The most murderous country/nation ??

[neo_cacos]

The most murderous country / nation ?

NAME YOUR CANDITATE(S) AND OF COURSE, make sure to include the facts and anecdotes if you have any. I think we could all learn a little bit from this thread. Feel free to add to the list.

Here's the list:
1. US
2. G-BRITAIN (you can combine 1 and 2 if you want)
3. Spain (they are probably the cruelest though)
4. Portugal
5. Germany
6. France
7. Russia
8. Belgium
9. Italy
10... whichever i have forgotten.
11...whichever i have forgotten.

The scandinavian countries were too late on the slave trade, so I didn't inlcude any.

neo

 

[Agallah005]

Re: The most murderous country / nation ?

well, Europeans were the first to kill people on a global scale...but yeah, Germany killed the Jews, and others they felt were not aryan. Then we have our beautiful country, who kills you systematically, first they enslave you through bullshit wages. then they tell you that you can't get good health care. they keep fucking with you while trying to get an education(discrimination, hiking prices up, denying loans or fucking you with the loans, etc.) then they fuck with your livelyhood(Americans work more hours a damn day than any other country) and let's not get started with the Healthcare that we as Americans get that is just so perfect. Trust, America's tried some crazy shit in the past and would love to forget but they can't. I'd type more but my wrists hurt too much(Karpal kicking in already)

 

[gene cisco]

1. Israel---an abomination, the last version of colonialism on a very violent scale. Kills and terrorizes and is also accountable for our problems. Is the main problem in the middle east, thus creating a situation for world war 3...........and they shouldnt be there.

2. America-- although it started off good on paper......at least for white folks slavery, genocide against natives, jim crow, coups around the world and the latest chapter(2001-present) pushes it to the top. It treats its minority population as shitty and they are as powerless as any in any country.

3. England--guilt by association



Notice i have only named colonial powers.

4.Russia----they give us one of the most feared things in the world. Russian mob. Leaders in international arms dealing, that is murder. They reach far and wide.

This is off the top of my head, with further research I can name more.

 

[QueEx]

Re: The most murderous country / nation ?

The most murderous country / nation ?

Whats the criteria? Is this some fantasy/anti-popularity poll or is there some objective criteria that you're using, so that all countries are judged murderously equal?

QueEx

 

[neo_cacos]

Re: The most murderous country / nation ?

Whats the criteria? Is this some fantasy/anti-popularity poll or is there some objective criteria that you're using, so that all countries are judged murderously equal?

QueEx

1. The motivation: I have noticed that most of us seem to have a good grip on what happened to slaves brought to America. However, when it comes to other reprehensible behaviours perpetrated in other parts of Africa (NORTH, SOUTH and EAST, CENTRAL), we seem to be a bit less knowledgeable (me included).

2. The objective: To educate us on other atrocities committed (mainly against our people) that we may have been overlooked.

3. Quantitative Criteria:

- Estimated number of indigenous people murdered (Africans, Aztecs, Indians, etc.)
- The length of time during which those actions took place.

Qualitative criteria:
- How systematic and well – organized was the extermination process?
- The level of cruelty and disregard for human life
- Were these atrocities committed ‘war crime style’ or ‘ethnic cleansing’? etc.
The purpose is not a un-popularity contest, but an exercise that may give us a better perspective as to WHO did WHAT WHERE and to WHICH EXTENT??

For example:
If someone mentions Spain, well they have to account for what happened to the Aztecs, Germany (Namibia), Belgium (Congo)….etc.

NEO

 

[neo_cacos]

Belgium gets my vote...because the time span seems so short...
1885-1908. I am shaking my head as I'm writing this....Unbelievable!


Estimated : Over 10 Millions

I choose to post this link because it has some interesting other references also.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COMM.7.1.03.HTM

Here's another one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_II_of_Belgium

Let's not forget the mutilation. senseless killings and abuses...etc.

Somehow, all I ever hear about is the the jews, the jews, the jews...
Hmmm.....???


neo

 

[VegasGuy]

Through Abortion, the US.

Killing each other, South Africa.

-VG