The Primary System in Iowa and New Hampshire

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Americans frustrated by influence wielded by Iowa, New Hampshire
By HOLLY RAMER, Associated Press Writer

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — All eyes may be on Iowa and New Hampshire, but many of them are rolling.

Despite efforts to evict the two states from the front of the presidential calendar, both managed to hang on for another election cycle that culminates with the Iowa caucuses on Thursday and the New Hampshire primary on Jan. 8. As a year of media attention reaches its crescendo, voters in other states are saying enough is enough.

According to national survey conducted for The Associated Press and Yahoo News, just over half of all voters said New Hampshire and Iowa have an extraordinary amount of influence over who wins the two nominations.

"They have way too much — WAY too much — say," said Kevin Thomas of Tacoma, Wash. "California's a big state and they don't have any say, and Iowa's not even half the size of California. It really makes me as a voter wonder what's going on."

Fewer than one in five voters said they favor the current system that allows Iowa and New Hampshire to hold the first contests, while nearly 80 percent would rather see other states get their chance at the front of the line.

"I think they should take turns, maybe take it to a small state like Rhode Island that doesn't have a whole lot of voting power," Thomas said.

Both states have been criticized as unrepresentative of the country given their size and lack of racial diversity. Iowa — population 3 million — is 95 percent white; New Hampshire — population 1.3 million — is 96 percent white. Democrats tried to inject more diversity into the process by adding early contests in Nevada and South Carolina, but Iowa and New Hampshire moved even earlier.

The system became so scrambled last year that New Hampshire Secretary of State Bill Gardner was prepared to move the primary into December to keep ahead of other states that scheduled their own early primaries and caucuses. If anything, the front-loaded calendar made Iowa and New Hampshire more important.

Gardner and other defenders of New Hampshire say the country — and the candidates — are well-served because the primary requires close contact with voters, not just a big advertising budget and name recognition.

"It gives the little guy a chance," said Gardner.

He wasn't surprised by the poll results and negative reaction toward the early states given that most of the country knows nothing about the primary's history or the state's uniquely inquisitive and democratic culture.

New Hampshire Gov. John Lynch, a Democrat who has not endorsed any candidate, argues that New Hampshire's retail politics cannot be duplicated anywhere else in the country.

"We have made it possible for the so-called unknown candidates to make their case without having millions of dollars in the bank. And in turn, we demand that candidates move beyond the rope line and scripted town hall meetings, and directly answer the hard questions from voters," he said. "As a result, the voters, the candidates and the political process all benefit from the New Hampshire primary."

Unsurprisingly, every one of the 21 Iowans who participated in the AP-Yahoo survey think their state and New Hampshire have just the right amount of influence over the presidential selection process. Not so in New Hampshire.

There, two of the five participants said the two states don't have enough power.
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Lynch's point is a distraction because while it may be a more demanding, informative process, that still doesn't address who gets the information and whose demands are met or even considered.
 

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dont get it twisted its all about:
Iowa — population 3 million — is 95 percent white
New Hampshire — population 1.3 million — is 96 percent white
 

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dont get it twisted its all about:
Iowa — population 3 million — is 95 percent white
New Hampshire — population 1.3 million — is 96 percent white

Yeah, the article pointed that out.

I'd prefer a national primary to this system, though some argue that cuts the smaller states out of the process (as if the current system leaves no state behind). A regional primary with rotating orders every election cycle would be much more fair than the current system.
 

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I was looking at information for my home state of Nevada, which will hold a caucus on January 19, the first time this state has ever had a primary this early. (I'm a bit more interested as I thought my independent status would keep me from voting, but you can actually register with the Democratic Party the day of the event, where the Republicans require you to be registered 30 days prior.)

Here's a little something from the Nevada site explaining the process:

The Nevada Democratic Party will partner with the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and IMPACTO, 100 Black Men of America, and the College of Southern Nevada to hold the second Democratic presidential debate in Las Vegas. The debate will be telecast live by MSNBC and held at the Cashman Center in Las Vegas on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 from 6:00 – 8:00 pm Pacific Standard Time.

Nevada, the second state in the nation to hold a presidential caucus and the first in the West to host an early window nominating contest, was chosen as an early state in part because 40 percent of its population is minority, primarily Hispanic and African-American. Issues affecting these communities such as economic development, education, health care and the war in Iraq will be highlighted during the debate.

With 11 days between the New Hampshire primary on Jan. 8th and the Nevada caucus, the Silver State could be the a circuit breaker that halts the momentum of the candidate that wins both earlier contests; the tiebreaker if two candidates split the New Hampshire primary and Iowa Caucuses; or the validator for a candidate who wins all three.

I found the middle paragraph in bold most interesting. First off, :rolleyes: @ what the debate promises, as I remember the last debate here moderated by CNN which began with SEVEN-- I counted, seven-- bullshit questions about the "process" (i.e. politeness-- Dodd was introduced to the debate by being asked about saying Edwards seemed "angrier" than he remembered, party unity bullshit).

More importantly, though, is this "was chosen" shit. They try to make it sound nicer by including a friendly-sounding rationale, but it sounds like they're talking about gerbals in a lab. "We'll let these two states select first because they're representative of this, and then the third because it's representative of that." It's like a gerrymandering of the states! It's all preorchastrated and because they're pulling the strings, determining which states represent what to certain standards and what order they'll vote in.
 

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Though a favorable outcome does not justify their perpetual "advance screening" of candidates, I have to admit I'm a bit surprised Obama won Iowa.

My prediction was either he or Edwards on the Democratic side and definitely Huckabee on the Republican side, but though I thought the Democratic nomination was a toss-up, that 95% number really had me expecting that, though Hillary wouldn't win, Iowans would probably rally around Edwards over Clinton.

So I guess we have to give Iowa some credit?
 
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