Shattering 3 Myths About Liberals

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Shattering 3 Myths About Liberals
By John Hawkins
Friday, March 9, 2007

1) Conservatives are more racist than liberals.Although you will find racists on the left and the right, the left is much more racist on the whole. That's why we still have to create majority black districts in order to get significant numbers of black Americans elected to Congress -- because even though blacks vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic Party, a large percentage of white liberals won't return the favor and vote for black candidates running on the Democratic ticket. According to a study at Yale, "(W)hite Republicans nationally are 25 percentage points more likely on average to vote for the Democratic senatorial candidate when the GOP hopeful is black...In House races, white Democrats are 38 percentage points less likely to vote Democratic if their candidate is black." That 25% of Republicans has nothing to be proud of, but as you can see, the Democrats are far worse.

Meanwhile, another study from a professor at Stanford showed that Democrats were prejudiced about whom they chose to donate money to after Katrina,"But for Democrats, race mattered -- and in a disturbing way. Overall, Democrats were willing to give whites about $1,500 more than they chose to give to a black or other minority....(While Republican) responses to the assistance questions are relatively invariant across the different media conditions. Independents and Democrats, on the other hand, are more likely to be affected by racial cues."

No big surprise there. Republicans were formed as an anti-slavery party and they believe in a colorblind society, while Democrats supported slavery and were the ones turning water hoses and dogs on black protestors in the sixties. Remember George Wallace? Democrat. Bull Connor? Democrat. But, what about the revolutionary Civil Rights Act of 1964? 82% of Republicans in the Senate voted for it while only 64% of Democrats did. Even today, the driving force behind policies like Affirmative Action is the liberal belief that American blacks are too inferior to make it in America without help from the left. That's why it's too bad so many black Americans have bought into the liberal propaganda about conservatives hating black people. Neither the left nor the right has a monopoly on bigots, but far more of them are on the left than the right.

2) Liberals are more compassionate than conservatives. Just as robbing Peter to pay Paul isn't compassion, taking tax dollars from one person and giving that money to another isn't compassion either. Giving your own time and your own money to help other people? That's real compassion and liberals just don't measure up to conservatives in that area,

It turns out that this idea that liberals give more…is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above average percent of their income, 24 were red states in the last presidential election.

Arthur Brooks, the author of "Who Really Cares," says that "when you look at the data, it turns out the conservatives give about 30 percent more." He adds, "And incidentally, conservative-headed families make slightly less money."

And he says the differences in giving goes beyond money, pointing out that conservatives are 18 percent more likely to donate blood.

3) Liberalism is the ideology of science. It has been said that if we ever have fascism here in America, it will be called anti-fascism. Similarly, it's liberals who politicize science to fit their ideological goals and then declare that their opponents are the ones who have rejected reason. Let's take a look at the two most prominent examples.

The first is stem cell research. The truth is that adult stem cells are far more promising than embryonic stem cells as a potential cure for disease. While adult stem cells have already been used to cure a significant number of diseases, embryonic stem cells haven't even made it to their first human trial yet. That's why there is such a push to acquire taxpayer funds -- because private companies don't think embryonic stem cells are worth the investment.

But, because the left can dupe desperate people like Michael J. Fox into accusing conservatives of withholding a cure from them for religious reasons, they're willing to keep pushing embryonic stem cells for the sake of politics, even though taxpayer money would be much better spent on adult stem cell research. Sure, there are conservatives who have objections to embryonic stem cells on religious grounds, but isn't the fact that embryonic stem cells don't merit taxpayer funding in the first place a much bigger issue?

Then, of course, there's global warming. The earth has always been warming and cooling and because of our limited understanding of the climate, we don't fully understand why. Moreover, our best scientists can't accurately forecast what the weather is going to be like a few months from now, or for that matter, next Friday, yet we have global warming alarmists making wild, absolutely unprovable predictions about what the temperature of the planet will be like in fifty to a hundred years. Additionally, they claim to be certain that mankind is responsible for the one degree temperature increase we've seen over the last century, even though from roughly 1940 to 1975, as man was pumping larger and larger amounts of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere, the planet was cooling, not warming. As if all that wasn't enough, honest environmentalists will admit that even if man is responsible for global warming, there is no realistic way, with our current technology, to cut our greenhouse gasses enough to make a difference. Let me also add that there is a scientific theory that adequately explains the small increase in temperature we've had over the last century much better than anything Al Gore has ever come up with: that being, the sun, not man is primarily responsible (see here and here for more details).

When people point out all the flaws in the liberal "reasoning" about global warming, the response is almost inevitably an attempt to cut off debate. Scientists who fail to toe the liberal line have their reputations smeared and are compared to Holocaust Deniers.

Moreover, global warming alarmists continually try to claim that there should be more discussion of whether man causes global warming because "consensus" on the issue has been reached in the scientific community. This is despite the fact that there are more than 17,100 scientists who say that,

"There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate."

Why is the left so hellbent on proving that mankind is responsible for global warming, if the facts don’t seem to point in that direction? Because it's a great way for them to attack big business, particularly oil and a wonderful excuse to raise taxes. Additionally, because America has the world's biggest economy, we'd be heavily damaged by ridiculous treaties like Kyoto and the opportunity to punish America for being so successful is a big motivator for the left. So, as you see, it is liberals, not conservatives, who are disregarding science in order to further their political concerns.



John Hawkins is a professional blogger who runs Right Wing News and Conservative Grapevine, both of which are conservative blogs. He also writes a weekly column for Townhall.com and consults for the Duncan Hunter campaign.

Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.
 
Fuckallyall said:
Shattering 3 Myths About Liberals
By John Hawkins
Friday, March 9, 2007


John Hawkins is a professional blogger who runs Right Wing News and Conservative Grapevine, both of which are conservative blogs. He also writes a weekly column for Townhall.com and consults for the Duncan Hunter campaign.

Copyright © 2006 Salem Web Network. All Rights Reserved.

I'm absolutely confused by this title... I consider myself "conservative" on certain issues and am already aware of some of the analogies in the article.
 
will find racists on the left and the right, the left is much more racist on the whole. That's why we still have to create majority black districts in order to get significant numbers of black Americans elected to Congress -- because even though blacks vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic Party, a large percentage of white liberals won't return the favor and vote for black candidates running on the Democratic ticket.

Says it all for me.

-VG
 
actinanass said:
I wonder why que and the others won't post on this topic?

...very interesting...
(1) I hadn't time to read it before now;

(2) labels (democrat, republican, conservative, liberal) are laughable.

(3) Your comment, "very interesting" shows you probably got duped by the labels and didn't critically read the article. If you had read it, you might have dismissed it as I did because the article really doesn't stand for or prove anything.

Does the article really make a case for either group, liberals or conservatives, being more or less magnanimous, caring or racist than the other? If you think so, please point out to me the empirical data which supports those conclusions.

Oh, here's number (4): You don't know jack about what I think; I doubt that you read with comprehension/analysis; you're easily led by meaningless words; and you don't know what you think either, otherwise, you would have said something more than .... very interesting ...

Hows that ???

QueEx
 
what does he mean "return the favour"? this isn't the mob
and where is the empirical data supporting this?

he clearly way off on all 3 of his points.. i won't even bother
 
I smell Bullshit. See how they play that CONSERVATIVE and REPUBLICAN CRAP like they the same thing? Durring the CIVIL WAR, it was the REPUBLICANS who were the LIBERALS and all that Changed once the CIVIL RIGHTS BILL was passed by LBJ. After that, all those Democrats from the SOUTH became Republican because they were RACIST. THat didnt change the fact they were CONSERVATIVES who wanted to PRESERVE their RACIST WAYS. Even MLK was a REPUBLICAN when they were the LIBERAL PARTY.


This shit aint gonna sway me ONE BIT from VOTING OBAMA in '08.
 
bromack1 said:
I'm absolutely confused by this title... I consider myself "conservative" on certain issues and am already aware of some of the analogies in the article.

Your actually a MODERATE. esp if your on a PORN SITE discussing POLITICS.
 
QueEx said:
(1) I hadn't time to read it before now;

(2) labels (democrat, republican, conservative, liberal) are laughable.

(3) Your comment, "very interesting" shows you probably got duped by the labels and didn't critically read the article. If you had read it, you might have dismissed it as I did because the article really doesn't stand for or prove anything.

Does the article really make a case for either group, liberals or conservatives, being more or less magnanimous, caring or racist than the other? If you think so, please point out to me the empirical data which supports those conclusions.

Oh, here's number (4): You don't know jack about what I think; I doubt that you read with comprehension/analysis; you're easily led by meaningless words; and you don't know what you think either, otherwise, you would have said something more than .... very interesting ...

Hows that ???

QueEx


1. I only use "meaningless" labels because that is the easiest way to understand majority of politics. Not to mention, the only clear cut way to understand how people view majority of politics. It comes down to this Mr. Que, you will always have one side that believes one thing, and another side that believes another. Can they all be friends, yes. Does that mean that they are all out to get us when they hit D.C., no.

On the other hand, I do understand why you do not believe in party/political lines. The fact that a small percentage of Americans can dictate what the majority do kind of put a cynical thought into your mind. One slight problem though, unlike other past government, we ultimately have the power to get rid of any elected official.

2. I kinda figured u didn't, oh well..

3. Actually, "very interesting" comment was based on you, and the other people, not commenting on this post. I was actually shocked. Plus, no I am not duped in how liberals think of minorities. Since you need data how about this:

A. Since I've been listening to other forms of media, *like radio talk shows, ect* I have yet to hear a conservative talk show host discredit anyone due to their race. In most conservatives mind, its about money, and God. If you are trying to get money, and believe in God, most of the time they will accept you. Now are there some exceptions, YES. Every political side has it's ugly side.

B. How many rich, black Liberals you know?

C. When the last time a white liberal president made the black community better?


4. So fact is meaningless in your eyes? Quit looking for an article on the internet, and actually look at our community *or the black community if you are not black*. The fact is, every time we get a democrat in office *other than LBJ*, in the past 40 years, my community gets shafted. They do not know how to deal with my community. They treat us like kids, and give us everything we want. Then, for some reason, we stay in the same rut.

And for the black community, lets quit blaming hip hop, republicans, and past racism for the problems we have today. In all honestly, we can fix our problems really quick, yet, if we do it WITHOUT THE LIBERALS, racism will finally show its true form.
 
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actinanass said:
1. I only use "meaningless" labels because that is the easiest way to understand majority of politics. Not to mention, the only clear cut way to understand how people view majority of politics.
Brother, thats the way the political parties want YOU to see things. Political party labels don't explain anything, they don't make anything clearer, and they don't even define what the individuals who make up the party believe.

Party labels are like big umbrellas with a name on top of it, i.e., Democratic Umbrella, Republican Umbrella, Libertarian Umbrella, etc. The part of the umbrella that you hold in your hand that extends all the way to the top of the umbrella represent the core ideas (so-called party platforms, etc) and the spokes that extend outward from that core that hold the canvas on the umbrella are like the upper ranking party officials or party apparatus that try to spread the core ideals, party propaganda, and are responsible for trying to get people to come out from the rain, the sun, or even enlightenment, and stand under their particular umbrella to associate yourselves with their core ideas. (I hope I'm painting a picture you can imagine here)

NONE. I repeat, NONE of the party apparatus or the people standing under the umbrella actually believe the same thing. They all see the core ideas differently (because they are fucking people); some only accept those ideas that agree with their personal beliefs; and others don't know what the fuck to believe, they just like the color of the damn umbrella and go along with what the others are saying because they couldn't think for themselves even if they wanted to. Hence, you have the right, left, center, moderate, and know-nothings wings of a party.

MY POINT: you must examine the individuals; the speakers; their motives; their reasoning, etc., to get a reasonable understanding of whats really going on. The umbrella doesn't speak or breathe; only the individuals under the umbrella and the spokes(men) that hold the canvass on the umbrella speak, breathe and think. Sometimes, when you can first understand whose speaking, why that person is speaking; what that person's personal baggage is -- then you might get a glimpse of what the REAL MESSAGE is.



Actinanass said:
It comes down to this Mr. Que, you will always have one side that believes one thing, and another side that believes another. Can they all be friends, yes. Does that mean that they are all out to get us when they hit D.C., no.
Sir, I'm not the conspiracist. I don't believe that all white folk are out to get us. I don't believe that all members of the republican party are bad; I don't think that all members of the democratic party are bad; and I don't believe (at this point) that the Bush administration downed the towers or were complicit in the attacks of 9-11 or the failure of the levees in New Orleans. Perhaps, you should search all posts by QueEx and you will find that while you are painting me as a liberal; many others have painted me as a conservative. I laugh at both attempts! because like you, they have failed to analyze what I've said opting for what you THINK I've said or stand for. Actually, I've said some pretty republican sounding things and some things you might call straight from the left.


On the other hand, I do understand why you do not believe in party/political lines.
Simple. I have a brain. I don't need anyone to speak for me; I speak for myself - and quite well, I think. I analyze candidates not based on some damn party, but what they stand for. Not based on their party rhetoric; but based on what they've done in the past. Even for a candidate that doesn't have much of a political past, he/she still has baggage, if you know what I mean.


The fact that a small percentage of Americans can dictate what the majority do kind of put a cynical thought into your mind.
STOP! Please stop. You have to take the time to educate your mind. You have to learn to analyze when you read and listen; and apply some common sense. No one can put cynical thoughts in your mind unless, well, you're just gullible. Those are the kinds of people that find themselves all huddled-up under some Big Umbrella (political party) waiting on somebody to tell them what next to do, think or know.

You see Bro, thats why I am thrilled about the current debate in Congress over Iraq. GW, Congress and the rest are finally putting their thoughts on the table for all to see and for all to better understand the facts and whats at stake. You were moaniing the other day about Congress attacking Bush and why can'tthey just get along. Getting along without debate is exactly what got us to this precipice. When there is no debate, those at the center of the Umbrella have their way which doesn't necessarily mean its the right way. Debate is Big Boy Business.

3. Actually, "very interesting" comment was based on you, and the other people, not commenting on this post. I was actually shocked. Plus, no I am not duped in how liberals think of minorities. Since you need data how about this:
Do you comment on every post on this or any other board? Not. The reason you were surprised I didn't respond is because you have preconceived notions in your mind about who I might be or what I may think. In other words, you're acting like you're under an Umbrella. You didn't think or analze first; you just used Umbrella logic.

A. Since I've been listening to other forms of media, *like radio talk shows, ect* I have yet to hear a conservative talk show host discredit anyone due to their race. In most conservatives mind, its about money, and God. If you are trying to get money, and believe in God, most of the time they will accept you. Now are there some exceptions, YES. Every political side has it's ugly side.
Bro, please read the things I said at the start of this response. Obviously, you're just listening and not thinking, analyzing or even using common sense. It doesn't take much to hear the blatant racism on some of those conservative shows and even less to read between the veiled lines.

Here's a gimme: what about ole Rush's comments on the Black quarterback? Or, what do you think Rush is up to when he says, "the REVerrrrreennnd Jackson" and commences to denigrate whatever he says Jesse said without any real factual analysis of whatever Jesse said? (and before you even go there, fuck Jesse).

Hey Actinanass, lets Play Jeopardy in reverse: Who is Trent Lott or damn near most of the rest of the great Republican southern delegation ? Answer; some of the most racist people you'll find in the USA.

... lets play again. Who was Barry Goldwater?
What was the Goldwater revolution?

Umma leave you to ponder some answers


B. How many rich, black Liberals you know?
Many. Though thats not the point. The point is that you'd ask such a question so heavily laden with misconception, propaganda and food for the weak of mind.

C. When the last time a white liberal president made the black community better?
You're not going to get me to sing the praises of either: liberal or conservative. I'm not so sure that the plight of our community is dependent on either. I think improvement in our community is largely on our backs and, perhaps, politicians that have a genuine interest in laying the foundation. I feel certain there may be politicians from either side of your liberal/conservative line that understand why its so important our community prospers just as their are many on the same side of our proverbial line that feel differently. But I can tell you one thing: you'll find neither relying on whose conservative or whose liberal or whose republican or whose democrat. I swear, the only people who need such party lables are people who need a damn cructch or someone who needs something to believe in because they can't believe, for themselves.


4. So fact is meaningless in your eyes? Quit looking for an article on the internet, and actually look at our community *or the black community if you are not black*.
Main, youainknow um white? :lol:
See what your label-driven-analysis does. It fails you everytime. Gitchu some sense boy.


The fact is, every time we get a democrat in office *other than LBJ*, in the past 40 years, my community gets shafted. They do not know how to deal with my community. They treat us like kids, and give us everything we want. Then, for some reason, we stay in the same rut.
All I can say to that is this: If someone gives you everything you WANT and you still ended up in a rut, then obviously you either failed to ask for what you NEEDED or you didn't do shit with what you GOT. Which is it? Or, perhaps there is something wrong with what you said ?????

And for the black community, lets quit blaming hip hop, republicans, and past racism for the problems we have today. In all honestly, we can fix our problems really quick, yet, if we do it WITHOUT THE LIBERALS, racism will finally show its true form.
Well my <s>brother</s> ... ooopss ... forgot um white. Well boy, as great as you people music is, you just keep letting some fringe elements of it degrade your community; make you people think there is no hope; keep making your fine-assed women think they just ho's instead of praising their strenght; keep talking about how to shoot down the best of you .... and us white people will only have to stand by and watch a great people, perish. And, someday in the future, we'll come back to the areas where you once stood proud and view all the Great things about your people ... lying about like the ancient ruins of the Mayans; and we'll build museums on the sites - to commemorate what Great People You Were. And, we'll tell the visitors that this is what happens when a great culture turned on itself.

QueEx
 
QueEx said:
Brother, thats the way the political parties want YOU to see things. Political party labels don't explain anything, they don't make anything clearer, and they don't even define what the individuals who make up the party believe.

Party labels are like big umbrellas with a name on top of it, i.e., Democratic Umbrella, Republican Umbrella, Libertarian Umbrella, etc. The part of the umbrella that you hold in your hand that extends all the way to the top of the umbrella represent the core ideas (so-called party platforms, etc) and the spokes that extend outward from that core that hold the canvas on the umbrella are like the upper ranking party officials or party apparatus that try to spread the core ideals, party propaganda, and are responsible for trying to get people to come out from the rain, the sun, or even enlightenment, and stand under their particular umbrella to associate yourselves with their core ideas. (I hope I'm painting a picture you can imagine here)

NONE. I repeat, NONE of the party apparatus or the people standing under the umbrella actually believe the same thing. They all see the core ideas differently (because they are fucking people); some only accept those ideas that agree with their personal beliefs; and others don't know what the fuck to believe, they just like the color of the damn umbrella and go along with what the others are saying because they couldn't think for themselves even if they wanted to. Hence, you have the right, left, center, moderate, and know-nothings wings of a party.

MY POINT: you must examine the individuals; the speakers; their motives; their reasoning, etc., to get a reasonable understanding of whats really going on. The umbrella doesn't speak or breathe; only the individuals under the umbrella and the spokes(men) that hold the canvass on the umbrella speak, breathe and think. Sometimes, when you can first understand whose speaking, why that person is speaking; what that person's personal baggage is -- then you might get a glimpse of what the REAL MESSAGE is.




Sir, I'm not the conspiracist. I don't believe that all white folk are out to get us. I don't believe that all members of the republican party are bad; I don't think that all members of the democratic party are bad; and I don't believe (at this point) that the Bush administration downed the towers or were complicit in the attacks of 9-11 or the failure of the levees in New Orleans. Perhaps, you should search all posts by QueEx and you will find that while you are painting me as a liberal; many others have painted me as a conservative. I laugh at both attempts! because like you, they have failed to analyze what I've said opting for what you THINK I've said or stand for. Actually, I've said some pretty republican sounding things and some things you might call straight from the left.



Simple. I have a brain. I don't need anyone to speak for me; I speak for myself - and quite well, I think. I analyze candidates not based on some damn party, but what they stand for. Not based on their party rhetoric; but based on what they've done in the past. Even for a candidate that doesn't have much of a political past, he/she still has baggage, if you know what I mean.



STOP! Please stop. You have to take the time to educate your mind. You have to learn to analyze when you read and listen; and apply some common sense. No one can put cynical thoughts in your mind unless, well, you're just gullible. Those are the kinds of people that find themselves all huddled-up under some Big Umbrella (political party) waiting on somebody to tell them what next to do, think or know.

You see Bro, thats why I am thrilled about the current debate in Congress over Iraq. GW, Congress and the rest are finally putting their thoughts on the table for all to see and for all to better understand the facts and whats at stake. You were moaniing the other day about Congress attacking Bush and why can'tthey just get along. Getting along without debate is exactly what got us to this precipice. When there is no debate, those at the center of the Umbrella have their way which doesn't necessarily mean its the right way. Debate is Big Boy Business.


Do you comment on every post on this or any other board? Not. The reason you were surprised I didn't respond is because you have preconceived notions in your mind about who I might be or what I may think. In other words, you're acting like you're under an Umbrella. You didn't think or analze first; you just used Umbrella logic.


Bro, please read the things I said at the start of this response. Obviously, you're just listening and not thinking, analyzing or even using common sense. It doesn't take much to hear the blatant racism on some of those conservative shows and even less to read between the veiled lines.

Here's a gimme: what about ole Rush's comments on the Black quarterback? Or, what do you think Rush is up to when he says, "the REVerrrrreennnd Jackson" and commences to denigrate whatever he says Jesse said without any real factual analysis of whatever Jesse said? (and before you even go there, fuck Jesse).

Hey Actinanass, lets Play Jeopardy in reverse: Who is Trent Lott or damn near most of the rest of the great Republican southern delegation ? Answer; some of the most racist people you'll find in the USA.

... lets play again. Who was Barry Goldwater?
What was the Goldwater revolution?

Umma leave you to ponder some answers



Many. Though thats not the point. The point is that you'd ask such a question so heavily laden with misconception, propaganda and food for the weak of mind.


You're not going to get me to sing the praises of either: liberal or conservative. I'm not so sure that the plight of our community is dependent on either. I think improvement in our community is largely on our backs and, perhaps, politicians that have a genuine interest in laying the foundation. I feel certain there may be politicians from either side of your liberal/conservative line that understand why its so important our community prospers just as their are many on the same side of our proverbial line that feel differently. But I can tell you one thing: you'll find neither relying on whose conservative or whose liberal or whose republican or whose democrat. I swear, the only people who need such party lables are people who need a damn cructch or someone who needs something to believe in because they can't believe, for themselves.



Main, youainknow um white? :lol:
See what your label-driven-analysis does. It fails you everytime. Gitchu some sense boy.



All I can say to that is this: If someone gives you everything you WANT and you still ended up in a rut, then obviously you either failed to ask for what you NEEDED or you didn't do shit with what you GOT. Which is it? Or, perhaps there is something wrong with what you said ?????


Well my <s>brother</s> ... ooopss ... forgot um white. Well boy, as great as you people music is, you just keep letting some fringe elements of it degrade your community; make you people think there is no hope; keep making your fine-assed women think they just ho's instead of praising their strenght; keep talking about how to shoot down the best of you .... and us white people will only have to stand by and watch a great people, perish. And, someday in the future, we'll come back to the areas where you once stood proud and view all the Great things about your people ... lying about like the ancient ruins of the Mayans; and we'll build museums on the sites - to commemorate what Great People You Were. And, we'll tell the visitors that this is what happens when a great culture turned on itself.

QueEx

ahhh I didn't say you were white.... Actually I don't know what race you really are, or care.

...are you on a BLACK PORN FORUM talking about praising black women strengths?

My personal beliefs about "degrading" anyone goes like this. I believe that no one can degrade you IF you believe that you are something great. People who allow themselves to be degraded, really do not think much of their self. It really comes down to teaching self pride, and love. Only religion, and good parenting can teach that.

All the other shit you said is really quite beneath me...
 
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