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cranrab

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not again... :smh:

Hill out up to six weeks after surgery
/ Associated Press
Posted: 39 minutes ago

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - All-Star forward Grant Hill was expected to miss three to six weeks after he has surgery for a sports hernia.

Hill, the Orlando Magic's second-leading scorer last season, saw several specialists after he was pulled from the lineup Oct. 19. The club had been mum on the severity of the injury, but on Thursday said Dr. William Myers would operate next week in Philadelphia.
"It's better than three to six months or three to six years," Hill said.

He told reporters earlier this week that he sustained the lower abdominal injury a few weeks before training camp began Oct. 4. A sports hernia is different from a true hernia. A sports hernia is a pulled groin muscle that worsens over time and affects the abdominal wall.

"I've often sort of joked with you all that when I sneeze it's big news," he said. "I'm not equating this with a sneeze - but it's something that, for a short period of time it bothered me."

Last season was Grant Hill's best for the Magic. Finally healed from an ankle injury that kept him off the court most of the previous four seasons, he hit a career-best 50 percent and averaged 19.7 points - good enough for sixth All-Star game appearance.

He averaged 11.5 points and 3 assists in the four preseason games he was able to play this year. Hill could be out until the middle of December - more bad news for a club trying to improve on a 36-46 record that kept it out of the postseason for the second straight year.

"You have to play with the people you have," coach Brian Hill said this week. "We can't use injuries, whether it's injuries to Grant or anybody else, as an excuse. We still have players here that are going to play hard and play within our system and play together as a team."

Hedo Turkoglu has been starting in Grant Hill's absence. Orlando's fourth-leading scorer last season at 14 points per game, Turkoglu is averaging 10.9 in seven exhibitions.
 

RunawaySlave

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ended last season with an injury....starting this season
with an injury. He might just go down as the biggest
disappointment in history if he keeps this up


Hopefully this is only a momentary setback. Three
weeks isn't that long. Six weeks means he'll be back
in early December


Anyway, the days of NBA star athletes playing 82
games in a season are long gone. Nowadays, you're
lucky if they play in 70-75. And the "Iron Man" is just
an anamoly today
 

cranrab

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RunawaySlave said:
ended last season with an injury....starting this season
with an injury. He might just go down as the biggest
disappointment in history if he keeps this up


Hopefully this is only a momentary setback. Three
weeks isn't that long. Six weeks means he'll be back
in early December


Anyway, the days of NBA star athletes playing 82
games in a season are long gone. Nowadays, you're
lucky if they play in 70-75. And the "Iron Man" is just
an anamoly today

GC (and some doctors) would probably like to strangle me for my take on this, but i believe this is all due to KIDS entering the league at earlier and earlier ages...

they may be full of energy and explosive quickness, but IMO their bodies aren't prepared for the rigors of professional athletics... at younger ages, they're being asked to play more games year-round, and some even start strength conditioning programs WAY before they're ready...

add in the combination of NO trainers to instruct them on proper taping, pre and post game stretching, pre and post game ice/heat, and unsupervised poor technique in the weight room, and you've got an accident waiting to happen...

i acknowledge that proper conditioning can protect and lengthen a player's career if administered properly, but these KIDS just aren't built for the grind...

BTW, if someone has the means to pull up the thread i posted LAST PRE-season about shaun livingston, i predicted his injuries...
 

RunawaySlave

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You'll get no argument from me on any of that logic

The numbers don't lie. These guys are barely making
70 games per season. It's hard as hell to jump from
maybe 25 games at 36 - 40 minutes per in highschool to
an 80-100 game season against the biggest, strongest
and fastest athletes in the world. They just are NOT
ready
 

gene cisco

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cranrab said:
GC (and some doctors) would probably like to strangle me for my take on this, but i believe this is all due to KIDS entering the league at earlier and earlier ages...

they may be full of energy and explosive quickness, but IMO their bodies aren't prepared for the rigors of professional athletics... at younger ages, they're being asked to play more games year-round, and some even start strength conditioning programs WAY before they're ready...

add in the combination of NO trainers to instruct them on proper taping, pre and post game stretching, pre and post game ice/heat, and unsupervised poor technique in the weight room, and you've got an accident waiting to happen...

i acknowledge that proper conditioning can protect and lengthen a player's career if administered properly, but these KIDS just aren't built for the grind...

BTW, if someone has the means to pull up the thread i posted LAST PRE-season about shaun livingston, i predicted his injuries...


NAw, has you know weights and all that other shit weren't even allowed by most basketball coaches. The bulls with jordan started with an excellent weight program in the early 90's, and everybody followed.

Now high schoolers are encouraged to lift, add that and the rigors of basketball plus poor nutrition and you got accidents waiting to happen.

If dudes just carried on like players before the 90's with no weight training their bodies would be under much less stress.

Not to mention muscular imbalances from training one group, like the quads and not doing the oppossing(hamstrings), lead to alot of fucked hamstrings.

1000 crunches and no low back work, what you think is gonna happen.

Hell I did it to myself, even though I knew better, trained quads like a mutha, while being easy on hams, next thing you know running I fucked up my ham.

Trust me, you can train people and tell them what to do, but few listen and train right.

But if you just had a league where there was no weight training you would cut down on injuries, the body can't take running 8 miles on the court plus lifting and your idea of a diet is doritos and coke a cola and some pizza.
 

Rick_James

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RunawaySlave said:
You'll get no argument from me on any of that logic

The numbers don't lie. These guys are barely making
70 games per season. It's hard as hell to jump from
maybe 25 games at 36 - 40 minutes per in highschool to
an 80-100 game season against the biggest, strongest
and fastest athletes in the world. They just are NOT
ready

SUIT UP SHITTALKER! AND LEST SEE HOW LONG YO BITCHASS LAST ON THE COURT! and whatsup with this faggat ass dark orange color you using! you been hanging wit dem faggat from The Tyra Banks Show again?
 

RunawaySlave

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It reminds me of pitchers in baseball....In their teens, most are



just throwing fastballs and nothing else, because their arms
haven't developed to the point where it can stand the rigors
of throwing a 90 mph curveball or any other breaking ball, like
a slider, screwball (like the cat above this post
rolleyes.gif
), or

knuckleball.

Once a pitcher reaches his 20's in the minor leagues, that's
where he will pick up how to effectively, and without too
much strain on his arm, thrown all of those pitches. But you'd
rarely see a 18 year old doing it in high school



 

Havoc

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I agree with everyone except shittalker. Sadly, it's pretty much unheard of to see an athlete in every game that his team plays.
 

cranrab

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Havoc said:
I agree with everyone except shittalker. Sadly, it's pretty much unheard of to see an athlete in every game that his team plays.

lol... who is shittalker?
 
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