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source: Miami Herald

Florida. Board Keeps Klan Leader's Name at High School

By RON WORD (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
November 04, 2008 4:46 AM EST

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida school board voted late Monday night to keep the name of a Confederate general and early Ku Klux Klan leader at a majority black high school, despite opposition from a black board member who said the school's namesake was a "terrorist and racist."

After hearing about three hours of public comments, Duval County School Board members voted 5-2 to the retain the name of Nathan Bedford Forrest High School. The board's two black members cast the only votes to change the name.

"(Forrest) was a terrorist and a racist," argued board member Brenda Priestly Jackson, who is black.

Betty Burney, the board chairman and the board's other black member, also voted against retaining the name.

"It is time to turn the page and get beyond where we are," she said.

Board member Tommy Hazouri voted to keep the name and said it is difficult to know "who the real Forrest is."

The board listened to passionate arguments from those on both sides. More than 140 people crowded into the meeting room, with another 20 watching the meeting on a television in the lobby.

Many urged a name change, saying the Forrest name was an insult.

"Nathan Bedford Forrest was part of the Ku Klux Klan, no matter how you put it. Nathan Bedford Forrest needs to be changed," said Stanley Scott, who is black.

But several spoke favorably of the general, saying the perceptions that Forrest was an evil man who ordered the massacre of Union troops were incorrect.

June Cooper, who graduated from Forrest in 1970, said some people wanted to wipe out Southern history.

"He was a good man," said Cooper, who is White. "He was a military genius."

Despite her opposition, the board's chairwoman noted that the intensely debated issue could distract from students' education and had even prompted one person to receive death threats for wanting the name changed.

"The naming of a school should not take precedence over someone's life," she said.

Some had suggested naming the school after the street it sits on, or honoring a graduate whose plane was shot down in 1991 over Iraq on the first night of Operation Desert Storm.

Forrest High School, which has received two consecutive "F" grades on state assessment tests, opened as an all-white school in the 1950s. Its name was suggested by the Daughters of the Confederacy, who saw it as a protest to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling that eventually integrated the nation's public schools.

But now more than half Forrest High's students are black.

The issue has come up several times during the past half-century, but the School Board has never changed the name. Jacksonville has three other schools named after Confederate generals, but it also has schools named after civil rights icons.

Born poor in Chapel Hill, Tenn., in 1821, Forrest amassed a fortune as a plantation owner and slave trader, importing Africans long after the practice had been made illegal. At 40, he enlisted as a private in the Confederate army at the outset of the Civil War, rising to a cavalry general in a year.

Some accounts accused Forrest of ordering black prisoners to be massacred after a victory at Tennessee's Fort Pillow in 1864, though historians question the validity of the claims.

In 1867, the newly formed Klan elected Forrest its honorary Grand Wizard or national leader, but he publicly denied being involved. In 1869, he ordered the Klan to disband because of the members' increasing violence. Two years later, a congressional investigation concluded his involvement had been limited to his attempt to disband it.

After his death in 1877, memorials to him sprung up throughout the South, particularly in Tennessee. A mounted statue of Forrest and the graves of the general and his wife are in a Memphis park bearing his name.
 
source: Free Republic

Should plaque be put up about racist South Carolina governor? (Tillman statue on Statehouse grounds)
Island Packet ^ | January 15, 2008 | JOHN MONK

Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 5:40:25 PM by Between the Lines

A proposed addition to the State House statue would accurately portray Ben Tillman as one of the leading white supremacists of his time.

As thousands pour onto the State House lawn next week for the Martin Luther King Jr. Day march, a part of the state's history will stand silent.

Silent, and wrong.

Words at the base of Ben "Pitchfork" Tillman's statue, a prominent gathering place near the State House steps, describe Tillman as a great South Carolinian who worked for peoples' rights.

In reality, he was one of the leading white supremacists of his time who worked for years to deny African Americans their rights. As S.C. governor, he advocated lynching black people. Later, he helped usher in the state's Jim Crow era.

Now, there's a movement across the country to make historical markers accurate. South Carolina already has altered the wording at the base of U.S. Sen. Strom Thurmond's State House statue, adding his black daughter to the list of his four white children.

Some say adding a plaque to Tillman's statue with more complete information could provide a more truthful description of his role.

"If somebody is talking about putting up a plaque, we would be supportive," Gov. Mark Sanford said last week. "History matters. Real history ought to be accurately recorded and available so people can learn from it."

HISTORY UNMASKED

The King Day marchers will include U.S. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, the African-American candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination who has energized black and white voters.

Obama's candidacy would horrify Tillman.

"Tillman would be in such a rage he would throw himself off the top of the State House," former state Rep. I.S. Leevy Johnson said of Obama's candidacy and expected presence on the State House grounds Monday.

Rep. Joe Neal, D-Richland, former chairman of the legislative Black Caucus, said the plaque idea is new, and he would very much like to see one.

"When it comes to history, I don't believe in trying to hide things," he said. "The question is, do we in the S.C. legislature have the moral wherewithal to do something?"

While there's no disagreement over Tillman's place in history, some leaders fear an effort to erect a plaque accurately depicting his actions could lead to a long and divisive battle.

The legislature was polarized for years by the battle to remove the Confederate flag from the State House dome.

"I wouldn't want to touch that (the plaque issue)," said state Sen. Darrell Jackson, D-Richland, and pastor of one of Columbia's largest black churches.

"There would be very tense feelings on how we do business," said Jackson, adding he would vote for the effort but not propose it.

RACE AND TRUTH

Thurmond’s family did not object to the changes made to information on his statue in 2004.

Across the country, others are being more truthful about race in history.

• The main room at the new $621 million U.S. Capitol visitor’s center will be called Emancipation Hall in honor of black slaves forced to help build the original building.

• Last week, the legislature of New Jersey, the last Northern state to abolish slavery in 1846, officially recognized and apologized for its role in slavery.

• In Frederick, Md., officials and activists are working on a compromise that would add a plaque to a bust of former U.S. Chief Justice Roger Taney at city hall.

Taney wrote the 1856 Dred Scott decision that stripped African-Americans of their rights as citizens and helped lead to the Civil War.

Activists originally pushed to have the bust removed but now are working with Frederick city officials on language that deals with Taney’s actions.

State Sen. John Courson, who chaired an ad hoc legislative committee to study State House monuments, said any new monument or plaque would have to get legislative approval.

“We don’t want this to become a theme park,” said Courson, R-Richland, referring to monuments that have sprouted in recent years. “The State House is the crown jewel of South Carolina, and we have basically maxed out on the number of monuments we should have.”

BALANCING SYMBOLS OF SUPREMACY

Tillman was South Carolina's governor from 1890-1894 and U.S. senator from 1895-1918.

Coming from a family that owned slaves before the Civil War, Tillman made it his life's work to deny rights to freed African Americans. After the Civil War, he led a militia that terrorized and killed former slaves.

A charismatic speaker and force in the U.S. Senate, he traveled the nation in the early 1900s, giving speeches to tens of thousands of people, urging whites to prepare to fight if African Americans tried to claim equal rights.

In 1902, Tillman railed against President Teddy Roosevelt for having a black guest in the White House. He preached the need to keep black people out of leadership positions and kill those who sought equal rights.

When the statue was erected in 1940, references to South Carolinians, such as are on the Tillman statue, were understood to mean white South Carolinians, said University of South Carolina historian Walter Edgar.

“People who know history know that,” he said. “Ben Tillman was a vicious racist, no question about that. He bragged about it on the floor of the U.S. Senate.”

He also earned his nickname there when he took issue with the economic policies of President Grover Cleveland and threatened in a speech to “poke old Grover with a pitchfork.”

To be sure, Tillman accomplished positive things. He was one of the first South Carolina leaders to use his position to get federal money for the state. The money helped build and maintain the Charleston Naval Base, a major Lowcountry employer for nearly a century.

He also helped found what are now Clemson and Winthop universities, which is acknowledged on his statue. Back then, both campuses were for whites only. Both have Tillman Halls on their main campuses.

Retired USC civil rights historian Dan Carter said a plaque could remind people that Tillman was not only a “champion of the white working class, but that he worked relentlessly to disenfranchise blacks and put them in a position of incredible subordination.”

“All over the South we have these symbols of white supremacy,” Carter said. “You can’t do away with these symbols, but you try to balance them.”
 
I can be confident none of this changes no matter who wins so as not to upset the honkeys in the South.
 
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"These Must Be Corrected" Racism
Our racial interaction and understanding of each other; and
Our racial understanding and reconciliation with Hispanics.

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