So Russia Hacked The US and Gave Emails To WikiLeaks........

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And this was done to influence the presidential elections in the United States this year.

Let's say that I accept this at face value.

My question is were the emails that were hacked and released to Wikileaks real emails or were they fabricated ?
 
I think she made it easy for them but I think the russians had something to do with it,
it aint like us of a aint tryin to hack their shit...

I think there were some what real, I mean dont they blame the emails for giving up stevens location in benghazi...???
 
They were real, & I don't believe that Russian bullshit. Hillary is just attempting to save face.

I think she made it easy for them but I think the russians had something to do with it,
it aint like us of a aint tryin to hack their shit...

I think there were some what real, I mean dont they blame the emails for giving up stevens location in benghazi...???

The US was hacking Iran most def. Didn't the US get busted hacking Germany who is an ally ?

But if Russia was hacking the US and the DNC how can she downplay her private server was not an issue ?

I am not even talking about Benghazi. I am talking about her speeches for cash and the things she supposedly said. I am talking about her basically saying she only playing progressive to get votes and will govern center right/left.

I am asking if the emails and shit that WikiLeaks released are real then why aren't Hillary supporters requiring her to stand up and be truthful.If they aren't holding her accountable before the election why would anybody think she will be held accountable after the election when she already redecorating the WH ?

Also isn't it easy to say Russia Russia Russia scary ass Russia ? When it could be Israel, China, North Korea or any other country. Like I said it could be Germany getting some get back
 
The US was hacking Iran most def. Didn't the US get busted hacking Germany who is an ally ?

But if Russia was hacking the US and the DNC how can she downplay her private server was not an issue ?

I am not even talking about Benghazi. I am talking about her speeches for cash and the things she supposedly said. I am talking about her basically saying she only playing progressive to get votes and will govern center right/left.

I am asking if the emails and shit that WikiLeaks released are real then why aren't Hillary supporters requiring her to stand up and be truthful.If they aren't holding her accountable before the election why would anybody think she will be held accountable after the election when she already redecorating the WH ?

Also isn't it easy to say Russia Russia Russia scary ass Russia ? When it could be Israel, China, North Korea or any other country. Like I said it could be Germany getting some get back

yea all that is possible.... we aint never going to get the truth from the mouth of a seasoned politician...
 
You are missing the bigger point. If true and Russia is going to this extreme then its for a reason. Also its strange that trump would dismiss these accusations when Hillary said 17 agencies confirmed it. And why when mentioning the emails he keeps throwing wiki leaks name in there?
 
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From what I've read is that the hack and the emails are real but some of them have been modified, edited or redacted to make it seem like they are more sinister than they are. They should have had a private email server like Hillary...lol...then all their emails wouldn't be on the net.
 
Fam the fact that wiki claims to b e unbiased yet only exposing emails from Clinton and literally not a peep in trump should tell you wiki is in Russia's back pocket and yes the emails were stolen

Wiki at this point have no credibility

Are you saying the emails are false ?

or just that Wikileaks isn't impartial ?

them having an agenda doesn't mean they have no credibility if the information released is true.

that argument just means they being mean to me so I won't answer :lol:

why would they be impartial though ? didn't the Obama administration go after them for previous leaks ?

so sure they have a bone to pick with Obama and Hillary...
 
In the 10 or so years that Wikileaks have existed there has never been a proven claim of them releasing false documents.
 
Fam the fact that wiki claims to b e unbiased yet only exposing emails from Clinton and literally not a peep in trump should tell you wiki is in Russia's back pocket and yes the emails were stolen

Wiki at this point have no credibility
Wiki leaks have a lot of credibility, are you saying that the leaks weren't real? We should focus on what they reveal, let's not kill the messenger.
 
Are you saying the emails are false ?

or just that Wikileaks isn't impartial ?

them having an agenda doesn't mean they have no credibility if the information released is true.

that argument just means they being mean to me so I won't answer :lol:

why would they be impartial though ? didn't the Obama administration go after them for previous leaks ?

so sure they have a bone to pick with Obama and Hillary...

Wikileaks started out legit, but they haven't actually accepted submissions from whistle blowers in years. There has been some very good reporting about them lately. From what I've gathered, they are just a propaganda arm of Russia now. Their rep is based on their earlier work.
 
You are missing the bigger point. If true and Russia is going to this extreme then its for a reason. Also its strange that trump would dismiss these accusations when Holary said 17 agencies confirmed it. And why when mentioning the emails he keeps throwing wiki leaks name in there?

Have any of those 17 agencies shown any evidence that is was Russia ?

They might not be able to prove it was the Russian government but they should be able to prove that the originating IP address was in Russia.

BTW she said 17 government and private groups , so the answer isn't it's a secret...

From what I've read is that the hack and the emails are real but some of them have been modified, edited or redacted to make it seem like they are more sinister than they are. They should have had a private email server like Hillary...lol...then all their emails wouldn't be on the net.

So they are fake if they have been modified...

Okay that answers it for me.

I was asking because all I hear is your emails and well Russia did it for you ..
 
Wikileaks started out legit, but they haven't actually accepted submissions from whistle blowers in years. There has been some very good reporting about them lately. From what I've gathered, they are just a propaganda arm of Russia now. Their rep is based on their earlier work.

But dude hasn't been in Russia for years now....

I just wanted to know if the emails are real or fake...

because all the talk about the emails are talking around them not about them
 
Have any of those 17 agencies shown any evidence that is was Russia ?

They might not be able to prove it was the Russian government but they should be able to prove that the originating IP address was in Russia.

BTW she said 17 government and private groups , so the answer isn't it's a secret...



So they are fake if they have been modified...

Okay that answers it for me.

I was asking because all I hear is your emails and well Russia did it for you ..


I don't know what percentage have been tampered with. It's not all of them tho, probably not even most. The thing is, without knowing which ones have and haven't been tampered with, you can't trust any of them. They can put out all but one of the emails 100% as written, but if they want to start trouble they only need the one lie.
 
The US was hacking Iran most def. Didn't the US get busted hacking Germany who is an ally ?

But if Russia was hacking the US and the DNC how can she downplay her private server was not an issue ?

I am not even talking about Benghazi. I am talking about her speeches for cash and the things she supposedly said. I am talking about her basically saying she only playing progressive to get votes and will govern center right/left.

I am asking if the emails and shit that WikiLeaks released are real then why aren't Hillary supporters requiring her to stand up and be truthful.If they aren't holding her accountable before the election why would anybody think she will be held accountable after the election when she already redecorating the WH ?

Also isn't it easy to say Russia Russia Russia scary ass Russia ? When it could be Israel, China, North Korea or any other country. Like I said it could be Germany getting some get back
Yeah, you're right, this blaming Russia is a load of crap to discredit the leaks.
 
Wiki leaks have a lot of credibility, are you saying that the leaks weren't real? We should focus on what they reveal, let's not kill the messenger.
Not saying that but what I'm saying is if you gonna expose folk expose everyone not just make it seem as though you have an agenda
 
It depends. If you'r a fan of Hillary or any of the folks being exposed, wikileaks is the devil. All the fanboi shit in America is obvious here. Let wikileaks have been exposing the republicans and I bet this Russia shit would be a nonissue and folks would focus on what was being leaked.

Maybe they tried to hack Trump but he didn't have dumbasses using their pets's names as passwords. Who knows? I'm not falling for the fuckery of worry about Russia being involved.
 
Are you saying the emails are false ?

or just that Wikileaks isn't impartial ?

them having an agenda doesn't mean they have no credibility if the information released is true.

that argument just means they being mean to me so I won't answer :lol:

why would they be impartial though ? didn't the Obama administration go after them for previous leaks ?

so sure they have a bone to pick with Obama and Hillary...

I'm not saying that the emails are very real but it's the manner in which they were obtained and wiki is showing complete biased in favor of Trump.. Sorry but if you gonna expose Clinton then expose trump as well
 
I believe Russia had something to do with it. I think its real.

Doesnt Russia have some of the best hackers in the world?
 
I'm not saying that the emails are very real but it's the manner in which they were obtained and wiki is showing complete biased in favor of Trump.. Sorry but if you gonna expose Clinton then expose trump as well

I agree they are biased..

But I was thinking it had more to do with Hillary as Secretary of State trying to get that Julian dude extradited and also working to have other countries keep him out. Remember when he first ran only Russia would let him in.

So I was thinking for him it's payback.

I was also saying that who really knows who did the hacking ? All these countries hack each other. They bug embassies and all types of shit....
 
I believe Russia had something to do with it. I think its real.

Doesnt Russia have some of the best hackers in the world?

All countries have hackers.

Nobody mentions Israel and they have a history or doing shit and setting others up..

And while they talking about interfering in elections don't forget Isreal and the GOP trying to influence congress.
 
It depends. If you'r a fan of Hillary or any of the folks being exposed, wikileaks is the devil. All the fanboi shit in America is obvious here. Let wikileaks have been exposing the republicans and I bet this Russia shit would be a nonissue and folks would focus on what was being leaked.

Maybe they tried to hack Trump but he didn't have dumbasses using their pets's names as passwords. Who knows? I'm not falling for the fuckery of worry about Russia being involved.

The bolded is what I was asking ...

Nobody seems to care what was being leaked.

Now if it's fake then okay but if it's real why is it being ignored ? Simply because they ain't doing Trump too ?

Seems like they don't need Wikileaks to expose Trump since there is new shit about him everyday..

Is Russia just a misdirection to avoid addressing what is leaked ?
 
I agree they are biased..

But I was thinking it had more to do with Hillary as Secretary of State trying to get that Julian dude extradited and also working to have other countries keep him out. Remember when he first ran only Russia would let him in.

So I was thinking for him it's payback.

I was also saying that who really knows who did the hacking ? All these countries hack each other. They bug embassies and all types of shit....


It's been reported that they have received security briefings that this is the case tho. That the government is openly saying it is Russia, that the POTUS is saying this is Russia, means it is Russia. I don't think Obama would say that just to give Hillary an advantage, and I don't think they would give Hillary and Trump briefings to that effect if it weren't true.

What's disturbing to me is Trumps praise for Putin. He seems protective of Putin and Russia's reputation.
 
Yes Russian just seems like too convenient a scapegoat that makes it easy to dismiss the validity of the email. Could be true but if they had hacked in un-bias manner and revealed all candidates emails it couldn't be as easily dismissed.
 
It depends. If you'r a fan of Hillary or any of the folks being exposed, wikileaks is the devil. All the fanboi shit in America is obvious here. Let wikileaks have been exposing the republicans and I bet this Russia shit would be a nonissue and folks would focus on what was being leaked.

Maybe they tried to hack Trump but he didn't have dumbasses using their pets's names as passwords. Who knows? I'm not falling for the fuckery of worry about Russia being involved.
I like how you will use logic against Hillary but throw it out the window for Trump and Russia.

There is a relation between Trump and Putin
Trump has investments in Russia
Trumps campaign manager was a direct tie to Putin
Our national spy agencies have verified it is Russia behind DNC espionage and Florida voter registration espionage
Trump constantly praises Putin over the USA
and...

U.S. vote authorities warned to be alert to Russian hacks faking fraud: officials
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cyber-idUSKCN12L011

Amid 'rigged' election charges, Russia wants to monitor U.S. vote
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...harges-russia-wants-monitor-us-vote/92456558/



This is a russia trying to take over the USA from the inside.
 
This is not about hacking and stealing data, it is about sending a message to our political leadership that the U.S. needs to quit meddling in their affairs such as Ukraine.

This is giving the U.S. an opportunity to take corrective actions before the U.S. is destroyed by inflicting minor damage first.
 
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It's been reported that they have received security briefings that this is the case tho. That the government is openly saying it is Russia, that the POTUS is saying this is Russia, means it is Russia. I don't think Obama would say that just to give Hillary an advantage, and I don't think they would give Hillary and Trump briefings to that effect if it weren't true.

What's disturbing to me is Trumps praise for Putin. He seems protective of Putin and Russia's reputation.

They are saying Russia without actually saying Russia did it.

Evidence points to possible Russian involvement ect ect.

When the US hacked Germany they brought it straight out with no hesitation and made the US apologize and admit it.

During the last debate I didn't see him praise Putin I saw him say if the US and Russia got along that would be great. That nobody knows if Russia hacked.

The commentator dude made him answer if Russia did it would he denounce it and he said absolutely.

Obama made Hillary Secretary of State to give her an advantage...:lol:


On Russian hacking connection, the U.S. isn't as sure as Clinton says it is
By CORY BENNETT


10/19/16 10:06 PM EDT

“What is really important about WikiLeaks is that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the internet. This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government. Clearly from Putin himself in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election.” — Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton here is slightly stretching what the Obama administration said when it officially blamed Russia for deploying its hackers to meddle with the U.S. election.

Clinton is correct that “17 of our intelligence agencies” have accused Russia of orchestrating a digital campaign that has hit top U.S. political institutions like the Democratic National Committee and the DCCC.

“The Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from US political organizations,” said the joint statement from the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

But the Obama administration only said that “Russia's senior-most officials” directed the digital assault, not necessarily Russian President Vladimir Putin himself. For his part, Putin has denied any hand in the hacks.

The former secretary of state also slightly exaggerates the connection that intelligence officials have publicly made between the alleged Russian hackers and WikiLeaks.

While the intelligence community said that leaks earlier this year from WikiLeaks were “consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts,” it has not directly tied the recent WikiLeaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s personal emails to Russia. When Clinton made these remarks during the debate, she was responding to a question on the content of the Podesta leaks.

However, investigators are reportedly leaning toward Russia as the primary suspect in the Podesta dump.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-...re-as-clinton-says-it-is-230033#ixzz4NpPhDcho
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I like how you will use logic against Hillary but throw it out the window for Trump and Russia.

There is a relation between Trump and Putin
Trump has investments in Russia
Trumps campaign manager was a direct tie to Putin
Our national spy agencies have verified it is Russia behind DNC espionage and Florida voter registration espionage
Trump constantly praises Putin over the USA
and..
.

U.S. vote authorities warned to be alert to Russian hacks faking fraud: officials
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cyber-idUSKCN12L011

Amid 'rigged' election charges, Russia wants to monitor U.S. vote
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...harges-russia-wants-monitor-us-vote/92456558/



This is a russia trying to take over the USA from the inside.


See this is my point exactly..

All that information on Trump without Wikileaks....

So just as we can say WikiLeaks is biased and only releasing things on Hillary, we can say the media is biased and only releasing things on Trump.

Russia will have a hard time taking over the US because Israel and China already got dibbs
 
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