Rumsfeld Resigns

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<font size="5"><center>A Long Overdue Departure for Rumsfeld</font size>
<font size="4">Analysis: If Bush had acted sooner,
he might have helped the G.O.P. when
it mattered. More importantly, by starting
to change Iraq policy, he might have saved lives.</font size></center>

By JAMES CARNEY/WASHINGTON
Posted Wednesday, Nov. 08, 2006

Give President Bush credit for being honest about his dishonesty. Last week he told reporters for the top wire news services — the AP, Reuters, Bloomberg — that Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney were doing fabulous work and would remain in their jobs as Defense Secretary and Vice President right up to the end of Bush's second term. Today at his post-election press conference the President more or less admitted he was lying, at least about Rumsfeld.

It's not a surprise that Rumsfeld finally resigned — to be replaced by former CIA chief Robert Gates. What is surprising is how long it took. Well before the Army Times and Marine Times called for his resignation — even before John McCain declared he had lost confidence in Rumsfeld — the brash Secretary of Defense had lost almost all his allies inside the White House. Just the mention of his name would cause aides to the President to grind their teeth and roll their eyes. He had become a liability to the President, and his advisers knew it and resented it. If the choice had been theirs', Rummy would have been shown the door months, if not years, ago. And that was the White House. Rumsfeld never had allies in the State Department.

After Bush declared his unbending support for Rumsfeld last week, it was telling how few aides and advisers to the President were willing to reaffirm what the President had said. When asked about Bush's Rumsfeld comments, one official didn't try to hide the pain the question caused him. He wouldn't talk about it. He and others made it clear that the President said "what he had to say." In other words, Bush's support for Rumsfeld would last only until the last polling station closed on Tuesday night.

Since it came just minutes after Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi called for new civilian leadership at the Pentagon, the announcement of Rumsfeld's firing might be seen as an act of political expediency, a sacrificial offering to the newly powerful Democrats on Capitol Hill. And it was. But the truly expedient thing to do — the move that might actually have helped Bush and congressional Republicans when it mattered, before election day — would have been to fire Rumsfeld last week, last month or last year.

That Bush didn't act sooner was politically foolish. Far more seriously, by waiting so long he let his pride get in the way of a much-needed change in Iraq policy. That mistake didn't just cost the Republicans seats in the Congress. It may have cost lives.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1556714,00.html
 
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<font size="5"><center>The Man Who'll Replace Rummy</font size>
<font size="4">Bob Gates is a Bush family hand from way back.
But he'll need all his skills, and lucky stones too, as
he takes on the second-hardest job in Washington</font size></center>

TIME Magazine
By MICHAEL DUFFY/WASHINGTON
Posted Wednesday, Nov. 08, 2006

The last time presumptive Pentagon boss Robert M. Gates faced Senate confirmation — for CIA director in 1991— he put a small good luck charm in his pocket. It was a smooth, white, oblong stone he'd picked up while hiking in Washington state's Olympic range. Gates put it in his pocket to remind him during the tough confirmation hearings that there was life after Washington if his nomination went down to defeat.

Gates is likely to be confirmed as the next Secretary of Defense and he would bring to the job intimate knowledge of the White House, the Congress, the CIA and military intelligence. But he might want to dig the stone out of his belongings just in case.

Traditionally, the job of Defense Secretary goes to a person who sets a tone and policy atop the national defense structure while a deputy actually runs the building day to day. Rumsfeld tried to do both. Gates would fit the traditional pattern if he is confirmed.

The Kansas-born Gates is a Bush family hand from way back. He served Bush's father as deputy national security adviser and later as CIA director. He was a rare hardliner in the Bush 41 White House, famously suspicious of Mikhail Gorbachev and closer ideologically to then-Defense boss Dick Cheney than to Colin Powell and James Baker.

But Gates was chiefly a lifetime CIA officer, who rose quickly through the agency's Russia and Soviet ranks during the 1970s and 1980s. He was marked for higher office by Reagan CIA Director William Casey but was slowed in his rise by minor involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal in the late 1980s, when Gates was Casey's Deputy director at the agency. That misstep cost him the chance to replace Casey during the Reagan years; Bush's father named him CIA director a few years later after the Iran-contra smoke cleared.

During Gates' second CIA confirmation hearings he was charged with cooking intelligence by CIA insiders and making it more favorable to White House policy makers; Gates rebutted the charges sufficiently to get confirmed. Many Democrats voted against him nonetheless.

After leaving government, Gates wrote a book entitled From The Shadows and became president of Texas A & M University, the home of the George Herbert Walker Bush Presidential Library. Recently, he was named a member of the James Baker-Lee Hamilton commission on Iraq.

Gates is an affable, soft-spoken man who can tell a good story and has a generous sense of humor. He'll need all those skills and more to run a Pentagon amid a war that few believe the U.S. is winning.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1556651,00.html
 

Does anyone doubt that the results from the elections played
a part in Rumsfeld's resignation? Putting up the "New Guy" at
the same time as announcing the resignation tends to show
that the resignation was no surprise to the Administration.
Obviously, Bush has known for several days Rummy was stepping
down. Its awfully ironic that the deal comes down the day after
Republicans lost the house and possibly the senate.

The Point? <u>Votes Count</u>.


QueEx
 
QueEx said:

Does anyone doubt that the results from the elections played
a part in Rumsfeld's resignation? Putting up the "New Guy" at
the same time as announcing the resignation tends to show
that the resignation was no surprise to the Administration.
Obviously, Bush has known for several days Rummy was stepping
down. Its awfully ironic that the deal comes down the day after
Republicans lost the house and possibly the senate.

The Point? <u>Votes Count</u>.


QueEx

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Damn, Gin Rummy was my nigga

I wonder how this is gonna play out in the Boondocks
 
A Long Overdue Departure for Rumsfeld
Analysis: If Bush had acted sooner,
he might have helped the G.O.P. when
it mattered. More importantly, by starting
to change Iraq policy, he might have saved lives.

Rummy was an idiot. He can't see the writing on the wall when the people was tired of this no end in sight war. Wouldn't listen to anybody and was way the fuck over his head a long time ago. If bush had got rid of Rummy 2 years ago, it might have made a difference. Now all of bushes buddies are out of a job. Good fuckin' riddance. We need to quit electing confused sounding politicians who can't speak the language.

-VG
 
Rumsfeld got played by Neocons as did Bush and the rest of his Cabinet. The decision for war was made before Rumsfeld took office, he was ordered to win on a shoestring budget and he couldn't even tell the truth about what was going on because he probably didn't know himself. Like Powell, Rice and the Generals in the field Rummy did as he was told without any lip, Bush stood by him because he didn't want to seem like he was beaten and giving up but he had to know there was not enuff money or troops in Iraq to defeat the insurgents so Rummy is falling on the sword. The Rumsfeld resignation is distrubing because we are in a real war against enemies that want to destroy America and firing Rumsfeld has to seen as a victory for them.
 
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