The Growing Diversity of Black America

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The Growing Diversity of Black America
46.8 million people in the U.S. identify as Black

The Black population of the United States is diverse. Its members have varied histories in the nation – many are descendants of enslaved people, while others are recently arrived immigrants. The Black population also has nuanced ethnic and racial identities reflecting intermarriage and international migration. As a result, there are key distinctions in demographic and economic characteristics between different parts of the national Black population, highlighting its diverse multitude of backgrounds.
The U.S. Black population is also growing. In 2019, 46.8 million people in the U.S. identified their race as Black, either alone or as part of a multiracial or ethnic background. That is up from 36.2 million in 2000.1 The Black share of the U.S. population is higher today than in 2000 as well. About 14% of the national population said they were Black in 2019, up from 13% who did so in 2000.

At the same time, the Black population’s racial self-identification is changing. Among those who self-identify as “Black or African American,” the share who say it is their only racial or ethnic identification has declined over the past two decades. In 2019, 40.7 million, or 87%, identified their race as Black alone and their ethnicity as non-Hispanic, while around 3.7 million, or 8%, indicated their race was Black and another race (most often White) and not Hispanic. Another 2.4 million, or 5%, self-identified as both Black and Hispanic, or Black Hispanic.2But these shares have changed since 2000. Then, 93% identified their race and ethnicity as Black alone.

The nation’s Black population is changing in other ways too. A growing share are foreign born, the population is aging (though some segments are significantly younger), and a growing share are college graduates. These trends and more are explored in this report. Accompanying it is a fact sheet showing the demographic and economic characteristics of the nation’s Black population in 2019, based on the U.S. Census Bureau’s 2019 American Community Survey. Findings for all Black people, non-Hispanic single-race Black people, non-Hispanic multiracial Black people and Black Hispanics are shown separately. A downloadable spreadsheet of findings is also available.

Measuring racial and ethnic identity
Racial identity – as measured by the U.S. decennial census – has changed over time. The census has drastically changed since its first administration in 1790. Then, only two racial categories were included: free (which mostly included White people) and slaves (who were mostly enslaved Black people). The Census Bureau has modified terms used to refer to people of non-White racial identities throughout the years, in accordance with the politics and sensibilities of the times. For example, in the 2020 census, those who selected “Black or African American” as their race were asked to write more about their origins, reflecting a more nuanced understanding of Black racial identity. (For more about how racial and ethnic categories have changed over time, see “What Census Calls Us.”)

Today, decennial census and American Community Survey data is collected in a different manner than for most of the nation’s history. Respondents choose their racial response categories themselves. This was not true for over a century of censuses. Prior to 1960, one’s racial identification was selected by a census-taker – a Census Bureau employee who administered the survey on paper and chose a racial category on a person’s behalf. However, starting that year, some respondents could self-identify, or chose their own racial category. Self-identification was expanded in subsequent censuses to include virtually all respondents. Additionally, starting in 1980, census data included information from the entire population on Hispanic or Latino ethnic identity in addition to their racial identification.And the 2000 census marked the first time respondents were able to include themselves in more than one racial category; prior to that year, multiracial respondents could select only one racial category.
It’s important to note that racial and ethnic self-identification is highly personal and can change as one’s relationship with their identity changes. For example, an analysis of 168 million Americans’ census forms linked between 2000 and 2010 indicated that 10 million people identified their racial and/or ethnic background differently between the two census forms. Multiracial Americans were one of the population groups that were more likely to change their racial identification between the two decennial census years.

One-in-four Black people are members of Gen Z
The age structure of the Black population has also changed since 2000. As of 2019, the median age of single-race, non-Hispanic Black people is 35, compared with 30 in 2000. This makes the nation’s Black population younger than the nation’s single-race, non-Hispanic White population (with a median age of 43) and the single-race, non-Hispanic Asian population (38), and slightly older than the nation’s Hispanic population (29).

The median age for the entire Black population is 32, though it varies across the differing identities among the Black population. Among Black Hispanic people, it is 22 years. Meanwhile, multiracial Black people are the youngest group, with a median age of 16.

A quarter (25%) of those in the U.S. Black population are members of Generation Z – born between 1997 and 2012 and ages 7 to 22 in 2019. A further one-in-ten were under the age of 7 that year. Together, 35% of the U.S. Black population is age 22 or younger. Another 23% are Millennials, meaning that over half (59%) of the nation’s Black population were Millennials or younger (under age 38) in 2019.

The majority (63%) of multiracial Black people were age 22 or younger in 2019, reflecting the youth of this demographic subgroup. Roughly half (51%) of Black Hispanics were 22 or younger as well.

Over half of the Black population lives in the South
In 2019, the South was the region with the highest share of the country’s Black population, with 56% of this population living there. The Midwest and Northeast each held 17% of this population, while the West was home to one-tenth of the Black population.

Regionally, the share of the national Black population living in the South has grown. In 2000, over half (54%) of Black people in the U.S. lived in the South, a very similar share to 2019 (56%). Meanwhile, somewhat higher shares lived the Midwest and Northeast in 2000 than in 2019. Back then, 19% of the national Black population lived in the Midwest and 18% in the Northeast. Over the past two decades, the share of Black people living in Western states was unchanged, at 10%.

The growth of the Black population in the South suggests a departure from previous Black migration patterns. The first half of the 20th century featured increasing shares of the population residing in regions of the U.S. outside of the South, primarily after the start of the Great Migration in the late 1910s. Consequently, each decade featured decreasing shares of the Black population living in the South.

Starting in 1970, shares of the Black population who live in the South have grown. There has been a 4 percentage point increase in the shares of the Black population who live in the South between 1970 (52%) and 2019 (56%).

Texas has the largest Black state population

With more than 3.9 million Black people in 2019, Texas is home to the largest Black population in the U.S. Florida has the second largest population at 3.8 million, and Georgia is home to 3.6 million Black people. Other top states of residence include New York (3.4 million) and California (2.8 million). Together, these five states hold 37% of the national Black population.

Although the top five states of residence have remained the same for Black people as in 2000, the order shifted substantially, with New York and California dropping from the two largest to fourth and fifth in 2019. In 2000, New York (3.2 million), California, Texas, Florida (each 2.5 million) and Georgia (2.4 million) rounded out the top five, together holding 36% of the total Black population.

Top states of residence differ by racial subgroup. Among non-Hispanic single-race Black people, Texas has the largest population, followed by Georgia, Florida, New York and North Carolina. But among non-Hispanic multiracial Black people, the state with the largest population is California, followed by Texas, Florida, Ohio and New York. Among Black Hispanics, meanwhile, New York has the largest population, followed by Florida, California, Texas and New Jersey. Notably, Texas, New York and Florida make the top five for all subgroups.

The New York metropolitan area has the largest Black metropolitan population
The metropolitan area with greatest number of Black people is the New York metropolitan area, with roughly 3.8 million in 2019. The New York City area has been the top urban center since at least 2000 for Black people, though other metro areas are on the rise. In 2019, the Atlanta metropolitan area came in a distant second, with 2.2 million Black people, and the Washington, D.C., area was next, with 1.7 million. By comparison, in 2000, the Chicago metropolitan area had the second largest Black metro population and Atlanta had the fourth largest.


The New York City metropolitan area has the largest Black population across the three Black racial and ethnic subgroups, but the other top large metropolitan areas differ across categories. The list of top five metropolitan areas for those who say their racial identity is only Black is the same as it is for the Black population overall, reflecting their majority (87%) share of the population. However, the top metropolitan areas for multiracial Black people and Black Hispanics differ.

Besides New York City, the top urban centers for those identifying as multiracial Black are the Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, Philadelphia and Chicago metropolitan areas. By contrast, for Black Hispanics, Miami is second, followed by the Boston, Los Angeles and Philadelphia metro areas.

A growing share of Black adults have a college degree
The number of Black adults with a college degree or more education has more than doubled since 2000. That year, roughly 3 million Black adults ages 25 and older, or 15%, had earned at least a bachelor’s degree. That number grew to 6.7 million (23%) in 2019.

Notably, the share of the Black population with at least a college degree has risen at a similar rate to that of the general population. In 2000, roughly a quarter (24%) of the entire U.S. population ages 25 and older had a bachelor’s degree or higher. In 2019, that share rose to 33%, an increase of 9 percentage points. The share of Black adults who earned a bachelor’s degree or higher also grew nearly 9 points over the same time period, from 15% to 23%.

There has been a similar upward trend specifically among Black adults with a master’s degree or higher. While roughly 1 million Black adults in 2000 (5% of the population over 25) had an advanced degree, that number rose to almost 2.6 million, or 9% in 2019.

There were differences in educational attainment in 2019 among different subgroups of the Black population. Among these groups, the multiracial Black population has the highest shares of adults 25 and older with a bachelor’s degree (20%) and advanced degree (12%). Single-race Black adults and Black Hispanics 25 and older have similar, but lower, shares with a bachelor’s degree (14% and 15%, respectively) as well as an advanced degree (9% and 8%).

The share of Black adults 25 and older without a high school diploma (or its equivalent, such as a GED certificate) has dropped substantially – by more than half – since 2000. Then, roughly three-in-ten adults in that age range (28%) had not earned a high school diploma. In 2019, that share had dropped to 13%, signifying a 15 percentage point drop over almost two decades.

The Black immigrant population has grown in number and share
Immigrants are a part of the nation’s Black population that has grown over time. The foreign-born Black population has nearly doubled since 2000, rising from 7% then to 10% in 2019. In numbers, 2.4 million Black people were born in another country in 2000, and by 2019, that had risen to 4.6 million.

Black immigrants are mostly from just two regions of the world. Almost nine-in-ten (88%) were born in African or Caribbean countries.
Of that group, a little less than half (46%) were born in Caribbean nations, while a slightly lower share (42%) are from African countries. The remaining 12% of Black immigrants are from other parts of the world, with Guyana, Mexico and Honduras as the top three countries of origin.

The majority of Black immigrants identify as single-race Black (87%) and non-Hispanic, while 10% identify as Black and Hispanic and 3% say their racial background is multiracial.

Black household incomes since 2000
Since 2000, the U.S. Black population has not seen significant increases in median household income. The median income for households headed by a Black person was $44,000 in 2019 (before the COVID-19 pandemic-induced recession). But household income of Black households varies. Roughly three-in-ten Black households (29%) made less than $25,000 in 2019, while a quarter earned between $25,000 and $49,999 – which means that more than half (54%) of Black households made less than $50,000 in 2019. About one-in-six Black households (17%) made $50,000 but below $75,000, 10% earned at least $75,000 but less than $100,000, and 18% earned $100,000 or more in 2019.

The 2019 shares represent an improvement over the distribution of Black household income in 2000. That year, roughly six-in-ten (61%) Black-headed households made $25,000 or less (in 2019 U.S. dollar adjusted value), and more than a quarter (27%) made between $25,000 and $49,999, meaning that 88% of Black households earned less than $50,000 in 2000. In that same year, roughly one-in-ten Black households (11%) made at least $50,000 but less than $100,000, and 2% made $100,000 or more.
The median income among Black households in 2019 was roughly $44,000, representing a slight inflation-adjusted increase over the median household income for Black people in 2000 ($43,581)
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Income inequality within the Black population remains one of the widest within a major racial or ethnic group. In 2019, Black-headed households with income in the 90th percentile among the population of Black households earned 14 times that of Black households with income in the 10th percentile. The 90th percentile of households in the overall 2019 population, by contrast, earned 12 times that of households with incomes in the 10th percentile.


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Do you see anything significant? I see the age factor as being one (especially as compared to BGOL), with one-in-four being Gen Z. I'm curious as to whether the growth in Black Hispanics is primarily due to immigration, birth rates, or more Hispanics declaring themselves to be Black Hispanics.

I see the "reverse migration" back to the South as being a key political factor in the coming years. We've already seen that in Georgia. However, some of these majority-Black Southern cities are also gentrifying, which is occurring in Atlanta (and Richmond, VA), amongst other places.
 
Do you see anything significant? I see the age factor as being one (especially as compared to BGOL), with one-in-four being Gen Z. I'm curious as to whether the growth in Black Hispanics is primarily due to immigration, birth rates, or more Hispanics declaring themselves to be Black Hispanics.

I see the "reverse migration" back to the South as being a key political factor in the coming years. We've already seen that in Georgia. However, some of these majority-Black Southern cities are also gentrifying, which is occurring in Atlanta (and Richmond, VA), amongst other places.


The numbers speak for themselves. Texas and California black men are having kids with Latinas. California is so bad that most young black men in the Bay area are in interracial relationships.

Gentrification as you see is nothing but white people trying to put themselves in the middle of our economic growth while dictating terms of our every day lives.

Black people are very valuable commodities when it comes to labor, consumerism and economic growth. When we left the south the south became poor and the reverse is happening now.

We are both the producer and the consumer but not the administrative/regulator/management.

Whites are in the muddle of a drug epidemic that is making small town America damn near useless for labor purposes. Black/Mexican labor are whats keeps the American economy afloat.

It becoming clear as day that we are what power the American economy. Immigrants dont because a good portion of their money will probably be invested back home. White people invest in places like Asia and India. Black spend 98% of our money domestically. So our importance is apparently.

The south is our power base. But the white propaganda machine rather see Blacks with lesser roots in the community be the face of black America. Its one of the main reasons the music industry pushed West Coast music (mass violence) and East Coast artist (gay/Puffy/Clive Owen) to push these adgendas.

Thats why making Atlanta gay is so important to the powers that be. Once the media capital of black America shifted from NYC to ATL the gays that run the music industry jumped in to gain the soft influence that the black music industry has worldwide..

The goal is always to put black face on white propaganda. And using mixed kids has always been a tool of that since slavery (house niggas) to Barak Obama. Self hateihas a big oart in that, but kids have to be brainwashed by media or raised in a white situation to believe that.
 
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One thing I know to be 100% is that BGOL is not indicative of the general black population. I've never seen so many 6 figure, anti-wallstreet, anti-marriage, bad bitch having, still loving Pinky, house flipping, pro-feminist while poroozing a porn site black folk in my life. Lol!!

Enuf said!!
 
One thing I know to be 100% is that BGOL is not indicative of the general black population. I've never seen so many 6 figure, anti-wallstreet, anti-marriage, bad bitch having, still loving Pinky, house flipping, pro-feminist while poroozing a porn site black folk in my life. Lol!!

Well, the stuntin' and frontin' has been a part of this forum from the beginning. It's a part of other black forums like the Coli and Lipstick Alley too. But the main issue here is that the board members are older without younger people joining.
 
The numbers speak for themselves. Texas and California black men are having kids with Latinas. California is so bad that most young black men in the Bay area are in interracial relationships.

Gentrification as you see is nothing but white people trying to put themselves in the middle of our economic growth while dictating terms of our every day lives.

Black people are very valuable commodities when it comes to labor, consumerism and economic growth. When we left the south the south became poor and the reverse is happening now.

We are both the producer and the consumer but not the administrative/regulator/management.

Whites are in the muddle of a drug epidemic that is making small town America damn near useless for labor purposes. Black/Mexican labor are whats keeps the American economy afloat.

It becoming clear as day that we are what power the American economy. Immigrants dont because a good portion of their money will probably be invested back home. White people invest in places like Asia and India. Black spend 98% of our money domestically. So our importance is apparently.

The south is our power base. But the white propaganda machine rather see Blacks with lesser roots in the community be the face of black America. Its one of the main reasons the music industry pushed West Coast music (mass violence) and East Coast artist (gay/Puffy/Clive Owen) to push these adgendas.

Thats why making Atlanta gay is so important to the powers that be. Once the media capital of black America shifted from NYC to ATL the gays that run the music industry jumped in to gain the soft influence that the black music industry has worldwide..

The goal is always to put black face on white propaganda. And using mixed kids has always been a tool of that since slavery (house niggas) to Barak Obama. Self hateihas a big oart in that, but kids have to be brainwashed by media or raised in a white situation to believe that.
you had me up until the gay agenda stuff :smh: :smh: :smh:
 
you had me up until the gay agenda stuff :smh: :smh: :smh:

Can't necessarily say he's wrong. It may be kind of "tin-foil hat", but there's a lot of "gay" in the entertainment coming out of ATL entertainment, and you see it in RHOA and rappers like Young Thug and Lil Nas X.

In general, think about the music and entertainment that's come out of Atlanta over the past 20 years: trap, strip club, crunk, gay, RHOA, L&HH ATL, et al. Harlem Renaissance it ain't!!
 
One thing I know to be 100% is that BGOL is not indicative of the general black population. I've never seen so many 6 figure, anti-wallstreet, anti-marriage, bad bitch having, still loving Pinky, house flipping, pro-feminist while poroozing a porn site black folk in my life. Lol!!

Where does Pinky factor into this?
 
Can't necessarily say he's wrong. It may be kind of "tin-foil hat", but there's a lot of "gay" in the entertainment coming out of ATL entertainment, and you see it in RHOA and rappers like Young Thug and Lil Nas X.

In general, think about the music and entertainment that's come out of Atlanta over the past 20 years: trap, strip club, crunk, gay, RHOA, L&HH ATL, et al. Harlem Renaissance it ain't!!

dude homosexuals exist....they've always existed and have been a major part of most civilizations and societies you can think of...so this shit is a rerun....anyone who grew up thru the 70s and 80s with the androgynist period and that drip drip chemical soft look and dudes wearing make up... from From Bowie to MJ to glam rock and prince that shits ALWAYS been there...and cats were saying the exact same thing 40 years ago about some gay agenda....no change no worse degree now than it was then. So unless theres a direct line between the gay agenda and white supremacy then its a distraction to the economic issues of the black community.
 
This is some good data. One of my main takeaways in regards to all of those bodys in the south is to make sure that we are leveraging our votes to help us. Not other groups or minorities or institutions, us.
Numbers arent shit if you dont control the real estate you're on. Looking at you South Africa..
 
The numbers speak for themselves. Texas and California black men are having kids with Latinas. California is so bad that most young black men in the Bay area are in interracial relationships.

Gentrification as you see is nothing but white people trying to put themselves in the middle of our economic growth while dictating terms of our every day lives.

Black people are very valuable commodities when it comes to labor, consumerism and economic growth. When we left the south the south became poor and the reverse is happening now.

We are both the producer and the consumer but not the administrative/regulator/management.

Whites are in the muddle of a drug epidemic that is making small town America damn near useless for labor purposes. Black/Mexican labor are whats keeps the American economy afloat.

It becoming clear as day that we are what power the American economy. Immigrants dont because a good portion of their money will probably be invested back home. White people invest in places like Asia and India. Black spend 98% of our money domestically. So our importance is apparently.

The south is our power base. But the white propaganda machine rather see Blacks with lesser roots in the community be the face of black America. Its one of the main reasons the music industry pushed West Coast music (mass violence) and East Coast artist (gay/Puffy/Clive Owen) to push these adgendas.

Thats why making Atlanta gay is so important to the powers that be. Once the media capital of black America shifted from NYC to ATL the gays that run the music industry jumped in to gain the soft influence that the black music industry has worldwide..

The goal is always to put black face on white propaganda. And using mixed kids has always been a tool of that since slavery (house niggas) to Barak Obama. Self hateihas a big oart in that, but kids have to be brainwashed by media or raised in a white situation to believe that.
This is good stuff my dude.
 
dude homosexuals exist....they've always existed and have been a major part of most civilizations and societies you can think of...so this shit is a rerun....anyone who grew up thru the 70s and 80s with the androgynist period and that drip drip chemical soft look and dudes wearing make up... from From Bowie to MJ to glam rock and prince that shits ALWAYS been there...and cats were saying the exact same thing 40 years ago about some gay agenda....no change no worse degree now than it was then. So unless theres a direct line between the gay agenda and white supremacy then its a distraction to the economic issues of the black community.
Name the gay cartoon characters of the 80s, name all the tv shows with gay characters from the 80s, name all the popular gay movies from the 80s.. now do the same for the 2000s and ull notice a complete difference and push
 
But the main issue here is that the board members are older without younger people joining.

Because older members are boomers and they are not good teachers or leaders. They tend to pile on the youth for acceptance, dont groom successors, and try to be "King forever". BGOL is a reflection of that. The board desperately needs new blood and an injection of youth and new ideas. Old niggas up here live in the past.
 
This is a huge issue within our community. Businesses, schools, etc fail in our community because of the fear of passing on information and having the new generation take over.

This is the primary reason black civil rights as well a black politicians have been so stagnant.

It is a boomer trait. Most boomers were empowered by the generation before them to go further than them. Many boomers had parents that didnt graduate high school but they went to college or were afforded opportunities that generation never received. They havent reciprocated that to the next generation and instead focus on acceptance and maintaining their status til death.
 
Great information and yes blacks are moving back to the south in numbers. The pandemic helped speed that shit up....
 
Name the gay cartoon characters of the 80s, name all the tv shows with gay characters from the 80s, name all the popular gay movies from the 80s.. now do the same for the 2000s and ull notice a complete difference and push
Snuggle puss...curly Joe from the 3 stooges..liberace...Jody from soap..:giggle:

The bottom line is unless you believe you can be influenced to be gay then you don't have anything to worry about.
 
Snuggle puss...curly Joe from the 3 stooges..liberace...Jody from soap..:giggle:

The bottom line is unless you believe you can be influenced to be gay then you don't have anything to worry about.
Lil boys shouldn’t see he-man tonguing down skeletor period... big bird shouldn’t be prancing around telling Oscar the grouch that’s my song and trying to twerk.. liono should not be a cross dressing tranny going thunder cats hoe with a twan voice.. none of this happened in the 80s yet these new cartoons and puppets have characters like that
 
Lil boys shouldn’t see he-man tonguing down skeletor period... big bird shouldn’t be prancing around telling Oscar the grouch that’s my song and trying to twerk.. liono should not be a cross dressing tranny going thunder cats hoe with a twan voice.. none of this happened in the 80s yet these new cartoons and puppets have characters like that
when have you seen homosexual relations in a kids cartoon?? And as far as cross dressing is concerned men in drag or acting gay isn't some new thing that started in the 21st century... and lets be specific here the issue is gay men not overall homosexuality. We see lesbian shit all the time and as long as their pretty females and act TOO butchy NO ONE complains...so your worried about your son being influenced but not your daughter :rolleyes:

In any case what does any of this have to do with white supremacy and its detrimental effects on the black community?? Seeing as how white men are as paranoid about the gay agenda as black men are....
 
when have you seen homosexual relations in a kids cartoon?? And as far as cross dressing is concerned men in drag or acting gay isn't some new thing that started in the 21st century... and lets be specific here the issue is gay men not overall homosexuality. We see lesbian shit all the time and as long as their pretty females and act TOO butchy NO ONE complains...so your worried about your son being influenced but not your daughter :rolleyes:

In any case what does any of this have to do with white supremacy and its detrimental effects on the black community?? Seeing as how white men are as paranoid about the gay agenda as black men are....
There’s a few cross dressing kids in cartoons.. I personally don’t watch modern shit and definitely not cartoons but there have been articles about it and parents I know that have talked about it... hell various comic book heroes are gay now and doing shit together.. hell in the upcoming marvel movie eternals 1 of them will be a fag.. like I said gay characters are on the uprise in children material... always remember they will show a bare mans ass in movies and not make it rated r but will ban or deny showing female ass or thong shots without it being a higher adult rating
 
There’s a few cross dressing kids in cartoons.. I personally don’t watch modern shit and definitely not cartoons but there have been articles about it and parents I know that have talked about it... hell various comic book heroes are gay now and doing shit together.. hell in the upcoming marvel movie eternals 1 of them will be a fag.. like I said gay characters are on the uprise in children material... always remember they will show a bare mans ass in movies and not make it rated r but will ban or deny showing female ass or thong shots without it being a higher adult rating
still haven't connected it to white supremacy
 
I was responding to you about not believing there was a gay agenda.. outside of that i Colin Powell the original convo
I hear blacks talk about a gay agenda in the exact same way cacs talk about a black agenda... in the cartoons the uptick in movies and tv shows the influence on the youth etc etc...word for word just change out fag for nigga and its the same argument. and when black people start sounding like a dyed in the wool cacs..something went wrong somewhere.
 
I hear blacks talk about a gay agenda in the exact same way cacs talk about a black agenda... in the cartoons the uptick in movies and tv shows the influence on the youth etc etc...word for word just change out fag for nigga and its the same argument. and when black people start sounding like a dyed in the wool cacs..something went wrong somewhere.
Various things I said a decade ago or more on here has come true in many ways on diff topics.. this was 1 of them.. even subjects you were trying to argue with me about yrs ago your opinion has changed completely and did a 180.. 1 of the topics were about independent routes and having diff platforms that you don’t need to rely on majors.. you use to go against my arguments thinking you needed majors..than completely changed your tone so much that you even started your own YouTube channel.. this is another subject you shouldn’t try to argue with me about.. just like various subjects I have upfront and personal dealings to tell you I’m speaking from experience.. I’ve been around certain platforms and there’s a big Jew/gay agenda behind them.. that’s why people get punished speaking against them both(lot of times they are both the same).. u’ll know who has control and what they push and deny onto masses.. the agenda is real.. never try to put black people and cacs on the same boat.. they have agendas and always will..they have the power to actually push their agendas.. blacks talking is diff than cacs walking..always remember that
 
Various things I said a decade ago or more on here has come true in many ways on diff topics.. this was 1 of them.. even subjects you were trying to argue with me about yrs ago your opinion has changed completely and did a 180.. 1 of the topics were about independent routes and having diff platforms that you don’t need to rely on majors.. you use to go against my arguments thinking you needed majors..than completely changed your tone so much that you even started your own YouTube channel.. this is another subject you shouldn’t try to argue with me about.. just like various subjects I have upfront and personal dealings to tell you I’m speaking from experience.. I’ve been around certain platforms and there’s a big Jew/gay agenda behind them.. that’s why people get punished speaking against them both(lot of times they are both the same).. u’ll know who has control and what they push and deny onto masses.. the agenda is real.. never try to put black people and cacs on the same boat.. they have agendas and always will..they have the power to actually push their agendas.. blacks talking is diff than cacs walking..always remember that
10 years ago there was no youtube or it wasn't the force it is today. And the internet has been coopted to a certain degree in any case. Granted you get waay more exposure in a way couldn't in the 90s and early 00s but to get on the world stage you still have to go thru the big boys..which has now become streaming. Your argument of independence isn't new...I mean people been talking about that when it was 4-walling, and selling tapes out of the back of your trunk and small chitlin circuits but that was extremely limited for that time. Times changed and so did my viewpoint.

As far as the "agenda" talk goes. Heres a question..if you had the power and leverage would you shut gays down? how and why?

and you or anyone STILL haven't linked white supremacy and the gay agenda...
 
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10 years ago there was no youtube or it wasn't the force it is today. And the internet has been coopted a certain degree in any case. Granted you get exposure in a way couldn't in the 90s and early 00s but to get on the world stage you still have to go thru the big boys..which has now become streaming. Your argument of independence isn't new...I mean people been talking about when it was 4-walling, and selling tapes out of the back of your trunk and small chitlin circuits but that was extremely limited for that time. Times changed and so did my viewpoint.

As far as the "agenda" talk goes. Heres a question..if you had the power and leverage would you shut gays down? how and why?
YouTube been around and there was various other formats.. MySpace, Facebook, etc.. streaming, social media, cameras, consumers all these things were around over a decade ago.. so even than independent still was capable.. it’s why I use to say yes to independent and say majors weren’t a necessity... in general people find out later more than sooner about tools and capabilities that people have access to.... what do you mean if I had the power and leverage to shut gays down would I?.. do you mean gay people in general or certain individuals that are certain levels pushing agendas in society that are negative overall? If you are talking about the latter of course I would
 
YouTube been around and there was various other formats.. MySpace, Facebook, etc.. streaming, social media, cameras, consumers all these things were around over a decade ago.. so even than independent still was capable.. it’s why I use to say yes to independent and say majors weren’t a necessity... in general people find out later more than sooner about tools and capabilities that people have access to.... what do you mean if I had the power and leverage to shut gays down would I?.. do you mean gay people in general or certain individuals that are certain levels pushing agendas in society that are negative overall? If you are talking about the latter of course I would
The degree of exposure then vs now is totally different. also even tho some people were able to find mainstream success on those platforms a decade ago didn't mean then and (really doesn't mean today) those are sure fire roads to mainstream success. For every one person who breaks thru to mainstream success on social media theres literally hundreds of thousands who are hustling just as hard and they never will. Its like anything else in entertainment..everyone wants to be a rock star or rapper but theres only a small few that get to that level and the circle isn't that much bigger for people who can actually make a sustainable living doin it.

As for the "agenda" I meant in general... but how would you shut down individuals who are pushing certain agendas?
 
The degree of exposure then vs now is totally different. also even tho some people were able to find mainstream success on those platforms a decade ago didn't mean then and (really doesn't mean today) those are sure fire roads to mainstream success. For every one person who breaks thru to mainstream success on social media theres literally hundreds of thousands who are hustling just as hard and they never will. Its like anything else in entertainment..everyone wants to be a rock star or rapper but theres only a small few that get to that level and the circle isn't that much bigger for people who can actually make a sustainable living doin it.

As for the "agenda" I meant in general... but how would you shut down individuals who are pushing certain agendas?
MySpace had 10s to hundreds of millions of people on it , so did Facebook.. back in the days I told people to use YouTube to run commercials, trailers, etc on them to promote product/ service.. a decade ago people still had cell phones which means text messaging could easily be use to mass promote.. a decade ago people were using DVD players/ etc.. you could cop a DVD burner/cd burner that could mass produce dvds(at least 10 in less than 7 mins) for about 1000-1100 bucks.. email addy, text message, social media, YouTube , world star hip hop as well as other platforms to promote, push, sell your product/ service.. I actually help push certain independent individuals yrs ago using these outlets back than.. they weren’t even thinking big time but were still able to make nice money.. like I said platforms were there.. in certain cases you prob could’ve generated more money back than due to less competition and less people with the know how.. when new formats are introduced most people aren’t smart enough to get on board and the first 1 to hop on the gravy train are the 1s that are able to usually capitalize the most.. it’s why certain individuals on YouTube who are the top earners have damn near a decade worth of material.. lot of the YouTube millionaires have been on that platform for over a decade.. you see the first to see the light gets the highest residual.. it’s always like that nothing changed..just the late comers finding out about the money-making potential when it’s way more competition.. so when people like you were arguing with me a decade ago not believing in independence those same you tubers were pushing content and expanding their portfolio

As far as your last sentence goes you were talking in hypothetical so there’s only 1 way to stop individuals with negative agendas that effect the masses..I’ll let you figure that 1 out
 
MySpace had 10s to hundreds of millions of people on it , so did Facebook.. back in the days I told people to use YouTube to run commercials, trailers, etc on them to promote product/ service.. a decade ago people still had cell phones which means text messaging could easily be use to mass promote.. a decade ago people were using DVD players/ etc.. you could cop a DVD burner/cd burner that could mass produce dvds(at least 10 in less than 7 mins) for about 1000-1100 bucks.. email addy, text message, social media, YouTube , world star hip hop as well as other platforms to promote, push, sell your product/ service.. I actually help push certain independent individuals yrs ago using these outlets back than.. they weren’t even thinking big time but were still able to make nice money.. like I said platforms were there.. in certain cases you prob could’ve generated more money back than due to less competition and less people with the know how.. when new formats are introduced most people aren’t smart enough to get on board and the first 1 to hop on the gravy train are the 1s that are able to usually capitalize the most.. it’s why certain individuals on YouTube who are the top earners have damn near a decade worth of material.. lot of the YouTube millionaires have been on that platform for over a decade.. you see the first to see the light gets the highest residual.. it’s always like that nothing changed..just the late comers finding out about the money-making potential when it’s way more competition.. so when people like you were arguing with me a decade ago not believing in independence those same you tubers were pushing content and expanding their portfolio
mainstream success and indy success are two different levels..can a person make a living going indy yes but is that on the level of mainstream exposure and distribution..no its just not. Theres a reason why you keep seeing people who have indy success sign on with major networks and studios and labels. Or get bought out by Facebook and amazon etc. Look at Oculus VR..it started out as a VR tech start up on kickstarter and people were so enthused by the device they created and wanted to see an indy company grow, they DONATED over 2 million...then based on that thru VCs Oculus was able to raise another 90 million...then they sold out to face book for 2 billion pissing off many of their KS donors who said things like:

“I felt a little used, I guess,” says Schulte, a 46-year-old gaming enthusiast in California who has backed many projects on Kickstarter. “Maybe I was naive. I thought it was more just like someone doing it for a hobby and just wanted to do something fun for the community. I didn’t know it was going to turn into a $2 billion deal.”

What we were talking in those past debates was using the indy route to get on the same level as mainstream and still retain control. You can be an indy record label and have millions of followers and make a living at it but Trustus Records is never going to compete on the same level as WB or Columbia..thats just the reality and you know this.

As far as your last sentence goes you were talking in hypothetical so there’s only 1 way to stop individuals with negative agendas that effect the masses..I’ll let you figure that 1 out
now you left it pretty vague to give yourself some wiggle room but if your talking violence or suppression of any kind then that sounds cac like to me... :smh:
 
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