Shortage of black male doctors having a public health impact

One factor of lack of Black Male Doctor is the cost to train to become one. 10 years of schooling, almost $500k price and high malpractice insurance discourage most people from becoming doctors.
 
When I read stories like this, the first thing that comes to mind is segregation. It makes me wonder how different our communities would be if we were forced to create the necessary industries to serve our people. Our own grocery stores, gas stations, hospitals, hotels, schools, banks etc.
 
When I read stories like this, the first thing that comes to mind is segregation. It makes me wonder how different our communities would be if we were forced to create the necessary industries to serve our people. Our own grocery stores, gas stations, hospitals, hotels, schools, banks etc.
I agree.
 
One factor of lack of Black Male Doctor is the cost to train to become one. 10 years of schooling, almost $500k price and high malpractice insurance discourage most people from becoming doctors.

I always wondered how much schooling a person needed to become a family doctor.. 10yrs and a cost of half a mil.. Thanks for sharing that, bruh..
 
I always wondered how much schooling a person needed to become a family doctor.. 10yrs and a cost of half a mil.. Thanks for sharing that, bruh..
The median four-year cost of medical school (including expenses and books) was $278,455 for private schools, and $207,866 for public schools in 2013 according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.

My sister is an ER doctor.... She went to Wake Forest School of Medicine. She ended up with a debt of over $200,000. I couldn't tell you how much of that debt she has knocked down since graduating, but, she is not complaining about it. The one thing that she does complain about is how easy it is to have your name attached to a malpractice lawsuit.
 
The median four-year cost of medical school (including expenses and books) was $278,455 for private schools, and $207,866 for public schools in 2013 according to the Association of American Medical Colleges.

My sister is an ER doctor.... She went to Wake Forest School of Medicine. She ended up with a debt of over $200,000. I couldn't tell you how much of that debt she has knocked down since graduating, but, she is not complaining about it. The one thing that she does complain about is how easy it is to have your name attached to a malpractice lawsuit.

200k in school debt, thats madness!! No wonder, you get charged 400 - 500 for a 20min dr visit.. I bet they get hit with lawsuits for all types of things.. You seem like you know alittle bit about this subject, let me ask you this.. Are those in Europe going to medical school, do they get that training and education free??
 
200k in school debt, thats madness!! No wonder, you get charged 400 - 500 for a 20min dr visit.. I bet they get hit with lawsuits for all types of things.. You seem like you know alittle bit about this subject, let me ask you this.. Are those in Europe going to medical school, do they get that training and education free??


The hospital near me doctor's parking is all Porsche's and 100k cars. I doubt they are having a problem paying off their student loans. There are also loan forgiveness programs doctors can apply for.
 
The hospital near me doctor's parking is all Porsche's and 100k cars. I doubt they are having a problem paying off their student loans. There are also loan forgiveness programs doctors can apply for.

The ones with the Porsches are the specialist like the Plastic Surgeons. The Primary Care, family doctors don’t make as much and that is why we have a shortage of those doctors.
 
One factor of lack of Black Male Doctor is the cost to train to become one. 10 years of schooling, almost $500k price and high malpractice insurance discourage most people from becoming doctors.
Nah man lol
School debts get paid off quickly
Malpractice insurance isn’t really a deterrent

Most niggas are scared to compete academically. It’s that simple. Cats don’t have the courage and discipline for all the math and science classes.
I remember being the only Black male in a lot of my science and math classes. (I went to Pharmacy school instead of Medical school but the story is the same)
 
200k in school debt, thats madness!! No wonder, you get charged 400 - 500 for a 20min dr visit.. I bet they get hit with lawsuits for all types of things.. You seem like you know alittle bit about this subject, let me ask you this.. Are those in Europe going to medical school, do they get that training and education free??
I don't really know that much........my degree is in computer networking.... Lol. I don't know anything about Europe, but, I doubt there is ANYWHERE in the world that offers free medical school. I met this sexy New York/Graneda chick a few years ago, she came to Atlanta to get some hands on experience working at a doctor's office near me. She studied somewhere in the Caribbean... not sure if it was Antigua or Trinidad, but, she said her school had students attending from all over the world. Apparently, the cost was so much cheaper than American schools and the degree is recognized here in the US.
 
The number of black male medical students peaked in 1978 and has been falling ever since. Experts say the shortage is having a major health impact, as studies show black patients are more likely to get preventative tests when they have black doctors.

May 5, 2019

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-new...ors-having-a-public-health-impact-58917957878
Think like 25 percent of doctors are Asians. Number will grow in the future.

Went to the two different ERs up here a while back. Family was treated by Asians at both. At the follow ups, yet another Asian who had a cac in training assisting. It's just how it is.

There isn't anything stopping aspiring black doctors from getting in just like the Asians did. Folks better get on the ball because they going to use Asians to eliminate race-based admissions.
 
I have a black male specialist who has put me up on a few things related to being a black, male doc in a bigger city:

1) he practices in a suburb that’s literally across the street from the major city limit and is accessible by bus; yet other black docs gave him a lot of shit for his location because he didn’t decide to practice in/near “the community” and he limited access to “the community across to them.

2) he’s trying to remain solo in an era where big systems are basically buying up/squeezing out private practice docs.

3) if you want your practice to succeed, you have to have a certain ratio of private insurance payers compared to Medicaid/Medicare payers. More of the latter means you have to see a lot of folks in a day and don’t get time to actually learn your patients and their issue(s) and treat appropriately. Going back to #2 above; big systems want numbers; like 10-15 mins per patient and X number of patients a day and a week, plus ordering of procedures, some of which are unnecessary but billable. He’s stated corporate medical is not only bad for patients but makes practicing less rewarding and is burning out docs.

4) as stated; costs are high. My guy spent four years in medical school plus a 5 year residency; he has to make a certain amount a year to service the debt and eat. Going back to #1 and #3 above; unfortunately a disproportionate about of folks in “the community” are on Medicaid or Medicare which pays lower rates than private insurance. Simply put, he can’t practice quality medicine and survive without having a ratio that makes the business work.

5) Finally, and it’s unfortunate but true; a black private doc is limited geographical as to where he can setup shop and survive as a business. And even the hospital work is limited; some communities would rather be sick than have a black dude in their health facilities as the doc.
 
I have a black male specialist who has put me up on a few things related to being a black, male doc in a bigger city:

1) he practices in a suburb that’s literally across the street from the major city limit and is accessible by bus; yet other black docs gave him a lot of shit for his location because he didn’t decide to practice in/near “the community” and he limited access to “the community across to them.

2) he’s trying to remain solo in an era where big systems are basically buying up/squeezing out private practice docs.

3) if you want your practice to succeed, you have to have a certain ratio of private insurance payers compared to Medicaid/Medicare payers. More of the latter means you have to see a lot of folks in a day and don’t get time to actually learn your patients and their issue(s) and treat appropriately. Going back to #2 above; big systems want numbers; like 10-15 mins per patient and X number of patients a day and a week, plus ordering of procedures, some of which are unnecessary but billable. He’s stated corporate medical is not only bad for patients but makes practicing less rewarding and is burning out docs.

4) as stated; costs are high. My guy spent four years in medical school plus a 5 year residency; he has to make a certain amount a year to service the debt and eat. Going back to #1 and #3 above; unfortunately a disproportionate about of folks in “the community” are on Medicaid or Medicare which pays lower rates than private insurance. Simply put, he can’t practice quality medicine and survive without having a ratio that makes the business work.

5) Finally, and it’s unfortunate but true; a black private doc is limited geographical as to where he can setup shop and survive as a business. And even the hospital work is limited; some communities would rather be sick than have a black dude in their health facilities as the doc.

Bruh, thanks for that info.. Good stuff!! I noticed in the city I live in, all the hospitals(except 2 hospitals) and 98% of the doctors offices are owned and run by a large corporation hospital outta denver.. It has it good points, but I dont feel as if I have much of an option as who I can see.. If you know what I mean.. Damn, your #5 quote is crazy!! If you really think about it, the whole system is kinda outta whack!!
 
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I don't really know that much........my degree is in computer networking.... Lol. I don't know anything about Europe, but, I doubt there is ANYWHERE in the world that offers free medical school. I met this sexy New York/Graneda chick a few years ago, she came to Atlanta to get some hands on experience working at a doctor's office near me. She studied somewhere in the Caribbean... not sure if it was Antigua or Trinidad, but, she said her school had students attending from all over the world. Apparently, the cost was so much cheaper than American schools and the degree is recognized here in the US.

You shared sum good info, thats good enuf.. Sum better than none, if you know what i mean.. I met a kat from Africa and he was going to med school there and moved to the states and they told him none or only a few of his credits transferred over, now hes working towards becoming a nurse.. I felt bad for him, when he was tellin me the story you could see he was crushed!! But, he had a positive outlook.. My ass wouldve been throwing books and kicking doors as I walked out the office..
 
Shit was crazy

I was getting a std test done and they brought this lil girl to put the cue tip up my shit

She didn’t go high and enough and had to do it again

My JOHNSON ain’t trust me since.
 
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