Riley Talking About Shutting Down Wade

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South Florida Sun-Sentinel - 03/01 - 7:00 AM EST

Miami coach Pat Riley is talking about shutting down leading scorer Dwyane Wade for an extended period, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel is reporting.

Riley was responding to some critical comments made by tv commentators who were questioning Wade's position amongst the NBA elite. The Heat, led by Wade, were 10-45 heading into last night's game when Riley made his comments.

"He's going to toughen up. He's going to become who he was again, and I think it's unfair for him to be called out like that," Riley said.
 
South Florida Sun-Sentinel - 03/01 - 7:00 AM EST

Miami coach Pat Riley is talking about shutting down leading scorer Dwyane Wade for an extended period, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel is reporting.

Riley was responding to some critical comments made by tv commentators who were questioning Wade's position amongst the NBA elite. The Heat, led by Wade, were 10-45 heading into last night's game when Riley made his comments.

"He's going to toughen up. He's going to become who he was again, and I think it's unfair for him to be called out like that," Riley said.

If anyone needs to shut it down, it's Coach Riley.

He's the main reason the Heat are in shambles right now, from forcing Wade back too early last season to making dumb personnel decisions with his roster.
 
If anyone needs to shut it down, it's Coach Riley.


Thank you

It's apparent that no players take him seriously. He could have the dream team and still only finish .500


Let's not forget that he won the title with VAN GUNDY'S team. And that the Heat were awful before he stepped down
 
Players: Riley's tactics alienate

By CHRIS PERKINS

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Tuesday, March 04, 2008

MIAMI - Lamar Odom was neither shocked nor offended the first time the Heat medical staff gently pinched the flesh above his hipbone with a pair of calipers to measure his body fat.

"It was cool because I was in shape," said Odom, a Heat forward in 2003-04 who now plays for the Los Angeles Lakers.

It wasn't cool for Antoine Walker, who was suspended by coach Pat Riley last year for exceeding a team-mandated body-fat limit.

Walker, a forward who was traded in October to the Minnesota Timberwolves, said the Heat checked his body fat weekly.

"Every Monday," he said. "It gets nitpicky at times."

That kind of hard-nosed approach - which in the past also manifested itself in unusually exhausting practices - might be why NBA players questioned recently by Sports Illustrated said Riley was the coach for whom they would least like to play.

He was No. 1 in a runaway. Riley received 28 percent of the votes among 242 players interviewed. Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan, New York Knicks coach Isiah Thomas and former Chicago Bulls coach Scott Skiles were next at 12 percent each.

Riley, who has won five NBA titles as a head coach, said he isn't bothered by the unscientific poll.

"Two years ago I was the most favored guy to play for," he said, referring to the Heat's championship season of 2005-06.

His image could be a factor when he hunts for free agents this summer to help rebuild the Heat, which this season is the NBA's worst team at 11-46.

Again, Riley, who also is president of the team, said he isn't concerned.

"I'll find the guys who like me. Don't worry," he said.

Lakers coach Phil Jackson, who was fifth in the poll at 4 percent, said there's no doubt that Riley runs "a tight ship."

"He's going to make you work," Jackson said. "A lot of players I've coached, Lamar, for example, thought (Riley) dramatically improved their game."

But asked if he would have wanted to play for Riley, Jackson - a Knicks and Nets forward for 12 seasons - smiled and responded with an emphatic "no."

Walker likely would say the same thing given the chance to play again for Riley, 62.

"He's a great coach. Don't get me wrong," Walker said. "I think the league has kind of passed him by.

"You have to be able to relate with players, the modern-day players. Guys are younger. Guys make a lot of money now."

While the Heat still conducts regular body-fat checks, lengthy practices are a thing of the past. Riley concedes he has softened his approach since returning to the bench in December 2005 after a two-year hiatus. He has said his lack of toughness contributed to the team's first-round playoff exit last year and dismal performance this year.

Still, his reputation as a taskmaster survives. Players remember that the legend who built his reputation as coach of the Lakers and Knicks used to put trash cans on the practice court to accommodate players who had to vomit.

"You hear stories about guys throwing up in the summertime and those crazy workouts and that kind of scares a lot of guys," Odom said. "I was 24, 23 (years old) when I got there and that was exactly what I needed.

"Made me into a man quick."

Sacramento Kings forward Ron Artest, who can opt out of his contract and become a free agent at season's end, has heard the same stories. He said they don't scare him.

"He's got a couple of rings, so he did what he had to do," Artest said. "I'm not thinking about playing for him, but I wouldn't have a problem playing for a guy who pushes his players."

Former NBA coach Mike Fratello, now a TV analyst, said there is a breed that would relish playing for Riley.

"They're the Marines," Fratello said. "You can go to the Army, you can go to the Navy, you can go to the Air Force, or you can be a Marine. There's that group of players who want to be Marines."
 
Firstly, body fat composition tests are done by all teams in the NBA, and in most pro sporting leagues anyways. Some teams do it twice even three times in a given season for comparison reasons. That being said, Antoine Walker was and presently still is not in shape for todays game in the NBA. To me, not being in shape shows your desire for the game. F that!! Your an athlete gawd damnit this is what you do for a living!

I agree that Rily is losing a grips on his team currently but Antoine Walker brought this shit on to himself with his poor off season conditioning and wreckless attitude/approach to the game.
 
Walker likely would say the same thing given the chance to play again for Riley, 62.

"He's a great coach. Don't get me wrong," Walker said. "I think the league has kind of passed him by.

"You have to be able to relate with players, the modern-day players. Guys are younger. Guys make a lot of money now."

the problem is the same since the 1980's.

coach riley has ALWAYS faced the problem of "where do you go from here?". meaning, once you've won a championship, how do you motivate players to excel BEYOND that point? how do you extract an additional measure of greatness from players who have already managed to reach the pinnacle?

unfortunately, his ideas aren't always the wisest choice, given that the players aren't receptive to them. instead of a roster of players who will follow him into battle, he gets a roster of resentful players who wouldn't piss on him to put out a fire.

he had this problem with the most successful fakers squads of the 1980's too. but players were better, smarter, and more disciplined then.
 
Riley has a long track record. But all of his successes have only come while he had Magic Johnson at the point and Kareem in the paint. He's won a couple division titles with the Heat on his first go round, but that team never did reach it's potential despite having a plethora of talent each and every season

I do not count the title the Heat won, because that was not his team. It was Van Gundy's. It was Van Gundy who built the chemistry and the will to win on that team. The same way he is doing it with Orlando now

Put Van Gundy back on the Heat bench and put Riley on the Magic bench and you can probably reverse their records
 
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