The opinions of Actinanass, Part 1

[actinanass]

The opinions of Actinanass

I've been avoiding trying to talk about Democrat Barack Obama on this board for various reasons. Seeing that he will more than likely become the Democratic nominee, I see now its time to actually look at Barack in a rational, and reasonable way. Now I look at nearly every media outlet *discount the uber far right/left media outlets*, and narrow my view about him personally. I've listen to shows like Rush Limbaugh, to news outlets MSNBC. I've even talked to many of my white co-workers on what they think of Barack. Then I formed my own beliefs on the man that is about change. Here is my conclusion:

1. Barack as president. There's two scenarios that can come from this. ONE, he becomes president with a congress thats split between parties. Republicans will work with Barack on issues such as Taxes, war, and a few domestic issues. They will not work with him on universal health care, or gun control. The Democrats will go along with anything that seems popular at the time, however, Pelosi will attempt to use BARACK. If the democrats keep both houses, Barack will become the "token" negro, and a poster boy for failure. The "hillary" people in congress will make Baracks life a living hell in the white house. So to be honest, if you want Barack to have a good term, vote for him, then vote for any republican congressperson. I know this isn't a part of the bgol belief system, but trust me on this one!!

2. Baracks company. This is definitely his weakness. Barack Obama himself seems like a pretty okay dude. Where the problem exists when people from his "camp" say boneheaded things. When you have a wife and pastor that have said things such as "god damn america", and "this is the first time I've been proud of my country" they are giving white people a "dude!! wtf?" moment.

3. Baracks strategy. Sometimes I just wanna yell at the TV "dumbass say something nice about the country so you can get the white vote". Barack is ignoring the main thing that gets presidents elected. He isn't making white people comfortable with him. A lot of people can't stand Mccain's attitude on the republican side. Yet, Obama do not know how to reach to that segment of the population. It seems like Obama still trying to keep the black vote. The problem with this strategy is that BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR MINDS UP. I know NO black person who will still vote for Hilary RIGHT NOW. Hilary will get the white democrat vote, and the mexican vote. The only way Barack can win is if he becomes the better selection for the independents *undecided white folks* in which I don't see him doing. When I say win, I mean the whole election process.

Conclusion: As much as I want a black president, I do not think Obama is ready for a successful one. Honestly, I do not believe Black America is ready for someone of that caliber of a person. We still think that we are being oppress like the ones before us. We still want something for nothing. Not to mention our ignorance in politics. Just like we misused the time, and efforts during the Clinton Administration, I feel like we will not do the necessary moves to better ourselves. I also believe that the best way for us "as a group" can actually become stronger, wiser, and better is if we become divided politically. Every race on this earth is divided politically, yet become stronger socially, and economically. Barack will be the perfect president if we were ready....

This is my opinion...love it or leave it..

 

[shanebp1978]

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Interesting.

 

[Greed]

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Is this going to be a weekly feature?

 

[Zero]

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I've been avoiding trying to talk about Democrat Barack Obama on this board for various reasons. Seeing that he will more than likely become the Democratic nominee, I see now its time to actually look at Barack in a rational, and reasonable way. Now I look at nearly every media outlet *discount the uber far right/left media outlets*, and narrow my view about him personally. I've listen to shows like Rush Limbaugh, to news outlets MSNBC. I've even talked to many of my white co-workers on what they think of Barack. Then I formed my own beliefs on the man that is about change. Here is my conclusion:

1. Barack as president. There's two scenarios that can come from this. ONE, he becomes president with a congress thats split between parties. Republicans will work with Barack on issues such as Taxes, war, and a few domestic issues. They will not work with him on universal health care, or gun control. The Democrats will go along with anything that seems popular at the time, however, Pelosi will attempt to use BARACK. If the democrats keep both houses, Barack will become the "token" negro, and a poster boy for failure. The "hillary" people in congress will make Baracks life a living hell in the white house. So to be honest, if you want Barack to have a good term, vote for him, then vote for any republican congressperson. I know this isn't a part of the bgol belief system, but trust me on this one!!

Why would I vote for a Republican congressman when the congressman has more of a direct effect on my everyday life than the president? Makes no sense to vote against my personal interests in one election to make it "easier" for the president. Also, what makes you think Republicans would work with Obama when it's in their best interest (if we vote to give both houses to them in exchange for a black president) to make sure he is a ONE TERM black president? If Hillary does not get the nomination and Democrats loyal to her try to intentionally hurt Obama by splintering the party, why not replace them with people who will do their job AND support my best interests?

2. Baracks company. This is definitely his weakness. Barack Obama himself seems like a pretty okay dude. Where the problem exists when people from his "camp" say boneheaded things. When you have a wife and pastor that have said things such as "god damn america", and "this is the first time I've been proud of my country" they are giving white people a "dude!! wtf?" moment.

If white folks are going to vote based on misquotes, intentionally twisted words and outright lies, then so be it. It worked out well for them the past 8 years, maybe they want more of the same. I intentionally live somewhat outside of the economy and do my best to limit the affect economic cycles can have on me by working from home (to avoid fuel consumption) and not using credit (my only debt is my mortgage and I plan on paying that off early), so I'd be more than happy to see the whole thing collapse from under them because they vote based on nonsense spin and not real issues.

3. Baracks strategy. Sometimes I just wanna yell at the TV "dumbass say something nice about the country so you can get the white vote". Barack is ignoring the main thing that gets presidents elected. He isn't making white people comfortable with him. A lot of people can't stand Mccain's attitude on the republican side. Yet, Obama do not know how to reach to that segment of the population. It seems like Obama still trying to keep the black vote. The problem with this strategy is that BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR MINDS UP. I know NO black person who will still vote for Hilary RIGHT NOW. Hilary will get the white democrat vote, and the mexican vote. The only way Barack can win is if he becomes the better selection for the independents *undecided white folks* in which I don't see him doing. When I say win, I mean the whole election process.

White people feel comfortable with white people, he can't be Dubya (as bad as things are in this country, HE is the type of president they feel "comfortable" with). You say he can't reach those Republicans that don't feel comfortable with McCain, well those Republicans are to the right of McCain, so he's not going to get those votes regardless.

Conclusion: As much as I want a black president, I do not think Obama is ready for a successful one. Honestly, I do not believe Black America is ready for someone of that caliber of a person. We still think that we are being oppress like the ones before us. We still want something for nothing. Not to mention our ignorance in politics. Just like we misused the time, and efforts during the Clinton Administration, I feel like we will not do the necessary moves to better ourselves. I also believe that the best way for us "as a group" can actually become stronger, wiser, and better is if we become divided politically. Every race on this earth is divided politically, yet become stronger socially, and economically. Barack will be the perfect president if we were ready....

This part makes no sense. You don't feel black people deserve a black president because we are unworthy? You sound a little like Jesse Lee Peterson/ Pastor Manning right here. Also, you say black voters need to split their vote. Well, what if they don't support Republican ideas or don't like the Republican candidate? Which black folks will be assigned the task of constantly voting AGAINST their interests to bring your plan to fruition? I personally feel the whole "Blacks aren't informed voters" routine is a myth and a lie. How can ANYONE say that any other group is more politically savvy than black people when you see the decisions the electorate has made in the past few years. Also, Hispanics have a diverse vote because they are several groups of COMPLETELY unrelated people lumped under a category based on the language they speak. Since they have NOTHING else in common, their personal interests and cultural norms differ, but the ratio of Cuban Democrats or Mexican Republicans is about the same as that of blacks. Whites can afford to be more diverse because, unlike Mexicans and immigration or blacks and the sleazy race card paraded in most elections, they are not often the target of political attacks that force them away from the Republican party.>

This is my opinion...love it or leave it..

I'll pass

 

[QueEx]

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1. Barack as president. There's two scenarios that can come from this.

ONE, he becomes president with a congress thats split between parties. Republicans will work with Barack on issues such as Taxes, war, and a few domestic issues. They will not work with him on universal health care, or gun control. The Democrats will go along with anything that seems popular at the time, however, Pelosi will attempt to use BARACK.

On War: Barack says he will pull the plug on Iraq, even if by a phased withdrawal, its still a withdrawal. Many say now that since the surge things are different militarily in Iraq. Some say, a major reason for the insurgency was a lack of boots on the ground. Why then, would republicans support Barack on the war? Seems to me many republicans and some democrats would be at odds with Barack on that issue?

On Taxes: If Barack's domestic plan includes maintaining spending at present levels or increasing spending - on domestic programs, are you sure republicans would be behind Obama when this would likely call for a tax increase?

On Pelosi: Why would Pelosi attempt to use Barack? You didn't give any details.

TWO, If the democrats keep both houses, Barack will become the "token" negro, and a poster boy for failure. The "hillary" people in congress will make Baracks life a living hell in the white house. So to be honest, if you want Barack to have a good term, vote for him, then vote for any republican congressperson. I know this isn't a part of the bgol belief system, but trust me on this one!!

On The Hillary People: What makes you think the "Hillary people in congress" will seek to do harm to Barack, if he is elected? Who are the Hillary people? What do you base that on ??

On Token Negro: As I understand it, that term is typically used to refer to allowing or having at least one black in a position, etc., to show that Hey, we aren't prejudiced, etc. If the voters elect Obama, how would that be tokenism ???

If Obama would be a token negro if democrats keep both houses, why wouldn't he be a token negro if congress is split evenly between democrats and republicans? - that doesn't make any sense to me.

Aren't you really saying, you realize that Obama might become president and if YOU can't have "both" - a republican president and a republican congress - you'll take a republican congress, if you must take Obama ???

QueEx

 

[nick177th]

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Sen. Obama IS getting the white vote. How can you possibly say he isn't and he's in the lead. African Americans only make up 12% of the population. He's carried the LESS minority saturated states. Iowa, Wyoming, etc. he is not carrying the middle class white vote. You have to understand the "down side" vote. If he wins, there will be a shift in the Senate and the congress. They will pick up enough seats to become the "significant" majority.

Also, the Democrats won't have to worry about vetos from the President. Question. If you tell your child that you are proud of them, does that mean you weren't proud of them before you said that? No it doesn't. I think Mrs. Obama was saying that she was particularly proud of the turn out of young voters. That's just my opinion.

Personally, all of this bullshit is starting to get on my nerves. Everytime Obama says something, everyone hollers that "the Republicans are going to use that against him". Like they're not going to do the same thing to Hillary. So now the new strategy is to say fuck what the people say and just pick a candidate. If you win by one or one hundred thousand votes, you won. Why even have an election if the person wins is not going to be the nominee? If Barak wins the vote and does not recieve the nomination, this country will lose the "young" vote.

On a personal economic tip. I gives a rat's ass who wins. My job NEVER goes away. I'm a Soldier. I will say one thing, I am sick of this 'right wing' bullshit though. It's time for a change. Now Hillary has the balls to call Barak an 'elitist'. My God. What is this world coming to? Her and Bill averaged over 10 mil a year over the last 7 years but, Barak is an elitist?

And if the tables were turned, you best believe that they would've asked Barak a long time ago to step down for party unity. But, it's audacious to ask the Clintons to that. Why? because they are party elite. Oh, wait a minute. Barak is the 'elitist'. My bad. I'm just ready for this to be over.

 

[QueEx]

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Sen. Obama IS

Good commentary; but please add a few paragraphs - so my eyes don't get crossed. LOL

QueEx

 

[actinanass]

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On War: Barack says he will pull the plug on Iraq, even if by a phased withdrawal, its still a withdrawal. Many say now that since the surge things are different militarily in Iraq. Some say, a major reason for the insurgency was a lack of boots on the ground. Why then, would republicans support Barack on the war? Seems to me many republicans and some democrats would be at odds with Barack on that issue?

On Taxes: If Barack's domestic plan includes maintaining spending at present levels or increasing spending - on domestic programs, are you sure republicans would be behind Obama when this would likely call for a tax increase?

On Pelosi: Why would Pelosi attempt to use Barack? You didn't give any details.




On The Hillary People: What makes you think the "Hillary people in congress" will seek to do harm to Barack, if he is elected? Who are the Hillary people? What do you base that on ??

On Token Negro: As I understand it, that term is typically used to refer to allowing or having at least one black in a position, etc., to show that Hey, we aren't prejudiced, etc. If the voters elect Obama, how would that be tokenism ???

If Obama would be a token negro if democrats keep both houses, why wouldn't he be a token negro if congress is split evenly between democrats and republicans? - that doesn't make any sense to me.

Aren't you really saying, you realize that Obama might become president and if YOU can't have "both" - a republican president and a republican congress - you'll take a republican congress, if you must take Obama ???

QueEx

Que, you must understand that when he said that, it is before he sees the situation on the ground. *Matter of a fact, he discard that statement because he did say he would wait until he saw the situation on the ground in Iraq*. Que don't be so sure that any candidate will definitely pull out in the near future.

Que, I was saying if we want a SUCCESSFUL BLACK PERSIDENT, we need both sides to hold a house. He will have to side with one party on one issue, and the other party on another. Not to mention, many democrats do not like things like the war, only because its a republican in office. Do you remember anyone talking bad about Kosovo? Think about it.

Do you honestly think that Hilary will go quietly in the night if we have a President Obama? Hell she's not going away RIGHT NOW. Que, you can't be that naive...

On Pelosi, hell she was trying to use President Bush to pass a lot of bullshit. What makes you think she won't do it to the TOKEN president?

On taxes, if the houses were split, perhaps Obama will have the ability to push oil drilling in areas IN OUR COUNTRY. Maybe he could be convince that taxing more on companies will end up taxing more on the employees in the companies. A Republican senate will make Obama look good, if Obama stays open minded like he is now..

 

[actinanass]

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I'll pass

LOL, I love this "either you are with us or you are against us" attitude.

Zero, you are not looking at the whole picture. Every race has a large percentage of people voting differently. We are the only race that votes largely the same. Yet, we are shown to have the most issues amongst any other minority.

I'm not saying become a republican *hell I'm not jumping all over the republicans*. All I'm saying is that we are not looking at the political world with a clear mind. Thus, our vote will never be taken seriously. This is why our race isn't taken seriously right now.

Plus, how you going to say that black people will not agree with anything the republicans have to say? Better yet......I'll ask a few questions...

1. Do you feel that you should pay someone YOU DON'T KNOW doctor bills?

2. If someone hits a close family member *right in front of you*, and its a female, how are you going to respond?

3. Do you feel that gays should marry?

4. Do you get sick of people not speaking english at the drive thru?

5. Do you go to church?

6. Do you like having your own money?

7. Do you own a gun?

8. What kind of car do you have?

 

[nick177th]

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Good commentary; but please add a few paragraphs - so my eyes don't get crossed. LOL

QueEx

My bad. I just got to writin' and didn't think about punctuation.

 

[nick177th]

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LOL, I love this "either you are with us or you are against us" attitude.

Zero, you are not looking at the whole picture. Every race has a large percentage of people voting differently. We are the only race that votes largely the same. Yet, we are shown to have the most issues amongst any other minority.

I'm not saying become a republican *hell I'm not jumping all over the republicans*. All I'm saying is that we are not looking at the political world with a clear mind. Thus, our vote will never be taken seriously. This is why our race isn't taken seriously right now.

Plus, how you going to say that black people will not agree with anything the republicans have to say? Better yet......I'll ask a few questions...

1. Do you feel that you should pay someone YOU DON'T KNOW doctor bills?

2. If someone hits a close family member *right in front of you*, and its a female, how are you going to respond?

3. Do you feel that gays should marry?

4. Do you get sick of people not speaking english at the drive thru?

5. Do you go to church?

6. Do you like having your own money?

7. Do you own a gun?

8. What kind of car do you have?

Bruh, I'm not following your questions. In particular, #2, #6, and #8. What do these have to do with the Presidency?

 

[Zero]

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LOL, I love this "either you are with us or you are against us" attitude.

Zero, you are not looking at the whole picture. Every race has a large percentage of people voting differently. We are the only race that votes largely the same. Yet, we are shown to have the most issues amongst any other minority.

I'm not saying become a republican *hell I'm not jumping all over the republicans*. All I'm saying is that we are not looking at the political world with a clear mind. Thus, our vote will never be taken seriously. This is why our race isn't taken seriously right now.

Plus, how you going to say that black people will not agree with anything the republicans have to say? Better yet......I'll ask a few questions...

1. Do you feel that you should pay someone YOU DON'T KNOW doctor bills?

Yes, because I pay MORE when they walk into the hospital uninsured and get treated and the insurance companies and hospitals roll those losses into my healthcare costs. I'd also prefer a universal system because more and more people are going uninsured and that is a recipe for a major public health crisis. Personally, I think healthcare should be the most heavily regulated industry in this country.

2. If someone hits a close family member *right in front of you*, and its a female, how are you going to respond?

Democrats advocate spousal abuse? Tell that to all those rural American REPUBLICAN wife beaters. **IRRELEVANT WEDGE ISSUE**

3. Do you feel that gays should marry?

I don't care. Not like they are going to pass a law forcing ME to do it. **IRRELEVANT WEDGE ISSUE**

4. Do you get sick of people not speaking english at the drive thru?

Never been to a drive through where the people didn't speak English. Seems like it would be counterproductive. My aunt has been an American citizen for 60 years and can barely speak English. **IRRELEVANT WEDGE ISSUE**

5. Do you go to church?

No and maybe the fact that "Christian" and "Republican" have merged into some sort of bastard child is the reason why. **IRRELEVANT WEDGE ISSUE**

6. Do you like having your own money?

I do and since I'm middle class, I pay pretty much the same (which is more than my fair share), no matter which party is in power. One side gives my money to the rich, the other side gives my money to the poor (I'd rather the poor have it). When was the last time a Republican gave the middle class much more than one of those $500 rebate checks every couple of years during election season. Those rebate checks are about as reliable as the DOHS alert level going orange when elections are looming. And remember, the Republican "Messiah" (Ronald Reagan) raised taxes like 15 times.

7. Do you own a gun?

I did, don't anymore, but NOBODY is going to take our guns away anyway, it's a meaningless wedge issue unless you live in D.C. or NYC. **IRRELEVANT WEDGE ISSUE**

8. What kind of car do you have?

An SUV and a sedan, but like I said, I work from home so fuel isn't an issue for me.

What do you mean "You are with us or against us"? You said love it or leave it, I said "I'll pass" and gave you reasons why. Plus, I thought "You are with us or against us was the right wing rallying cry.

I didn't say blacks don't agree with Republicans on anything, I said they don't vote for Republicans because they choose not to and they are free to make that choice. If blacks on large don't vote Republican, is that a Republican problem or a black problem? Seems to me that there is a reason black folks have turned away from the Republican party and the way they have behaved inthe past 8 years or so, there is good reason for a LOT of people to turn away from them.

My point was that if black folks find something within the Republican party (or any other party) that appeals to them, they will vote for that party. We are no more or less informed than other groups. At least we vote our conscious and don't buy into phony wedge issues like so many "middle American" white voters who ONLY vote wedge issues and are COMPLETELY unaware of ANY REAL issues facing the country.

 

[Zero]

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Que, you must understand that when he said that, it is before he sees the situation on the ground. *Matter of a fact, he discard that statement because he did say he would wait until he saw the situation on the ground in Iraq*. Que don't be so sure that any candidate will definitely pull out in the near future. Nobody who is a realist thinks we can just yank troops out of Iraq, but making a commitment to keep them there forever without even PLANNING for a withdrawal is insane.

Que, I was saying if we want a SUCCESSFUL BLACK PERSIDENT, we need both sides to hold a house. He will have to side with one party on one issue, and the other party on another. Not to mention, many democrats do not like things like the war, only because its a republican in office. Do you remember anyone talking bad about Kosovo? Kosovo didn't last 5 years and kill 4000 soldiers and nobody lied to get the war started Think about it.

Do you honestly think that Hilary will go quietly in the night if we have a President Obama? Hell she's not going away RIGHT NOW. Que, you can't be that naive...

Hillary will have no choice and there is not "Hillary block" in congress if she looses the nomination. They latched onto Hillary because they thought she would be the winner. Self interest will trump any sort of perceived loyalty. Hillary's support in congress isn't some sort of cult, they thought they were getting something out of the deal.

On Pelosi, hell she was trying to use President Bush to pass a lot of bullshit. What makes you think she won't do it to the TOKEN president?

It's her job to try and push legislation through no matter WHO the president is. And why would Obama be a TOKEN? Like Que said, you can't be a token when you are the boss, it goes outside of the bounds of what tokenism is. Are Stanley O'Neal (CEO of Merrill Lynch) and John W. Thompson (CEO of Symantec) token CEO's? Just because a successful person happens to be black does not automatically make them a token? Highest ranking "TOKEN" black in this country today is Clarence Thomas.

On taxes, if the houses were split, perhaps Obama will have the ability to push oil drilling in areas IN OUR COUNTRY. Maybe he could be convince that taxing more on companies will end up taxing more on the employees in the companies. A Republican senate will make Obama look good, if Obama stays open minded like he is now..

Corporate tax breaks have been PROVEN to have no benefit to workers. Salaries in this country have been stagnant for 15 years while corporate profits have never been higher and corporate tax burden has never been lower.

I know these questions were directed at Que, but what the hell.

 

[QueEx]

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Que, you must understand that when he said that, it is before he sees the situation on the ground. *Matter of a fact, he discard that statement because he did say he would wait until he saw the situation on the ground in Iraq*. Que don't be so sure that any candidate will definitely pull out in the near future.

You're right, Obama clarified his withdrawal position, but he has never wavered in his commitment to withdrawal. Remember, the issue is whether republicans will support Obama on withdrawal. I gave you reasons why I believe that they would not. You said they would. WHY?

Que, I was saying if we want a SUCCESSFUL BLACK PERSIDENT, we need both sides to hold a house. He will have to side with one party on one issue, and the other party on another. Not to mention, many democrats do not like things like the war, only because its a republican in office. Do you remember anyone talking bad about Kosovo? Think about it.

I thought about it ... and ... I disagree. If congress is divided as you would have it, how would there be a concensus on the issues important to Obama? You could be right, but -- how ???

Regarding Kosovo: how many boots were on the ground? I don't think there are any points of comparison between Kosovo and Iraq -- militarily or politically. What similarities do you see?

Do you honestly think that Hilary will go quietly in the night if we have a President Obama? Hell she's not going away RIGHT NOW. Que, you can't be that naive...

I don't think the same dynamics hold during presidential primaries as during an actual presidency. Historically, elected officials of the party coming to power tend to coalesce. I can't think of a time when they haven't, can you?

On Pelosi, hell she was trying to use President Bush to pass a lot of bullshit. What makes you think she won't do it to the TOKEN president?

What kind of bullshit? Examples please.

Re: Token; please don't continue saying that. It makes you sound sour grapish.

On taxes, if the houses were split, perhaps Obama will have the ability to push oil drilling in areas IN OUR COUNTRY.

How will a split house result in opening the Alaska National Wildlife preserve? How?

Maybe he could be convince[d] that taxing more on companies will end up taxing more on the employees in the companies.

???

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here.

A Republican senate will make Obama look good, if Obama stays open minded like he is now..

Could you explain this one? You could be right, but could you tell me how?


QueEx

 

[QueEx]

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I know these questions were directed at Que, but what the hell.

LOL

 

[QueEx]

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Conclusion: . . . I do not believe Black America is ready for someone of that caliber of a person.


This is my opinion...love it or leave it..

The better question might be: Is America Ready?

See, A measure of racism: 15 percent?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9761.html


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[QueEx]

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When are we going to get more of this ??

 

[QueEx]

We didn't know it then, but these would become classics.
Bumping Part 1 for those who missed it.

 

[QueEx]

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I've been avoiding trying to talk about Democrat Barack Obama on this board for various reasons. Seeing that he will more than likely become the Democratic nominee, I see now its time to actually look at Barack in a rational, and reasonable way. Now I look at nearly every media outlet *discount the uber far right/left media outlets*, and narrow my view about him personally. I've listen to shows like Rush Limbaugh, to news outlets MSNBC. I've even talked to many of my white co-workers on what they think of Barack. Then I formed my own beliefs on the man that is about change. Here is my conclusion:

1. Barack as president. There's two scenarios that can come from this. ONE, he becomes president with a congress thats split between parties. Republicans will work with Barack on issues such as Taxes, war, and a few domestic issues. They will not work with him on universal health care, or gun control. The Democrats will go along with anything that seems popular at the time, however, Pelosi will attempt to use BARACK. If the democrats keep both houses, Barack will become the "token" negro, and a poster boy for failure. The "hillary" people in congress will make Baracks life a living hell in the white house. So to be honest, if you want Barack to have a good term, vote for him, then vote for any republican congressperson. I know this isn't a part of the bgol belief system, but trust me on this one!!

You were wrong.

2. Baracks company. This is definitely his weakness. Barack Obama himself seems like a pretty okay dude. Where the problem exists when people from his "camp" say boneheaded things. When you have a wife and pastor that have said things such as "god damn america", and "this is the first time I've been proud of my country" they are giving white people a "dude!! wtf?" moment.

You were dead wrong.

3. Baracks strategy. Sometimes I just wanna yell at the TV "dumbass say something nice about the country so you can get the white vote". Barack is ignoring the main thing that gets presidents elected. He isn't making white people comfortable with him. A lot of people can't stand Mccain's attitude on the republican side. Yet, Obama do not know how to reach to that segment of the population. It seems like Obama still trying to keep the black vote. The problem with this strategy is that BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR MINDS UP. I know NO black person who will still vote for Hilary RIGHT NOW. Hilary will get the white democrat vote, and the mexican vote. The only way Barack can win is if he becomes the better selection for the independents *undecided white folks* in which I don't see him doing. When I say win, I mean the whole election process.

You were wrong.

Conclusion: As much as I want a black president, I do not think Obama is ready for a successful one. Honestly, I do not believe Black America is ready for someone of that caliber of a person. We still think that we are being oppress like the ones before us. We still want something for nothing. Not to mention our ignorance in politics. Just like we misused the time, and efforts during the Clinton Administration, I feel like we will not do the necessary moves to better ourselves. I also believe that the best way for us "as a group" can actually become stronger, wiser, and better is if we become divided politically. Every race on this earth is divided politically, yet become stronger socially, and economically. Barack will be the perfect president if we were ready....

This is my opinion...love it or leave it..

You were wrong.

.

 

[actinanass]

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You were wrong.




You were dead wrong.

3. Baracks strategy. Sometimes I just wanna yell at the TV "dumbass say something nice about the country so you can get the white vote". Barack is ignoring the main thing that gets presidents elected. He isn't making white people comfortable with him. A lot of people can't stand Mccain's attitude on the republican side. Yet, Obama do not know how to reach to that segment of the population. It seems like Obama still trying to keep the black vote. The problem with this strategy is that BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR MINDS UP. I know NO black person who will still vote for Hilary RIGHT NOW. Hilary will get the white democrat vote, and the mexican vote. The only way Barack can win is if he becomes the better selection for the independents *undecided white folks* in which I don't see him doing. When I say win, I mean the whole election process.

You were wrong.




You were wrong.

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Only time will tell...

 

[thoughtone]

Re: The opinions of Actinanass

I've been avoiding trying to talk about Democrat Barack Obama on this board for various reasons. Seeing that he will more than likely become the Democratic nominee, I see now its time to actually look at Barack in a rational, and reasonable way. Now I look at nearly every media outlet *discount the uber far right/left media outlets*, and narrow my view about him personally. I've listen to shows like Rush Limbaugh, to news outlets MSNBC. I've even talked to many of my white co-workers on what they think of Barack. Then I formed my own beliefs on the man that is about change. Here is my conclusion:

1. Barack as president. There's two scenarios that can come from this. ONE, he becomes president with a congress thats split between parties. Republicans will work with Barack on issues such as Taxes, war, and a few domestic issues. They will not work with him on universal health care, or gun control. The Democrats will go along with anything that seems popular at the time, however, Pelosi will attempt to use BARACK. If the democrats keep both houses, Barack will become the "token" negro, and a poster boy for failure. The "hillary" people in congress will make Baracks life a living hell in the white house. So to be honest, if you want Barack to have a good term, vote for him, then vote for any republican congressperson. I know this isn't a part of the bgol belief system, but trust me on this one!!

2. Baracks company. This is definitely his weakness. Barack Obama himself seems like a pretty okay dude. Where the problem exists when people from his "camp" say boneheaded things. When you have a wife and pastor that have said things such as "god damn america", and "this is the first time I've been proud of my country" they are giving white people a "dude!! wtf?" moment.

3. Baracks strategy. Sometimes I just wanna yell at the TV "dumbass say something nice about the country so you can get the white vote". Barack is ignoring the main thing that gets presidents elected. He isn't making white people comfortable with him. A lot of people can't stand Mccain's attitude on the republican side. Yet, Obama do not know how to reach to that segment of the population. It seems like Obama still trying to keep the black vote. The problem with this strategy is that BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR MINDS UP. I know NO black person who will still vote for Hilary RIGHT NOW. Hilary will get the white democrat vote, and the mexican vote. The only way Barack can win is if he becomes the better selection for the independents *undecided white folks* in which I don't see him doing. When I say win, I mean the whole election process.

Conclusion: As much as I want a black president, I do not think Obama is ready for a successful one. Honestly, I do not believe Black America is ready for someone of that caliber of a person. We still think that we are being oppress like the ones before us. We still want something for nothing. Not to mention our ignorance in politics. Just like we misused the time, and efforts during the Clinton Administration, I feel like we will not do the necessary moves to better ourselves. I also believe that the best way for us "as a group" can actually become stronger, wiser, and better is if we become divided politically. Every race on this earth is divided politically, yet become stronger socially, and economically. Barack will be the perfect president if we were ready....

This is my opinion...love it or leave it..

LEAVE IT!

...the story of an actinanass life!

 

[thoughtone]

Re: The opinions of Actinanass

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You were wrong.




You were dead wrong.




Only time will tell...

Hoping for the country to fail!

 

[actinanass]

Re: The opinions of Actinanass

Hoping for the country to fail!

don't be a dumb ass....

No one said that shit...

 

[QueEx]

Re: The opinions of Actinanass


TCM (Turner Classic Movies) called asking if I would not re-run (BUMP) the "Classics of Actinanass" series.

TCM wondered why the Classics of Actinanass get more attention than its old movies.

I told them:

TCM's classics - are just old movies; make believe.

Actinanass Classics - you can't make this shit up!​

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[Upgrade Dave]

I love TCM so watch your mouth, potna.

 

[thoughtone]

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