Trump is setting the country up for the 2nd CIVIL WAR! This latest SCOTUS ruling is pushing us further into Red States vs Blues States

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“It will affect all families”: Challenges await Texas parents if birthright citizenship ends​



EL PASO — Texas parents may face bureaucratic obstacles next month in obtaining United States citizenship for their newborns after the U.S. Supreme Court ended a nationwide injunction on President Donald Trump’s executive order that seeks to eliminate the constitutional right.

The 6-3 ruling ignited a fresh wave of concern among immigrant rights activists, local elected officials and health care administrators who will be tasked with carrying out the order.

Shortly after the ruling, civil and immigrant rights groups filed a class-action lawsuit against the Trump administration, which could lead to a nationwide ruling that would prevent Trump’s executive order from taking effect. But as of Friday, the Supreme Court ruling allows the Trump administration to implement this policy 30 days from now, in 28 states, including Texas, that are not legally challenging Trump’s executive order.

“The immediate effect of the ruling is deep uncertainty for families across the country about whether their babies will be born as US citizens or not,” Murkherjee said. “It's worth noting that if this order does take effect, it will affect all families, not just immigrant families, because every family will be required to prove their citizenship status or their lawful permanent resident status in the hospital delivery room.”

Leaving a baby stateless can also lead to their deportation, but to what country will depend on who is willing to accept a baby born in the U.S. without citizenship, she said.


“You could have thousands of babies that are essentially stateless,” said Domingo Garcia, national president of the League of Latin American Citizens United, an advocacy group with chapters in Texas. “It’s a very cruel and unjust place to put babies and families in.”

According to the Pew Research Center, about 250,000 babies were born to undocumented immigrants in the U.S., or 6% of the total births, in 2016, the latest year for which data is available. In Texas, which is among the states leading the country in live births, an average of more than 377,000 babies are born annually.

As of now, state officials and some hospitals have said they’ve not received any instructions from the federal government on how to proceed with potentially implementing Trump’s executive order.

“A birth certificate is simply a record of an event that occurred in Texas,” said Lara Anton, a spokesperson for the Texas Department of State Health Services. “They’re required to be filed for any birth in Texas, regardless of citizenship or immigration status, and citizenship is not a field on the birth certificate.”


Rural Texas hospitals don't plan on withholding birth certificates for babies born in their facilities, said John Henderson, president and CEO of the Texas Organization of Rural and Community Hospitals, representing 157 hospitals in the state.

The certificate is meant to record a birth, and hospitals "are still the source of truth when it comes to birth certificates and registry, and that's the same tomorrow as it is today," he said.

Henderson added he is not concerned about the ruling's effects on hospitals, but on the patients who might avoid seeking care as a result.

"I don't think hospitals will change the way that they provide care to anyone," he said, "but there might be a reluctance to go to a hospital when you need it."


If a birth certificate issued at an American hospital is not enough to prove citizenship, then it would be worthless, said Robert H. Crane, a retired immigration attorney in McAllen.

“The birth certificate will not prove that they're a U.S. citizen for all these purposes — the Social Security agency won't accept it, it won’t get you a Texas driver's license, won't get you a U.S. passport. It's virtually useless,” Crane said.

Obtaining a U.S. passport would require a much higher burden of proof, such as documentation of their parents’ lawful status.

“It's so chaotic that I can't imagine how it would be administered,” Crane said.


The Trump administration has also not said how it plans to implement this policy, if it could. Last month, during arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court, the lawyer representing the Trump administration said he doesn’t know how it could be implemented.

“The federal officials will have to figure that out essentially,” U.S. Solicitor General John Sauer told Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who pressed the lawyer to explain how and who will be in charge of determining if a baby is a U.S. citizen.

“We don’t know because the agencies were never given the opportunity to formulate the guidance,” Sauer conceded.

Trump’s order and the Supreme Court’s ruling that followed offered no help to local governments about how to tell health authorities to enforce it, said Ector County Judge Dustin Fawcett, a Republican. He said it creates instability for hospitals seeking to provide care in his West Texas county, which has a population of roughly 164,000.


“The clear direction is just not quite there on exactly what we’re supposed to be doing here,” Fawcett, the county’s highest-ranking elected official, said. “Are we not allowing U.S.-born children citizenship when that’s the standard practice?”

The U.S. is one of 30 countries in the world that automatically classifies babies born on its soil as citizens, regardless of their parents' immigration status. In other parts of the world, citizenship is determined by the citizenship or nationality of the parents. Only children born in the U.S. to foreign diplomats are not classified as U.S. citizens because they’re not subject to the U.S. Constitution.


its gonna get REAL serious for people when poor and working class CACS get caught up cuz its REAL easy for that paperwork to get misfiled, not filed properly or lost in the system in some way. And youre gonna see Cameron or Dakota shackled by ICE and put a plane to Sudan because SCOTUS said the president can do that now.

WHen cacs with bad paperwork start getting treated like the haitians and cubans...then the REAL fun begins...



between this and a number of other SCOTUS ruling that will break down to which states will abide them or challenge them...its realistically looking like Red states vs Blue states and not just on a political map.

youre going to have people leaving or entering either color because they dont want to do things or they want certain things banned or restricted..its going to be an even more stark difference than it is now.
 
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The United States Is About to Embark on a Terrifying Experiment in Mass Statelessness




As a result, Executive Order 14160 is now set to take effect in 28 states within 30 days. The children it targets may be born into silence, their identities trapped in paperwork purgatory. Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in a blistering dissent read aloud from the bench, called the decision “a travesty for the rule of law.” Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson went further, warning that the court’s ruling gives the president “the go-ahead to sometimes wield the kind of unchecked, arbitrary power the Founders crafted our Constitution to eradicate.” But the damage is already unfolding. Without the shield of nationwide injunctions, the path is now clear for federal agencies to selectively enforce the executive order, denying documentation to newborns in some states while recognizing it in others, based not on constitutional principle but on geography.

 
Trump's policy remains blocked in the following states:

  • Arizona
  • California
  • Colorado
  • Connecticut
  • Delaware
  • Hawaii
  • Illinois
  • Maine
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • Michigan
  • Minnesota
  • Nevada
  • New Jersey
  • New Mexico
  • New York
  • North Carolina
  • Oregon
  • Rhode Island
  • Vermont
  • Washington
  • Wisconsin
In the remaining states, Trump's order can go into effect 30 days after Friday's ruling, pending any further legal action. That order limits birthright citizenship to those who are U.S. citizens or in the country with legal permanent residency, excluding those on visitor and temporary visas, as well as undocumented immigrants.
 
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Trump's policy remains blocked in the following states:

  • Arizona
  • California
  • Colorado
  • Connecticut
  • Delaware
  • Hawaii
  • Illinois
  • Maine
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • Michigan
  • Minnesota
  • Nevada
  • New Jersey
  • New Mexico
  • New York
  • North Carolina
  • Oregon
  • Rhode Island
  • Vermont
  • Washington
  • Wisconsin
In the remaining states, Trump's order can go into effect 30 days after Friday's ruling, pending any further legal action. That order limits birthright citizenship to those who are U.S. citizens or in the country with legal permanent residency, excluding those on visitor and temporary visas, as well as undocumented immigrants.
I see no problem here.
 
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I see no problem here.
This is about a different kind of numbers. White people will be the numerical minority by 2045 because Black and brown people immigrants come here and procreate, and when they do, the kids are immediately citizens from birth.

This is why they want to end birthright citizenship. The anti-immigration stance is about maintaining White supremacy and nothing more. It's not about jobs. It's not about crimes immigrants commit. It's only about White supremacy being scared of being a minority
 
Yall better make sure your paperwork is right and proper...:giggle::giggle:
Zero worries. It goes without saying that we don’t have allies here, even from the darker complectioned from elsewhere. They get here and act like they are better than us simply because their language is different. Atlanta showed me a lot. I don’t hate the Africans or Haitians but I’ve overheard enough to know if they outnumbered us they would step on us. Obviously, not all, but I’ll never trust them based off personal experiences.
 
Yall better make sure your paperwork is right and proper...:giggle::giggle:

For Black folks, it’s not about the paperwork.

It’s how they are interpreting the U.S. Constitution.

The GOP has created a narrative that they want to observe the Constitution as when it was originally written without the Ammendments after the first 10 which are the “Bill of Rights”.

By that logic, when the Constitution was written, Black people were identified as 3/5 a human.

The 14th Amendment was written specifically to recognize Black people who were born as Slaves as American citizens.

And with this immigration shit with the 14th Amendment, with what they are doing with Latinos, they are being used as an experiment to test citizenship in the courts.

Remember, Blacks did not immigrate to the United States, we were brought here against our will in chains.

So don’t be surprised when they run cases up to SCOTUS to rule that American Blacks are “Illegal Aliens”.

And they will not be deporting Black folks. They will fully apply the 13th Amendment against us.

Everything that the Trump/GOP are doing, the Endgame is too come after Black folks.

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This is all that this is about.

Racist cracKKKas are afraid of becoming a minority. They can't stand the thought of it!
They are afraid that if anyone else is the numerical majority they will treat white people the way white people treat everyone else, and that's incorrect because no one else is that evil. No one else in history has done the evil to other people that white people have done to people
 
I bring up Black issues like Reparations and y’all mfers laughed at me and demanded that I have a full plan in order to demand it. Now you coons are doing mental gymnastics to make illegal immigrants a Black American issue.


Focus on us! Stop whining about other people. Especially when they aren’t our allies.
 
I bring up Black issues like Reparations and y’all mfers laughed at me and demanded that I have a full plan in order to demand it. Now you coons are doing mental gymnastics to make illegal immigrants a Black American issue.


Focus on us! Stop whining about other people. Especially when they aren’t our allies.
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Most of these niggas are talking to us like we are stupid. I wonder why….
 
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Most of these niggas are talking to us like we are stupid. I wonder why….
These coons will claim that we don’t have the resources for Reperations then support us spending our resources on all of the BS that DOGE found and illegal Mexican immigrants. Doesn’t make any sense. Then these smart-dumb coons try and make it a Black American issue.
 


Same mentality with the few Pro-ICEers on here, thinking the Clown Show Administration is attempting to roll back birthright citizenship to target "criminals" and won't harass legal citizens, even though the make-shift gestapo has already been doing that as a test.
 
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