many other continuity problems within the popular “Twilight Zone on an Island” show that ran between 2004 and 2010? Just look at the interwebs for many, many, many articles and videos complaining about scattershot scripting with respect to the overall story and mythology of the island.

Nick Santora, writer and executive producer for "Prison Break" and "Scorpion," was a guest on the Nerdist Writer’s Panel Podcast recently: he claimed that “Lost” writers (at least the ones he was friends with, no word on whether or not they’ll continue beings friends with him after what he said during the podcast) had no idea how they were going to wrap up the many crazy plots they came up with for the show, nor did they particularly care. Here’s what Santora said about the subject:

“We had an expression in the room, which was “no polar bears,” which was a reference to “Lost”. I had friends that were writing on “Lost” —I can’t say who they were. I was watching football with one of them, [and] I was telling them how much I loved the show. I’m like “how are you going to pay all this stuff off?” And he looked at me and goes “we’re not.” And I go, “What do you mean you’re not?” He said, “We literally just think of the weirdest, most fucked up thing and write it, and we’re never going to pay it off.” And I look at him and I’m like “that’s such bullshit! You are completely fucking with the audience.” I want to bring a class-action lawsuit on behalf of everyone who watched “Lost” all those years. Nina Hartley jerked people off less that “Lost” did.”

Apart from letting his middle age show by not referencing a more current porn star, Santora expressed what many “Lost” fans and detractors could have guessed all along. However, perhaps this will be the catalyst for fans to finally get some closure and move on. Or they can keep asking why the hell Walt was set up as some sort of a magic child messiah only to be completely ignored during later seasons? [via Uproxx]
 
Re: Two years after 'Lost,' EP Damon Lindelof has 'no regrets' about ending

'Prison Break' Writer Claims 'Lost' Writers Never Planned An Endgame


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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...ost-writers-never-planned-an-endgame-20150119

Even four years after the frustrating series finale, the last season of “Lost” still causes fans of the show to Hulk out at the slightest mention. But before Season 6, weren’t there already many problems with obvious plot holes, crazy sub-plots that never paid off, as well as many other continuity problems within the popular “Twilight Zone on an Island” show that ran between 2004 and 2010? Just look at the interwebs for many, many, many articles and videos complaining about scattershot scripting with respect to the overall story and mythology of the island.

Nick Santora, writer and executive producer for "Prison Break" and "Scorpion," was a guest on the Nerdist Writer’s Panel Podcast recently: he claimed that “Lost” writers (at least the ones he was friends with, no word on whether or not they’ll continue beings friends with him after what he said during the podcast) had no idea how they were going to wrap up the many crazy plots they came up with for the show, nor did they particularly care. Here’s what Santora said about the subject:

“We had an expression in the room, which was “no polar bears,” which was a reference to “Lost”. I had friends that were writing on “Lost” —I can’t say who they were. I was watching football with one of them, [and] I was telling them how much I loved the show. I’m like “how are you going to pay all this stuff off?” And he looked at me and goes “we’re not.” And I go, “What do you mean you’re not?” He said, “We literally just think of the weirdest, most fucked up thing and write it, and we’re never going to pay it off.” And I look at him and I’m like “that’s such bullshit! You are completely fucking with the audience.” I want to bring a class-action lawsuit on behalf of everyone who watched “Lost” all those years. Nina Hartley jerked people off less that “Lost” did.”

Apart from letting his middle age show by not referencing a more current porn star, Santora expressed what many “Lost” fans and detractors could have guessed all along. However, perhaps this will be the catalyst for fans to finally get some closure and move on. Or they can keep asking why the hell Walt was set up as some sort of a magic child messiah only to be completely ignored during later seasons? [via Uproxx]
 
Re: For all those who DEFENDED the ending of LOST...

'Prison Break' Writer Claims 'Lost' Writers Never Planned An Endgame


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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...ost-writers-never-planned-an-endgame-20150119

Even four years after the frustrating series finale, the last season of “Lost” still causes fans of the show to Hulk out at the slightest mention. But before Season 6, weren’t there already many problems with obvious plot holes, crazy sub-plots that never paid off, as well as many other continuity problems within the popular “Twilight Zone on an Island” show that ran between 2004 and 2010? Just look at the interwebs for many, many, many articles and videos complaining about scattershot scripting with respect to the overall story and mythology of the island.

Nick Santora, writer and executive producer for "Prison Break" and "Scorpion," was a guest on the Nerdist Writer’s Panel Podcast recently: he claimed that “Lost” writers (at least the ones he was friends with, no word on whether or not they’ll continue beings friends with him after what he said during the podcast) had no idea how they were going to wrap up the many crazy plots they came up with for the show, nor did they particularly care. Here’s what Santora said about the subject:

“We had an expression in the room, which was “no polar bears,” which was a reference to “Lost”. I had friends that were writing on “Lost” —I can’t say who they were. I was watching football with one of them, [and] I was telling them how much I loved the show. I’m like “how are you going to pay all this stuff off?” And he looked at me and goes “we’re not.” And I go, “What do you mean you’re not?” He said, “We literally just think of the weirdest, most fucked up thing and write it, and we’re never going to pay it off.” And I look at him and I’m like “that’s such bullshit! You are completely fucking with the audience.” I want to bring a class-action lawsuit on behalf of everyone who watched “Lost” all those years. Nina Hartley jerked people off less that “Lost” did.”

Apart from letting his middle age show by not referencing a more current porn star, Santora expressed what many “Lost” fans and detractors could have guessed all along. However, perhaps this will be the catalyst for fans to finally get some closure and move on. Or they can keep asking why the hell Walt was set up as some sort of a magic child messiah only to be completely ignored during later seasons? [via Uproxx]
 
Re: For all those who DEFENDED the ending of LOST...

dam yet another sitcom (SERIES) ive missed..
havent seen one episode
 


Fans still looking to work through those residual Lost finale feelings, Elizabeth Mitchell is happy to be a sounding board.

Mitchell, who played Dr. Juliet Burke for the last four seasons of the hit ABC drama, stopped by Entertainment Weekly Radio (SiriusXM, channel 105) at San Diego Comic-Con, where she reflected on her encounters with the show’s famously passionate fanbase. Mitchell attended a handful of Comic-Cons with her castmates, but she says that the experience never stopped feeling surreal.

“I don’t think anyone really knew that anybody really liked the character for a while,” Mitchell says.

If she didn’t know then, she does now. Six years after the series’ end, Mitchell says that fans still stop her on the street to talk about Lost – well, Lost and The Santa Clause 2. Plenty of fans are eager to share their opinions on the divisive series finale, and Mitchell genuinely is thrilled by the commentary.

“I find if you engage, everybody behaves with such respect and joy,” says the actress.
 
For all those who DEFENDED the ending of LOST...

* I told ya'll that ending was complete and utter bullshit:smh:

Leaked Lost Document Reveals They Had No Plan for an Ending

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Does it make you feel any better than the creators of Lost never had any intention of telling you what the hell was up with that random polar bear?

Probably not: "No — we're not gonna tell where that polar bear came from, but we're all about answering the rest." The rest? Really? A recently leaked document from the show's beginnings reveals an entire structured layout for the show's start, middle and end. According to Damon Lindelof, the document is actually what the network wanted, and what they struggled against. /Film explains, having spoken to Lost's creator about it all: "This document outlines the version of Lost the network wanted, but one that Lindelof and J.J. Abrams didn’t." Basically: "ABC picked up the show, which never would have happened without this document. However, once those writers got to writing the actual series, many of these ideas got thrown away."
But, wait! What about the polar bear? Obviously a few of these outlined details did make the final cut, and it's fascinating to see what ABC imagined their golden child Lost was going to be:

True to our commitment to provide rational, real-world explanations for the seemingly bizarre, our castaways will make a series of discoveries in the first few episodes that indicate the "monster" may indeed have man-made origins which offers a variety of possible explanations illuminating its true nature. Perhaps the result of the experiments performed by the island's past inhabitants or simply a small part within an elaborate security system designed to protect yet undiscovered facilities, the beast is almost as scary when it's NOT there.


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Our idea is to build a jungle inside a soundstage. And in this patch of jungle, our characters will begin to build their own "mini" sets. Call it a primitive "Melrose Place."


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Our mandate is to give LOST the same treatment as a Michael Crichton novel. Every time we introduce an element of the fantastic, we approach it from a real place. If we do it right, the "paranormal" will always be coupled with a logical explanation to remind the audience that this is the real world.


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20 Secrets Behind Lost You Had No Idea About


In 2004, fans around the world sat down to begin the mind-boggling journey of the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 on ABC’s cult drama Lost.

With an incredible writing team that included Star Wars director J.J. Abrams, the mythos of the mysterious island and its inhabitants took over our lives for six seasons. The show maintained a strong viewership throughout its airing with both critics and audiences giving it rave reviews. Dedicated fans of the show, known as Lostaways or Losties, devoted hours of time developing theories and hypotheses to connect the show’s various mysteries.

Since its conclusion in 2010, the impact of the show can be felt in various other shows and movies, maintaining its influence on pop culture. To this day, fans still discuss the lingering mysteries of the island and its controversial ending.

Tucked away behind the smoke monsters, four-toed statues, and the Others lie the little-known secrets of the powerful drama. Not just the unknown trivia but the behind-the-scenes secrets of the cast, the crew, and the show’s production. While Lost may have intrigued audiences for over six years, the truth behind the successful show continues its famed legacy.

From little-known casting secrets to legal nightmares, here are the 20 Secrets Behind Lost You Had No Idea About.

20. THE SHOW WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED “NOWHERE”

The idea for Lost sprang to the mind of former head of ABC Lloyd Braun while on vacation in Hawaii. He pitched the show as “as parts ‘Cast Away,’ ‘Survivor’ and ‘Gilligan’s Island,’ with a ‘Lord of the Flies’ element.”

Intrigued by the idea, ABC gave the go-ahead for a draft to be created for the show in September 2003. Created by writer Jeffrey Lieber, the initial draft not only disappointed Braun but was even given a lousy title.

Though Braun had always envisioned the show as being called Lost, Lieber decided to change it to Nowhere. Braun rejected the script and reached out to Alias creator J.J. Abrams and showrunner Damon Lindelof.

Although Braun had full confidence in their abilities, his only demand was that his chosen show name would be restored.According to IMDB, “In one early version of the script, Boone was going to be Boone Carlyle V and would be referred to as “Five”. When they decided against this idea they did a “find and replace” function to change all the referenced to “Five” into ones for “Boone”.

This accidentally changed the dialogue when Jack and Kate first meet to him counting “One, two, three, four, Boone.” The incident was shared in the Season 1 DVD special features. If only that error had made it into the final show…
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11. WALT WAS WRITTEN OUT BECAUSE HE WAS TOO TALL


A constant issue for long-term tv shows comes with the use of child actors. Though many shows chose to select young adults as teenagers, some shows must use stars closer to the characters’ depicted ages.

In the show Lost, 11-year-old actor Malcolm David Kelley was chosen to play a 10-year-old. Although their ages did not vary greatly on paper, his real-life physical changes as a pre-teen became a problem. Over the course of the first season, the actor began growing noticeably taller, so much so that his character’s onscreen time and the plot had to be adjusted to work within the show’s slower timeline.

His character was eventually written out earlier than expected with appearances that coincided better with his taller stature (i.e. flash forwards and time skips). Over the course of the show, Kelley ended up growing ten inches taller.he explained that “also the makeup artists for ‘Lost’ actually use concealer on his lashes and under his eyes to try to tone down the natural darkness of his eye line.” One of the weirdest fan mysteries of Lost is finally solved.

1. TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS AND THE LOST DUI CURSE


Several stars from Lost found themselves in trouble for various traffic violations while living in Hawaii. Several stars were cited for speeding included Josh Holloway, Dominic Monaghan, Naveen Andrews, Ian Somerhalder, and Christian Bowman. Other lawbreakers included Harold Perrineau Jr. (no insurance) and Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje (no license).

However, the “urban legend” of the Lost DUI Curse became an indicator of when a character would be leaving the show. The legend was that when a cast member got caught for a DUI, their character was subsequently killed off the show. Victims of the alleged curse included Michelle Rodriguez (Ana Lucia) and Cynthia Watros (Libby). However, show producers have since stated that both actresses were killed off simply because their storylines were coming to an end. Daniel Dae Kim (Jin) was also “killed off” in Season 4 after his DUI in 2007. Just a coincidence, huh?
 
FUCK DAMON LINDENOFF. HE LIKE FUCKING WITH FOLKS WITH NO REASON AT ALL. FUCK HIM JJ , CARLTON CUSE. FUCK ALLLLL.
 
No, They Weren’t Dead the Whole Time
An oral history of Lost’s daring, divisive finale, our last truly communal broadcast TV experience.
By Jen Chaney@chaneyj
The Art of Ending Things
How great entertainment sticks the landing.
Photo-Illustration: by Vulture; Photo by Mario Perez/ABC
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When the Lost finale aired on May 23, 2010, it was a very big deal. It was also, quite possibly, the last big deal of its kind.
Born from an idea generated by then–ABC chairman Lloyd Braun, crafted into pilot form by co-creators J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof, then fleshed out over six seasons into a character-driven, mythologically rich, Emmy-winning existential adventure, the island-based drama had become one of the biggest pop-cultural obsessions in the world by the end of the aughts. Just one testament to what a big deal it was: When the White House signaled that the president might deliver his State of the Union on the same night that the premiere of the sixth and final season was scheduled to air, Lost fans went so ballistic online that Barack Obama’s team made sure to convey they would get out of Lost’s way.
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Because Lindelof and co-showrunner Carlton Cuse, along with ABC, announced their plans to end the series in the middle of the third season, and because the show’s mysteries were avidly dissected online like none had been before, the fixation on the final episode was extreme. ABC’s promos for “The End,” Lost’s last chapter, hyped it as “the most anticipated episode in television history.” That only sounded like a slight exaggeration.
The two-and-a-half-hour finale, which cost upwards of $15 million to make, wrapped up six seasons of relationship and time-jumping narrative development by having Jack Shephard (Matthew Fox) battle John Locke (Terry O’Quinn) — who at that point had become the human embodiment of the show’s famous Smoke Monster — in an attempt to save the island where the characters crash-landed, while revealing that its parallel, non-island timeline, dubbed the flash-sideways, was really a bardo where all the key figures from the show met to help usher Jack into the next realm. The show would culminate in the flash-sideways with Jack & Co. gathering in a church and, on the island, Jack dying in the jungle, while Vincent, the Labrador that belonged to young Walt (Malcolm David Kelley), lay down beside him.
When the finale aired, it sparked divided responses (understatement) from fans. Some loved the emotional way in which Jack’s journey and that of his fellow survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 came to a close. Others were extremely vocally angry about not getting more direct answers to the show’s many questions. Still others came away from it all convinced that the castaways had been dead the whole time. (They were not dead. They really weren’t.)

What was semi-clear at the time and is even clearer now is that the broadcast of the Lost finale would mark the end of something else: the truly communal broadcast television experience. Subsequent finales would be major events (see HBO’s Game of Thrones) and even draw larger audiences (2019’s final Big Bang Theory attracted 18 million viewers, compared to the 13.5 million who tuned in for the Lost farewell). But nothing else since has felt so massively anticipated and so widely consumed in real time the way that the end of Lost, the Smoke Monster Super Bowl, did in 2010.
Vulture did extensive interviews with writers, cast, and crew members, who reflected on the development of “The End,” the making of the still hotly debated episode, and the cultural conversation it continues to generate. Because, yes, of course, we had to go back.
The Beginnings of ‘The End’
Despite accusations from critics that Lindelof, Cuse, and the rest of the writers were just “making up” Lost as they went along, the seeds for certain elements and imagery that would appear in the finale started to be planted as early as season one. In an unprecedented move at the time, Lindelof and Cuse later laid the groundwork for the show’s conclusion by determining when it would end in the middle of the third season.
Carlton Cuse, co-showrunner, executive producer, and co-writer of “The End”: We went to ABC in season three and said, “We want to end the show.” I believe the first counteroffer was nine seasons. We were like, No, we can’t. But we needed to know [when we would end]. It was impossible to move forward without a clear sense of what the rest of the journey was. The best we could do was get six seasons. At least we were able to end the show on our own timetable. That was something that hadn’t been done before.
Liz Sarnoff, writer and executive producer: The first three seasons, we did so many episodes. I mean, we did like 22 to 25 a season. There wasn’t a lot of time to speculate on the future. It was more like, What are we shooting next week? But there were certain images I know that Damon always had [in mind for the last episode] in the beginning. Certainly one of them was Jack’s eye closing.
Damon Lindelof, co-creator, co-showrunner, executive producer; co-writer of “The End”: I just want to make this very clear and I want to make sure that it’s also in print: We’re in memoir territory. I’m giving you what my honest recollections are, but because we’re talking about memory, they are not to be trusted.
I believe as early as midway through the first season, when I was openly saying “This show needs to end” — as part of my, you know, screed — it was “Show opens with Jack’s eye opening, ends with Jack’s eye closing.” Once he’s dead, show is over. If it wasn’t season one, it was in the break between seasons one and season two. It was early.
Matthew Fox, getting prepped for Jack’s death. Photo: Mario Perez/ABC
Eddy Kitsis, writer and executive producer: I feel like we also had the Vincent component. [In the final sequence, Vincent, the dog that belonged to Walt, lies down next to Jack as he’s dying.] I remember thinking about that for years.
Lindelof: There were certain things that we were already guided by and locked in on. The first conversations about the character who ended up being the Man in Black were all synonymous with “What is the monster?” Those conversations were happening as early as that mini-camp [for the writers after season one].
The idea that the island was a cork, like literally stopping up hell — we were all Buffy fans, particularly in the season when Goddard and Fury were hanging around quite a bit. We did refer to the island as being a cork in the hellmouth. By the time Jacob explains that to Richard Alpert in the final season, that was an idea that was there for a very long time.
Josh Holloway, James “Sawyer” Ford: I remember one time in season one, I told Damon and Carlton, “You know what, the island moves. It’s like the Death Star.” And Damon got all weird with me and he was like, “Who’ve you been talking to?” I was like, “I haven’t talked to nobody. Pretend I never said anything.” And I walked away. So I quit my theorizing right there.
Lindelof: The idea that the island was moving was one of the crazy ideas that J.J. threw out while we were shooting the pilot. Certainly once we had the [writers] room together in season one, I remember having those conversations, because Carlton was pitching it in terms of, like, constellations or something like that. We all always loved the idea and wanted to keep it as a secret. When Josh mentioned it, I’m like, “Oh, okay. Someone is basically talking to him.”
Jimmy Kimmel, Lost super-fan and host of Jimmy Kimmel Live! Aloha to Lost, the post-finale special: Those motherfuckers, J.J. and Damon and Carlton, tried to do a terrible thing to me about, I don’t know, maybe somewhere in the second season. I was like, How does this end, what’s going on? I was constantly pestering them to know what was happening. They said, “Here’s what we’ll do. We will tell you how the series ends. We will write it down, and we’ll put it in an envelope. And then you can decide whether you want to open it or not.” I said, “I am not going to fall for your psychological torture,” because I know I’d wind up getting high and opening that thing at like two o’clock in the morning and then inside would be a note saying, Aha, we knew you couldn’t wait or something. To this day, they swear they were going to write the ending down, put it in the envelope, and leave it to me to decide whether I wanted to open it or not.
Jack Bender, director of “The End”: This was going into our finale season, and we were in London doing press. Damon and I went to the Tate Modern, and we decided to walk back [to our hotel]. He said, “Let me tell you the story of how we’re going to end the show.” So he proceeds to tell me the architecture of what’s going to be happening along the way, and he says, “Okay, now let me tell you about Locke.” We’ve gotten over the bridge, and we’re now walking along somewhere in London, heading back to the hotel. As he proceeds to tell me about Locke, I look up above me and I said, “Damon, stop.” And he said, “Why?” And I said, “Look up.” And we were in front of a pub called the Walkabout. I look at Damon and he looks at me and he goes, “Oh my God.” [The season-one episode that reveals Locke was in a wheelchair before landing on the island is called “Walkabout.”] I said, “I have to take a picture of you in front of it.” So I do that. Then he says, “Let me take one of you.” He takes the picture of me and in the picture, as he takes the picture, a man in a wheelchair wheels right by.
Lindelof: Yes, that is true.
The photos of Lindelof and Bender in front of the Walkabout, which Bender incorporated into a collage. (Images courtesy of Jack Bender).
Into the Writers Room
Over a two-week period in the spring of 2010, the Lost writing staff gathered, as a group and in individual writing sessions, to craft the final episode.
Cuse: When you make a show that goes on for six years, there’s sort of two parallel journeys that are occurring. There’s the one that’s happening onscreen, and then there’s the one happening offscreen as all the people who make the show get deeply bonded and connected to each other. It was even more intense with Lost because everybody realized that it was such a significant thing and would probably be a huge demarcation point in all of our careers.
Sarnoff: Our feelings about the finale were always, always, that it was going to have to be very emotional and character-based because we found when we gave answers to mysteries and stuff like that, the audience would normally reject them. Mystery shows like that are so tricky because nobody wants the mystery to end, but they want answers.
The level of difficulty was, I think, the hardest I’ll ever encounter.
I spent a disproportionate amount of time trying to figure out if there was a way to get Walt into the finale.— Damon Lindelof
Cuse: I remember very clearly just trying to stick to the same process that had gotten us to the 120th and 121st episode. I think it was really important that we tried to keep our focus on that process, which was, Let’s make a show that delights us. Let’s not try to anticipate this reaction or that reaction. Let’s make the finale that we ourselves want to see.
Lindelof: I spent a disproportionate amount of time trying to figure out if there was a way to get Walt into the finale, other than being in the church. And would it be weird for him to be in the church because he’s grown now? He looks so different than he did in the pilot, and everybody else in the church kind of looks like they did in season one.
Sarnoff: Damon would always say, “There’s questions that make you go, Ohhhh. And then there’s questions that make you go, Huh. You don’t want the Huh.” Particularly in the final scene of the finale, you don’t want people going, Who’s that kid?
Cuse: Malcolm [David Kelley] grew up so we had to figure out how to make that work in the context of our story. It was a conundrum trying to figure out how we could bring that character back, but it felt like a missing piece to not do that given what happened to him.
Lindelof: There was a lot of Walt worry and that led to us making this epilogue for the DVD called “The New Man in Charge,” in which we resolve the Walt of it all.
People don’t consider it part of the canon. I do, but the look on people’s faces when they’re like, “What about Walt?” and I’m like, “Oh, we did this thing, and it’s on the DVD” — they just look like they want to strangle me, so I get that.
Cuse: There was no way to answer all the open questions that existed across the prior 119 episodes of the show. In fact, an attempt to do that would just be didactic. We sort of tried a version of that with the episode that was a couple before the end, “Across the Sea,” which was this very mythological episode about the origins of Jacob and the Man in Black. That was sort of what answers look like. And I don’t think it was great.
Lindelof: I spend a lot of time really anxious about whether or not something was good or whether or not people were going to like it. But I don’t think that I was really thinking about what other people were going to think about the finale. I was thinking about what I felt about it, and I was like, “Oh, this is what I want to do.” We had been talking about this for a really long time, so it was pretty good vibes.
Sarnoff: It was one of the more emotional times I can ever remember in any writers’ room. I also got cancer in season four of the show, and it was an experience that brought us all very close. And that was the year of the writers’ strike and all this other stuff. So it had been an intense time in the last couple of seasons, and it was hard not to be aware of how much the show meant to us but also how much it meant to other people. Because the Lost fans were like no other fans I’ve ever experienced, and they were pissed the show was ending, but at the same time, they were so emotional about it.
The Lost crew, setting up for the sequence in the church. Photo: Mario Perez/ABC
Kitsis: At about nine o’clock one night, Damon’s AIM came on — it always had this weird punch sound — and he’s like, Are you up? I was like, Of course. He was like, I’m sending you and Adam [Horowitz] the final piece. And he sent us that Christian scene [with Jack in the church], the first draft, like literally right after he wrote it, just to see what we thought. There was this feeling of specialness because it’s like, we were all in on this secret together.
Adam Horowitz, writer and executive producer: I remember feeling, Wow, this is it. And it was beautiful.
Keeping the Secrets of Lost
Throughout the show’s run, the Lost team took steps to make sure spoilers didn’t leak. (Note: That did not always work!) But the details surrounding the finale were in such demand that they were guarded with extra intensity.
Holloway: We were all so anxious to get the last script because we were like, How are they going to get out of it? You know, we didn’t see how they were going to end the show. I was like, “Hey, I got a cabin up in the mountains of Colorado if you need to hide from people trying to kill you if you don’t do the ending right.” You know, we were joking with Damon and Carlton. They’re like, “Okay, we might take you up on that.”
Michael Emerson (Benjamin Linus): That last script was a high-security script. When you got pages, which were usually the day you worked, they were printed on red paper, which is unreproducible. This was especially high stakes. This could not get out into the world.
Maggie Grace (Shannon Rutherford): They really enjoyed the spy games of getting people scripts. It was early then, before Marvel took it to another level of paranoia.
Jorge Garcia (Hugo “Hurley” Reyes): The scripts got more and more secretive as the series progressed. I had to even purchase a special mailbox that had a lock on it so that they would be able to leave the scripts for me. Otherwise, they wouldn’t be able to deliver a script unless I was home. We just kinda strapped it to a bench in front of my house. If someone really wanted, they could easily just steal the whole mailbox.
Carlton Cuse having a word with Henry Ian Cusick on the set. Photo: Mario Perez/ABC
Yunjin Kim (Sun): I got the script, but it was thinner than I expected. A lot of the scenes that I was not involved in were missing. But it was like that the last five or six episodes. In season six, we had a lot of pages missing. The whole exchange between Jack and his father, Christian Shepherd, I definitely did not get those pages.
Emerson: My whole gig at Lost was kind of operating in the dark. I got comfortable with that. So the finale, because we didn’t get a complete script, it was a lot of guessing — a lot of wondering how things got put together, what they would mean, what they would look like.
Henry Ian Cusick (Desmond):
I had phoned Damon and Carlton before about certain things, but never to say, “What is going on?” And here I said, “I need to know what’s going on with my character.” They said, “We don’t want to tell you the ending. Are you trying to get the ending out of us?” I was like, “No, I just need to do my job. I don’t really know what’s going on.”
I couldn’t understand what I was doing [in the flash-sideways]. Why did I want to get everyone back to the church? Why was I reawakening everyone, what was my objective? At the end I got there. I knew what was happening as we were filming it.
Cuse: We were really concerned about anybody figuring out what was going to be happening in the big church scene. So [during production] we hired two extras that looked like Sun and Jin and we put them in wedding clothes and we put them outside the church. And we were taking them in and out in a way that any paparazzi or people that were trying to figure out what’s going on would think that we were staging Sun and Jin’s wedding.
Kim: What? No, no, no. There was no double me in a wedding dress. No way.
Garcia: I believe they had a woman who was like a Sun double dress up in a wedding dress and they would shuttle her periodically [to set]. I never met her. I remember seeing a woman in her wedding dress and them often referring to that scene as Sun’s wedding, even though we knew that wasn’t anything that was going to go on in it.
Kim: Wow. I had no idea that was happening. They didn’t tell us anything we didn’t need to know.
Filming ‘The End’
Illustration: by James Clapham
Production of the Lost finale, which took place in March and April 2010, was an emotional experience for members of the cast and crew, who knew it would be their last time shooting in Hawaii. The work could be physically taxing, daunting, and occasionally a little scary. (There was a bit of a mix-up involving a knife.)
Holloway: I remember the [first] day we came to work, we were working on the beach, all the chairs around, and we all looked at each other, smiling. “Well, they did it, they frickin’ did it. It’s pretty good. What do you think?” Some loved it. Some didn’t love it, but we all thought it was a good script and we were excited to do it.
Cusick: I think people were happy that it was ending. I was one of the few that was like, We could do another season. There’s a lot more story to be told here.
Terry O’Quinn (John Locke): It was physically stressful because you know, I’m not a kid. I think at that time I was 58. I remember Matthew [Fox] running down the hill and diving at me and I thought, This is going to leave a mark.
Holloway: Didn’t me and Evy [Evangeline Lily] jump off a cliff?
[Note: Yes. Yes, they did.]

Holloway: I remember how crazy our stunt guy was. I loved him. He was my stunt guy all those years and the stunt coordinator at that point: Mike Trisler, ex-fricking Special Forces guy. So he’s like, “Okay, let’s do this. I’m going to die.” I’m like, “Don’t die, bro. It’s like 70 feet high. Just jump, you know?” He’s like, “No, it’s cool. It’s cool if I die.” You’re fucking crazy! And he went ahead, 70 feet off that cliff. They have plaques on that cliff of the people who have died. So it’s pretty major. I remember being on top of that thing and doing the fake run-up, like you’re going to do it. You’ve got to get pretty close to the edge. Oh, shit. That was scary.
Wet Josh Holloway. That’s it. That’s the caption. Photo: Mario Perez/ABC
Bender: We were really up there [on that cliff]. The actors were really up there. On any set of mine, it’s always safety first. It just is. I think our line producer was really reluctant to have a shoot up there and for all the right reasons. Because it was coming off of the ocean and the waves were breaking, the spray was up there at times, which made it visually fabulous, but also all the more dangerous. So we mapped out the action, totally safe and broke down all the shots.
But there was one moment in that sequence which I will never forget as an executive producer, as a director, and as a human being.
O’Quinn: There was a big fight [between Locke and Jack] with knives and all that kind of stuff.
Bender: We had a fake knife and a real knife. The real knife, like whenever you’re doing a movie, is dulled down. But it is a real blade so it won’t wobble, because all rubber blades do that a little bit. Terry was working with a real knife and the fake knife. We had shot a number of shots in the sequence and were probably getting toward the end of the shoot. Terry was well rehearsed in when he would have the real knife in his hand, even though it was dull, and when he would drop it and right next to him, an inch away was the fake knife.
O’Quinn: We were wrestling and wrestling and the fire hoses were going and there was water and at one point, I had the real knife out. [Matthew] saw me pull it out and then we wrestled with it.
Bender: We were doing this switch with the blade and Terry picked up the wrong one.
O’Quinn: I plunged it into Matthew’s side. Well, Matthew had a pad [under his shirt] that was probably about the size of your extended palm, where I’m supposed to stab him. It was just to protect him from where I was supposed to stab him. I don’t think I held my hand out to wait for the exchange because we were caught up in the action. So I stabbed him with a real knife.
Bender: The scene ended with Matt rolling off and next thing I know these guys are fucking laughing. I’m going, what’s going on? Terry goes, “I fucked up.” I went, “Oh my God.”
“So I stabbed him with a real knife.” —Terry O’Quinn Photo: Mario Perez/ABC
O’Quinn: Fortunately, I stabbed him where I was supposed to, so it didn’t pierce his pad. I don’t think any harm was done. I realized when I tried to stab him and [the blade didn’t retract], I said, “Oh, this is not the right one.” But generally speaking, when you use a knife in a fight like that, the real knife, you would have difficulty cutting butter with it. They won’t give you a dangerous knife to wrestle with.
Emerson: I chiefly remember being injured [during production of the finale]. I had torn the meniscus in my left knee on-set. We were shooting a scene, it must have been maybe three or four episodes before the finale. I was just sitting, waiting for the next camera shot, and somebody said, “Okay, camera’s up, let’s get going.” And I was sitting cross-legged, and I just, like a young man would, heaved myself up out of that position, but it was more than my knee could take and I heard something snap.
There’s a scene [in the finale] where Hurley and I meet at a rocky stream, and I thought “Oh my God, how am I going to manage walking on these slippery rocks with a bad leg and what happens if I go down” and all of that. That was a bit of a preoccupation with me, so I may not have been as spiritually present as I would have wished.
While previous seasons of Lost included regular flashbacks and, later, flash-forwards, the sixth season featured what were called flash-sideways: glimpses of the characters in a parallel universe where Oceanic 815 had never crashed. In “The End,” the flash-sideways realm was revealed to be, in Lindelof’s words, a bardo where several characters’ memories of their lives on the island were triggered by touch or moments that echoed things that happened post-crash. One of the more emotional trigger moments involved Lost power couple Sawyer and Juliet realizing that they had known each other in another life on the island.
Photo: ABC
Lindelof: From a writerly standpoint, it’s impossible for me to convey to you in words what the rules of the sideways were, other than to say we called it a bardo in the writers’ room, which was largely based on a construct in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, which is this idea that when you die, you experience an afterlife where you do not know that you are dead, and the entire purpose of that afterlife is for you to come to the awareness that you have died.
I was able to give the show so much rope in the sideways because it was literally the place that they made together so that they could find each other. Contrivance and Dickensian coincidence, which is the stuff that we loved so much in the show, was really able to allow its freak flag to fly in that material.
Holloway: I remember going, “Man, is this going to be cheesy?” Like, I’m getting a Coca-Cola and I touch her hand and I have to do this thing where I have this flash of memory. We were all thinking, Oh man, I wonder if it’s going to work. And when they did it, it was awesome, I thought.
Lindelof: We made sure that people understood that in the ever-after Sawyer and Juliet were going to be together. Those things were musts, they needed to be serviced. And hopefully the good side of fan service, where the fans really want you to listen to them.

Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet Burke): I remember [while shooting that scene] the air conditioning was rattling like crazy and it was driving sound crazy and then we were all talking about it. Then I just looked at Josh and the characters were just there and it was — I just remember thinking, Oh yeah, here we are.
Holloway: Elizabeth was so sweet, is so sweet, as a person. Like, you can’t shake her. I tried to get her mad. I’d just be an asshole sometimes, like being Sawyer-ish on set. She would just be like, “Oh, Josh.”
Mitchell: Jack was filming that scene and I ended up so grateful he understood that we needed it to just go until [the right emotion] was there and I think that’s what we did.
The most emotional scene in the episode comes toward the end, when Jack arrives at the church and is told by his father that he’s dead. He then enters the sanctuary of the church and finds everyone he knew on the island, exactly as he remembers last seeing them. This reunion intercuts between shots of Jack, having saved the island, stumbling to his final resting place in the jungle.
Barry Jossen, former head of ABC Studios: I woke up the next morning [after reading the script] and there were a few thoughts about what they had that really concerned me so much that I couldn’t let it go.
So I called them [in Hawaii]. I think first I called Carlton. It was a good dialogue, it was a good back and forth. Carlton is an intellectual processor, so he kind of worked his way through, he asked questions. “Let me talk to Damon,” he said. Thirty minutes later, Damon called me back.
We had our back and forth, and my recollection is whatever was bugging me was the final moment in the conversation between Jack and his father. Probably what I was looking for in that moment was maybe more answers and maybe more clarity. I think that was what might have been playing out. I do remember what Damon said to me: “I’m going to start crying. You’re really upsetting me.” “What do you mean?” “Because I’m trying to figure out what you need or what you’re wanting or what you’re saying, and I think it makes sense. I’m just so” — I don’t remember what his exact expression was — “I am just so ready for it to move forward.”
They’re literally at their hotels getting ready to go to this set and shoot the final moments of the show. And I’m on the phone saying some version of, “Yeah, but.”
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Lindelof: Barry’s recollection seems to be consistent with my own. The one thing I cannot remember is what dialogue was added, if any, to satisfy his note. I know that “This was the place you made together to find each other” was already there. It’s possible that the added dialogue was Jack asking for clarity on what was real and Christian saying, “It was all real, it all happened,” but as I no longer have access to the multiple drafts and their respective dates, I honestly couldn’t tell you.
I remember being very emotional and wanting it to be over.
Jossen: We had our conversation and he said, “Okay, let me think about it. I get it. I know what to do.” There’s so much brilliance in Carlton, there’s so much brilliance in Damon. They went and did their work. And I mean, I loved it.
Lindelof: There’s stuff that makes me grimace a bit. Like it’s not quite a regret, but I think that if we didn’t have that damn stained-glass window, we would’ve gotten a full letter grade higher on the finale. The literalness of the window — that’s a part that made me grit my teeth a little bit and go like, God, you know, why? We really thought that was a good idea at the time, so we have to forgive ourselves. But it’s just a bridge too far.
If we didn’t have that damn stained-glass window, we would’ve gotten a full letter grade higher on the finale.— Damon Lindelof
Bender: My idea was to keep all the actors kind of away from each other until we got in the room in the church on the set. Because it would be so great not to have them see each other until they’re there, and yet I knew that couldn’t happen given wardrobe and hair and people running into each other and you know, the fact that people are people.
Garcia: I remember there being so many cast chairs of basically everyone who’s ever been [on the show] almost, just all lined up in two rows with everybody’s name on their backs.
Lindelof: Hanging out at craft services, I really remember regretting that Harold [Perrineau] was not there in the church. And I remember why we made that decision, because for Michael to be there, it would also mean that Walt would have to be there. And then Cynthia Watros was getting an iced tea at craft services. And I was like, Libby is in the church? That’s no dig on Cynthia. We wanted Libby there because Hurley wanted Libby there. I just remember it being very weird in addition to being very emotional.
O’Quinn: That was wonderful. It was kind of like a class reunion and graduation and a family reunion, sort of all at the same time.
A pause for applause while filming the scene in the church. Photo: Mario Perez/ABC
Bender: I got four cameras, and I told the camera operators, who are brilliant, “I just want you to capture these moments, and I want you to follow the characters around, wider shots, tighter shots, and pretend we’re doing a documentary on all of these actors coming back together again and just shoot it all.” A lot of it was just spontaneous. Then I’d say to Jorge, “Go over and pick up Matt and give him a bear hug.” And it was fabulous. It’s everybody’s fantasy of what happens when we die. That you’re with the people you’ve lived with and you love and have argued with and it’s a room full of forgiveness.
Emilie De Ravin, Claire Littleton: It was really art imitating life or life imitating art in a sense because we’d just be off wandering around at night, chatting, laughing, catching up, hanging out around the trailers, and then go into the church and kind of do the same thing. Not exactly, but it was a really special evening
Grace: I think we had a kind of odd fake baby for Emilie de Ravin’s baby. So we were goofing around with whose baby that was and taking a lot of pictures of the baby. It was a kind of creepy doll. I think we all might have had a glass of wine later that night.
LIVE TOGETHER, PARTY TOGETHER
A mini oral history of the Lost wrap party


Photo: Mario Perez/ABC
An epic finale deserves an epic party, and that’s precisely what Evangeline Lilly gave her costars. Click here to read cast and creators reminisce about the event, including the unexpected guest who attended and wound up performing onstage.

Holloway: We also got drunk, I think, while we did it. A little bit, you know, because we’re all celebrating. That was the last scene that we all did together. So we were slipping over to each other’s trailer and having a glass of wine, going back in and doing some more scene. It was great.
Cusick: I brought my family — my wife and my children were there. I remember people playing the guitar and singing. Somebody was singing “Hallelujah.” I don’t know who it was. It could have been Terry.
O’Quinn: “Hallelujah” was in my repertoire right around that time. I always took the guitar to the set there because you could always go off to the side, and Naveen [Andrews, who played Sayid] always liked to play it.
De Ravin: Daniel [Dae Kim] actually posted a video recently, I think it was on his Instagram and I reposted it. It brought back so many memories. I’m sitting next to Maggie and swaying back and forth. Oh, it’s so sweet. That wasn’t just, “Oh, it’s the finale and the last scene.” The entire run of the show, that’s kind of the vibe. It was sitting in camping chairs on the beach at three in the morning with fires — because we had them for set — sitting by the “fake but real” fire, singing. Just that camaraderie of sun-burnt, mosquito-bitten friends on the beach just singing and chilling out and really trying to embrace how lucky we were to be able to film in such a beautiful place. This was our job, and we all felt very lucky.
Post-Production
Lost episodes usually came together on tight deadlines, and “The End” was no exception. Editors began to work overtime on the episode, both while production was still in progress and after it was completed, and Michael Giacchino composed and oversaw the recording of its score.
Michael Giacchino, flanked by Cuse and Lindelof, while recording the finale score. Photo: Carlton Cuse
Cuse: I think we had eight days in total to edit a two-hour series finale. And then the show had to march through all of the various other bits of postproduction, which were elaborate, including sound mixing, visual effects, music. I mean everything was crazy.
Ra’uf Glasgow, producer who supervised postproduction: The last two months of the show was really seven days a week, either starting on editorial or then moving into mixing and the other aspects of postproduction.
Michael Giacchino, score composer: I would generally have three days [to compose] and orchestrate [the music] and then we’d record it on the fourth day. It was not a lot of time, and it was a two-part finale, so there was a lot to do. And they were extra-long episodes, so there was more music than normal.
Mark Goldman, editor: All the editors, as I remember, had different times where at some point we cried watching it. I was working on the scene with Jack and his dad in the sideways where Jack finds out that he’s died. We had a screening of the show and Damon and I went back to my room to review that scene. We started just talking about the theme of fathers and dying and things like that. Then I was like, “All right, well, let me do these notes for you. Give me like a half-hour.” He’s like, “Okay.” And he hops out. I turn around and I start cutting and about 30 seconds later, I suddenly burst into tears. One of the other editors was screening for network execs and at the end of it everybody, including the editor, was sitting there crying.
Giacchino: I never read any of the scripts and then coming to the finale, I certainly didn’t read that. They were also very protective of everything in general anyway. Not that I couldn’t have gotten them if I wanted to, but it just worked better.
Jossen: There were a lot of tears in the editing room that day when we all watched it for the first time together. A lot of tears. I mean, Stephen Stemel [one of the other editors] — literally two-thirds of the way in, the most significant sound in the room was either him reaching to his Kleenex box for another Kleenex or just the sound of him sniffling.
Giacchino: What I would do is start at the beginning of the episode and work my way through it. That way I was reacting to watching it and whatever I was experiencing as I watched it, that was then put into the music. I felt like that was a better experience for the audience, to feel that it’s more spontaneous. You’re literally getting my reaction, my emotion, that I had at the moment of seeing that for the first time.
Goldman: The only time [Ra’uf] left [the mix stage] was when his wife gave birth to a baby boy. That is literally true. In the middle of the finale, Ra’uf’s wife’s water burst.
Glasgow: I drove home and got home in time for him to be born. He was born at home. I slept a few hours and came a couple hours late to the mix stage, but went straight back to the mix stage the next morning.
Goldman: What’s cool is that baby supplied the crying for when Claire gives birth in the sideways.
Glasgow: It wasn’t my son. It was my daughter. She was, I want to say 2 or 3. Those are the tricks you end up doing. You go, “Oh, we need this thing and we don’t have it.” Then it’s sort of like, “Oh, come over here and cry into my iPhone.”
The Finale Coda, a.k.a. They Weren’t Dead the Whole Time
When the finale aired, some viewers came away thinking that, from the very beginning of the series, the survivors of Oceanic 815 had actually been dead. A post-credits sequence may have inadvertently contributed to that impression, but the spread of this disinformation ends now.
But what does it mean?? (Answer: Nothing, really.)
Cuse: I only really have one regret about the whole journey of Lost and that was at the very, very end. Barry Jossen, he called Damon and me and he said, “You know, I’m worried that we’re going to come out of this incredibly emotional ending of this show and then slam into a Proctor & Gamble commercial and that isn’t going to be good. Is there any way to soften that or ameliorate that? Is there any footage that exists that we could put at the end to just kind of ease the audience out of the show and into commercials?”
Jossen: He calls me back at some point: “I talked to Damon. We think it’s a really cool idea. It’s the wreckage of the plane and the different props and the beach and the water and it’s all beautiful. And we’ve always loved the photos and I’ve always thought like, Wow, wouldn’t it be cool to find something to do with that? So what we find is maybe what we’ll do is we’ll cut a montage of these photos and put them at the end of the episode.”
Cuse: The only thing that we had or we could find was, sometime during the first season, the winter was coming and all of the pieces of the airplane had to get moved off the beach because in Hawaii, in the winter, the North Shore of Oahu, the whole geography changes. Huge waves come in and the beaches erode away. It was an environmental hazard. So before all the pieces of the Oceanic plane were moved off the beach, a unit went out and filmed them.
So we put that footage at the end of the show and I think that the problem was that the audience was so accustomed on Lost to the idea that everything had meaning and purpose and intentionality. So they read into that footage at the end that, you know, they were dead. That was not the intention. The intention was just to create a narrative pause. But it was too portentous. It took on another meaning. And that meaning I think, distorted our intentions and helped create that misperception.
Garcia: I thought that was a nice bit to decompress at the end of it. Then I found out the next day how people started interpreting it as a thing and I was like, Oh, okay. And people still say it. People still talk about it the same way.
Lindelof: It never even occurred to us that looking at the wreckage of the plane on the beach over the end titles would be perceived as some sort of massive reveal in the way that the very French cinema, like in Caché, when the end titles are rolling, that’s when they give you the big “Oh my God” moment.
I still do kind of really think it was more [a purgatory thing]. To me, that’s what makes more sense. But I don’t know, because they always said ‘No, it’s not purgatory.’— Josh Holloway
Cuse: I think we could have done some things to make it clear that that wasn’t what you were supposed to take away. But one of the big intentions of the show was intentional ambiguity and giving people the opportunity to digest and interpret Lost as they want to if they wanted to. And at some level, you know, you can’t have it both ways.
Holloway: I’m still confused. I’ll be honest with you. I think that’s one theory. We could have all been dead. Or we could have been in like this purgatory thing. I always thought that, and still do kind of really think it was more that. To me, that’s what makes more sense. Then they kind of sidestepped it with the parallel life at the end. But I don’t know, because they always said, “No, it’s not purgatory.”
Emerson: I don’t think I could have explained the ending to someone at the moment [when I watched it]. But I must have watched it again later. And then it began to fall into place for me, and I began to be able to describe what I thought it was or what it meant in a more effective way. And then I grew happier and happier with the ending over time.
Sarnoff: That [coda] didn’t help things. Also I think a lot of people had been saying that all along and they wanted to be right. You know what I mean? It’s like if you have a theory and you can make it work based on the evidence of ABC doing that and the way we told the story, I think you’re going to go for it.
Jossen: There were always Easter eggs. So now when we’re giving them the imagery in a way that they’ve never seen it before, it would make sense that the super-fans would now want to give it meaning and they thought it was intended for them to do so. This is of course perspective because we were inside the making of the show and all the super-fans were inside the experience of watching it.
Lindelof: Whether you like the finale or whether you don’t like the finale, that doesn’t really bug me too much. But that idea — they were dead the whole time — it negates the whole show, it negates the whole point of the show. I’ve come to believe over time — whether I’m right or I’m wrong, this is where I find solace — that the people who really think they were dead the whole time did not watch the final season of the show, they just watched the finale. And many of them checked out on the show around season three. I found that if someone said to me, “Were they dead the whole time?” and I asked them, “Do you know who Lapidus or Faraday are?” they could not answer those questions. Lapidus and Faraday are not characters who just pop in in season six; they were major characters who featured very prominently in what I would call the third act of the show. Again, this is not provable data. There are probably people out there who will say “I’ve watched every single episode, and I believe they were dead the whole time.” I guess I would say, “Let’s debate. You be Phyllis Schlafly and I’ll be Bella [Abzug] and let’s dance.”
Braun: When you have a show that has exploded the way Lost did and gets into the Zeitgeist the way Lost did and is beloved the way Lost was, it’s almost impossible to end a show like that and please everybody. I’m telling you, it’s an impossible task.
Bender: The thing that I loved about the finale and we were crucified for and still occasionally are is that ultimately the show Lost was not some Marvel-esque, super-sci-fi ending. What I’m most proud of, among the many things about the show, is it was ultimately about how we live our lives, who we live them with and how we die.
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O’Quinn: All you heard was the negative. I heard plenty of that, but I didn’t take it personally. I often thought in the course of the making of the show, if you don’t get it, you’re just not paying attention or it’s just not your cup of tea. It was written well enough that the whole thing, if you’d simply watched and paid attention, you would understand what they were trying to say. Or at least come to some conclusions yourself.
I know that the dissatisfaction with the end of a show is common. Even I was dissatisfied with Game of Thrones. I thought that seemed like they kind of hurried out the door, they threw their clothes on and they were gone. But I wanted to write them a letter and say, “Welcome to the club.”
Cusick: The show is not about the ending. The show is the entirety of the six seasons that you had and trying to remember all the emotions that you had when you couldn’t wait to find out what was in the hatch. That was the show. It was a time when there was no binge-watching, so you had to wait until next week, which is infuriating, you know? And yet so delicious.
Kimmel: The idea that people would put so much weight on what happened at the end is missing the point. The point of that show was the fun and the mystery and trying to figure out what was going on. And maybe that’s still part of the fun, that we still haven’t exactly figured out what was going on.
It really was the most interactive show, I think, ever. Not since the Bible have so many scholars worked so hard to interpret what was written.
Holloway: I can’t wait until my daughter gets to the right age so I can watch it with her. She keeps trying to watch it with me, but my wife is such a stickler with that. Like, “No, it’s not appropriate.” So I’m going to sneak in and watch it with her.
Garcia: I ran into Damon at an airport [last] … March? I was on my way to Atlanta to go do an episode of MacGyver. It was right when we started getting word that this apocalypse was starting. I was talking to him and his wife and then he waved his son over, who is so grown now. [Damon’s] like, “He just started watching it.” His son was great, so enthusiastic. He recognized me and he got real excited to come and meet me. I was like, Oh, that’s cool. His son’s going to be a fan. That’s awesome.
 
The Finale Coda, a.k.a. They Weren’t Dead the Whole Time
When the finale aired, some viewers came away thinking that, from the very beginning of the series, the survivors of Oceanic 815 had actually been dead. A post-credits sequence may have inadvertently contributed to that impression, but the spread of this disinformation ends now.


But what does it mean?? (Answer: Nothing, really.)
Cuse: I only really have one regret about the whole journey of Lost and that was at the very, very end. Barry Jossen, he called Damon and me and he said, “You know, I’m worried that we’re going to come out of this incredibly emotional ending of this show and then slam into a Proctor & Gamble commercial and that isn’t going to be good. Is there any way to soften that or ameliorate that? Is there any footage that exists that we could put at the end to just kind of ease the audience out of the show and into commercials?”

Jossen: He calls me back at some point: “I talked to Damon. We think it’s a really cool idea. It’s the wreckage of the plane and the different props and the beach and the water and it’s all beautiful. And we’ve always loved the photos and I’ve always thought like, Wow, wouldn’t it be cool to find something to do with that? So what we find is maybe what we’ll do is we’ll cut a montage of these photos and put them at the end of the episode.”

Cuse: The only thing that we had or we could find was, sometime during the first season, the winter was coming and all of the pieces of the airplane had to get moved off the beach because in Hawaii, in the winter, the North Shore of Oahu, the whole geography changes. Huge waves come in and the beaches erode away. It was an environmental hazard. So before all the pieces of the Oceanic plane were moved off the beach, a unit went out and filmed them.

So we put that footage at the end of the show and I think that the problem was that the audience was so accustomed on Lost to the idea that everything had meaning and purpose and intentionality. So they read into that footage at the end that, you know, they were dead. That was not the intention. The intention was just to create a narrative pause. But it was too portentous. It took on another meaning. And that meaning I think, distorted our intentions and helped create that misperception.

Garcia: I thought that was a nice bit to decompress at the end of it. Then I found out the next day how people started interpreting it as a thing and I was like, Oh, okay. And people still say it. People still talk about it the same way.

Lindelof: It never even occurred to us that looking at the wreckage of the plane on the beach over the end titles would be perceived as some sort of massive reveal in the way that the very French cinema, like in Caché, when the end titles are rolling, that’s when they give you the big “Oh my God” moment.

I still do kind of really think it was more [a purgatory thing]. To me, that’s what makes more sense. But I don’t know, because they always said ‘No, it’s not purgatory.’— Josh Holloway
Cuse: I think we could have done some things to make it clear that that wasn’t what you were supposed to take away. But one of the big intentions of the show was intentional ambiguity and giving people the opportunity to digest and interpret Lost as they want to if they wanted to. And at some level, you know, you can’t have it both ways.

Holloway: I’m still confused. I’ll be honest with you. I think that’s one theory. We could have all been dead. Or we could have been in like this purgatory thing. I always thought that, and still do kind of really think it was more that. To me, that’s what makes more sense. Then they kind of sidestepped it with the parallel life at the end. But I don’t know, because they always said, “No, it’s not purgatory.”

Emerson: I don’t think I could have explained the ending to someone at the moment [when I watched it]. But I must have watched it again later. And then it began to fall into place for me, and I began to be able to describe what I thought it was or what it meant in a more effective way. And then I grew happier and happier with the ending over time.

Sarnoff: That [coda] didn’t help things. Also I think a lot of people had been saying that all along and they wanted to be right. You know what I mean? It’s like if you have a theory and you can make it work based on the evidence of ABC doing that and the way we told the story, I think you’re going to go for it.

Jossen: There were always Easter eggs. So now when we’re giving them the imagery in a way that they’ve never seen it before, it would make sense that the super-fans would now want to give it meaning and they thought it was intended for them to do so. This is of course perspective because we were inside the making of the show and all the super-fans were inside the experience of watching it.

Lindelof: Whether you like the finale or whether you don’t like the finale, that doesn’t really bug me too much. But that idea — they were dead the whole time — it negates the whole show, it negates the whole point of the show. I’ve come to believe over time — whether I’m right or I’m wrong, this is where I find solace — that the people who really think they were dead the whole time did not watch the final season of the show, they just watched the finale. And many of them checked out on the show around season three. I found that if someone said to me, “Were they dead the whole time?” and I asked them, “Do you know who Lapidus or Faraday are?” they could not answer those questions. Lapidus and Faraday are not characters who just pop in in season six; they were major characters who featured very prominently in what I would call the third act of the show. Again, this is not provable data. There are probably people out there who will say “I’ve watched every single episode, and I believe they were dead the whole time.” I guess I would say, “Let’s debate. You be Phyllis Schlafly and I’ll be Bella [Abzug] and let’s dance.”

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Braun: When you have a show that has exploded the way Lost did and gets into the Zeitgeist the way Lost did and is beloved the way Lost was, it’s almost impossible to end a show like that and please everybody. I’m telling you, it’s an impossible task.

Bender: The thing that I loved about the finale and we were crucified for and still occasionally are is that ultimately the show Lost was not some Marvel-esque, super-sci-fi ending. What I’m most proud of, among the many things about the show, is it was ultimately about how we live our lives, who we live them with and how we die.



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O’Quinn: All you heard was the negative. I heard plenty of that, but I didn’t take it personally. I often thought in the course of the making of the show, if you don’t get it, you’re just not paying attention or it’s just not your cup of tea. It was written well enough that the whole thing, if you’d simply watched and paid attention, you would understand what they were trying to say. Or at least come to some conclusions yourself.

I know that the dissatisfaction with the end of a show is common. Even I was dissatisfied with Game of Thrones. I thought that seemed like they kind of hurried out the door, they threw their clothes on and they were gone. But I wanted to write them a letter and say, “Welcome to the club.”

Cusick: The show is not about the ending. The show is the entirety of the six seasons that you had and trying to remember all the emotions that you had when you couldn’t wait to find out what was in the hatch. That was the show. It was a time when there was no binge-watching, so you had to wait until next week, which is infuriating, you know? And yet so delicious.

Kimmel: The idea that people would put so much weight on what happened at the end is missing the point. The point of that show was the fun and the mystery and trying to figure out what was going on. And maybe that’s still part of the fun, that we still haven’t exactly figured out what was going on.

It really was the most interactive show, I think, ever. Not since the Bible have so many scholars worked so hard to interpret what was written.

Holloway: I can’t wait until my daughter gets to the right age so I can watch it with her. She keeps trying to watch it with me, but my wife is such a stickler with that. Like, “No, it’s not appropriate.” So I’m going to sneak in and watch it with her.

Garcia: I ran into Damon at an airport [last] … March? I was on my way to Atlanta to go do an episode of MacGyver. It was right when we started getting word that this apocalypse was starting. I was talking to him and his wife and then he waved his son over, who is so grown now. [Damon’s] like, “He just started watching it.” His son was great, so enthusiastic. He recognized me and he got real excited to come and meet me. I was like, Oh, that’s cool. His son’s going to be a fan. That’s awesome.
 
They knew they screwed up and the show mainly ended due to ratings tanking.

When they moved the story forward with them being off the island, they should have not gone that route.

The easiest thing would have explained the island to the audience fully, but keep the characters clueless on what was going on.

The series could have ended with them being stuck on that island in a constant and infinite time loop traveling thru time and space picking up more folks caught up in the energy pull of the island. It would have tied in perfectly with the “Original” islanders they met I believe in the 2nd season that was fucking with them.

Then they could have brought on a new limited series focused on DHARMA on what brought them to the island. The series could have focused on that White dude that looked like Jerry Garcia that we always saw in those DHARMA training films. They explained the Asian dude, but I don’t recall them explaining who he was.

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Jossen: He calls me back at some point: “I talked to Damon. We think it’s a really cool idea. It’s the wreckage of the plane and the different props and the beach and the water and it’s all beautiful. And we’ve always loved the photos and I’ve always thought like, Wow, wouldn’t it be cool to find something to do with that? So what we find is maybe what we’ll do is we’ll cut a montage of these photos and put them at the end of the episode.”

Cuse: The only thing that we had or we could find was, sometime during the first season, the winter was coming and all of the pieces of the airplane had to get moved off the beach because in Hawaii, in the winter, the North Shore of Oahu, the whole geography changes. Huge waves come in and the beaches erode away. It was an environmental hazard. So before all the pieces of the Oceanic plane were moved off the beach, a unit went out and filmed them.

So we put that footage at the end of the show and I think that the problem was that the audience was so accustomed on Lost to the idea that everything had meaning and purpose and intentionality. So they read into that footage at the end that, you know, they were dead. That was not the intention. The intention was just to create a narrative pause. But it was too portentous. It took on another meaning. And that meaning I think, distorted our intentions and helped create that misperception.
See they should've just showed a black screen and ending credits.. cause the first thing i thought when they showed that plane wreckage and it was quiet,i `was like"So they all WERE dead from jump!"
 

Lost: Flash Sideways Explained (& How They Led To Season 6’s Big Twist)
Lost's transition from flashbacks and flashforwards to "flash-sideways" helped create a new tv trope and hinted at the biggest season six twist.

BY DANA MELEPUBLISHED 5 HOURS AGO
In its sixth and final season, ABC's Lost shifted from its flashbacks and flashforwards formula to introduce a new device that hinted at the show's biggest twist yet: the flash-sideways. Lost was a groundbreaking series with a devoted following and blockbuster viewing figures. It featured an ensemble cast of characters trapped on a mysterious island after a plane crash left them presumed dead. However, beyond this central story, the series became notorious for its varied and complex narrative techniques, including the unorthodox flash-sideways.

Much of the mystery of the show centered around what the island truly was, why the passengers of Oceanic Flight 815 were drawn there, and whether escape was truly possible – even after some of the characters made it back home, each was fated to return, spawning the popular fan theory that the Lost island was purgatory. Lost used flashbacks from the first episode to inform the audience about how the characters' lives before the crash influenced their current situation, focusing on one character per episode, and weaving together a deeper understanding of the full ensemble over the course of entire seasons and the series as a whole. At the end of the season three finale, Lost introduced the flashforward when protagonist Jack Shepard was shown off the island, insisting to fellow survivor Kate Austen that they had to go back. The flashforwards juxtaposed the survivors' desperate escape attempts with their lives after leaving the island as they slowly realized their time on the island wasn't over.



The flashes sideways were used for a very different purpose. Flashes sideways were introduced in the sixth and final season, the most divisive of the show's run, particularly Lost's controversial series finale. While flashbacks and flashforwards are more or less self-explanatory, Lost's flashes sideways were glimpses into an alternate reality. The flashes sideways took place off of the island, contemporaneous with the timeline of the events of season one. The first flash-sideways began on the plane just before the crash, and snippets of dialogue from the original flight were repeated. However, in the flash-sideways, the Flight 815 crash and its aftermath never occurred. Instead, the plane landed safely and the passengers deboarded and continued on alternate reality paths off of the island. In this alternate reality, however, the passengers' lives became intertwined, allowing them to work through unresolved issues that had left them in various states of distress or unrest in the past.



As a device, a flash-sideways is an opportunity to compare the results of two potential courses of action (as in Avengers: Endgame) or a correctable mistake (as in WandaVision). Lost introduced the idea that mistakes in one reality can be corrected in a parallel one, and that events in one world can be mirrored in another. For example, in the real world, antagonist Benjamin Linus is given a redemption arc in the real world, but he only attains inner redemption through the flashes sideways. Linus murdered his father, crash survivor John Locke, and was responsible for the death of his daughter figure Alex. In the sideways world, Linus was united with all three. There, Locke was Linus's coworker and helped Linus resolve a professional issue. Linus now cared for the elderly father he killed. Most significantly, Linus was now Alex's teacher and was presented with the choice between sacrificing his future happiness or hers, paralleling the choice that led to her death. This time he prioritized Alex.


Closely examined, the flashes sideways were a big hint at where the season was headed. Lost's finale revealed that the characters died and were reuniting in the afterlife, which was consistent with the sideways world, where each of them tended to unfinished business and said final goodbyes. It was a fitting ending for a show that felt like a metaphor for purgatory (debunked by the creators) despite the fact that it was a controversial finale. In the end, all of the clues added up, and the flashes sideways were a journey to Lost's inevitable final resting place.
 

Industry's Ken Leung Looks Back on Lost and Working with Tom Cruise (Exclusive)​


For the ABC drama's 20th anniversary, the actor reflects on joining the cast in the fourth season: “I’d never done anything that way before."​


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"We just kind of got thrust into it."
That was the reality Industry star Ken Leung faced when he joined ABC's Lost in its fourth season, where the popular sci-fi drama about plane crash survivors struggling to make do on their mysterious (and Smoke Monster-inhabited) island was reaching one of its narrative peaks by introducing a new, smaller ensemble to the lead cast.
In May of 2007, Lost showrunners and executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse contacted Leung's agents about having the actor join the show following his appearance on a recent episode of The Sopranos, "Remember When," where he played mental patient Carter Chong. Soon after that call, Leung went from living in a "tiny" apartment in New York to the beaches of Hawaii to play Miles Strome, a sarcastic grifter who downplays his ability to communicate with the dead. Once on the island, Miles is forced to embrace his "gift" when he and several other enigmatic characters are sent on a mission by the wealthy and sinister Charles Whitmore (Alan Dale) in an effort to take back the island that Whitmore once called home. Some, like Miles, are on the island to help the passengers of Flight 815. Others are there to do, well, much worse. (We're looking at you, mercenary Keamy.)
For Leung — who has earned widespread praise for his performance as investment-bank executive Eric Tao on Industry — joining the cast of Lost was a figurative whirlwind experience, but also a very rewarding one. In this exclusive interview with the Television Academy to celebrate Lost's 20th anniversary, the actor revisits his time on the Emmy-winning series.
Television Academy: Were you a fan of Lost before you joined the fourth season?
Ken Leung:
I had watched some of it, but I don't think I watched season three at all. I remember watching a lot of season one when it first came out. I was in Vancouver shooting something at the time, and my wife put it on. And I'm friends with Daniel Dae Kim, who played Jin on the show. I'd been friends with Daniel for years before Lost. We workshopped a play in New York at the Public Theater. So I've known him for a while. So it was cool to see him on the show. But I really loved that famous pilot episode.
Lost gives Miles his first big flashback episode with season four's "Some Like it Hoth," which dives deeper into the history of his "ghost whisperer" abilities. How much of his backstory did you know before joining the series?
None. I remember that first call with Carlton before I went over [to Hawaii] to ask him exactly that, to get a sense of what I was playing. And he said, "You know, just show up, be present, and let's just see how it goes." So, he was really vague but, in retrospect, I get it. They kind of made space for certain people and wanted to see what they brought. And depending on what they brought, they kind of wrote to that. And, we never saw [the writers or the showrunners]. The cast was in Hawaii, and the writers and the showrunners and producers were all in L.A. I remember reading the scripts and feeling like, "Oh, they're really watching what we are doing and what we are bringing to it," and so they catered to that in the stories.
How did you like working that way on a show with so many character-centric mysteries baked into the central conceit?
I really dug that. It was new. I'd never done anything that way before. But I knew next to nothing [about Miles]. I knew I had this power. Didn't really know what it was. I remember that episode you're citing, the first [flashback] one with Miles. Steven Williams was the director. While we were shooting that first flashback that revealed what gifts Miles had, I had the thought: "If he senses the dead, what does that mean? Is he hearing a voice? Is he talking to them?" And that didn't feel so right to me based on how it was written. So I kind of just did it; I closed my eyes and it came off as more of like some kind of meditative feeling. Like he was sensing the forces that were in the room.
And I remember Steven saying, "Well, we need to see something. You can't just do nothing."
So is that where Miles' eye twitch came from?
Yes. I thought about [Steven's note] and was like, "Well, what can they see?" And that morphed into a kind of possession. Like, maybe I took on the spirit that was in the room. And then if I took it on, how would you see that? And so, yes, it became this sort of eye-twitch thing — which was developed over the course of the series. That's how that came about; we needed to have something visual to show that it was happening.
Your character came in at a time when Lost was reaching its peak with season four. How challenging was it to join this rather massive and established ensemble of characters as a member of a smaller but significant ensemble cast within it?
It was really scary. I remember at the time, my driver's license expired. And, living in New York [City], I had no reason really to drive. I just had a license to have I.D., so I really didn't pay attention to when it had expired — but it had been expired for years. So, I had to retake a class and retake the test to get my license, it was a whole thing, so I could go to Hawaii. And I lived in this tiny studio apartment on East 5th Street at the time. Tiny. Like, hardly any place for a guest. So the idea of going to Hawaii — where I had never been — I had this image of just vast fields and waterfalls and, you know, some kind of paradise. But how was I going to get around? I'm a city creature, so I was really nervous. I was also in therapy at the time. And so all this stuff made me really nervous.
And when I got there, everyone knew each other and had been there for three seasons. So it took a while for me to kind of find my people. To find friends and feel like I belonged there. Even, like, with the press. I had really never done anything up to that point that required press, and suddenly I'm doing interviews. People are asking me, "Why should we watch Lost?" and "Who are you?" It was very overwhelming. But any problems you had, they felt like "high-class problems," you know? [laughs] You're on this massively popular show in the most beautiful place on Earth, so you have no problems. I found my way, eventually.
Did the show provide some sort of "boot camp" or rehearsal session for you and the other new cast members, so you could acclimate to the show?
No. We just kind of got thrust into it. I know I met Jeremy Davies [who played scientist Daniel Faraday] at our fitting. And we were both looking out at — there was this river running near where we were. There, I kind of sensed that he and I were in a similar place as far as nervousness. He was like, "Oh, how are you doing? How do you like being here?" And I was like, "I don't know. I feel a little out of place." And he was like, "Yeah, I kind of feel the same way." And so we bonded a little bit over that.
With all of the sci-fi and supernatural storylines that Lost was juggling, how challenging was it for you to balance the emotional geography of the character with the more "out there" aspects of the show's narrative?
I think they wanted us to kind of trust our instincts, not our intellect. Not our ability to plan or execute something that was rehearsed. They wanted something organically from us. And, well, I always feel that if you are trying for the audience, trying to tell this story, then the audience doesn't need you to quote unquote "succeed." An audience needs you to try — to really, really try — to be there and to really go for something. And once they see that that's happening, they're with you. They're going to go on the journey with you. They don't need you to reach a certain emotion. It's great if you do, but they don't need you to.
What they do need you to do is not lie to them. That's the thing that resonates. So, I've always felt kind of a comfort in that.
Miles and the rest of his team travel to and from the island via a helicopter that calls a barge off the coast of the island home. Did you ever physically go out to that barge?
No, that was docked. There are some establishing shots of a real barge at sea, but, no, the one we filmed on was docked. There was a canoe scene [in "The Little Prince"], where we are being chased by an outrigger on the ocean. That canoe tipped over one day. Jeremy had a boom box or a radio or something he used to play music. He would bring it with him everywhere. And that went overboard that day.
Terry O'Quinn told me that he took some of his character's knives with him when the show ended. Do you have any props?
I have a can of Dharma beer that I never opened until years later, much to my regret. Yeah, it [tasted] disgusting. But now it's empty and cleaned up.
I also took the roll of duct tape that my character had, but I gave it to someone as a housewarming gift. I put it in this kind of presentational box, and I gave it to somebody who was opening a performance space.
Before Lost, one of your most memorable roles was in the Tom Cruise movie, Vanilla Sky, directed by Cameron Crowe. I have to ask: What was your experience like working with Cruise? I
t was great. Tom Cruise is super friendly. He made this immediate imprint that he was so accessible. Even though I had a really tiny role, he didn't make it feel that way. If you happened to walk by him, he would stop you to say hello or introduce you to whomever he happened to be talking to. He made you feel like you belonged there.
But I do want to share one last thing about Lost — I don't really ever get a chance to share this story.
Please do.
It's kind of a life-changing story. And, as I mentioned to you, I really wasn't comfortable giving interviews. I'm much more comfortable now. But, back then, I didn't know if I was saying the right thing. Sometimes, when people ask questions, they're not really asking that question. They just want to kind of prompt you to talk about anything, so I was unsure what the rules were. That's just how it felt, if that makes sense. So, that made me feel really uncomfortable. And, for the final season of Lost, they had this big "everyone's going to have a one-on-one final season of Lost interview." And I was like, "Oh, no, this is one I can't say 'no' to."
I remember they had this beautiful setup at a fancy hotel. It was out in the lawn, with tents and stuff, and it was my day to do the interview. So, I went into the waiting room and [costars] Jeff Fahey and Nestor Carbonell were there. I was like, "Oh, I guess it's their day to do an interview, too." And they knew it was no secret how I felt about interviews. So when it was my turn — the three of us went out onto the lawn and suddenly, I was like, "Oh, I thought it was [going to be] a one-on-one. I guess this time, they're going to do the three of us. Great! I don't have to be all alone. We're doing a three-person interview."
So, we go out there, and Jeff was like: "Okay, Ken? You sit here, in the center. I'll sit here, and Nestor will sit there." When I sat down, I noticed the camera was only pointing at me. And the interviewer was just looking at me. And I was like, "Wait a second. What are you guys doing here?" And Jeff was like, "We're here for you. We know how you hate this. We know how you're scared of it. And we didn't want you to be by yourself."
It's one of my favorite memories of working on the show, that has nothing to do with the show itself per se. That type of kindness, it's just one of the most beautiful gifts that anyone could do for you. I'll never, ever, ever forget that.
 
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