The Offical D WADE for MVP thread

[daman200]

He Does more with less help than the other two guys(Lebron and Kobe)

It seems like every game i look up he got 40-50 points 10 assists and 8 boards with 3 steals and 2 blocks

since the all-star break Wade has shot 55.7 percent from the field and has averaged 35.7 points, 10.8 assists, 2.7 steals, 1.3 blocks and 39.7 minutes in the eight games since Miami returned from the break.

Wade leads the league in scoring (at 29.2 points per game), is ninth in the league in assists (7.4), second in steals (2.79), and is on pace to break the record for most blocked shots by a player 6'4" or shorter in a season. Obscure, maybe. But awesome, undoubtedly. And it shows just how much Wade is doing in every single facet of the game to carry his team to the playoffs.
But Wade has him beat in steals and blocks, which again, is a testament to his value to his team. See, LeBron has people like Zydrunas Ilgauskas to rebound, Anderson Varejao to block shots, and (now healthy) Delonte West to help out with the steals. And let's not forget too that James has another All-Star on the team (even though it took him a while to get there) in Mo Williams, who just happened to drop 30 the other night when the Heat and the Cavs went head-to-head.

No one on the Heat is going for 30 besides Dwyane Wade, period.

It's not that Lebron couldn't be as good as Wade has been this season, and in fact, I'm pretty sure that he could be even better. But the reality is, he doesn't need to be that dominant in every single category because James has so much more help than Wade does -- and the same is true for Bryant.

If you want to give the MVP award to the best player in the game, then this season, LeBron James is your man. But if we're truly looking for the player who is the most valuable, the guy who's just killing it in every statistical category on both offense and defense, and without whom his team would likely finish dead last in the Eastern Conference, then Dwyane Wade is the easy choice for league MVP this season. And it's really not even close.

That right there is TRUTH!!!

 

[daman200]

Dwyane Wade’s day was record setting. And he was only one part of an unforgettable afternoon for the Miami Heat.

Wade finished with 50 points, 10 rebounds and nine assists in another dazzling show, Jermaine O’Neal added 28 points and the Heat pulled off two huge last-ditch rallies before beating the Utah Jazz in a triple-overtime epic, 140-129 on Saturday.

“Just another day at the office,” Wade said.

It was the first time either team played three overtimes since 1992. The Heat were one point shy of matching the franchise’s all-time best, and Miami’s Erik Spoelstra became just the 11th coach to win the first five overtime games of his career.

But in the end, that all paled besides Wade’s ever-growing list of accomplishments.

Wade tied his career high in scoring, set new bests in minutes (52 1/2 ), field goals made (19) and attempted (39), plus passed Alonzo Mourning to become Miami’s all-time points leader.

“We made them work for everything,” Wade said. “It was a total team effort.”

Mario Chalmers scored 23 points for Miami, which shot 35-for-39 from the foul line and moved a season-high seven games over .500 (36-29). The Heat also got back within 1 1/2 games of Atlanta for fourth place in the Eastern Conference, and improved to 5-0 in overtime this season.

Deron Williams scored 30 points and had 13 assists for the Jazz, who also got a season-high 25 points from Kyle Korver, along with seven rebounds and six assists. Carlos Boozer finished with 20 points and 13 rebounds for the Jazz.

“We did a how-to on how to lose a basketball game, pretty much,” Williams said. “Fouling when we don’t need to, trying to score when we definitely don’t need to, instead of using our clock. It wasn’t very smart.”

The Heat erased a seven-point deficit in the final 55 seconds of regulation, then gave up the first eight points of the first overtime before roaring back again, and eventually took control. Miami outscored Utah 15-4 in the third OT.

“We knew if we were able to get into overtime, we’d have a chance to win it,” O’Neal said. “Unfortunately, it went three overtimes.”

The second overtime had five ties, the last coming when Williams hit a jumper with 3.4 seconds left.

But the last period was all Miami.

“We should have won it an hour ago,” Korver said.

Down the stretch, Heat players and coaches acknowledged thinking about the six-overtime matchup Syracuse and Connecticut played Thursday night in the Big East quarterfinals.

“I was thinking about Syracuse,” Haslem said, “and I was like, ‘No, we ain’t going six.”’

Utah was on the cusp of winning twice, first in regulation, then again in the first overtime.

Of course, by the time the game ended, those leads seemed like distant memories.

“I think our fans now are getting a little bit spoiled,” Spoelstra said. “We’re trying to win them back and give them something to remember every time out. I think they got their money’s worth.”
Utah Jazz head coach Jerry Sloan reacts to a call by officials during the fourth quarter against the Miami Heat Saturday March 14, 2009 in Miami. The Heat beat the Jazz in triple overtime 140-129.
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In regulation, the Jazz led 107-100 with 55 seconds left, before getting outscored 7-0. Chalmers made two free throws, Wade found Haslem for a dunk, and suddenly it was 107-104. O’Neal blocked a dunk by Paul Millsap at the other end, and James Jones made three free throws in the final 16.3 seconds.

“We played right into their hands,” Utah coach Jerry Sloan said.

It was just getting started.

The first overtime began with Korver and Mehmet Okur making 3-pointers, and the Jazz were up 115-107 with 1:45 left. Back came Miami—Wade found O’Neal inside, scored the next four points himself, and Haslem tied it on two free throws with 22.1 seconds remaining.

“There’s an element of resiliency with this team that we’ve talked about all year,” Spoelstra said. “There’s a toughness. They just don’t give up.”

At first, Spoelstra probably was wondering if Miami would show up.

The early start—11 a.m. for those watching in Salt Lake City—did nothing to slow the Jazz.
The Miami Heat's Dwyane Wade gives a thumbs up to the cheering crowd seconds before the end of triple overtime against the Utah Jazz Saturday March 14, 2009 in Miami. The Heat beat the Jazz 140-129 in overtime.
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Utah made 12 of its first 18 shots and outrebounded Miami 14-6 in the first quarter. Andrei Kirilenko scored the first basket of the second quarter for a 31-19 Utah lead, which was significant: The Jazz hadn’t lost any game this season in which they led by more than 10 points.

About 2 1/2 hours later, that would change.

Wade scored 10 points in the second quarter to get Miami to 55-51 at the half, and he added 10 more in the third as the Heat took an 83-80 lead.

Little did anyone know, the game was just beginning.

“I’m ready to go lay down,” Wade said.

Yeah and i know Lebron Hit 50 on the Kings in OT. But D.wade Hit 50 on the jazz a playoff team that had just won 12 STRAIGHT GAMES

 

[cranrab]

D WADE for MVP thread

dwyane wade definitely deserves to be in the conversation.

kid is playing like players used to play. averaging 30+ ppg on 50%+ shooting at home. to update his productivity since the all star break, he's averaging 36+ ppg on 56%+ shooting.

against the WORSTern conference, wade is averaging 30+ ppg on 50%+ shooting.

and for timrock, dwyane wade is averaging 20.8 FGAs in wins, and 22.6 FGAs in losses. a perfectly acceptable 8% variance.

to put that figure in perspective, fellow MVP candidate lebron james has a 11.3% variance in wins and losses.

tobe has a 26.9% variance in wins and losses.

 

[RunawaySlave]

Reason why I think he deserves the most consideration is because he impacts the game as much on DEFENSE as he does on offense. Forget about the points, he'll come up with steals, BLOCKS, defensive rebounds and is a very good help defender. However, he is prone to jump shooters having a big game or two against him. Jamal Crawford used to light him up regularly for example.

 

[963852]

First I'm going to tell you strait, I reside in Miami, I a fan of all the home teams(Heat/Dolphins/Marlins/Panther/Hurricanes) and a big Wade fan. With the three main candidates Wade, Lebron, and Bryant if anyone of the three won it, I wouldn't be someone was cheated.


All these guys have stats to back their case which is half the game so I'll get into what sets apart any MVP winner. If the candidates were injured this year for their respective teams, the Heat wouldnt smell the playoff, Lakers would be a borderline playoff team and so would the Cavs with how the Eastern Conference is. People look at this and say see, that's why Wade is the MVP along with his crazy all around statline. Things is, it's a trophy for the Most Valuable Player. Bryant's Value to his team makes them a championship contender, Lerbon's Value to his team makes then a championship contender. Wade's value to his team makes them a playoff contender. That is the main reason why the MVP trophy usually goes to a guy on a team with at least 50 wins. It's more than stats. Based on this season, if you were an NBA owner and you could pick any player, its Lebron first, why because he is going to take your team to a championship. Second would be Kobe, and a not so distant third would be Wade.

On a side note, if it was an award for the best player, I would give it to Wade in a heartbeat. His statline is ridiclious. I remember I was telling people about the thing with the blocks from early in the season. I remember looking at stats and he was at number 20, thought it was a misprint lol.

 

[Spectrum]

Re: D WADE for MVP thread

his productivity since the all star break, he's averaging 36+ ppg on 56%+ shooting.
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I saw this earlier... 56 percent for a guard is crazy...especially in today's game

 

[Spectrum]

Reason why I think he deserves the most consideration is because he impacts the game as much on DEFENSE as he does on offense. Forget about the points, he'll come up with steals, BLOCKS, defensive rebounds and is a very good help defender. However, he is prone to jump shooters having a big game or two against him. Jamal Crawford used to light him up regularly for example.

Dude has definitely stepped it up on defense

 

[TimRock]

Re: D WADE for MVP thread

and for timrock, dwyane wade is averaging 20.8 FGAs in wins, and 22.6 FGAs in losses. a perfectly acceptable 8% variance.

Thanks for pointing that out. But I think Lebron will win it. His team is number 1 in the east and will most likely finish with home court throughout the east. They also have the best home record, and a great record against the west as well. The only thing that may play a factor is the cavs records against the top 4 teams in the league. But I think he will get it. If miami can get that 4th spot, Wade has a chance.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: D WADE for MVP thread

 

[daman200]

It crazy cause how can you not give it to Lebron he is also having a CRAZY YEAR.

The Nba needs to create two awards Best player and then a most valuable player award

 

[daman200]

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. (AP)—Dwyane Wade scored 39 points in the first 47 minutes Sunday. In the final minute, he turned into a defensive specialist.

Wade blocked two shots in the final 22 seconds and Udonis Haslem scored six points in the last 6.3 as the Miami Heat rallied for a 101-96 victory over the short-handed Detroit Pistons.

Detroit led for the first 3 1/2 quarters, and appeared ready to pull within a game of fifth-place Miami in the Eastern Conference standings, but Wade and Haslem made sure it didn’t happen.

“They were pounding us for three quarters and a half, but we finally got some key plays down the stretch,” Miami coach Erik Spoelstra said. “Dwyane was sensational—that’s what he’s been all year—and Udonis was great.”

Detroit was missing three key players—Richard Hamilton (groin), Rasheed Wallace (calf) and Allen Iverson (back)—but took a 96-95 lead on Walter Herrmann’s 3-point shot with 13 seconds left.

Mario Chalmers missed at the other end, but the rebound caromed long to Haslem, who drained a high-arcing jumper to put the Heat ahead.

“The ball went over everyone underneath and came out to me,” he said. “I didn’t know how much time was left, so I wanted to get it off quick.”

After a timeout, Rodney Stuckey drove for what could have been the game-winning shot, but Wade blocked the ball and then saved the rebound to Haslem, who was fouled by Antonio McDyess.

“I told Stuckey on the way out of the timeout that I knew they were to do that—I know his tendencies,” Wade said. “I stayed solid and didn’t get into his shot fakes, so I was able to get the block.”

Detroit coach Michael Curry loudly protested the lack of a foul on Stuckey’s play, and was ejected by Tony Brothers.

“We wanted Stuck to attack the basket, and that’s what he did,” Curry said. “I thought he was fouled on the play, and that’s what I was complaining about.”

Haslem then put the game away with four free throws—the two for Curry’s technicals and two for McDyess’ foul.

“We knew just what was at stake in this game,” Haslem said. “We knew how big it would be to get a win here.”

Detroit has lost four of five, despite having a chance for victory late in each game.

“This is four games we’ve given away at the end,” said Arron Afflalo, who had 13 points starting in the spot normally shared by Iverson and Hamilton. “We’ve got to find a way to pull these out.”

Stuckey led the Pistons with 24 points, while McDyess had 16 points and 12 rebounds.

After trailing since the game’s first basket, the Heat tied the score at 78 on Jamario Moon’s driving layup with 7:35 to play. Moments later, Spoelstra picked up a technical that started a quick 5-0 run for Detroit.

Wade’s fast-break dunk tied the score at 89 with 3 minutes left, but Jason Maxiell blocked O’Neal’s go-ahead slam attempt on Miami’s next possession.

After a Detroit miss, Stuckey fouled Wade, and his free throws gave Miami their first lead of the afternoon. Stuckey hit two free throws to tie it at 91, and the teams traded baskets to leave the game tied with a minute left.

O’Neal tipped in Haslem’s miss to put the Heat ahead 95-93, and Wade blocked Afflalo’s 3-point attempt, but Detroit retained possession and Herrmann’s 3 gave the Pistons their last lead.

The first half was a duel between Wade and Stuckey, who had missed Detroit’s previous game with flu-like symptoms. Wade won the individual battle, outscoring Stuckey 17-15, but the Pistons took a 47-43 lead at the break.

Wade scored another 14 points in the third, giving him 31, but his teammates only contributed 10 more, letting Detroit hang on to a 73-67 lead going into the fourth.
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JUST ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE

D.WADE FOR MVP

 

[daman200]

Man D.wade has had a great Season, But LEBRON RIGHT NOW

D.WADE has got to be before KOBE though.

D.wade has 100 blocks and 100 steals only player in the NBA with that this season.

Maybe he should get Defensive plaer but D.howard got that one on lock.

I can see the argument for Lebron best record in the league,40-1 at home. LEBRON is a Great Choice for Best player in the League.

But Most Valuable Player i still got go with WADE. 55 points SUNDAY!!

 

[daman200]

guys on Nba tV discussing it

 

[daman200]

Wade ‘still angry’ despite having career year

By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer 1 hour, 52 minutes ago

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MIAMI (AP)—Dwyane Wade will be the NBA’s scoring champion this season. He put up MVP-caliber numbers, ones that drew comparisons to Michael Jordan and Oscar Robertson. He was healthy. He was happy. And the Miami Heat are back in the playoffs.

So, Mr. Wade, your assessment of the regular season?

“I’m still angry,” Wade said.

He says this with a straight face, those around him waiting for a punch line that never comes.

A winning record, a scoring title, a career-high 55-point game on Sunday to punctuate the best on-the-court regular season of his life, and he’s not content?

“No,” Wade insists. “I still have something to prove.”

For as much as Wade has enjoyed his basketball revival, it’s clear he still hasn’t recovered from the descent off the game’s mountaintop.

Nearly three years have passed since Wade grabbed the last rebound in Dallas and took his spot with the Heat as NBA champions. He was a 24-year-old MVP of the final series.

His rise was rapid.

His fall, maybe faster.

It started not long after that title win in Dallas. Championship ring night was ruined by a 42-point loss to Chicago. The shoulder dislocation, then getting swept in the 2007 playoffs by the Bulls. Surgeries on his shoulder and knee. Miami’s freefall to the NBA cellar last season. The breakup of his locker room. The nasty divorce from his high school sweetheart.

No. 3 spent three years becoming a champion, and three years overcoming the string of problems that followed.

“You knew that he was really good, then he had his injuries, then everybody went ‘Oh, what about Dwyane?’ And then you found out he was really good,” said New York Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni, an assistant coach on the U.S. team at last summer’s Beijing Olympics, where Wade was the leading scorer for the gold-medal-winning Americans. “It’s remarkable how dedicated he must have been to come back. He came not all the way back, he’s probably even better than he ever was.”

The numbers support that theory.

Barring some statistical calamity, Wade will finish averaging career-highs in scoring (30.2), assists (7.5), steals (2.2) and blocked shots (1.3).

And his flair for the spectacular was never better, whether it was the 24-point fourth quarter to lead the Heat over the Knicks earlier this season, the 50-point, 10-rebound, nine-assist effort in a triple-overtime win over Utah, or the buzzer-beating 3-pointer in double overtime to beat the Bulls, prompting him to jump on the table where Heat owner Micky Arison sits and proclaim “This is my house.”

“I’ve got people in this locker room that look for me to do it,” Wade said. “People in this organization look for me to do it. As long as I play the game of basketball, I’m always going to have to prove that I can do it. They’re giving me an opportunity to do it. They believe in me and I want to live up to the bill.”

He’s the first player in NBA history to block more than 100 shots in a season and not be taller than 6-foot-4. And he made a total of 85 shots from 3-point range in his first five seasons, yet already hit 88 from beyond the arc this season, including a career-best six in that 55-point explosion against the Knicks on Sunday night.

Among active players, only Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and Tracy McGrady have scored more points in any season than Wade, who has 2,386 already this year, or nearly as many as he managed in the two injury-plagued seasons following the championship in 2006.

He probably won’t win the MVP award this season.

But in Miami, they’re calling him M-V-3, even making up a couple hundred T-shirts with that phrase to hype his MVP credentials.

“Arguably, you can call him the best 2-guard in the league,” Phoenix coach Alvin Gentry said. “He’s a great player and there was a lot of talk about him not getting back to form, and they’re right. He didn’t get back to form. He’s better.”

So why is he angry?

For a variety of reasons, many of which aren’t a factor on game nights.

Going back to his childhood, those impoverished days when his mother was spending time in prison, he’s always embraced the underdog, must-prove-something-to-someone role.

He was the fifth pick in the 2003 draft, behind James, Darko Milicic, Carmelo Anthony and Chris Bosh.

Wade used that as fuel.

The headline proclaiming the Heat as an “unworthy opponent” to Dallas in the 2006 finals?

Wade kept it the rest of that series.

The notion that he didn’t merit a spot on the 2008 Olympic team?

He led the U.S. in scoring.

Pundits picking Miami not to make the playoffs?

Wade proved all them wrong, too. The Heat will open the postseason at Atlanta this weekend against the Hawks.

“Keep doubting me,” Wade said. “Keep doubting us. Keep doubting our team. I like that.”

Perhaps the biggest reason for his scintillating season, though, is this: Basketball, now more than ever, is Wade’s sanctuary.

The divorce from his estranged wife Siohvaughn has stretched on for months. Wade doesn’t talk much about it, saying the issue is personal and private. But the war of words went public earlier this year when Siohvaughn Wade alleged in court documents her husband was having affairs, infected her with a sexually transmitted disease and ignored his children. Weeks later, she withdrew the claim from the court hearing the divorce case for unknown reasons—which doesn’t mean it wasn’t true, her attorneys said.

Dwyane Wade filed suit against her and her attorneys over those allegations anyway, saying he was defamed and embarrassed.

“When he’s on the court, it’s like he’s on vacation from all the other stuff going on,” said Heat forward Dorell Wright, one of Wade’s closest friends in the Miami locker room. “He goes out and proves everybody wrong.”

Along the way, so have the Heat.

Already 27 wins better than last season, Miami has put together one of the biggest one-season improvements in NBA history—and the best ever under a rookie head coach. And much in the same vein that coach Erik Spoelstra tries to defer much of the credit to players and the team’s front office, Wade is quick to say that he didn’t pull off this comeback season single-handedly.

“The goal for the year was to come back and make the playoffs,” Wade said. “That was accomplished when we got our 40th win and it’s all good. But at the same time, what’s sweet about it is there’s nobody that’s really satisfied because we can be a lot better. We know that. We feel it coming. I just hope we don’t run out of time before it happens.”

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Re: D WADE for MVP thread

^^^^^^^

 

[T_RED_86]

He takin his frustration out on the court cuz of what his ex-wife put him through but wade definitely deserves MVP.

 

[heiesuke]

This is silly, when Bron/Kobe were doing the same thing they'd have never won cuz their teams weren't in 1st or 2nd place. That's how u get the award, for having a winning team period.

 

[Killer_Tens07]

Man Lebron winning that shit stop hatin

 

[gene cisco]

This is silly, when Bron/Kobe were doing the same thing they'd have never won cuz their teams weren't in 1st or 2nd place. That's how u get the award, for having a winning team period.

That is what I have been saying. Some talking head comes up with this Wade shit just to have something to talk about. It is clear Lebron is MVP. The only reason it appears he has better help is cause he commands so much attention and can play more positions. You can go small or big with him.

What was West doing before Cleveland? Nobody wanted Joe Smith, but on the Cavs he is doing things. Mo Williams barely made the all star team. Gibson only can shoot. Z fits in perfect with lebron.

Lebron and Kobe did the wade b4 wade did the wade. What were cats in a coma when bron carried that lottery team to the finals in 07?

Take Lebron off this team and a 66 win team doesn't even make the playoffs in the East. Bron would have won 50 games with the team wade had(he did it b4 with those bad cavs teams)while the team only won like 43 with wade.

Bunch of skip bayless clones running around this country.