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<font face="arial Black" size="6" color="#D90000">&quot;The Final Word Is Hooray!&quot;</font>
<font face="tahoma" size="4" color="#0000FF"><strong>Remembering the </strong><strong>Iraq</strong><strong> War's Pollyanna pundits</strong></font>

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<strong>March 15th 2006</strong>
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Weeks after the invasion of Iraq began, Fox News Channel host Brit Hume delivered a scathing speech critiquing the media's supposedly pessimistic assessment of the Iraq War.

&quot;The majority of the American media who were in a position to comment upon the progress of the war in the early going, and even after that, got it wrong,&quot; Hume complained in the April 2003 speech (Richmond Times Dispatch, 4/25/04). &quot;They didn't get it just a little wrong. They got it completely wrong.&quot;

Hume was perhaps correct--but almost entirely in the opposite sense. Days or weeks into the war, commentators and reporters made premature declarations of victory, offered predictions about lasting political effects and called on the critics of the war to apologize. Three years later, the Iraq War grinds on at the cost of at least tens of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.

Around the same time as Hume's speech, syndicated columnist Cal Thomas declared (4/16/03): &quot;All of the printed and voiced prophecies should be saved in an archive. When these false prophets again appear, they can be reminded of the error of their previous ways and at least be offered an opportunity to recant and repent. Otherwise, they will return to us in another situation where their expertise will be acknowledged, or taken for granted, but their credibility will be lacking.&quot;

Gathered here are some of the most notable media comments from the early days of the Iraq War.


<font size="4"><b>Declaring Victory</b></font>

&quot;Iraq Is All but Won; Now What?&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Los Angeles Times headline, 4/10/03) </strong></font>

&quot;Now that the combat phase of the war in Iraq is officially over, what begins is a debate throughout the entire U.S. government over America's unrivaled power and how best to use it.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(CBS reporter Joie Chen, 5/4/03)</strong></font>

&quot;Congress returns to Washington this week to a world very different from the one members left two weeks ago. The war in Iraq is essentially over and domestic issues are regaining attention.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(NPR's Bob Edwards, 4/28/03) </strong></font>

&quot;Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics' complaints.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Fox News Channel's Tony Snow, 4/13/03)</strong></font>

&quot;The only people who think this wasn't a victory are Upper Westside liberals, and a few people here in Washington.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Charles Krauthammer, Inside Washington, WUSA-TV, 4/19/03) </strong>
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&quot;We had controversial wars that divided the country. This war united the country and brought the military back.&quot;
<strong><font color="#0000FF">(Newsweek's Howard Fineman--MSNBC, 5/7/03) </font> </strong>

&quot;We're all neo-cons now.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)</strong></font>

&quot;The war was the hard part. The hard part was putting together a coalition, getting 300,000 troops over there and all their equipment and winning. And it gets easier. I mean, setting up a democracy is hard, but it is not as hard as winning a war.&quot;
<strong><font color="#0000FF">(Fox News Channel's Fred Barnes, 4/10/03)
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&quot;Oh, it was breathtaking. I mean I was almost starting to think that we had become inured to everything that we'd seen of this war over the past three weeks; all this sort of saturation. And finally, when we saw that it was such a just true, genuine expression. It was reminiscent, I think, of the fall of the Berlin Wall. And just sort of that pure emotional expression, not choreographed, not stage-managed, the way so many things these days seem to be. Really breathtaking.&quot;
<strong>(<font color="#0000FF">Washington Post reporter Ceci Connolly, appearing on Fox News Channel on 4/9/03, discussing the pulling down of a Saddam Hussein statue in Baghdad, an event later revealed to have been a U.S. military PSYOPS operation--Los Angeles Times, 7/3/04)</font></strong>

<font size="4"><b>Mission Accomplished?</b></font>

&quot;The war winds down, politics heats up.... Picture perfect. Part Spider-Man, part Tom Cruise, part Ronald Reagan. The president seizes the moment on an aircraft carrier in the Pacific.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(PBS's Gwen Ifill, 5/2/03, on George W. Bush's &quot;Mission Accomplished&quot; speech) </strong>
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&quot;We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like Clinton or even like Dukakis or Mondale, all those guys, McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits.&quot;
<strong>(<font color="#0000FF">MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 5/1/03) </font> </strong>

&quot;He looked like an alternatively commander in chief, rock star, movie star, and one of the guys.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(CNN's Lou Dobbs, on Bush's 'Mission Accomplished' speech, 5/1/03) </strong>
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<font size="4"><b>Neutralizing the Opposition</b></font>

&quot;Why don't the damn Democrats give the president his day? He won today. He did well today.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)</strong></font>

&quot;What's he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war went too well and it's over? I mean, don't these things sort of lose their--Isn't there a fresh date on some of these debate points?&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(MSNBC's Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean--4/9/03)</strong></font>

&quot;If image is everything, how can the Democratic presidential hopefuls compete with a president fresh from a war victory?&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(CNN's Judy Woodruff, 5/5/03) </strong></font>

&quot;It is amazing how thorough the victory in Iraq really was in the broadest context..... And the silence, I think, is that it's clear that nobody can do anything about it. There isn't anybody who can stop him. The Democrats can't oppose--cannot oppose him politically.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Washington Post reporter Jeff Birnbaum-- Fox News Channel, 5/2/03) </strong>
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<font size="4"><b>Nagging the &quot;Naysayers&quot;</b></font>

&quot;Now that the war in Iraq is all but over, should the people in Hollywood who opposed the president admit they were wrong?&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Fox News Channel's Alan Colmes, 4/25/03) </strong></font>

&quot;I doubt that the journalists at the New York Times and NPR or at ABC or at CNN are going to ever admit just how wrong their negative pronouncements were over the past four weeks.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/9/03)</strong></font>

&quot;I'm waiting to hear the words 'I was wrong' from some of the world's most elite journalists, politicians and Hollywood types.... I just wonder, who's going to be the first elitist to show the character to say: 'Hey, America, guess what? I was wrong'? Maybe the White House will get an apology, first, from the New York Times' Maureen Dowd. Now, Ms. Dowd mocked the morality of this war....

&quot;Do you all remember Scott Ritter, you know, the former chief U.N. weapons inspector who played chief stooge for Saddam Hussein? Well, Mr. Ritter actually told a French radio network that -- quote, 'The United States is going to leave Baghdad with its tail between its legs, defeated.' Sorry, Scott. I think you've been chasing the wrong tail, again.

&quot;Maybe disgraced commentators and politicians alike, like Daschle, Jimmy Carter, Dennis Kucinich, and all those others, will step forward tonight and show the content of their character by simply admitting what we know already: that their wartime predictions were arrogant, they were misguided and they were dead wrong. Maybe, just maybe, these self-anointed critics will learn from their mistakes. But I doubt it. After all, we don't call them 'elitists' for nothing.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 4/10/03) </strong></font>

&quot;Over the next couple of weeks when we find the chemical weapons this guy was amassing, the fact that this war was attacked by the left and so the right was so vindicated, I think, really means that the left is going to have to hang its head for three or four more years.&quot;
<strong><font color="#0000FF">(Fox News Channel's Dick Morris, 4/9/03)</font> </strong>

&quot;This has been a tough war for commentators on the American left. To hope for defeat meant cheering for Saddam Hussein. To hope for victory meant cheering for President Bush. The toppling of Mr. Hussein, or at least a statue of him, has made their arguments even harder to defend. Liberal writers for ideologically driven magazines like The Nation and for less overtly political ones like The New Yorker did not predict a defeat, but the terrible consequences many warned of have not happened. Now liberal commentators must address the victory at hand and confront an ascendant conservative juggernaut that asserts United States might can set the world right.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(New York Times reporter David Carr, 4/16/03) </strong></font>

&quot;Well, the hot story of the week is victory.... The Tommy Franks-Don Rumsfeld battle plan, war plan, worked brilliantly, a three-week war with mercifully few American deaths or Iraqi civilian deaths.... There is a lot of work yet to do, but all the naysayers have been humiliated so far.... The final word on this is, hooray.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Fox News Channel's Morton Kondracke, 4/12/03) </strong></font>

&quot;Some journalists, in my judgment, just can't stand success, especially a few liberal columnists and newspapers and a few Arab reporters.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(CNN's Lou Dobbs, 4/14/03)</strong> </font>

&quot;Sean Penn is at it again. The Hollywood star takes out a full-page ad out in the New York Times bashing George Bush. Apparently he still hasn't figured out we won the war.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, 5/30/03)</strong></font>

<font size="4"><b>Cakewalk? </b></font>

&quot;This will be no war -- there will be a fairly brief and ruthless military intervention.... The president will give an order. [The attack] will be rapid, accurate and dazzling.... It will be greeted by the majority of the Iraqi people as an emancipation. And I say, bring it on.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Christopher Hitchens, in a 1/28/03 debate-- cited in the Observer, 3/30/03)</strong>
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&quot;I will bet you the best dinner in the gaslight district of San Diego that military action will not last more than a week. Are you willing to take that wager?&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1/29/03) </strong></font>

&quot;It won't take weeks. You know that, professor. Our military machine will crush Iraq in a matter of days and there's no question that it will.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03) </strong></font>

&quot;There's no way. There's absolutely no way. They may bomb for a matter of weeks, try to soften them up as they did in Afghanistan. But once the United States and Britain unleash, it's maybe hours. They're going to fold like that.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 2/10/03) </strong></font>

&quot;He [Saddam Hussein] actually thought that he could stop us and win the debate worldwide. But he didn't--he didn't bargain on a two- or three week war. I actually thought it would be less than two weeks.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(NBC reporter Fred Francis, Chris Matthews Show, 4/13/03) </strong>
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<font size="4"><b>Weapons of Mass Destruction </b></font>

NPR's Mara Liasson: Where there was a debate about whether or not Iraq had these weapons of mass destruction and whether we can find it...

Brit Hume: No, there wasn't. Nobody seriously argued that he didn't have them beforehand. Nobody.
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Fox News Channel, April 6, 2003)</strong></font>

&quot;Speaking to the U.N. Security Council last week, Secretary of State Colin Powell made so strong a case that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein is in material breach of U.N. resolutions that only the duped, the dumb and the desperate could ignore it.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Cal Thomas, syndicated column, 2/12/03)</strong></font>

&quot;Saddam could decide to take Baghdad with him. One Arab intelligence officer interviewed by Newsweek spoke of 'the green mushroom' over Baghdad--the modern-day caliph bidding a grotesque bio-chem farewell to the land of the living alongside thousands of his subjects as well as his enemies. Saddam wants to be remembered. He has the means and the demonic imagination. It is up to U.S. armed forces to stop him before he can achieve notoriety for all time.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(Newsweek, 3/17/03)</strong><b> </b></font>

&quot;Chris, more than anything else, real vindication for the administration. One, credible evidence of weapons of mass destruction. Two, you know what? There were a lot of terrorists here, really bad guys. I saw them.&quot;
<font color="#0000FF"><strong>(MSNBC reporter Bob Arnot, 4/9/03) </strong></font>

&quot;Even in the flush of triumph, doubts will be raised. Where are the supplies of germs and poison gas and plans for nukes to justify pre-emption? (Freed scientists will lead us to caches no inspectors could find.) What about remaining danger from Baathist torturers and war criminals forming pockets of resistance and plotting vengeance? (Their death wish is our command.)&quot;
<strong><font color="#0000FF">(New York Times' William Safire, 4/10/03)</font></strong>

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For Neocons, the Irony of Iraq</font><font face="tahoma" size="4" color="#0000ff"><b>
In championing the Iraq war, have come to embody everything
they once mocked and despised in '60s liberals.</b></font>


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In the beginning, neoconservatism was a movement of onetime liberals enraged at the wave of violence and disorder that overtook the cities in the 1960s. Riots convulsed urban America in that stormy decade, crime rates soared, student radicals seized campuses. How could anyone see all this, the first generation of neocons inquired, and still remain a liberal?

For it was all the liberals' fault. Wafted along by their vaporous good intentions, indifferent to any unintended consequences those intentions might engender, wrapped up in their dizzy notions of the perfectibility of humankind, the liberals (at least, as the neos caricatured them) crafted criminal codes devoid of punishment, welfare programs requiring no work. In the world the liberals made, civic order took a back seat to individual rights, and as order vanished, the urban middle class vanished with it, abandoning once-vibrant neighborhoods for the safety of the suburbs. A neoconservative, the movement's founding father, Irving Kristol, famously observed, was a liberal who'd been mugged by reality. While liberals dithered, neoconservatives argued first and foremost for more cops.

Fast-forward four decades and we've come full circle. The neocons have refocused their attention on foreign policy and, in championing the Iraq war, have come to embody everything they once mocked and despised in '60s liberals.

Bolsheviks in the cause of their vaporous intentions, so bent on ignoring reality that they dismissed and suppressed all intelligence that prophesied the bloody complexities of the post-Hussein landscape, they conjured from nowhere and guaranteed the world an idealized postwar Iraq.

The sharpest irony was their stunning indifference to the need for civic order. When the Army chief of staff, Gen. Eric Shinseki, said that the occupation would require many hundreds of thousands of troops to establish and maintain the peace, he was publicly rebuked by Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, the administration's foremost neocon, and quickly put out to pasture. When the first U.S. official to take charge in post-invasion-Iraq, Jay Garner, called for a massive effort to train Iraq's police and restore order, he was summarily dismissed. When looting far more widespread than anything the United States had ever known swept Iraq's cities after Hussein's fall, Don Rumsfeld shrugged and said, "Stuff happens" -- a two-word death sentence for the possibility of a livable Iraq.

And now, just as middle-class Americans fled the cities in the wake of urban disorder, so middle-class Iraqis are fleeing, too -- not just the cities but the nation. In a signally important and devastating dispatch from Baghdad that ran in last Friday's New York Times, correspondent Sabrina Tavernise reports that fully 7 percent of the country's population, and an estimated quarter of the nation's middle class, has been issued passports in the past 10 months alone. Tavernise documents the sectarian savagery that is directed at the world of Iraqi professionals -- the murders in their offices, their neighborhood stores, their children's schools, their homes -- and that has already turned a number of Baghdad's once-thriving upscale neighborhoods into ghost towns.

Slaughter is the order of the day, and the police are nowhere to be found. "I have no protection from my government," Monkath Abdul Razzaq, a middle-class Sunni who has decided to emigrate, told Tavernise. "Anyone can come into my house, take me, kill me, and throw me into the trash."

Irving Kristol initiated neoconservatism at least partly in revulsion at the disorder of John Lindsay's New York. Now his son William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and the single leading proponent (going back to the mid-1990s) of invading Iraq, has helped convert neoconservatism into a source of a disorder infinitely more violent than anything that once disquieted his dad. To do so, he and his fellow war proponents ignored all credible information on the actual Iraq and promised an Eden more improbable than anything that '60s liberals ever imagined. "There's been a certain amount of pop sociology in America," he told National Public Radio listeners in the war's opening weeks, "that the Shia can't get along with the Sunni and the Shia in Iraq want to establish some kind of Islamic fundamentalist regime. There's been almost no evidence of that at all," he continued. "Iraq's always been very secular."

He wasn't entirely wrong. Iraqi professionals were disproportionately secular. Now they are packing up their secularism and taking it to other lands. The war, and the failure to establish order that led to the barbarism that's driving Iraqis away, can't be laid solely on the neocons' doorstep, of course. These second-generation neos needed a trio of arrogant, onetime CEOs -- Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld -- to actualize their vision. But actualize it they did, and the ideologues whose forebears once argued that the drugged-out Bronx was a monument to liberal folly have now made blood-drenched and depopulating Baghdad the monument to their own neocon obsessions.

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They Told You So</font><font face="trebuchet ms" color="#000000" size="3"><b>

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Shortly after U.S. forces marched into Baghdad in 2003, The Weekly Standard published a jeering article titled, ''The Cassandra Chronicles: The stupidity of the antiwar doomsayers.'' Among those the article mocked was a ''war novelist'' named James Webb, who is now the senator-elect from Virginia.

The article's title was more revealing than its authors knew. People forget the nature of Cassandra's curse: although nobody would believe her, all her prophecies came true.

And so it was with those who warned against invading Iraq. At best, they were ignored. A recent article in The Washington Post ruefully conceded that the paper's account of the debate in the House of Representatives over the resolution authorizing the Iraq war -- a resolution opposed by a majority of the Democrats -- gave no coverage at all to those antiwar arguments that now seem prescient.

At worst, those who were skeptical about the case for war had their patriotism and/or their sanity questioned. The New Republic now says that it ''deeply regrets its early support for this war.'' Does it also deeply regret accusing those who opposed rushing into war of ''abject pacifism?''

Now, only a few neocon dead-enders still believe that this war was anything but a vast exercise in folly. And those who braved political pressure and ridicule to oppose what Al Gore has rightly called ''the worst strategic mistake in the history of the United States'' deserve some credit.

Unlike The Weekly Standard, which singled out those it thought had been proved wrong, I'd like to offer some praise to those who got it right. Here's a partial honor roll:

<b>Former President George H. W. Bush and Brent Scowcroft</b>, explaining in 1998 why they didn't go on to Baghdad in 1991: ''Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land.''

<b>Representative Ike Skelton</b>, September 2002: ''I have no doubt that our military would decisively defeat Iraq's forces and remove Saddam. But like the proverbial dog chasing the car down the road, we must consider what we would do after we caught it.''

<b>Al Gore</b>, September 2002: ''I am deeply concerned that the course of action that we are presently embarking upon with respect to Iraq has the potential to seriously damage our ability to win the war against terrorism and to weaken our ability to lead the world in this new century.''

<b>Barack Obama</b>, now a United States senator, September 2002: ''I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.''

<b>Representative John Spratt</b>, October 2002: ''The outcome after the conflict is actually going to be the hardest part, and it is far less certain.''

<b>Representative Nancy Pelosi</b>, now the House speaker-elect, October 2002: ''When we go in, the occupation, which is now being called the liberation, could be interminable and the amount of money it costs could be unlimited.''

<b>Senator Russ Feingold</b>, October 2002: ''I am increasingly troubled by the seemingly shifting justifications for an invasion at this time. When the administration moves back and forth from one argument to another, I think it undercuts the credibility of the case and the belief in its urgency. I believe that this practice of shifting justifications has much to do with the troubling phenomenon of many Americans questioning the administration's motives.''

<b>Howard Dean</b>, then a candidate for president and now the chairman of the Democratic National Committee, February 2003: ''I firmly believe that the president is focusing our diplomats, our military, our intelligence agencies, and even our people on the wrong war, at the wrong time. Iraq is a divided country, with Sunni, Shia and Kurdish factions that share both bitter rivalries and access to large quantities of arms.''

We should honor these people for their wisdom and courage. We should also ask why anyone who didn't raise questions about the war -- or, at any rate, anyone who acted as a cheerleader for this march of folly -- should be taken seriously when he or she talks about matters of national security.
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I honor them. We fucked up.
The burner question now is:
How do we unfuckitup ???

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